Swiss Study: mRNA Alters DNA. And is Genotoxic.

[krichton]

Absolutely wrong. The hysteria is all on YOUR side. How many examples do you want from this board when the vaccines came out--are you kidding? Now millions upon millions of people have taken them, and these yokels don't even know if they cause cancer and autoimmune diseases.

Ain't that a kick in the head?

No sue, you are horribly mistaken and just projecting at this point. People deal with fear in different ways. There are those who use logic and reason to rationally deal with a problem. They mask up, they take vaccines, they social distance, they listen to actual scientists. Then there are those who will delve into the world of fantasy and make believe, because this is what allows them to deal with adversity. You are in this group. You've abandoned all reason and logic because your antivax propaganda is what makes you feel "safe." To you, vaccines are the boogieman from your childhood nightmares. The hysterical fear of them belongs to the ppl yelling about how they cause cancer and hiv, not the rational thinking people who knows they keep most ppl out of the hospital.

If by yokels you mean the top minds on the planet, i'll take their advice anything over a truck driver, fast food worker or media personality any day, when it comes to virology, vaccinology and immunization.

 

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This is terrible, if it holds beyond "test tubes" and in real human bodies.

From the study itself:

in this study, we aim to examine the effect of BNT162b2 on a human liver cell line in vitro and investigate if BNT162b2 can be reverse transcribed into DNA through endogenous mechanisms.

(BNT162b2 refers to the Pfizer mRNA shot)

Discussion:

In this study we present evidence that COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 is able to enter the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro......In the current study, we employed a human liver cell line for in vitro investigation. It is worth investigating if the liver cells also present the vaccine-derived SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which could potentially make the liver cells targets for previously primed spike protein reactive cytotoxic T cells. There has been case reports on individuals who developed autoimmune hepatitis [39] after BNT162b2 vaccination. To obtain better understanding of the potential effects of BNT162b2 on liver function, in vivo models are desired for future studies......Our study shows that BNT162b2 can be reverse transcribed to DNA in liver cell line Huh7, and this may give rise to the concern if BNT162b2-derived DNA may be integrated into the host genome and affect the integrity of genomic DNA, which may potentially mediate genotoxic side effects.

"Genotoxic" generally means cancer.

Right.

Study here:

Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human...

www.mdpi.com

Excellent information, funny you just posted this I saw this at exacty the same time LOL and almost posted it.

This attorney is amazing, he is extremely upset over the military and these jabs they are not vaccines they are DNA altering jabs.

There is a lot of information here.

Our Medical Freedom Fight – Renz Law

renz-law.com

Our Medical Freedom Fight – Renz Law

renz-law.com

What these jab lovers are not understanding, These are killing people they will keep taking the vaccines those boosters until it kills them. That is the goal the elderly no more retirement pay outs, no more life insurance etc.
life insurance is exploding and can’t keep up with all the deaths.

And you have these morons who want to hold their arms out begging for mOre. It’s causing cancer instantly in people many ppl.

 

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The Document that Shows the CDC & DHHS have Historically Used Fear To Sell Vaccines​

The Playbook of how the CDC and DHHS fosters fear to promote selling vaccines.

 

[SweetSue92]

Also, don't drink water. The risks clearly outweigh any potential benefits. You could accidently drink too much!

You accidentally hit on the key issue--the risks must outweigh the benefits. They have just discovered that the Pfizer vaccine was TWELVE % effective for children ages 5-11 for Omicron. I'm sure you're going to defend that nonsense but I have no idea why. There is no way--no way--any healthy child should have EVER been subject to those shots for a 12% efficacy rate. The risk FROM THE SHOTS is not worth it, and trust me, the risk from the shots is only now being uncovered.

Pfizer Covid vaccine was just 12% effective against omicron in kids 5 to 11, study finds

New York health officials found the effectiveness of Pfizer's vaccine versus Covid plummeted from 68% to 12% for children ages 5 to 11 during the omicron surge.

www.cnbc.com

 

[SweetSue92]

Excellent information, funny you just posted this I saw this at exacty the same time LOL and almost posted it.

This attorney is amazing, he is extremely upset over the military and these jabs they are not vaccines they are DNA altering jabs.

There is a lot of information here.

Our Medical Freedom Fight – Renz Law

renz-law.com

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Our Medical Freedom Fight – Renz Law

renz-law.com

What these jab lovers are not understanding, These are killing people they will keep taking the vaccines those boosters until it kills them. That is the goal the elderly no more retirement pay outs, no more life insurance etc.
life insurance is exploding and can’t keep up with all the deaths.

And you have these morons who want to hold their arms out begging for mOre. It’s causing cancer instantly in people many ppl.

