Texas Files Lawsuit at SCOTUS Against GA, PA, MI, and WI

This can't be serious. Texas has no standing to sue another state on that state's conduct under state law. Texas has no interest in another state's decision to send out ballot applications, nor any interest in whether those who received ballots in response to submitting the application returned those ballots, or how these ballots were handled once received. The pols who run the Texas government become more and more bizarre each day.

They have standing if they believe fraudulent practices in other States made their EV's worthless.

No do not haqve standing and they cannot demonstrate any harm. The arguments are the same ones that Trump has beem making ad nauseum and been thrown out ad nauseum.

Their EC votes have been countered by illegal changes to voting laws in the States in question.

Illegal according to who? Not the States in question. The issues of the legality of the election have been adjudicated and found to be within the authority of State officials. With the elections being legal, authoritative and certified.

Texas is demanding the Supreme Court overrule Pennsylvania on its OWN rulings on its OWN laws.

Good luck with that.

Way to shoot off your mouth with assertions about a topic you haven't bothered to be informed on. Yeah, that doesn't make you look like a moron at all.

Had you bothered to read the OP article, rather than just skimming the headline and running off to assert how it's all illegal because you don't like it, you would know that Texas filed this lawsuit with the US Supreme Court on the basis of violations of the US Constitution.

So yeah, it's illegal to the states in question, no one is impressed by state courts ruling that actions they themselves have taken are perfectly fine, state courts are inferior to the US Supreme Court anyway and can be reversed by them, and Texas is asking the Supreme Court to overrule these states on laws that apply to EVERYONE.

Basically, you were not only wrong, but laughably and ignorantly wrong, on every point you tried to assert. Bravo!!

Its illegal to the States in question.....according to who?

Not the states. The Texas petition for writ is a rehash of the same issues that have already been adjudicated in the State courts. And the State courts found no violation.

Texas lacks the standing to challenge the validity of the rulings in other states.

Already answered in the post you're "responding to", although obviously you're doing so without having read it first.

I don't repeat myself, and certainly not for fools like you. Try reading something before you start talking about it, fucktard.

No, you simply 'declared' that it was illegal. There's no such legal finding. Not by the State courts. Not by the state legislatures. Not by the Supreme Court.

Even Texas' petition for writ of cert is little more than an accusation. Not a legal finding.

So I ask again.....illegal according to who? You simply saying it must be so doesn't amount to much.
 
Also, in every State only the Legislature can create rules of election.

Nope. They could decide how a state chooses it's presidential electors. Not how the elections are run in the States. Each states legislature's have bound it's electors to the popular vote.

False. Only State Legislature's can create, amend, or nullify election laws in their State. Governors, State Attorney Generals, and local election officials have no such legal authority.
 
Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

Texas is the crookedest state in the union. Texas has no standing as they cannot prove any harm.
You smell that? It's called desperation and fear ya lying commie turd.
 
This can't be serious. Texas has no standing to sue another state on that state's conduct under state law. Texas has no interest in another state's decision to send out ballot applications, nor any interest in whether those who received ballots in response to submitting the application returned those ballots, or how these ballots were handled once received. The pols who run the Texas government become more and more bizarre each day.

They have standing if they believe fraudulent practices in other States made their EV's worthless.

No do not haqve standing and they cannot demonstrate any harm. The arguments are the same ones that Trump has beem making ad nauseum and been thrown out ad nauseum.

Their EC votes have been countered by illegal changes to voting laws in the States in question.

Illegal according to who? Not the States in question. The issues of the legality of the election have been adjudicated and found to be within the authority of State officials. With the elections being legal, authoritative and certified.

Texas is demanding the Supreme Court overrule Pennsylvania on its OWN rulings on its OWN laws.

Good luck with that.

Way to shoot off your mouth with assertions about a topic you haven't bothered to be informed on. Yeah, that doesn't make you look like a moron at all.

