Teen arrested for defending him self against the mob!

[beautress]

Hopefully, the jury selection would weed out psychopaths such as yourself who are incapable of distinguishing right from wrong.

The mere fact that you keep on insisting that self defense is murder says to me that no jury in America would ever want such a nut case on it.

Except it's not self-defense when you created the situation by breaking the law to start with.

He shot three people, two of them unarmed and fatally.

Hodgekinson didn't quite finish off Scalise, but a cop prevented him from murderous mayhem of execution of all Republicans on his hit list that was found in his shirt pocket post mortem.

 

[JoeB131]

Hodgekinson didn't quite finish off Scalise, but a cop prevented him from murderous mayhem of execution of all Republicans on his hit list that was found in his shirt pocket post mortem.

Okay... So Scalise made it easier for nuts to get guns, and a nut with a gun shot him. I'm actually feeling a sense of Karma.

Except he was saved by a gay black woman, despite a long history of making life harder for gay people and people of color. So that was kind of anti-karma.

 

[Jitss617]

The act of standing there, is not legal justification for assault.

Your claim is just not true.

And self defense is not murder.

He just stood there? He said nothing? He was just standing and a peaceful protest formed around him. Suddenly someone tried to take his borrowed assault rifle away and that is justification for murder?

Yep, running into a peaceful riot brandishing a deadly assault rifle will get you attacked. The kid lost, regardless of how you try to call it self defense, the kid faced murder charges as an adult.

People have every right to self defense, even if that is defending themselves against an armed teen threatening them with an assault rifle.

I saw a video and heard one story, that a fire was set in a dumpster and Kyle was the one with the extinguisher who put it out. That pissed off the rioters and they turned their attention towards him and his compadres, and shortly after, he was attacked for the first time.

This is unconfirmed AFAIK, but plausible, considering the attitudes of the mob.

You heard wrong, the teen murderer was not involved in putting out that fire. But since you're so blindly accepting that putting out that fire was a catalyst to go after him, why didn't the mob go after the guy you actually put that fire out?

I said it was unconfirmed, didn't I?

Idk, did they?

Yes, you did say that. And I said it wasn't the teen murderer. And no, they didn't go after the guy who did put it out.

Hard to tell if it was him or not.

Pretty sure it doesn't matter though.

No, not hard at all. Teen murderer, white hat; this guy, no hat. Teen murderer, light green shirt; this guy, dark shirt. Teen murderer, dark pants; this guy, light pants. Teen murderer, rifle; this guy, no rifle.

I can see how you were easily confused between the two.

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

 

[JoeB131]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

 

[beautress]

Hodgekinson didn't quite finish off Scalise, but a cop prevented him from murderous mayhem of execution of all Republicans on his hit list that was found in his shirt pocket post mortem.

Okay... So Scalise made it easier for nuts to get guns, and a nut with a gun shot him. I'm actually feeling a sense of Karma.

Except he was saved by a gay black woman, despite a long history of making life harder for gay people and people of color. So that was kind of anti-karma.

No, Scalise was saved by a secret service cop who shot Hodgkinson before he finished off Scalise, who was first on the Hodgkinson hit list.

We Republicans do no harm in thought, word, and deed against any black person since. the Democrats fired on Fort Sumpter shortly after the first Republican President Abe Lincoln defeated his Democrat opponent for President. No wonder you Dimmies want to poke out Trump's eyes and had to support the killers in BLM and Antifa to avoid legal truths.

You're sleepwalking on tiptoes through the bullets and bombs your team hurls at decent Americans, doll. Naughty, naughty. No worries, though. Trump will win, because God is on his side.

 

[playtime]

It is not wrong to leave your house with your gun, nor to go to a public place and stand there.

It is if you are 17 years old in Wisconsin you can not open carry, that is breaking the law.
It was also breaking the curfew law in place.
It is also against the law to take an assault rifle to a riot with the intent to kill.

It is going to be very hard for the teenager to defend his actions when the prosecutor holds up a terrifying assault weapon to the jury and proclaims, "this is the military assault weapon this man intended to murder somebody with"


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So far you are wrong on just about everything you posted....

The hispanic teenager may not have been breaking the law....there is an exception for long guns for under 21 year olds....and you have no evidence to show he wanted to kill people, in fact, the actual video evidence shows the exact opposite, you dumb shit.....

