Taxing the wealthy more will have little to no impact on your life or anyone around you

[Brain357]

You still haven't said what new taxes Obama has hit you with.

Clearly the bush tax cuts didn't do much for the economy so you must have been the only one.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bush-tax-cuts.bmp

Compare that to growth under Clinton.

Clinton? You mean Bill Clinton? The same Clinton that presided with a newly elected Republican Congress?

Yes. Are you suggesting our current congress could be doing something? Cause they seem to do nothing.

What would you like them to do that the Democrats won't stop and Obama would go along with?

If they would put together a good argument for it that the people get behind the dems couldn't stop it. But they don't do that which makes me think they are not serious.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How about our government stop allowing illegals and immigrants in?
That alone would increase the hourly wage.

I've already said I'm not pro illegal immigration. But the illegals are fighting for the lowest paying jobs. It does drag down wages, but it is just a small part of the problem. Like I said before it's more sending jobs to other countries and bringing in foreigners for better paying jobs that is doing most of the real damage. What do you not like about what I would do? Do you like big government? My plan would shrink government by having companies take care of employees, that's the only way government will ever shrink.

Aaaaahhh fuck!!!!!!
I'll post it again for the millionth time.
I started working in machine shops over twenty five years ago.
The average hispanic ratio was around 4% when I retired five years ago it was above 80%.
These were jobs you could make a living on. Wages went stagnant in the early 90's because of it and friends I have still in the industry have told me it's gotten nothing but worse.
So when do you start supporting an anti immigrant stance and those who will do something about it?

I've already said I would throw the illegals out. But who should I support in that? Repubs have majority in congress and aren't doing anything. I really think it is like the debt for them, just something they talk about.

They're not doing anything? Who was strongly against and fought DumBama on his illegal amnesty program? The main concern of the Republican front runner is the border and illegal problem. It's Republicans that created Kate's law that Democrats promised to make sure never happens. Democrats love Sanctuary Cities and they love illegal felons here killing Americans.

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It will only enable the government to spend more money on stupid ass senseless projects like shrimp on treadmills.
You stupid liberals will vote for it and see NONE OF IT. It will be blown on wasteful spending just like the vast majority of your taxes

The Bush tax cut for the wealthiest was allowed to expire at the end of 2012, thus raising the tax rate for the wealthy back to pre-Bush tax cut levels.

In 2013 the deficit fell 400 billion. In 2014 the deficit fell another 200 billion. You were, and are, wrong.

 

[Brain357]

I've already said I'm not pro illegal immigration. But the illegals are fighting for the lowest paying jobs. It does drag down wages, but it is just a small part of the problem. Like I said before it's more sending jobs to other countries and bringing in foreigners for better paying jobs that is doing most of the real damage. What do you not like about what I would do? Do you like big government? My plan would shrink government by having companies take care of employees, that's the only way government will ever shrink.

Aaaaahhh fuck!!!!!!
I'll post it again for the millionth time.
I started working in machine shops over twenty five years ago.
The average hispanic ratio was around 4% when I retired five years ago it was above 80%.
These were jobs you could make a living on. Wages went stagnant in the early 90's because of it and friends I have still in the industry have told me it's gotten nothing but worse.
So when do you start supporting an anti immigrant stance and those who will do something about it?

I've already said I would throw the illegals out. But who should I support in that? Repubs have majority in congress and aren't doing anything. I really think it is like the debt for them, just something they talk about.

They're not doing anything? Who was strongly against and fought DumBama on his illegal amnesty program? The main concern of the Republican front runner is the border and illegal problem. It's Republicans that created Kate's law that Democrats promised to make sure never happens. Democrats love Sanctuary Cities and they love illegal felons here killing Americans.

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

You can't be serious. They come across the party of do nothing for a reason.

 

[Brain357]

I've already said I'm not pro illegal immigration. But the illegals are fighting for the lowest paying jobs. It does drag down wages, but it is just a small part of the problem. Like I said before it's more sending jobs to other countries and bringing in foreigners for better paying jobs that is doing most of the real damage. What do you not like about what I would do? Do you like big government? My plan would shrink government by having companies take care of employees, that's the only way government will ever shrink.