I'm a big believer in Occam's Razor, despite how I'm viewed here. It is highly unlikely that multiple vaccine cos developed these vaccines on purpose to kill people. Possible, yes--tiny possibility. Likely, no. More likely is a rushed job that would never have been allowed in anything less that a Moral Panic, which happened beyond question. Now, we can't get the information out because people are bought into VACCINES (!!!) due to the remnants of that panic, fear, and frankly, religious belief of a sort.

 

[SweetSue92]

No sue, you are horribly mistaken and just projecting at this point. People deal with fear in different ways. There are those who use logic and reason to rationally deal with a problem. They mask up, they take vaccines, they social distance, they listen to actual scientists. Then there are those who will delve into the world of fantasy and make believe, because this is what allows them to deal with adversity. You are in this group. You've abandoned all reason and logic because your antivax propaganda is what makes you feel "safe." To you, vaccines are the boogieman from your childhood nightmares. The hysterical fear of them belongs to the ppl yelling about how they cause cancer and hiv, not the rational thinking people who knows they keep most ppl out of the hospital.

If by yokels you mean the top minds on the planet, i'll take their advice anything over a truck driver, fast food worker or media personality any day, when it comes to virology, vaccinology and immunization.

That's funny, since my kids had all their vaccines and so did I.

Hey, remember when you all thought lockdowns, school closures and cloth masks were great and saved lives?

Vaccines are next. Mark that.

 

[Grumblenuts]

You accidentally hit on the key issue--the risks must outweigh the benefits.

Millions of lives saved worldwide vs some kids apparently given too low a dosage to protect them against the latest variant. You're so right.

my kids had all their vaccines and so did I.

So do as you say not as you do. Personally, I've yet to bothered enough by the prospect of getting or spreading the omicron variant to bother getting the booster,.. but wow, you're.. somethin'!

Absolutely wrong. The hysteria is all on YOUR side.

 

[SweetSue92]

Millions of lives saved worldwide vs some kids apparently given too low a dosage to protect them against the latest variant. You're so right.

So do as you say not as you do. Personally, I've yet to bothered enough by the prospect of getting or spreading the omicron variant to bother getting the booster,.. but wow, you're.. somethin'!

It's not "some kids given too low a dosage to protect them"....it's them given a dose that did NOTHING EXCEPT expose them to the risk of myocarditis and we don't even know what else. THAT is always the risk of taking ineffective medication. It doesn't do what it advertises but it DOES expose you to unnecessary risks. Hello?

And by the way: when did we get to the point where we protect old people at risk of harming our CHILDREN? It is incomprehensible that we closed schools, masked children FOR TWO YEARS, and convinced parents to inject them with what looks like poison so 80 year olds with co-morbidities could have, what, another year?

Frankly, that 80 year olds did not stand up en masse against this is just more proof that we are a godless and selfish generation.

 

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Children DO NOT need vaccinated against the COLD virus. The vaccines —gene therapy is killing the children.

2000% Increase in Fetal Deaths Following COVID-19 Vaccines but CDC Still Recommends Them for Pregnant Women

It’s funny how many of you have forgotten about the NUREMBERG code, well this is going to be the same only it’s gonna be a 3.0

 

[Grumblenuts]

Frankly, that 80 year olds did not stand up en masse against this is just more proof that we are a godless and selfish generation.

LOL, I can just picture you waiting for the 80 year olds to stand up!

 

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LOL a little humor

 

[krichton]

It's not "some kids given too low a dosage to protect them"....it's them given a dose that did NOTHING EXCEPT expose them to the risk of myocarditis and we don't even know what else. THAT is always the risk of taking ineffective medication. It doesn't do what it advertises but it DOES expose you to unnecessary risks. Hello?

And by the way: when did we get to the point where we protect old people at risk of harming our CHILDREN? It is incomprehensible that we closed schools, masked children FOR TWO YEARS, and convinced parents to inject them with what looks like poison so 80 year olds with co-morbidities could have, what, another year?

Frankly, that 80 year olds did not stand up en masse against this is just more proof that we are a godless and selfish generation.

Here we go with myocarditis again. All of you ppl are hilarious. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that all this isn't driven entirely by politics? The risk of myocarditis is not a "thing." This is antivax fear porn and a scare tactic. It's like scaring people into not flying because of hijackings or complete engine failure, and lauding the "safety" of driving your own car, which statistically has a far and away a higher probability of injury from a car accident. The goal of all this is to get you scared, mission accomplished. You're frightened out of your mind. That's how they get you to believe all this stuff. I'd like to ask you a few questions no one has been able to answer. Why are you more concerned about the minuscule number of resolvable cases of myocarditis from vaccination over the higher rate of myocarditis from covid infection? Why are you not more concerned over the 100,000 child hospitalizations? Why are you not more concerned over possibly up to 2 million children having long haul covid symptoms? If this was really about children's health then all of these possible outcomes should concern you far and way more. It's not because that's not what the politics is telling you.

