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I'm arguing that easy access to guns leads to high homicide rates. Even angry children have little problem getting guns. I shared an example where a killer was caught trying to buy an illegal gun before anyone died. That's what can happen more often with real laws. Right now we can see what happens with easy access to guns and it isn't good. Regular mass killings. Homicide rate 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement shot and killed regularly. All that and we have the fullest jails in the world. We need real laws. I suppose you think driving laws are useless? A whole lot of people get speeding tickets, lose their licenses, get thrown in jails....I don't believe the problem of high homicide rates can be fixed at this time. We are a relatively violent culture compared to other developed countries and we put a higher value on gun ownership than other developed countries. You are arguing that since drugs are illegal, Americans wouldn't dare buy drugs on the street and so they wouldn't dare buy guns on the street if guns were illegal.He got caught because he was trying to buy a type of gun that was heavily regulated. It is far too easy to buy really dangerous weapons in this country. You seem to not want to fix the problem.I bought a gun a few years ago at a gun show. I had to pass a background check, but if I had failed it, I could have bought one on the street for a few dollars more and no one would have known about it. If the guy got caught trying to buy a gun, he was simply careless.Like the guy in Milwaukee who tried to buy a gun illegally and was caught before he killed anyone?If the TX shooter couldn't pass a background check and if he hadn't been able to find a private sale, what makes you think he wouldn't have sought to buy a gun illegally on the street? The point is if the demand is strong enough someone will supply it. Someone who is committed to committing a mass shooting will not be deterred by having to buy a gun illegally. Similarly, a gang member or drug peddler or other criminal who believes he needs a gun for defense or offense, will not balk at buying it illegally. In a culture like ours in which demand for guns is so strong, preventing the illegal sale of guns would be like preventing the illegal sale of alcohol or drugs; we would simply be creating a new criminal subculture.
You keep ignoring the fact that whenever the government tries to deny people the things they strongly want, a criminal subculture develops that supplies them. Criminals who want guns to commit crimes will not be deterred by having to break gun laws to buy them illegally and crazies who want to commit mass shootings won't be deterred by gun laws either. When Americans want to buy something and the government says, no, Americans buy it illegally.I'm arguing that easy access to guns leads to high homicide rates. Even angry children have little problem getting guns. I shared an example where a killer was caught trying to buy an illegal gun before anyone died. That's what can happen more often with real laws. Right now we can see what happens with easy access to guns and it isn't good. Regular mass killings. Homicide rate 4-5X higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement shot and killed regularly. All that and we have the fullest jails in the world. We need real laws. I suppose you think driving laws are useless? A whole lot of people get speeding tickets, lose their licenses, get thrown in jails....I don't believe the problem of high homicide rates can be fixed at this time. We are a relatively violent culture compared to other developed countries and we put a higher value on gun ownership than other developed countries. You are arguing that since drugs are illegal, Americans wouldn't dare buy drugs on the street and so they wouldn't dare buy guns on the street if guns were illegal.He got caught because he was trying to buy a type of gun that was heavily regulated. It is far too easy to buy really dangerous weapons in this country. You seem to not want to fix the problem.I bought a gun a few years ago at a gun show. I had to pass a background check, but if I had failed it, I could have bought one on the street for a few dollars more and no one would have known about it. If the guy got caught trying to buy a gun, he was simply careless.Like the guy in Milwaukee who tried to buy a gun illegally and was caught before he killed anyone?If the TX shooter couldn't pass a background check and if he hadn't been able to find a private sale, what makes you think he wouldn't have sought to buy a gun illegally on the street? The point is if the demand is strong enough someone will supply it. Someone who is committed to committing a mass shooting will not be deterred by having to buy a gun illegally. Similarly, a gang member or drug peddler or other criminal who believes he needs a gun for defense or offense, will not balk at buying it illegally. In a culture like ours in which demand for guns is so strong, preventing the illegal sale of guns would be like preventing the illegal sale of alcohol or drugs; we would simply be creating a new criminal subculture.
Pretty sure Europe doesn't have a death penalty actually.We have the fullest jails in the world. It doesn't work.We don't give a rat fuck who says it "worked.". We could throw everyone in jail and that would "work" even better but you see the problem, hopefully.Let's see if the Republican Sup Ct trashes NYC's gun control … that HAS worked.The new mayor seems no more interested in improving matters than did Emmanuel.
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Other countries kill their bad guys.
