Tar Sand Oil Pipeline Ruptures in Arkansas.

THIS is one of the main reasons the tarsands pipeline was opposed and now the Righties are saying "don't you feel empathy for what happened to those poor souls who live by the leak/contaminated area?" :rolleyes:
 

So suffering and misery of your fellows Americans is something you love.

Is the nature being killed off just another plus, or is the human suffering enough for you?

It's not about me..lackey boy.

You said, "Gotta love it"

That's not vague, not in the slightest, your fellow lwers knew what you meant and have backed you up on it.

You're happy people are suffering, and your fellow libs support you.
 
The number of rail oil tanker spills is on the rise. 112 in two years. Latest one was in Minnesota last week. Accidents happen. I don't know what solutions are out there. Tougher financial penalties?

On Wednesday, a train carrying Canadian crude derailed in Minnesota, spilling 15,000 gallons of oil.

Exxon pipeline leaks thousands of barrels of Canadian oil in Arkansas | World | News | Toronto Sun

15000 gallons of oil huh?

What % of the total amount of oil transported does that amout to?

Probably something in the hundredths of thousandths of a pct. Not the point, however. The point is o% is attainable from "internal" quality issues.

The reason there are any spills from cut-price construction and maintenance is repairs are cheaper than penalties. Inspectors mitigate damage and so double or triple costs of small spills to taxpayers.

The obvious solution is severe penalties for leaks above some reasonable minimum. Once the costs of spills from internal quality fails are unsupportable, spills of that nature of any size will stop.

Stiff penalties and I mean really stiff penalties have proven time and time again to be the most effective way of beating back the bean counters who cheap out on construction and/ or maintenance leading to a failure in any business not just the oil industry.

Of course "act of God" accidents that cause a leak or a spill wouldn't fall under a penalty clause (minor earthquake, tornado damage etc), but if it can be proven that negligence occurred causing a leak or spill then the fine should be mega hefty.
 
THIS is one of the main reasons the tarsands pipeline was opposed and now the Righties are saying "don't you feel empathy for what happened to those poor souls who live by the leak/contaminated area?" :rolleyes:

Oppose the pipeline and transport more by rail? Gee that's really not working out. Look at the biggie last week in Minnesota.

Rail spills up by 102 should give every one cause for concern.


The spill is one of the biggest in a rising number related to railroads, as energy companies use trains to move crude oil from booming North American fields not adequately served by pipelines.

The number of incidents has risen sharply in the past few years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of federal data.

Some 112 oil spills were reported from U.S. rail tanker cars from 2010 to 2012, up from just 10 in the previous three years, according to the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, a part of the Department of Transportation that tracks most releases of hazardous materials.

But the amount of crude leaked in spills has declined since 2008, when a big accident in Oklahoma released more than 1,900 barrels.


Rail Line Reopens After Minnesota Oil Spill - WSJ.com
 
Gotta love it.

Arkansas residents evacuate as Exxon-Mobil tar sands pipeline ruptures | The Raw Story

An Exxon-Mobil oil pipeline ruptured Friday afternoon in the town of Mayflower, Arkansas, forcing the evacuation of 20 homes and shutting down sections of interstate highway. According to Little Rock’s KATV, a hazardous materials team from the Office of Emergency Management has contained the spill and is currently attempting a cleanup.

The burst pipe is part of the Pegasus pipeline network, which connects tar sands along the Gulf coast to refineries in Houston. Thousands of gallons of crude oil erupted from the breach around 3:00 p.m. on Friday, spilling through a housing subdivision and into the town’s storm drainage system, fouling drainage ditches and shutting down Highway 365 and Interstate 40.

Residents were evacuated to avoid health hazards from crude oil fumes and to keep stray sparks from igniting the standing oil. Emergency workers contained the spill by hastily constructing earthen dams.

Gotta love it???? :confused: Liberals truly are a sick bunch.
 

So?

Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

It's a minor thing and quite rare actually.

Yeah..rare and minor..


This week marks the two-year anniversary of the massive Kalamazoo River pipeline spill. The event looks very different now than it did in 2010, when authorities openly worried that the Michigan mess would ooze tar sands oil into the Great Lakes. While there is still work underway to sop up the spill, it already stands as the longest and costliest pipeline cleanup in American history. And the ongoing investigations have given us a clearer and more frustrating view of the disaster, making it clear to anyone looking that our growing affinity for Canada’s bottom-of-the-barrel unconventional tar sands oil is unsafe on a variety of levels.

