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Taxing the wealthy more will have little to no impact on your life or anyone around you

Will they get it passed? Are they getting the public behind them?

The only public behind them are those that are in tune with conservative broadcasts like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The MSM doesn't spend much time reporting on things like this so how would they get the word out?

They're doing everything they can, but our government (by design) was created so that no one power controls all. All they can do is take action and hope the public is paying attention.

They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.
 
Bullshit.
They dont raise prices because they have to stay competitive with the competition.
When there is a tax hike all businesses take the hit and all of them raise prices.
So no you dont have any idea how business works.

That's not logical, according to the "free" market ideology, prices are determined by supply and demand. There is a price that maximizes profit, it doesn't matter if you tax that profit by 10%, 20% or 30%, the price that maximizes profit is still the same.

And calling me comrade is akin to calling Bernie Kernal Sanders a right wing extremist.
Giving the impression you know nothing of politics as well.

And Bernie isn't a right wing extremist, just a moderate rightwinger.

I call lots of people comrade, no need to get upset. I could also call you a clueless Ayn Rand fanatic but I try not to be insulting.

:coffee:

Taxes are part of doing business.

I'm a landlord, and if our city increases our property tax, I have to increase rental prices. So do my competitors in this city. We all get taxed together and we all pass on that expense to our tenants together.

The same holds true for any business. If the federal government taxes my widget factory, I have to increase the prices of my widgets just like my competitors do.
 
An income tax is unconstitutional...

And you'd pay for your military how without it?
Flat tax, nothing to do with income....

You can't be serious. So the poor pay the same as the wealthy even though the wealthy benefit so much more I suppose? Oh and everyone pays even the poorest right?
Right now the bottom 47% very little to no "income" tax...

Put a flat tax on purchases...

Yes the very poor and the retired. Why would you want to tax either more?

What do you think raising taxes on business does?
Do the poor not purchase things?
 
The only public behind them are those that are in tune with conservative broadcasts like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The MSM doesn't spend much time reporting on things like this so how would they get the word out?

They're doing everything they can, but our government (by design) was created so that no one power controls all. All they can do is take action and hope the public is paying attention.

They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

What gives you the right to tax someone because they died?
 
An income tax is unconstitutional...

And you'd pay for your military how without it?
Flat tax, nothing to do with income....

You can't be serious. So the poor pay the same as the wealthy even though the wealthy benefit so much more I suppose? Oh and everyone pays even the poorest right?
Right now the bottom 47% very little to no "income" tax...

Put a flat tax on purchases...

Yes the very poor and the retired. Why would you want to tax either more?
If a flat tax is put on purchases then the individual can control what the pay in taxes thus better controls on federal government expenditure...
 
They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

What gives you the right to tax someone because they died?

An inheritance tax doesn't tax the dead person. It taxes the recipients of the inheritance.
 
The only public behind them are those that are in tune with conservative broadcasts like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. The MSM doesn't spend much time reporting on things like this so how would they get the word out?

They're doing everything they can, but our government (by design) was created so that no one power controls all. All they can do is take action and hope the public is paying attention.

They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

There is spending on necessities and there is spending on frivolous social programs.

The Democrats want to waste our money on social programs and the Republicans want to spend it on necessities.

Nobody should be taxed when they die for crying out loud. It doesn't matter if you are taxing ten people or ten million. Taxing people after death is immoral no matter who you're talking about.
 
They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

What gives you the right to tax someone because they died?
The person who dies isn't getting taxed. The person that gets a windfall of income from the death is the one being taxed.
 
Income tax is unconstitutional because the sixteenth conferred no new power of taxation...

Dumb a$$
 
The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

What gives you the right to tax someone because they died?
The person who dies isn't getting taxed. The person that gets a windfall of income from the death is the one being taxed.
So taxing a dollar more than once is ok??
TO HELL WITH THAT!!!
 
Taxes are part of doing business.

I'm a landlord, and if our city increases our property tax, I have to increase rental prices. So do my competitors in this city. We all get taxed together and we all pass on that expense to our tenants together.

The same holds true for any business. If the federal government taxes my widget factory, I have to increase the prices of my widgets just like my competitors do.

Oh joy, another tax fanatic

We were talking about taxes on profits however, not property taxes (those are indeed cost of doing business).