Aaaaahhh fuck!!!!!!
I'll post it again for the millionth time.
I started working in machine shops over twenty five years ago.
The average hispanic ratio was around 4% when I retired five years ago it was above 80%.
These were jobs you could make a living on. Wages went stagnant in the early 90's because of it and friends I have still in the industry have told me it's gotten nothing but worse.
So when do you start supporting an anti immigrant stance and those who will do something about it?

I've already said I would throw the illegals out. But who should I support in that? Repubs have majority in congress and aren't doing anything. I really think it is like the debt for them, just something they talk about.

They're not doing anything? Who was strongly against and fought DumBama on his illegal amnesty program? The main concern of the Republican front runner is the border and illegal problem. It's Republicans that created Kate's law that Democrats promised to make sure never happens. Democrats love Sanctuary Cities and they love illegal felons here killing Americans.

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

It is a debate they could easily win if they wanted. I don't think they do however. Ultimately the rich who fund their campaigns want the cheap labor. The repubs talk like they want to do something, but really they don't.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Aaaaahhh fuck!!!!!!
I'll post it again for the millionth time.
I started working in machine shops over twenty five years ago.
The average hispanic ratio was around 4% when I retired five years ago it was above 80%.
These were jobs you could make a living on. Wages went stagnant in the early 90's because of it and friends I have still in the industry have told me it's gotten nothing but worse.
So when do you start supporting an anti immigrant stance and those who will do something about it?

I've already said I would throw the illegals out. But who should I support in that? Repubs have majority in congress and aren't doing anything. I really think it is like the debt for them, just something they talk about.

They're not doing anything? Who was strongly against and fought DumBama on his illegal amnesty program? The main concern of the Republican front runner is the border and illegal problem. It's Republicans that created Kate's law that Democrats promised to make sure never happens. Democrats love Sanctuary Cities and they love illegal felons here killing Americans.

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

It is a debate they could easily win if they wanted. I don't think they do however. Ultimately the rich who fund their campaigns want the cheap labor. The repubs talk like they want to do something, but really they don't.

You have a bad habit of turning things off you don't like to hear or read.

I just listed three things that are relevant to Republicans and their stance on foreigners coming to this country, and you act like I never responded at all.

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'
By SUSAN FERRECHIO (@SUSANFERRECHIO) • 10/17/15 12:01 AM

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'

 

[Mr Natural]

We're at war. Derp.......

Did Obama bring home the troops from Afghanistan as promised? Oops...

WWII was a war.

What we're in now is yet another meaningless and extremely expensive military escapade.

 

[Wildman]

Did Obama bring home the troops from Afghanistan as promised?

and now the muslime mulatto wants to leave over 5,000 troops there to be target practice for his ISIS muslime brothers.

 

[Wildman]

If you want a taste of what hard life is, feel free to move to some third world shit hole.

not one of these whiny liberscum complainers will do that, they are too fucking cowardly, all they know how and what to do is whine, cry and hide under that military provided safety blanket they sleep under.


good post my friend!!

 

[kaz]

At least the libs waste money on helping Americans . Neocons waste money on building walls and more military bases around the world .

Shit, the GOP debates they all complained that we DONT spend enough on military . It's like 1/2 our budget !

We do spend too much on "defense," but actually it's about 20% of spending, LOL. It always amazes me how liberals don't Google made up claims before making them so they don't look stupid, but I guess it doesn't bother you.

We should spend half on defense though. Let's cut defense in half, then cut the rest to match that

 

[Brain357]

I've already said I would throw the illegals out. But who should I support in that? Repubs have majority in congress and aren't doing anything. I really think it is like the debt for them, just something they talk about.

They're not doing anything? Who was strongly against and fought DumBama on his illegal amnesty program? The main concern of the Republican front runner is the border and illegal problem. It's Republicans that created Kate's law that Democrats promised to make sure never happens. Democrats love Sanctuary Cities and they love illegal felons here killing Americans.

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

It is a debate they could easily win if they wanted. I don't think they do however. Ultimately the rich who fund their campaigns want the cheap labor. The repubs talk like they want to do something, but really they don't.

You have a bad habit of turning things off you don't like to hear or read.

I just listed three things that are relevant to Republicans and their stance on foreigners coming to this country, and you act like I never responded at all.

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'
By SUSAN FERRECHIO (@SUSANFERRECHIO) • 10/17/15 12:01 AM

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'

Will they get it passed? Are they getting the public behind them?

