Ten most jaw dropping statements from Cohen's leaked testimony today....

Trump is in Vietnam doing his job
Nah, trump is in Vietnam getting stroked by a world leader that is a fucking moron, yet much smarter than Trump.
Is anyone who hates his own people smarter? Nah. Kim is a moron.

Kim IS a moron and a sucker. Trump saw him coming from miles away. Little Kimmy is no match for Trump. Trump is a much bigger American asshole, that's why we voted for him. MAGA!!!
 
Not so much when they are watching from behind the bars.
While the child president continues the con...
I can be honest and say that Trump is not the best but he's the best we've had in decades. I still support him.
Enabling and covering for horrible behavior is not really support, though. Would you be supporting your opioid-addicted family member, by covering for their use? No, intervention would be TRUE support. Would you be supporting his own wife/kids, to cover for him? No, you would be harming them.
I believe he is working for the people not a Republican agenda. Unemployment is down, cunsumer optimism is high, possible relations with North Korea, $100 million being paid to NATO from countries that would pay in the past, NAFTA is down, Obamacare down, things are better!
 
Enabling and covering for horrible behavior is not really support, though. Would you be supporting your opioid-addicted family member, by covering for their use? No, intervention would be TRUE support. Would you be supporting his own wife/kids, to cover for him? No, you would be harming them.

You are so full of shit. No one is enabling anything. That term 'enabling' is a vague psychological term. :tongue-44: As for my family, leave us alone. You neo-Marxists are so arrogant and pompous it is sickening to real Americans. GFY :fu:
 
With what we know about our mentally ill president, it may have been one little insult that broke them apart. People in his condition don't have any real sense of scale or degree, when it comes to slights. Toss off a comment in front of other people that he sounds like an idiot, and you might as well have pulled his pants down and punched him in the junk in pubic. Trump's ill mind recognizes no meaningful difference, there.

Funny how the mentally ill call others mentally ill. Sorry FF.....Get some help.
 
The fact that dems are grabbing onto the testimony of a convicted liar who is about to do hard time in a prison is very telling.
The fact that so many of these convicted liars were Trump's top people is also very telling.

And Comey testified under oath today that his crimes and his lies were his doing. Nothing to do with Trump. Nothing Cohen pled guilty to had to do with Trump and he himself said Trump never told him to lie.

So quit saying "Well he lied so it was to hide something about Trump." No, he lied because hes a fucking liar scumbag. Basically, a democrat.
Not quite.
Read the full text.
"Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That’s not how he operates. In conversations we had during the campaign, at the same time I was actively negotiating in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there’s no business in Russia and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing. In his way, he was telling me to lie."

This is exactly how people with power and brains get their dirty deeds done. They don't say blow the guy a way or steal the document. They say we got to have this and to underlings it's being ordered. Many a crime boss has gone to jail for crimes done with no specific order from the boss.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...a1530b333230e775df5/optimized/full.pdf#page=1
 
It is my understanding that Mueller threatened Cohens wife with a long prison sentence if he didn't sing. She co-signed a bank note that had false financial information in it. I understand she also faced up to 30 years in prison.

Anybody here really believe that Cohen wouldn't tell them exactly what they wanted to hear?

Mark


And of course ewe have a credible link for this.
 
Not quite.
Read the full text.
"Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That’s not how he operates. In conversations we had during the campaign, at the same time I was actively negotiating in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there’s no business in Russia and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing. In his way, he was telling me to lie."

This is exactly how people with power and brains get their dirty deeds done. They don't say blow the guy a way or steal the document. They say we got to have this and to underlings it's being ordered. Many a crime boss has gone to jail for crimes done with no specific order from the boss.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...a1530b333230e775df5/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

The 'truth' according to a known liar....
 
1. NO Collusion
2. NO Prague
3. NO blackmail of Trump
4. NO asking him to lie
5. NO illegal payments to Daniels
6. Yes, I lied to Congress
7. Yes, I am going to prison for perjury
8. Yes, I illegally withheld info
9. No evidence
10. No crime.
 