And it isn't a military weapon you dumb ass........the AR-15 has never been used by the military....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Family of AR-15 Inventor Eugene Stoner: He Didn't Intend It for Civilians


June 16, 2016, 11:19 AM UTC / Updated June 16, 2016, 6:24 PM UTC
By Tony Dokoupil


Family of AR-15 creator speaks out
June 16, 201601:56

The AR-15 is the most talked about gun in America.

But the AR-15’s creator died before the weapon became a popular hit and his family has never spoken out.

Until now.

"Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47,” the Stoner family told NBC News late Wednesday. "He died long before any mass shootings occurred. But, we do think he would have been horrified and sickened as anyone, if not more by these events."



Once Banned, These Assault Rifles Are Hugely Popular in the U.S.
June 14, 201600:52

The inventor’s surviving children and adult grandchildren spoke exclusively to NBC News by phone and email, commenting for the first time on their family’s uneasy legacy. They requested individual anonymity in order to speak freely about such a sensitive topic. They also stopped short of policy prescriptions or legal opinions.

But their comments add unprecedented context to their father’s creation, shedding new light on his intentions and adding firepower to the effort to ban weapons like the AR-15. The comments could also bolster a groundbreaking new lawsuit, which argues that the weapon is a tool of war — never intended for civilians.

Eugene Stoner would have agreed, his family said.

The ex-Marine and "avid sportsman, hunter and skeet shooter" never used his invention for sport. He also never kept it around the house for personal defense. In fact, he never even owned one.

And though he made millions from the design, his family said it was all from military sales.

"After many conversations with him, we feel his intent was that he designed it as a military rifle," his family said, explaining that Stoner was "focused on making the most efficient and superior rifle possible for the military."

He designed the original AR-15 in the late 1950s, working on it in his own garage and later as the chief designer for ArmaLite, a then small company in southern California. He made it light and powerful and he fashioned a new bullet for it — a .223 caliber round capable of piercing a metal helmet at 500 yards.

The Army loved it and renamed it the M16.
Family of AR-15 Inventor: He Didn’t Intend It for Civilians

who cares what his intentions were,,the 2nd amendment is specifically for weapons of war,,,

CASE CLOSED,,,

the 2nd amendment has its legal limits.

why can't you own a ground to air missile launcher? hell, how about yer own little nuke? those are shirley weapons of war.

uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh.

case blown wide open.

i WOULD SAY i LOVE HOW some take it to the extreme in defense of restrictions as a rational defense of your opinions,,

sadly I cant,,,truthfully its a pathetic defense,,,

we are talking about standard personal arms not nukes or missiles,,,

now explain to me why we should let the very people the 2nd was meant to protect us from should be allowed to dictate what we can own???

1st of all - i am not against the 2nd amendment & have several firearms in my home.

if you really wanna get technical about that there 2nd amendment - which was meant to protect society from its own gov'ment, should they turn tyrannical ... is a no contest situation if they really wanted to bring the hammer down.

washington has quite the regs when it came to guns & ammo.

you ever heard of vietnam or Afghanistan???

and sorry based on your comments you are not for the 2nd A,,you are merely a gun person that allows your choices controlled by people far away,,,

and its meant to protect us from tyranny where ever it may come from,,,

lol ...

based on yer comments - you need big powerful weapons of war to go ratatatat & boom boom boom to make up where you lack ...

elsewhere.

in fact I havent fired one of my many guns in over a yr,,,I dont have them for the joy of bang bang


now try to stay on topic and leave the personal stuff at home,,,

<pfffft> you called me a liar. seems that was personal. & if you can't hit yer target & bring it down in 10 shots, then you're lacking something somewhere.

so youve completely left the topic in favor of keeping it personal,,,

typical when you cant defend your POV,,,

no i haven't. the topic was weapons of war are not meant for the GP. ronnie reagan even figured that one out. if you can't bring your target down within 10 rounds, you have no business owning anything that could take high velocity ammo held in multi round mags or drums.

so it takes you 10 rounds to bring down your target,,,

you should practice more,,,

I dont care what reagan said,,the 2nd was specifically for weapons of war,,,unless of course you can prove it wasnt,,,

remember most if not all of the founders said it was and why they put it in the rights of man,,,

weapons of war are designed to take mags & drums containing way more than 10 rounds...

last time a war was declared on US soil was a few centuries ago.

washington also had them thar weapons locked up & not in soldiers quarters...