Had you bothered to read the OP article, rather than just skimming the headline and running off to assert how it's all illegal because you don't like it, you would know that Texas filed this lawsuit with the US Supreme Court on the basis of violations of the US Constitution.

So yeah, it's illegal to the states in question, no one is impressed by state courts ruling that actions they themselves have taken are perfectly fine, state courts are inferior to the US Supreme Court anyway and can be reversed by them, and Texas is asking the Supreme Court to overrule these states on laws that apply to EVERYONE.

Basically, you were not only wrong, but laughably and ignorantly wrong, on every point you tried to assert. Bravo!!

Its illegal to the States in question.....according to who?

Not the states. The Texas petition for writ is a rehash of the same issues that have already been adjudicated in the State courts. And the State courts found no violation.

Texas lacks the standing to challenge the validity of the rulings in other states.

Already answered in the post you're "responding to", although obviously you're doing so without having read it first.

I don't repeat myself, and certainly not for fools like you. Try reading something before you start talking about it, fucktard.

No, you simply 'declared' that it was illegal. There's no such legal finding. Not by the State courts. Not by the state legislatures. Not by the Supreme Court.

Even Texas' petition for writ of cert is little more than an accusation. Not a legal finding.

So I ask again.....illegal according to who? You simply saying it must be so doesn't amount to much.
That smell is your desperation and fear on steroids. Too bad mommie didn't coat hanger your ass.
 
Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

Texas is the crookedest state in the union. Texas has no standing as they cannot prove any harm.
You smell that? It's called desperation and fear ya lying commie turd.

Or.....your own wishful thinking?

By far, the most likely outcome of Texas' petition for writ is nothing. Just being denied.
 
Everything is bigger in Texas. Including my embarrassment caused by Cruz and Paxton.

Trump won Texas, therefore, we're not going to allow other states to have a say in the matter.
 
We cannot not allowing cheating democrats to ignore the Constitution

Biden cannot and will not cheat his way to the Presidency

Translation: we don't like the results of the election so we'll claim fraud without evidence and if the courts won't give us our way, we'll try and get the Republican state legislatures to install our candidate.

Oh there's evidence all right. Its on another thread on this board. Look it up.

Texas sues PA, GA, and three others. Texas has a very good case.

Texas has a shit case that is little more than theater for dipshits.

First, Texas doesn't have standing for the election laws in other states. This alone ends any viable legal challenge. But wait, there's more!

Second, the States in question have found no violations of their own election laws. The issues have been adjudicated. Killing the legal challenge again. But lets kick the dead horse, shall we?

Third, if this were genuinely a constitutional challenge to mail in ballots and not a political stunt, Texas would have filed suit against ALL states that used mail in ballots. Including, say, California. They didn't. They targeted only the swing States. Stripping the suit of even its internal logic.

Fourth, the Doctrine of Laches. If Texas genuinely felt that these changes would have invalidated Texas votes, they could have filed suit months and months ago. Instead, they waited to see results of the election. And only then filed suits based on those results. That's not how the law works. If the harm is in the process, you don't want to see if you like the results of the process before you sue.

Fifth, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud that the suit's logic is predicated on.

Sixth, the remedy that Texas is seeking is extreme. Delaying the electoral vote itself? Disenfranchising tens of millions of voters? Its absolutely unprecedented. Extreme remedies require extreme evidence. And Texas has none.

Seventh, waiting until the Safe Harbor day to file the suit demonstrates that Texas has no real interest in pursuing their suit. As they waited until the last possible moment to file, when their suit had the least possibility of being heard and the remedy offered.
Texas DOES have standing in other states if their right to equal protection is effected by what
Michigan and Georgia does, for instance. By changing their own election law improperly those
five states disenfranchise every Trump voter in America!

Secondly you are arguing an asinine point. There is no indication AT ALL that those others states
took any interest in investigating how they were making a mockery of their own election laws.
Why would they find fault with what they were doing? This is absolutely idiotic!
It demonstrates what a shitty desperate thinker you are.

