"Tallying Trump's tab": The liberals suddenly care about excessive spending

[Toddsterpatriot]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

And today it's $18.1 trillion. If Bush spent way too much, how do you describe Obama's performance?

 

[nuhuh]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

And today it's $18.1 trillion. If Bush spent way too much, how do you describe Obama's performance?

Obama is at #18 in the all time presidential rankings and will go much higher with his recent moves to improve relations with Cuba and his part in the Iran nuclear agreement. That speaks for itself, we all know the debt is rising because of interest, hopefully a well running economy will reduce it as it has in California.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

And today it's $18.1 trillion. If Bush spent way too much, how do you describe Obama's performance?

Obama is at #18 in the all time presidential rankings and will go much higher with his recent moves to improve relations with Cuba and his part in the Iran nuclear agreement. That speaks for itself, we all know the debt is rising because of interest, hopefully a well running economy will reduce it as it has in California.

Obama is at #18

Yeah, liberal rankings are awesome.
He's #1 for deficit spending.
When Iran gets a nuke, will his ranking drop into the low 40s?

we all know the debt is rising because of interest,

Rates are much lower than when he came into office. Durr.

 

[edthecynic]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

 

[Stephanie]

Keep Ignoring the anger of the American citizens

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The Black Female Trump Supporter Who Goes Off On The Illegal Alien-Hiring City Council

19Aug, 2015by Scott McKay


You’ll find this worth watching, without question. It’s a response to the controversial actions of the city council in Huntington Park, California, which appointed a pair of acknowledged illegal aliens to city jobs, and one former resident was incensed…



Here’s a transcript, via Breitbart…

…undocumented illegal immigrants who have been assigned to the position of commissioner.

The Huntington Park City Council is being paid with taxpayers’ money to do a job within rules and regulations. According to your board behind you, it says, “Where there is no vision, the people perish.” I want to paraphrase that and say: Where there is no law, the people perish.

In the U.S. we have one rule of law. I also want to talk about the Fourteenth Amendment, which was added to the Constitution in regards to blacks being given birthright citizenship because blacks helped build this country, including the White House—twice.

(Interjection: Right on!)

Please do not tarnish the name of black slaves by comparing them to your plight. There’s no comparison. None.

ALL of it here:
The Black Female Trump Supporter Who Goes Off On The Illegal Alien-Hiring City Council | John Hawkins' Right Wing News

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

FactCheck disagrees with you:

"The figures in that graphic are pure fabrications, as anyone can easily confirm by plugging Obama’s inauguration date — Jan. 20, 2009 — in the Treasury Department’s handy “debt to the penny” website. That shows the nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office (not $6.3 trillion), and it had increased to nearly $15.4 trillion by the end of January 2012 — a rise of more than $4.7 trillion in just over three years (not $6.5 trillion)."

Dueling Debt Deceptions

 

[edthecynic]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

FactCheck disagrees with you:

"The figures in that graphic are pure fabrications, as anyone can easily confirm by plugging Obama’s inauguration date — Jan. 20, 2009 — in the Treasury Department’s handy “debt to the penny” website. That shows the nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office (not $6.3 trillion), and it had increased to nearly $15.4 trillion by the end of January 2012 — a rise of more than $4.7 trillion in just over three years (not $6.5 trillion)."

Dueling Debt Deceptions

The FISCAL year does not begin the day a president takes office!
From your own source by fiscal year:

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2014

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The two failed, illegal wars alone wasted billions of tax dollars.

 

[CowboyTed]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

 

[B. Kidd]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

Deficit is what Obie and Obie-bots lie about..........and debt is what his lack of experience has cost us. Many of us really know the true difference 'all hat an' no cattle'!

 

[bripat9643]

And assuming Drumpf Truck is elected, the Right suddenly doesn't care again about deficits mattering when a Republican is president.

"Reagan proved deficits don't matter."
- Dick Cheney

"I am a deficit hawk."
- Dick Cheney

Dick Cheney is running for President?

Idiot, deflection.
Dickless is typical of the Right, deficits only matter when a Democrat is president, as if you didn't know. When Carter was president Reagan ran against deficits. Reagan elected and deficits don't matter. Clinton elected and deficits are the end of the Earth, Bush II elected and debt is OK if it is the results of tax cuts paying for themselves. Obama elected and deficits are generational theft and if Trump is elected no deficit is too large for war and deportation.

You mean controlling spending only matters when we're talking about a program the Dims don't like.
OF course, your temper tantrum is based on the theory that illegals don't cost the taxpayers anything.

 

[bripat9643]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

Suggest you learn the difference between Deficit and Debt

How would that make a difference?

 

[francoHFW]

After years (decades?) of pushing huge spending increases and "Do it for the children" rhetoric designed to get people to ignore that they are plunging the country into bottomless debt, suddenly the liberals have decided that a spending proposal is too expensive.

That spending proposal is, of course, Donald Trump saying he will make the government obey our immigrations laws. We can't have that!