& a musket is not an AR 15. they had no concept of such a weapon.

when the gov'ment decides to trash the constitution, declare war on its own citizens & enough military decide to turn their weapons on americans, within our borders, then you can say you were right... but like i said - it's all an illusion if you think you would even have a chance.


A well regulated Militia, ( are YOU part of one? )

being necessary to the security of a free State, ( we are still free, but i will concede that is eroding every day )

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, ( you have that right ... within legal limits )

shall not be infringed.

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so you admit you dont support the 2nd A,,,
thanks for the clarification,,,

the 2nd doesnt say anything about guns or their capacity nor does it say you need to be in a militia,,,
nor does it allow for restrictions of any arms,,,,

the time the constituion was written - the need to spell all that out was moot.

but there you go again - getting personal. rest assured, the guns in my home, are very real. they are useful for hunting & protecting my domicile.

the only one i personally use is for killing tree rats & i am damn good at it. i certainly don't need 10 rounds even when they are jumping from limb to limb, but you go on with yer delusion.

oh - was that personal?

We don't give a shit what you need or don't need. Doesn't make a damn bit of difference to us. I need high capacity magazines for the security of a free state and if you don't like like it you can kiss my Cracker ass.

whatever you say you CONflag waving torch bearer. & that there 'state' can blow yer lily white ass to kingdom come if you even tried.

 

[playtime]

Hodgekinson didn't quite finish off Scalise, but a cop prevented him from murderous mayhem of execution of all Republicans on his hit list that was found in his shirt pocket post mortem.

Okay... So Scalise made it easier for nuts to get guns, and a nut with a gun shot him. I'm actually feeling a sense of Karma.

Except he was saved by a gay black woman, despite a long history of making life harder for gay people and people of color. So that was kind of anti-karma.

No, Scalise was saved by a secret service cop who shot Hodgkinson before he finished off Scalise, who was first on the Hodgkinson hit list.

We Republicans do no harm in thought, word, and deed against any black person since. the Democrats fired on Fort Sumpter shortly after the first Republican President Abe Lincoln defeated his Democrat opponent for President. No wonder you Dimmies want to poke out Trump's eyes and had to support the killers in BLM and Antifa to avoid legal truths.

You're sleepwalking on tiptoes through the bullets and bombs your team hurls at decent Americans, doll. Naughty, naughty. No worries, though. Trump will win, because God is on his side.

god would never be on the side of a fornicationg adulterer who puts little children into cages.

besides -

donny thinks he IS god.

 

[playtime]

Some gave none

that's right.

like donny.

He’s giving his entire salary, you?

LOL!!!!

if donny isn't lying about his wealth, he makes more than a prez's salary in interest alone ... so he wouldn't miss it. i do give to charity...

lots of them. & the ones i give to, have never been shut down due to fraud.

oh & i pay my taxes, have never been audited, & am not under investigation for bank & insurance fraud either.

And you are clueless-----being audited is not a sign of wrong doing. In fact, it very common in businesses especially in ones that don't pay off the right politicians----like the dems Bezos Buffet and others.

uh-huh ... alrighty then - after nearly 4 years of 'auditing' ... why hasn't donny given his taxes up for review, then? nixon did.

donny won't.

but we know why & sooner or later they will be made public; since new york has 'em & deutche bank is cooperating.

 

[Turtlesoup]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

Omg, you have been told repeatedly and you still post lies. He did not bring a gun across state lines and I know that you know this you lying propagandist.

 

[Jitss617]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

Omg, you have been told repeatedly and you still post lies. He did not bring a gun across state lines and I know that you know this you lying propagandist.

He’s a troll block him

 

[playtime]

Some gave none

that's right.

like donny.

He’s giving his entire salary, you?

LOL!!!!

if donny isn't lying about his wealth, he makes more than a prez's salary in interest alone ... so he wouldn't miss it. i do give to charity...

lots of them. & the ones i give to, have never been shut down due to fraud.

oh & i pay my taxes, have never been audited, & am not under investigation for bank & insurance fraud either.

And you are clueless-----being audited is not a sign of wrong doing. In fact, it very common in businesses especially in ones that don't pay off the right politicians----like the dems Bezos Buffet and others.