Funny, 10 totally meaningless statements, if they are even true. They carry no legal weight and at best are just one man's opinion to placate a prosecutor hoping to get leniency for himself. Worse, considering the source, questionable value in any regard. Best the funniest thing of all is that had Cohen waxed GLOWING PRAISE for Trump, the REALLY BIG QUESTION IS:

WOULD IT HAVE CHANGED YOUR OPINION OF TRUMP?

And we all know what the answer to THAT question is! :auiqs.jpg:

Put another way: another meaning nothingburger of a Trump-bashing thread that utterly fails again at its perceived mandate.
Like anything else. Accusations require corroborating evidence

Cohen has provided some evidence and pointed the right direction for further investigation

Let’s see where it goes

This has to be the dirtiest Administration in US History....Nixon and Clinton don't come close.....
LBJ was a scumbag Democrat.
LBJ was about as uncouth and lacking in civility as Trump. Like Trump he was a liar. However, the difference is LBJ told the big lies. Trump, on other is a pathological liar. Trump tells lies to exaggerate the truth, to say what he thinks people want to hear, and I believe often he just doesn't consider the truth important enough to check his facts.

The two men also shared other traits. For example both had the morals of an ally cat. They both were great deal makers, Trump in business and LBJ in politics. They were also both wealthy. Trump got his financial start from his father and LBJ married into money. Neither was really a self made man.
 
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Cohen provided some interesting insight into Trumps finances

Seems when he was being investigated for America’s richest man by Forbes he inflated his assets
When it came to paying taxes, he deflated their value.

Let’s have the IRS look into it
Trump exaggerates everything he says and does. It's always great, tremendous, really big. Nothing that he has every done in his entire life is insignificant, small, or mundane. When he meets with Kim, it will be a tremendous meeting. I wonder where Trump learned all this bull shit.
 
The old saying, "Birds of a feather flock together" certainly seems true of Trump and his gang. Cohen is only one of a dozen or more Trump associates who have been indicted, plead guilty, or under investigation. His former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, his former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates, his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen, his former personal lawyer, all now been convicted of felonies. He has 4 cabinet members leave under an ethical cloud . To think Trump has no involvement and knows nothing is being pretty naive.

Conservatives argue that what we see now is just democrats out to get Trump. However, that does not explain the 30 years of investigations, charges, and lawsuits. In the 70's, there there was violations of the Fair Housing Act. He was represented by the infamous Roy Cohn, a now disbarred lawyer who was known for shady legal practices and being a close friend of Trump. In the 80's, New York City brought him to court for using unethical tactics to force out tenants. In 88, the Justice department had in court for illegal stock deals. In the 90's his outrageous behavior resulted in a series of defamation lawsuits. He was also fined by New Jersey for illegal Casino operations. Sex related criminal cases from child rape to molestation were filed but later dropped. In 2000, he was charged with violation of state lobbying laws. In 2001, he was charged by the SEC for with inaccurate fillings and misleading statements about properties. In 2013, he was sued by the State of New York for defrauding students at Trump University. In the 30 years prior to his presidency, Donald Trump amassed over 3000 lawsuits about half being instigated by Trump mostly over business matters. However, the rest were filed mostly by investors, home owners, and government claiming violation of civil ordinances, fraud, and illegal business practices.

He’s the President, not on trial as a mobster. You lost. Deal with it.


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He's not on trial yet. In the past he's always been able to buy himself out of trouble. Those days are over, private settlements and payoffs aren't going to work.
 
Nothing criminal, so far.
It can NEVER be criminal to pay blackmail, or else the government would be aiding and abetting the blackmail.
The campaign finance laws are about making public, campaign contributions used to buy media time/
Paying blackmail has nothing to do with the media, or campaign finance laws.
The John Edwards case already went down this road and showed it goes nowhere.
There is lot more to campaign finance law. You not only have to make public contribution but you must report campaign expenses. Federal election law covers transactions "for the purpose of influencing" federal elections. Contribution limits are $2,700 so paying off porn stars would be a problem. In fact, there's a lot of election law violations.
 