In Michigan, the EPA has spent the last two years “writing the book” on what a tar sands cleanup looks like in an American river. While the disaster was unfolding, the CEO of Enbridge was on-hand, but did not bother to tell authorities that they should consider some alternative cleanup techniques to deal with the heavier-than-water bitumen slurping out of his busted pipe. As a result, the cleanup was largely focused on skimming oil off the surface initially. Later, officials realized that a wide swath of the river bottom was mucked with tar sands oil globules, as were sensitive wetlands along the waterway. The cleanup has focused on those areas since and recent press reports imply that even though most of the oil is gone, some of those submerged globules are continuing to spread.
Henry Henderson: Kalamazoo River Spill: Two Years Later and the Tar Sands Mess in Michigan Still Looks Ugly

:eusa_whistle:

damn it, no more tankers!!!:evil:

Exxon Valdez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

damn it, no more off shore drilling!!:evil:

Deepwater Horizon oil spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

damn it, no more tanker trucks!!!:evil:

Tanker Truck Crash Creates Big Fuel Spill On I-880 In Oakland « CBS San Francisco

damn it, no more on shore drilling!!:evil:

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damn it, no more Wire Hangers!!!:evil:


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THIS is one of the main reasons the tarsands pipeline was opposed and now the Righties are saying "don't you feel empathy for what happened to those poor souls who live by the leak/contaminated area?" :rolleyes:

hey boob, theres over 20,000, thats thousand miles of pipelines carrying petroleum product criss crossing the Ogallala aquifer, right now, hello....:rolleyes:
 
The day every one protesting the Keystone turns off their computers, turn off their heat source, cook on a Coleman camp stove in their apartment, and light candles I might take their bitching seriously.

This is all such bullshit.
 
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The number of rail oil tanker spills is on the rise. 112 in two years. Latest one was in Minnesota last week. Accidents happen. I don't know what solutions are out there. Tougher financial penalties?

On Wednesday, a train carrying Canadian crude derailed in Minnesota, spilling 15,000 gallons of oil.

Exxon pipeline leaks thousands of barrels of Canadian oil in Arkansas | World | News | Toronto Sun

15000 gallons of oil huh?

What % of the total amount of oil transported does that amout to?

If your sewerline backed up and shit from your neighborhood filled your bathtub and kitchen sink would you care what percentage of shit in all the toilets in your town ended up in your house?
Would you call for a ban on sewerlines?
Maybe shut down all sewer systems?
 
anyone seen the pics of that stream of oil flowing through that effected neighborhood? doesn't look good

http://media.treehugger.com/assets/...113_1514556596_n.jpg.492x0_q85_crop-smart.jpg
video: http://bcove.me/p755rs74
According to the Arkansas Times the spill could have been much worse:

the break was in the same Exxon Mobil 20-inch pipeline that carries Canadian crude to Texas refineries across 13 miles of the Lake Mamelle watershed and crosses the Maumelle River at three places.
Had the spill occurred on either Lake Maumelle or the Maumelle River, this would have been a huge disaster for Arkansas.
 
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remember the Repub chant from 2012? "keystone xl, keystone xl, keystone xl!!!"

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15000 gallons of oil huh?

What % of the total amount of oil transported does that amout to?

Probably something in the hundredths of thousandths of a pct. Not the point, however. The point is o% is attainable from "internal" quality issues.
The reason there are any spills from cut-price construction and maintenance is repairs are cheaper than penalties. Inspectors mitigate damage and so double or triple costs of small spills to taxpayers.

The obvious solution is severe penalties for leaks above some reasonable minimum. Once the costs of spills from internal quality fails are unsupportable, spills of that nature of any size will stop.

Stiff penalties and I mean really stiff penalties have proven time and time again to be the most effective way of beating back the bean counters who cheap out on construction and/ or maintenance leading to a failure in any business not just the oil industry.

Of course "act of God" accidents that cause a leak or a spill wouldn't fall under a penalty clause (minor earthquake, tornado damage etc), but if it can be proven that negligence occurred causing a leak or spill then the fine should be mega hefty.

0% is attainable?

Aren't you the optimist.

Yes, I suppose we could begin lining every pipeline with gold to prevent corrosion.

Perhaps Santa Clause will bring it to us for Christmas!


Some of you people are so ridiculously stupid I wouldn't be surprised if you thought that was a realistic possibility.


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Go ahead and raise expenses, and raise them again, and again: The pipline companies will charge more, and then more, and then even more to transport fuel to cover the costs, fuel costs will rise, and so will the cost to transport EVERYTHING.

Especially throughout the Northeast...and West Coast..."Blue States"
 

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