Al sharpton

lol .... they caught him, didn't they? but the bigger question is - why won't donny give up his? anybody running for prez has done so, even under audit.

but donny won't. even if it shows no wrongdoing, one logical reason would be that they would reveal that he isn't as wealthy as he claims.

 

[playtime]

Some gave none

that's right.

like donny.

He’s giving his entire salary, you?

LOL!!!!

if donny isn't lying about his wealth, he makes more than a prez's salary in interest alone ... so he wouldn't miss it. i do give to charity...

lots of them. & the ones i give to, have never been shut down due to fraud.

oh & i pay my taxes, have never been audited, & am not under investigation for bank & insurance fraud either.

So did he give his salary away? Yes or no? Hahahaha hahaha

lol ... so what. he can also write it off on his taxes ... you know - the thing he's hiding because he doesn't want something in there to come out.

 

[playtime]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

Omg, you have been told repeatedly and you still post lies. He did not bring a gun across state lines and I know that you know this you lying propagandist.

Facebook posts
stated on August 27, 2020 in a post:

“At 17 years old Kyle (Rittenhouse) was perfectly legal to be able to possess that rifle without parental supervision.”

Did Kyle Rittenhouse break the law by carrying an assault-style rifle in Kenosha?

If Your Time is short

• Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, of Antioch, Ill., has been arrested on five felony charges related to the shooting of three people at a protest in Kenosha, Wis. Two of the victims died.
• In addition to the felonies, Wisconsin court records show that prosecutors have charged Rittenhouse with one misdemeanor count of possession of a dangerous weapon under the age of 18.
• Since Rittenhouse is 17 years old, he would not qualify for a concealed carry permit in Illinois. It is against Wisconsin law for someone younger than 18 to possess “a dangerous weapon.”

See the sources for this fact-check

The 17-year-old accused of shooting three people during a protest in Kenosha, Wis., faces several charges — including first-degree intentional homicide. But some widely shared Facebook posts say he should be cleared of at least some of them.

In an Aug. 27 post, one Facebook user said it was "perfectly legal" for Kyle Rittenhouse — who was arrested in Antioch, Ill., after fleeing Wisconsin — to brandish an assault-style rifle on the streets of Kenosha.

"Carrying a rifle across state lines is perfectly legal," the poster said. "Based on the laws I can find of this area at 17 years old Kyle was perfectly legal to be able to possess that rifle without parental supervision."

The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

On Aug. 25, two protesters were killed and one injured after police say someone opened fire on them. The violence occurred on the third night of protests over the shooting of Jacob Blake, a Black man, by a white police officer in Kenosha. Blake survived, but he is partially paralyzed from a bullet that severed his spinal cord.

Rittenhouse stands accused of shooting the protesters. Since his lawyer has said that Rittenhouse obtained the assault-style rifle from a friend in Wisconsin (meaning that he didn’t transport it with him from Illinois), we’re going to focus on the second half of the claim — that it was "perfectly legal" for the teenager to carry a firearm in Kenosha.

Is that true? State laws suggest not.


The Wisconsin Department of Justice honors concealed carry permits issued in Illinois. But Rittenhouse did not have a permit to begin with, and he was not legally old enough to carry a firearm in Wisconsin.
PolitiFact - Did Kyle Rittenhouse break the law by carrying an assault-style rifle in Kenosha?

 

[playtime]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

Omg, you have been told repeatedly and you still post lies. He did not bring a gun across state lines and I know that you know this you lying propagandist.

it doesn't matter whether he did or didnot bring that gun across state lines - because he doesn't legally have a permit nor can legally have a weapon in his possession due to his age.

if he got that weapon from ' a friend ' then his buddy is also in deep doo doo.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Some gave none

that's right.

like donny.

He’s giving his entire salary, you?

LOL!!!!

if donny isn't lying about his wealth, he makes more than a prez's salary in interest alone ... so he wouldn't miss it. i do give to charity...

lots of them. & the ones i give to, have never been shut down due to fraud.

oh & i pay my taxes, have never been audited, & am not under investigation for bank & insurance fraud either.

And you are clueless-----being audited is not a sign of wrong doing. In fact, it very common in businesses especially in ones that don't pay off the right politicians----like the dems Bezos Buffet and others.

uh-huh ... alrighty then - after nearly 4 years of 'auditing' ... why hasn't donny given his taxes up for review, then? nixon did.

donny won't.

but we know why & sooner or later they will be made public; since new york has 'em & deutche bank is cooperating.