Three, mail in ballots are not the bone of contention! So why would this Texas challenge
take on something NOT being debated?
I'm running out of insults but trust me,
this is as asinine as anything else you've argued, if it can be called that.

Four, NO...this is your stupidest point! You keep setting the bar higher and higher.
Why would Texas argue months ago about something that only came to light with this presidential election?
Why wasn't Lee Harvey Oswald put under arrest months before he allegedly shot John F. Kennedy?
Is Texas at fault now for not being prescient? It doesn't get any more idiotic than this! I hope.

Five...there is .tons of evidence for voter fraud and the damage it did.
You wish there was none. The Dominion vote changing machines alone bury that bullshit where it can't stink up this post. There is SO much evidence of fraud and corruption.

Six, what is the remedy that Texas seeks? How do you remedy an election that is based on fraud
and constitutional illegalities and is at heart, profoundly crooked?
You must remove votes obtained illegally.

And seven, attacking the day Texas filed their suit is lame and pointless
No one is asking Biden to leave office once he somehow gets in.
If you find a man with his head in a noose is innocent of charges against him
is it better to wait until after he has had his neck snapped to bring the matter up?
Or before hand?

Seven bizarre points raised. Seven absurd points demolished by reason and logic.
 
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Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

Texas is the crookedest state in the union. Texas has no standing as they cannot prove any harm.
You smell that? It's called desperation and fear ya lying commie turd.

Or.....your own wishful thinking?

By far, the most likely outcome of Texas' petition for writ is nothing. Just being denied.
Fear, desperation, lies, that's all ya got.
 
Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

Texas is the crookedest state in the union. Texas has no standing as they cannot prove any harm.

Asking for more consistency and uniformity in the Electors Clause is “crooked”? How? The lawsuit brought on by Texas will most likely not change the outcome of the ‘20 Election but it will give US some necessary structure around voting integrity moving forward and not having future elections be conducted like some third world, banana republic.

The state of Texas has no standing and cannot demonstrate any harm. Any structure is up to the individual states Texas has no say in this. You are the ones who are trying to turn this into a third world banana republic. These arguments have been rejected by federal and state judges. Republican and Democrat and even judges appointed bt Trump.

All Texas has to do is get their AG or their SC to pass it along to the SC.
Yes, most conservatives are truly this ignorant of our judicial system.
 
While Michigan voters expanded mail ballot options to all voters by referendum in 2018, the state legislature did not make corresponding upstream and downstream policy changes to the election ecosystem that would facilitate a quicker, more efficient count. The Bipartisan Policy Center’s Task Force on Elections made several recommendations in January 2020 that align, in part, with those adopted in Michigan on September 24.

The bill package offers enhanced security for mail ballots, more processing time, correction of common voter errors, and better access for overseas military personnel and their spouses.

Michigan Judge Extends Mailed Ballot Receipt Deadline In ...
 
Here is the genius of this lawsuit...

Importantly, the Texas lawsuit presents a pure question of law. It is not dependent upon disputed facts. Although these unconstitutional changes to the election rules could have facilitated voter fraud, the State of Texas doesn’t need to prove a single case of fraud to win. It is enough that the four states violated the Constitution.

 
Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

Texas is the crookedest state in the union. Texas has no standing as they cannot prove any harm.
You smell that? It's called desperation and fear ya lying commie turd.

Or.....your own wishful thinking?

By far, the most likely outcome of Texas' petition for writ is nothing. Just being denied.

All legally cast votes must be evaluated in each State under exactly the same criteria. Otherwise equal protection rights under the Constitution have been violated. The Supreme Court already ruled this is the case in Bush v Gore.

If Wayne County Michigan as an example used a different criteria to evaluate mail in votes than another County in Michigan that is a equal protection case. That is what the Supreme Court must decide.
 
If you bootlickers really think that the SCOTUS is going to overrule state law to turn over the election process to the state legislatures, you’re out of your fucking minds



Here's your lesson on the US Constitution:


Not only has it been decided in the US Supreme Court that only the state legislature, and not any court, may alter or set the dates, but this played an important role in the 2000 Gore v Bush case.