Fuck off.You stop what you canMass shootings are spectacular, but they constitute only a small percentage of the number of shootings we have each year. If the concern is the safely of the public, then the emphasis should be on the shootings in the poor and mostly minority neighborhoods of Chicago and the other cities and not on the occasional shootings that mostly effect white middle class people, but the Democrats ignore these shootings because they don't want to risk offending minority voters.I disagree with you. Mass shootings are about as bad as it can get. Most of the shootings in Chicago and other big cities are gang members shooting gang members. It's much worse when good, innocent people are gunned down for no reason. That doesn't mean the situation in Chicago isn't bad, but it is different. TX is the poster child for mass shootings so Ted shouldn't be talking. 4 out of 10 of the worst mass shootings were in TX. They have had 2 in just the last few weeks. They even had a shooter mass kill police there with a rifle.That hardly explains why Chicago's homicide rate is so much higher per capita than other cities. Obviously, there are factors other than the availability of guns that makes some cities so much more violent than others. Mass shootings in the US constitute only a tiny fraction of the total number of shootings, but Democrats try to make gun control about them because it saves them from having to deal with the fact that it is poor people and people of color who commit the vast majority of shootings and constitute the vast majority of the victims.She is right. Chicago guns come from out of
State. Meanwhile TX owns 4 of our 10 worst mass shootings.
Mass shootings are terrible but they are nothing compared to the everyday dangers poor people and people of color face in cities like Chicago and Baltimore where Democrats ignore the issue for fear of offending poor voters or voters of color. Identity politics is the total substance of the Democratic Party and it is killing people everyday across the country and not just in Chicago.
Democrats have politicized this issue by basing their position on mass shootings in order to appeal to white middle class voters without risking offencing minority voters, all the while ignoring the vast number of shooting that occur in America each year, in an act of profound political cynicism.
To stop mass shootings we need to stop making it so easy to get their weapons of choice
If we really want to stop gun violence, we need to go after handguns
AgreeYou stop what you canMass shootings are spectacular, but they constitute only a small percentage of the number of shootings we have each year. If the concern is the safely of the public, then the emphasis should be on the shootings in the poor and mostly minority neighborhoods of Chicago and the other cities and not on the occasional shootings that mostly effect white middle class people, but the Democrats ignore these shootings because they don't want to risk offending minority voters.I disagree with you. Mass shootings are about as bad as it can get. Most of the shootings in Chicago and other big cities are gang members shooting gang members. It's much worse when good, innocent people are gunned down for no reason. That doesn't mean the situation in Chicago isn't bad, but it is different. TX is the poster child for mass shootings so Ted shouldn't be talking. 4 out of 10 of the worst mass shootings were in TX. They have had 2 in just the last few weeks. They even had a shooter mass kill police there with a rifle.That hardly explains why Chicago's homicide rate is so much higher per capita than other cities. Obviously, there are factors other than the availability of guns that makes some cities so much more violent than others. Mass shootings in the US constitute only a tiny fraction of the total number of shootings, but Democrats try to make gun control about them because it saves them from having to deal with the fact that it is poor people and people of color who commit the vast majority of shootings and constitute the vast majority of the victims.She is right. Chicago guns come from out of
State. Meanwhile TX owns 4 of our 10 worst mass shootings.
Mass shootings are terrible but they are nothing compared to the everyday dangers poor people and people of color face in cities like Chicago and Baltimore where Democrats ignore the issue for fear of offending poor voters or voters of color. Identity politics is the total substance of the Democratic Party and it is killing people everyday across the country and not just in Chicago.
Democrats have politicized this issue by basing their position on mass shootings in order to appeal to white middle class voters without risking offencing minority voters, all the while ignoring the vast number of shooting that occur in America each year, in an act of profound political cynicism.
To stop mass shootings we need to stop making it so easy to get their weapons of choice
If we really want to stop gun violence, we need to go after handguns
No. You need to go after the crazies. Lock them up and they can't get guns. Never let them out until the releasing authority accepts legal responsibility for their subsequent behavior.
Kill the thugs. No reason whatsoever to collect them.
Leave the real people and their rights alone.