 

[SweetSue92]

Here we go with myocarditis again. All of you ppl are hilarious. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that all this isn't driven entirely by politics? The risk of myocarditis is not a "thing." This is antivax fear porn and a scare tactic. It's like scaring people into not flying because of hijackings or complete engine failure, and lauding the "safety" of driving your own car, which statistically has a far and away a higher probability of injury from a car accident. The goal of all this is to get you scared, mission accomplished. You're frightened out of your mind. That's how they get you to believe all this stuff. I'd like to ask you a few questions no one has been able to answer. Why are you more concerned about the minuscule number of resolvable cases of myocarditis from vaccination over the higher rate of myocarditis from covid infection? Why are you not more concerned over the 100,000 child hospitalizations? Why are you not more concerned over possibly up to 2 million children having long haul covid symptoms? If this was really about children's health then all of these possible outcomes should concern you far and way more. It's not because that's not what the politics is telling you.

Keep typing. I promise this will not turn out well for you. Just from what you typed--I am much more knowledgeable than you are about the vaccines and side effects.

 

[candycorn]

Here we go with myocarditis again. All of you ppl are hilarious. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that all this isn't driven entirely by politics? The risk of myocarditis is not a "thing." This is antivax fear porn and a scare tactic. It's like scaring people into not flying because of hijackings or complete engine failure, and lauding the "safety" of driving your own car, which statistically has a far and away a higher probability of injury from a car accident. The goal of all this is to get you scared, mission accomplished. You're frightened out of your mind. That's how they get you to believe all this stuff. I'd like to ask you a few questions no one has been able to answer. Why are you more concerned about the minuscule number of resolvable cases of myocarditis from vaccination over the higher rate of myocarditis from covid infection? Why are you not more concerned over the 100,000 child hospitalizations? Why are you not more concerned over possibly up to 2 million children having long haul covid symptoms? If this was really about children's health then all of these possible outcomes should concern you far and way more. It's not because that's not what the politics is telling you.

True.

 

[SweetSue92]

True.

Here's a little canary in a coal mine: "quietly" recommending a longer interval to cut down on "rare" side effects.

Sure.

CDC Advising Some To Wait 8 Weeks Between Doses Of MRNA Vaccines - KFF Health News

In an update to its guidance, the CDC now recommends that some space out their initial two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer covid shots. The latest research shows that the longer interval can boost protection levels and lower the risk of rare side effects. People with weakened immune systems and...

khn.org

 

[Grumblenuts]

Does no one care about the fetuses? Shouldn't they be first in line to be vaxxed?

 

[SweetSue92]

Does no one care about the fetuses? Shouldn't they be first in line to be vaxxed?

Their mothers were. Since the powers that be now acknowledge that the shots cause menstrual problems, it's going to be fascinating to find out what happened to miscarriages after shots. Well, fascinating and tragic.

BTW:

How does a VACCINE cause MENSTRUAL PROBLEMS????

Here, a liberal article for you, from Vox. Blah blah, still safe and effective. But the question remains: HOW are these shots causing menstrual problems?

Why were scientists so slow to study Covid-19 vaccines and menstruation?

How ignoring a key side effect of Covid-19 vaccines led to one of the most pervasive vaccination myths about fertility.

www.vox.com

 

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[krichton]

Keep typing. I promise this will not turn out well for you. Just from what you typed--I am much more knowledgeable than you are about the vaccines and side effects.

I wonder how many antivaxxers had said those exact same words to someone who was vaccinated and is 6 feet under right now, or at home having trouble breathing from their stint on a ventilator. I would say, it's a lot. Can the exact opposite be said? Hmmm.

What you are knowledgeable in is being a mouthpiece for antivax propaganda. Pretty much all of you are. That's why neither you nor anyone else can answer those last few questions I always pose to you ppl because a rational person who isn't frightened out of their mind from antivax nuttery would have been able to reason that one out for themselves long ago.

 

[SweetSue92]

I wonder how many antivaxxers had said those exact same words to someone who was vaccinated and is 6 feet under right now, or at home having trouble breathing from their stint on a ventilator. I would say, it's a lot. Can the exact opposite be said? Hmmm.

What you are knowledgeable in is being a mouthpiece for antivax propaganda. Pretty much all of you are. That's why neither you nor anyone else can answer those last few questions I always pose to you ppl because a rational person who isn't frightened out of their mind from antivax nuttery would have been able to reason that one out for themselves long ago.

You are typing like it's still March of 2021, like the vaccines are just out and everyone still "believes" in them.

Before I go on and waste my time: are you mentally dull or just a True Believer?