:alcoholic:
 
Besides, after the GOP's massive redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1%, only the top 1% has the money to pay.

There has been no GOP "redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1%."
In an economic system that rewards success, those who successfully pursue wealth get rich. Those who don't, don't get rich.
Conversely, an economic system that punishes success gets lots of Detroits.
Gov't meddling will not end poverty but it has (and does) hinder both human advancement and the creation and accumulation of wealth.

The poor are not poor because the rich are rich.
 
The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

What gives you the right to tax someone because they died?
The person who dies isn't getting taxed. The person that gets a windfall of income from the death is the one being taxed.

No because government takes their money before it goes from the dead person to the heirs.

If my father is worth a million dollars, and he passes that on to his children and grand children, we may each get about $70,000 a piece. If government comes along and takes half of that money first, then we are actually getting taxed at a much higher bracket for the money we are getting.

Government gets a much bigger cut from my fathers estate than his very own children. What's right about that?
 
Besides, after the GOP's massive redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1%, only the top 1% has the money to pay.

There has been no GOP "redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1%."
In an economic system that rewards success, those who successfully pursue wealth get rich. Those who don't, don't get rich.
Conversely, an economic system that punishes success gets lots of Detroits.
Gov't meddling will not end poverty but it has (and does) hinder both human advancement and the creation and accumulation of wealth.

The poor are not poor because the rich are rich.
The poor are poor because of progressive government practices...

Income should be none of the governments business...
 
Taxes are part of doing business.

I'm a landlord, and if our city increases our property tax, I have to increase rental prices. So do my competitors in this city. We all get taxed together and we all pass on that expense to our tenants together.

The same holds true for any business. If the federal government taxes my widget factory, I have to increase the prices of my widgets just like my competitors do.

Oh joy, another tax fanatic

We were talking about taxes on profits however, not property taxes (those are indeed cost of doing business).

:alcoholic:

How is it different? A tax is a tax and must be recouped for business to continue.
 
They aren't really trying. People aren't behind it because they look like a bunch of jerks trying to kick out poor immigrants. They need to get the message across that it is to increase wages and help with inequality. They need to make any dems against it look bad, but they don't do that. They don't really want to pass anything. Their rich owners want the cheap labor.

The Republicans are fighting to stop this amnesty and illegals, and the Democrats are fighting to keep it. You choose which side you're on.

The repubs fight for a balance budget by giving the richest tax breaks and increasing military spending. Not much of a fight there either.

Really? So when was the last time the richest got a tax break?

Yes they want to increase military spending. Protecting the country is in our Constitution and they are obligated to do so. Planned Parenthood and Cash for Clunkers is not.

Well they are fighting to eliminate the inheritance tax, a tax effecting only the very richest.

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined. You aren't serious about balancing a budget if you are adding to spending.

What gives you the right to tax someone because they died?

It's not that I agree with the tax. But when the country is deeply in debt taxes shouldn't be lowered, especially for someone who can't complain. It shows they are not at all serious about being fiscally responsible. Eliminate it after the debt is handled.
 
It doesn't mean you shouldn't tax business

As long as you dont mind paying for their tax increase.

I also pay for increased labor costs, increased cost of supplies and increased costs of insurance

You are only taxed on your profit. More money you are making, the more you will pay

What the fuck does that have to do with a tax increase?

No..the more YOU pay to make up for the businesses lost revenue.

Of course. That is the way capitalism works. As a cost of doing business, you pay taxes to pay for roads, police and fire protection , schools from which you benefit

You are taxed on the profit from your business. If you can pass that on and still compete in the market, that is what you do

Yeah? And what do the welfare tit suckers contribute for those same services?
You cheer biting the hand that feeds you. One day that hand is going to slap the shit out of you.

You tax where the money is

Those who live in poverty have very little to contribute to taxes. Those with extensive wealth do
 
And you'd pay for your military how without it?
Flat tax, nothing to do with income....

You can't be serious. So the poor pay the same as the wealthy even though the wealthy benefit so much more I suppose? Oh and everyone pays even the poorest right?
Right now the bottom 47% very little to no "income" tax...

Put a flat tax on purchases...

Yes the very poor and the retired. Why would you want to tax either more?
If a flat tax is put on purchases then the individual can control what the pay in taxes thus better controls on federal government expenditure...

And it hurts the poor more than the rich.
 

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