AgreeYou stop what you canMass shootings are spectacular, but they constitute only a small percentage of the number of shootings we have each year. If the concern is the safely of the public, then the emphasis should be on the shootings in the poor and mostly minority neighborhoods of Chicago and the other cities and not on the occasional shootings that mostly effect white middle class people, but the Democrats ignore these shootings because they don't want to risk offending minority voters.I disagree with you. Mass shootings are about as bad as it can get. Most of the shootings in Chicago and other big cities are gang members shooting gang members. It's much worse when good, innocent people are gunned down for no reason. That doesn't mean the situation in Chicago isn't bad, but it is different. TX is the poster child for mass shootings so Ted shouldn't be talking. 4 out of 10 of the worst mass shootings were in TX. They have had 2 in just the last few weeks. They even had a shooter mass kill police there with a rifle.That hardly explains why Chicago's homicide rate is so much higher per capita than other cities. Obviously, there are factors other than the availability of guns that makes some cities so much more violent than others. Mass shootings in the US constitute only a tiny fraction of the total number of shootings, but Democrats try to make gun control about them because it saves them from having to deal with the fact that it is poor people and people of color who commit the vast majority of shootings and constitute the vast majority of the victims.
Mass shootings are terrible but they are nothing compared to the everyday dangers poor people and people of color face in cities like Chicago and Baltimore where Democrats ignore the issue for fear of offending poor voters or voters of color. Identity politics is the total substance of the Democratic Party and it is killing people everyday across the country and not just in Chicago.
Democrats have politicized this issue by basing their position on mass shootings in order to appeal to white middle class voters without risking offencing minority voters, all the while ignoring the vast number of shooting that occur in America each year, in an act of profound political cynicism.
To stop mass shootings we need to stop making it so easy to get their weapons of choice
If we really want to stop gun violence, we need to go after handguns
No. You need to go after the crazies. Lock them up and they can't get guns. Never let them out until the releasing authority accepts legal responsibility for their subsequent behavior.
Kill the thugs. No reason whatsoever to collect them.
Leave the real people and their rights alone.
Lock up those expressing hatred towards minorities, Muslims, Mexicans, gays
They are a threat
So is mental illnessAgreeYou stop what you canMass shootings are spectacular, but they constitute only a small percentage of the number of shootings we have each year. If the concern is the safely of the public, then the emphasis should be on the shootings in the poor and mostly minority neighborhoods of Chicago and the other cities and not on the occasional shootings that mostly effect white middle class people, but the Democrats ignore these shootings because they don't want to risk offending minority voters.I disagree with you. Mass shootings are about as bad as it can get. Most of the shootings in Chicago and other big cities are gang members shooting gang members. It's much worse when good, innocent people are gunned down for no reason. That doesn't mean the situation in Chicago isn't bad, but it is different. TX is the poster child for mass shootings so Ted shouldn't be talking. 4 out of 10 of the worst mass shootings were in TX. They have had 2 in just the last few weeks. They even had a shooter mass kill police there with a rifle.
Democrats have politicized this issue by basing their position on mass shootings in order to appeal to white middle class voters without risking offencing minority voters, all the while ignoring the vast number of shooting that occur in America each year, in an act of profound political cynicism.
To stop mass shootings we need to stop making it so easy to get their weapons of choice
If we really want to stop gun violence, we need to go after handguns
No. You need to go after the crazies. Lock them up and they can't get guns. Never let them out until the releasing authority accepts legal responsibility for their subsequent behavior.
Kill the thugs. No reason whatsoever to collect them.
Leave the real people and their rights alone.
Lock up those expressing hatred towards minorities, Muslims, Mexicans, gays
They are a threat
Hate is perfectly legal.
So is mental illnessAgreeYou stop what you canMass shootings are spectacular, but they constitute only a small percentage of the number of shootings we have each year. If the concern is the safely of the public, then the emphasis should be on the shootings in the poor and mostly minority neighborhoods of Chicago and the other cities and not on the occasional shootings that mostly effect white middle class people, but the Democrats ignore these shootings because they don't want to risk offending minority voters.
Democrats have politicized this issue by basing their position on mass shootings in order to appeal to white middle class voters without risking offencing minority voters, all the while ignoring the vast number of shooting that occur in America each year, in an act of profound political cynicism.
To stop mass shootings we need to stop making it so easy to get their weapons of choice
If we really want to stop gun violence, we need to go after handguns
No. You need to go after the crazies. Lock them up and they can't get guns. Never let them out until the releasing authority accepts legal responsibility for their subsequent behavior.
Kill the thugs. No reason whatsoever to collect them.
Leave the real people and their rights alone.
Lock up those expressing hatred towards minorities, Muslims, Mexicans, gays
They are a threat
Hate is perfectly legal.