I'm disappointed that the Democrats would use a disgruntled employe and at the same time, someone who has already lied to Congress to get digs in on President Trump.

They haven't done one single thing to negotiate fairly in this Congress. And when and if they do fool the public into giving them the red button, socialists have a way of hating down on anyone who says a peep about bad things they do. They're pushing communism too hard. I hope the American people tell them no at the polls next time. They aren't delivering anything but rehashed lies when they pull another stunt like putting a liar back up on the stand.
With so many of the Trump people facing jail or court, it's kind of hard to find upstanding members of the community that know anything about Trump's dirty little secrets.
 
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"They had no problem with Michael Cohen when he’s lying; they don’t like him when he’s a truth-teller."
--Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.)
GOP Attacks Michael Cohen, Ex-RNC Official Trump Employed For A Decade, As A Shady Liar

The Trump NaziCons are funny. Pitiful, but funny.

What's even funnier is watching you guy and girls come apart at the seams for two straight years.

Keep it up. I am entertained.

So, you're willing to watch America be torn apart for your entertainment? Not surprising.
That began when you guys decide on an incompetent liar and crook for president.
 
My Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Stalinist Progressive USMB friends, if you believe Cohens testimony will get Trump impeached, please put suiside prevention on speed dial
Impeachment is not a legal process. It is a political process and normal rules of criminal court do not apply. This why when you will see a bill of impeachment it will contain both violations of federal statues and ethical violations which are often more important than legal ones.

In the Clinton's bill impeachment he is accused of bad behavior, distrust,
bringing about disrepute on the Presidency, etc. The only actual crime stated was lying to congress.

The thinking that impeachment is a legal process is due to the term "high crimes and misdemeanors in the constitution. The meaning of that term is not what you think. It covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, and tax evasion. Technically, Trump could be impeached without a single violation of federal law being listed although that is unlikely.

Impeachment clause in the U.S. Constitution empowers the House of Representatives to remove the President, Vice-President or other civil officers of the U.S. from their office for committing offences like treason, bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Not unethical deeds.
No, the House of Representatives only indicts with a bill of Impeachment. They don't remove the accused. It take a trial in the Senate to do that.

The Term "high crimes and misdemeanors"comes out of English law and it was widely used in colonies to remove officials. It covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, and tax evasion. These are only examples of type charges that were common in those days. Any type of misconduct can be listed in a bill of impeachment. Violation of the law has never been the only criteria for impeachment.

In the Clinton bill of impeachment, the only federal statue violation was lying to congress. All the rest were ethics charges.
 
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Seriously, Cohen seems to be in the running for dumbest human ever, or at least a tie with Charles Manson.....

Can someone ask him his opinion or Trumps first wife's shoes?

We need his opinion on this


All you're doing, dumbshit, is commenting on Trump's judgement for a personal attorney for ten years.
Goddamn, you Trumpanzees are stupid.
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Trump has dozens of lawyers, Cohen was more of a shoe polisher
Although Trump has a number of lawyers, he has generally had only one personal lawyer. He uses his personal lawyer to handle the really dirty deeds and the private stuff. The Trump lawyer who really stands out is Roy Cohn, who was McCarthy's go to guy in 50's. Trump met him in 70's and they became close friend until in the 80's when Cohn was disbarred and died of Aids. Cohn was the guy most responsible for Trump's great deals. He got rid of tenants in building Trump wanted to sell, got wavers on zoning, got construction code violations to disappear, and dealt out hollow threats and spurious lawsuits to those he couldn't deal with. In fact, Trump called him the magician. Why Trump broke with him is unknown. Trump refused to talk about him, apparently he didn't visit him when he was ill and did not attend his funeral. However, that is not uncommon for Trump.
How Donald Trump and Roy Cohn’s Ruthless Symbiosis Changed America
Thank You, GOD, for not allowing me to be rich.
There is nothing wrong with being rich. It's just some people like Trump that lose all perspective about what is really important in life.
 

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