 

[rightwinger]

It will only enable the government to spend more money on stupid ass senseless projects like shrimp on treadmills.
You stupid liberals will vote for it and see NONE OF IT. It will be blown on wasteful spending just like the vast majority of your taxes

The shrimp on a treadmill was a valid scientific experiment

Only republicans are incapable of understanding how science works





.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They're not doing anything? Who was strongly against and fought DumBama on his illegal amnesty program? The main concern of the Republican front runner is the border and illegal problem. It's Republicans that created Kate's law that Democrats promised to make sure never happens. Democrats love Sanctuary Cities and they love illegal felons here killing Americans.

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

It is a debate they could easily win if they wanted. I don't think they do however. Ultimately the rich who fund their campaigns want the cheap labor. The repubs talk like they want to do something, but really they don't.

You have a bad habit of turning things off you don't like to hear or read.

I just listed three things that are relevant to Republicans and their stance on foreigners coming to this country, and you act like I never responded at all.

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'
By SUSAN FERRECHIO (@SUSANFERRECHIO) • 10/17/15 12:01 AM

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'

Will they get it passed? Are they getting the public behind them?

The only public behind them are those that are in tune with conservative broadcasts like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The MSM doesn't spend much time reporting on things like this so how would they get the word out?

They're doing everything they can, but our government (by design) was created so that no one power controls all. All they can do is take action and hope the public is paying attention.

 

[Brain357]

I don't see them trying to pass anything. They also frankly aren't winning the debate on illegals. They should be calling out the dems on this being one reason wages are stagnant and inequality is growing. They should get unions on their side to pressure dems to go along.

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

It is a debate they could easily win if they wanted. I don't think they do however. Ultimately the rich who fund their campaigns want the cheap labor. The repubs talk like they want to do something, but really they don't.

You have a bad habit of turning things off you don't like to hear or read.

I just listed three things that are relevant to Republicans and their stance on foreigners coming to this country, and you act like I never responded at all.

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'
By SUSAN FERRECHIO (@SUSANFERRECHIO) • 10/17/15 12:01 AM

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'

Will they get it passed? Are they getting the public behind them?

The only public behind them are those that are in tune with conservative broadcasts like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The MSM doesn't spend much time reporting on things like this so how would they get the word out?

They're doing everything they can, but our government (by design) was created so that no one power controls all. All they can do is take action and hope the public is paying attention.

They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Aaaaahhh fuck!!!!!!
I'll post it again for the millionth time.
I started working in machine shops over twenty five years ago.
The average hispanic ratio was around 4% when I retired five years ago it was above 80%.
These were jobs you could make a living on. Wages went stagnant in the early 90's because of it and friends I have still in the industry have told me it's gotten nothing but worse.
So when do you start supporting an anti immigrant stance and those who will do something about it?

I just did. Pass the bill, the unworthy will be thrown out and NO MORE.

Stop fucking letting immigrants in PERIOD!!!!!!
When we have an America that is fully employed fine let in some immigrants in as needed.

If they can't work, they'll stop coming. Only way.

Than stop supporting politicians that support illegal immigration.
The only way.

I don't support the GOP, who've given illegals a perfect invitation to come here, get fake ID and a job. Pass the gd bill with good SS/ID. You're duped again.

Talk about duped.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Alright. Pull up government revenue from the years with tax cuts & prove it.

If you bothered to actually look you would see that you're wrong. I know that flies in the face of talking points but the proof is there for all to see.

Went down after Bush tax cuts.
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Instead of being the typical hack faggot on this site let's look at bit deeper and see how much honesty you posess.

www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2012/10/15/do-tax-cuts-increase-government-revenue/

As the graph on your link also confirms, revenue went down with the Bush tax cuts.

Well when the government stops confiscating your money that should be expected.
It will come back when business feels comfortable about investing more money without fear of losing it to the tax man.
Which is the same thing the public feels about taxes.

businesses will always be in fear of taxes going up when we run huge deficits and have such a high national debt with no effort of congress to cut spending and raising revenues to pay off the debt...

when clinton raised taxes in 1993 to reduce the deficit and pay down the debt, the economy took off....BECAUSE of his actions, consumer and business confidence rose... fear subsided, when businesses KNEW the game plan...instead of worrying about what it could be....