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Tallying Trump s Tab NBC Suddenly Cares About Excessive Spending

'Tallying Trump's Tab': NBC Suddenly Cares About Excessive Spending

By Scott Whitlock
August 18, 2015
11:31 AM EDT

NBC finally cares about government spending. The network that has been very friendly to Barack Obama (under whom the national debt will reach $19 trillion) worried that Donald Trump's policy goals may cost too much. Today reporter Hallie Jackson on Tuesday fretted, "The candidate known for his big money... turns out to be a big spender when it comes to his presidential proposals."

Jackson lamented Trump's plans as wasteful: "Deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants estimated to cost about $138 billion. Taking back Iraqi oil fields, which would mean U.S. boots on the ground, $13 billion to $22 billion and repealing the Affordable Care Act may cost the government $137 billion in the next decade."

Showcasing NBC's new-found interesting in fiscal austerity, Jackson complained of Trump: "He dodged NBC's Katy Tur's question about where that money to deport undocumented immigrants would come from."

Over ABC's Good Morning America, Tom Llamas did not focus on the cost of the immigration policies. Instead, he yelled questions at Trump (who was in New York City for jury duty) on enforcement: "How would you do it?... What would you tell a child of an undocumented immigrant? What would you tell that child born in the U.S.?"

 

[bripat9643]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

 

[francoHFW]

OP- Thanks for the usual BS about big spending Dems- ACTUALLY, the debt goes up under Pubs, except when Dems have to blow 5-6 trillion bailing out a Pub world depression and its victims. STILL 4-500billion /year in UE, Welfare etc...Reagan tripled the debt, W doubled it in supposedly good times- actually corrupt bubbles- Great job, shytteheads.

 

[bripat9643]

OP- Thanks for the usual BS about big spending Dems- ACTUALLY, the debt goes up under Pubs, except when Dems have to blow 5-6 trillion bailing out a Pub world depression and its victims. STILL 4-500billion /year in UE, Welfare etc...Reagan tripled the debt, W doubled it in supposedly good times- actually corrupt bubbles- Great job, shytteheads.

So the debt didn't go up under El Obamalini?

 

[francoHFW]

OP- Thanks for the usual BS about big spending Dems- ACTUALLY, the debt goes up under Pubs, except when Dems have to blow 5-6 trillion bailing out a Pub world depression and its victims. STILL 4-500billion /year in UE, Welfare etc...Reagan tripled the debt, W doubled it in supposedly good times- actually corrupt bubbles- Great job, shytteheads.

So the debt didn't go up under El Obamalini?

Can you read? lol

 

[francoHFW]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

No rule or fact is safe in Pub dupe world....

 

[Clementine]

After years (decades?) of pushing huge spending increases and "Do it for the children" rhetoric designed to get people to ignore that they are plunging the country into bottomless debt, suddenly the liberals have decided that a spending proposal is too expensive.

That spending proposal is, of course, Donald Trump saying he will make the government obey our immigrations laws. We can't have that!

-----------------------------------------------------

Tallying Trump s Tab NBC Suddenly Cares About Excessive Spending

'Tallying Trump's Tab': NBC Suddenly Cares About Excessive Spending

By Scott Whitlock
August 18, 2015
11:31 AM EDT

NBC finally cares about government spending. The network that has been very friendly to Barack Obama (under whom the national debt will reach $19 trillion) worried that Donald Trump's policy goals may cost too much. Today reporter Hallie Jackson on Tuesday fretted, "The candidate known for his big money... turns out to be a big spender when it comes to his presidential proposals."

Jackson lamented Trump's plans as wasteful: "Deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants estimated to cost about $138 billion. Taking back Iraqi oil fields, which would mean U.S. boots on the ground, $13 billion to $22 billion and repealing the Affordable Care Act may cost the government $137 billion in the next decade."

Showcasing NBC's new-found interesting in fiscal austerity, Jackson complained of Trump: "He dodged NBC's Katy Tur's question about where that money to deport undocumented immigrants would come from."

Over ABC's Good Morning America, Tom Llamas did not focus on the cost of the immigration policies. Instead, he yelled questions at Trump (who was in New York City for jury duty) on enforcement: "How would you do it?... What would you tell a child of an undocumented immigrant? What would you tell that child born in the U.S.?"

How in the hell do they come up with these figures? It does not cost that much per alien to send them back. They will leave on their own if the benefits are cut off.

How much does it cost tax payers each year to house, clothe, feed, provide healthcare for and educate illegal aliens?

 

[nuhuh]

The thread premise is nonsense.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending on two failed, illegal wars, an unwarranted increase in the size of government, and reckless, irresponsible tax cuts.

Just look at the GWB years: A massive deficit created with wasteful spending

Yes, $5 trillion in deficit spending was awful.

Compared to Obama's $7.5 trillion, so far..........

The debt was 10.6 Trillion when Obama took office. It didn't get there without Republican help.

Actually the GOP National Debt was $11.9 trillion at the end of Bush's last fiscal year. That $11.9 trillion has cost us over $2 trillion in interest since then so therefore the total GOP National Debt is $14+ trillion.

Obama wrote the budget for what you're calling "Bush's last fiscal year." So he owns it.

No banana, charlie.

No rule or fact is safe in Pub dupe world....

Truth