Here is a video of the "hero", Kyle Rittenhouse sucker-punching a girl. What a guy, huh? Although it is pretty funny to watch him crawling away from the guys who intervened in Kyle's punching the girl from behind.

No, it doesn't show anything from the riots. But I think it shows plenty about Kyle.

Why are two these foul mouth black guys hiding in a car recording a video and focusing in on minor kyle calling the supposed kyle by his name? And fyi, the video does not show what you or they claim.

 

[Turtlesoup]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

Omg, you have been told repeatedly and you still post lies. He did not bring a gun across state lines and I know that you know this you lying propagandist.

it doesn't matter whether he did or didnot bring that gun across state lines - because he doesn't legally have a permit nor can legally have a weapon in his possession due to his age.

if he got that weapon from ' a friend ' then his buddy is also in deep doo doo.
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My post wasn't so much about the gun being or not being brought acriss state lines but about the idiot lib poster knowingly lying and spreading propaganda.

 

[playtime]

Some gave none

that's right.

like donny.

He’s giving his entire salary, you?

LOL!!!!

if donny isn't lying about his wealth, he makes more than a prez's salary in interest alone ... so he wouldn't miss it. i do give to charity...

lots of them. & the ones i give to, have never been shut down due to fraud.

oh & i pay my taxes, have never been audited, & am not under investigation for bank & insurance fraud either.

And you are clueless-----being audited is not a sign of wrong doing. In fact, it very common in businesses especially in ones that don't pay off the right politicians----like the dems Bezos Buffet and others.

uh-huh ... alrighty then - after nearly 4 years of 'auditing' ... why hasn't donny given his taxes up for review, then? nixon did.

donny won't.

but we know why & sooner or later they will be made public; since new york has 'em & deutche bank is cooperating.

Here is a video of the "hero", Kyle Rittenhouse sucker-punching a girl. What a guy, huh? Although it is pretty funny to watch him crawling away from the guys who intervened in Kyle's punching the girl from behind.

No, it doesn't show anything from the riots. But I think it shows plenty about Kyle.

Why are two these foul mouth black guys hiding in a car recording a video and focusing in on minor kyle calling the supposed kyle by his name? And fyi, the video does not show what you or they claim.

well thank-you for including me in your non sequitur reply.

 

[playtime]

How is he a murderer he showed the sign that he was retreating.. also in Wisconsin the age to possess that type of weapon is 16 and older, Wisconsin is an open carry state.
so again what law did this kid break?

Actually, the age is 18.

He broke the law by bringing that gun across the state line and in violation of a curfew order.

Oh, yeah, and shooting three people.

Omg, you have been told repeatedly and you still post lies. He did not bring a gun across state lines and I know that you know this you lying propagandist.

it doesn't matter whether he did or didnot bring that gun across state lines - because he doesn't legally have a permit nor can legally have a weapon in his possession due to his age.

if he got that weapon from ' a friend ' then his buddy is also in deep doo doo.
[/QUOTE

My post wasn't so much about the gun being or not being brought acriss state lines but about the idiot lib poster knowingly lying and spreading propaganda.

other than the question about crossing state lines - what else is supposta be a 'lie & propaganda'?

 

[dblack]

Another shooting in Portland. Trump must be jerking off in front of his TV watching the reports.

 

[jc456]

State the statute asswipe . I think the ten guy’s chasing him created the situation. How did you miss that? Hmm odd you didn’t even watch the videos

gee, I only wipe my ass to get jc456 off of it, shit stinks.

You have proof I did not watch the videos?

When he left Illinois with the intent to obtain an assault rifle and confront the protestors in Wisconsin, that created situation. When you take an assault rifle to a fist fight you are a murderer. Nobody was armed in this situation except the person charged with murder. Sad as well, is that fact that Rittenhouse shot a man in the back. It will be hard to prove that it was not the shot in the back that killed the victim. How did you miss that.

The statue? Wisconsin statue 940.01  First-degree intentional homicide.

are you saying we can't travel to other states in the US? I'm really attempting to follow what your point is. but you didn't answer, did ten bullies attack the kid? it's a yes or no answer.