Businesses dont pay taxes,we do in increased costs for products.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Republicans are doing everything they can but they can't get past a 60 vote Senate and then the President.

It is a debate they could easily win if they wanted. I don't think they do however. Ultimately the rich who fund their campaigns want the cheap labor. The repubs talk like they want to do something, but really they don't.

You have a bad habit of turning things off you don't like to hear or read.

I just listed three things that are relevant to Republicans and their stance on foreigners coming to this country, and you act like I never responded at all.

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'
By SUSAN FERRECHIO (@SUSANFERRECHIO) • 10/17/15 12:01 AM

Senate Dems to block bill punishing 'sanctuary cities'

Will they get it passed? Are they getting the public behind them?

The only public behind them are those that are in tune with conservative broadcasts like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The MSM doesn't spend much time reporting on things like this so how would they get the word out?

They're doing everything they can, but our government (by design) was created so that no one power controls all. All they can do is take action and hope the public is paying attention.

They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

 

[Care4all]

Went down after Bush tax cuts.
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Instead of being the typical hack faggot on this site let's look at bit deeper and see how much honesty you posess.

www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2012/10/15/do-tax-cuts-increase-government-revenue/

As the graph on your link also confirms, revenue went down with the Bush tax cuts.

Well when the government stops confiscating your money that should be expected.
It will come back when business feels comfortable about investing more money without fear of losing it to the tax man.
Which is the same thing the public feels about taxes.

businesses will always be in fear of taxes going up when we run huge deficits and have such a high national debt with no effort of congress to cut spending and raising revenues to pay off the debt...

when clinton raised taxes in 1993 to reduce the deficit and pay down the debt, the economy took off....BECAUSE of his actions, consumer and business confidence rose... fear subsided, when businesses KNEW the game plan...instead of worrying about what it could be....

No, what Clinton did was follow the advice of Newt Gingrich and cut capital gains taxes. Between that cut and the technology bubble, we had a great economy because the lower the capital gains taxes, the more people invest. It's the main reason why we keep capital gains taxes down in the first place.

He did that too, but his first tax reconciliation tax plan in 1993 IS what set the nation on the right track moving in the right direction....and gave the consumer and business confidence the nation needed for the kick start.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So taxing companies helps the middle class?
You dumbass,you've seen the results of your ignorant ideas.
Companies stop hiring when their future is uncertain.

I would change corporate taxes and give breaks for hiring US workers, paying well, and giving good benefits. If they met certain criteria I would be fine with zero taxes paid by a company that takes good care of employees. That's how you would have a strong economy again. And it would shrink government.

How about our government stop allowing illegals and immigrants in?
That alone would increase the hourly wage.

I've already said I'm not pro illegal immigration. But the illegals are fighting for the lowest paying jobs. It does drag down wages, but it is just a small part of the problem. Like I said before it's more sending jobs to other countries and bringing in foreigners for better paying jobs that is doing most of the real damage. What do you not like about what I would do? Do you like big government? My plan would shrink government by having companies take care of employees, that's the only way government will ever shrink.

Aaaaahhh fuck!!!!!!
I'll post it again for the millionth time.
I started working in machine shops over twenty five years ago.
The average hispanic ratio was around 4% when I retired five years ago it was above 80%.
These were jobs you could make a living on. Wages went stagnant in the early 90's because of it and friends I have still in the industry have told me it's gotten nothing but worse.
So when do you start supporting an anti immigrant stance and those who will do something about it?

I've already said I would throw the illegals out. But who should I support in that? Repubs have majority in congress and aren't doing anything. I really think it is like the debt for them, just something they talk about.

You been living under a rock?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

He's mixing posts.

He isn't mixing posts. He's ignoring them.
Typical hack technique

Nah..he asked me what the Messiah hit me with.
It was what bill that hit me with a high CG tax and what I did with the money Bush awarded me after the billdo left office.
I spent it knowing I didnt have someone hostile towards investment.
Once the commie in office is gone I'll start spending money again,until then I'll spend like a pauper.

You still haven't said what new taxes Obama has hit you with.

Clearly the bush tax cuts didn't do much for the economy so you must have been the only one.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bush-tax-cuts.bmp

Compare that to growth under Clinton.

Tech bubble.