“U.S. Supreme Court

McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1 (1892)

McPherson v. Blacker
Agued Oct. 11, 1892
Decided Oct. 17, 1892



“The validity of a state law
providing for the appointment of electors of President and Vice President having been drawn in question before the highest tribunal of a state as repugnant to the laws and Constitution of the United States, and that court having decided in favor of its validity, this Court has jurisdiction to review the judgment under Rev.Stat. § 709. Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.



Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”

supreme.justia.com


McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1 (1892)

supreme.justia.com

supreme.justia.com





The Supreme Court should require that no ballots received beyond the 5 o’clock deadline of election day be counted.



This is really funny.....

...some imbecile put us the 'disagree' emoticon.


I provide the actual Supreme Court case, and state what the Constitution says.....


....and government school grads feel (I almost said 'think') they can 'disagree.



Some school system, huh?
 
Everything is bigger in Texas. Including my embarrassment caused by Cruz and Paxton.

Trump won Texas, therefore, we're not going to allow other states to have a say in the matter.
Even your own ignorance and lack of morals are bigger, newbie.

Is their a kiddie's forum you could sharpen your game up in?

Break election laws and you should have no standing or be able to disenfranchise every other voter in the nation. Is this puzzling for you?
 
We cannot not allowing cheating democrats to ignore the Constitution

Biden cannot and will not cheat his way to the Presidency

Translation: we don't like the results of the election so we'll claim fraud without evidence and if the courts won't give us our way, we'll try and get the Republican state legislatures to install our candidate.

Oh there's evidence all right. Its on another thread on this board. Look it up.

Texas sues PA, GA, and three others. Texas has a very good case.

Texas has a shit case that is little more than theater for dipshits.

First, Texas doesn't have standing for the election laws in other states. This alone ends any viable legal challenge. But wait, there's more!

Second, the States in question have found no violations of their own election laws. The issues have been adjudicated. Killing the legal challenge again. But lets kick the dead horse, shall we?

Third, if this were genuinely a constitutional challenge to mail in ballots and not a political stunt, Texas would have filed suit against ALL states that used mail in ballots. Including, say, California. They didn't. They targeted only the swing States. Stripping the suit of even its internal logic.

Fourth, the Doctrine of Laches. If Texas genuinely felt that these changes would have invalidated Texas votes, they could have filed suit months and months ago. Instead, they waited to see results of the election. And only then filed suits based on those results. That's not how the law works. If the harm is in the process, you don't want to see if you like the results of the process before you sue.

Fifth, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud that the suit's logic is predicated on.

Sixth, the remedy that Texas is seeking is extreme. Delaying the electoral vote itself? Disenfranchising tens of millions of voters? Its absolutely unprecedented. Extreme remedies require extreme evidence. And Texas has none.

Seventh, waiting until the Safe Harbor day to file the suit demonstrates that Texas has no real interest in pursuing their suit. As they waited until the last possible moment to file, when their suit had the least possibility of being heard and the remedy offered.
Texas DOES have standing in other states if their right to equal protection is effected by what
Michigan and Georgia does, for instance. By changing their own election law improperly those
five states disenfranchise every Trump voter in America!

Nope. The rules that Texas is challenging are internal to each State. Texas doesn't get a say in how those rules are implemented outside of Texas. And the issues of raised by Texas are just rehashes of cases that have already been adjudicated in the State courts.

And rejected. There are no violations per the States themselves. And the rules for the election are internal to the State.

Its a closed loop. And Texas is outside the loop.

Secondly you are arguing an asinine point. There is no indication AT ALL that those others states
took any interest in investigating how they were making a mockery of their own election laws.
Why would they find fault with what they were doing? This is absolutely idiotic!
It demonstrates what a shitty desperate thinker you are.

The Supreme Court is not an investigatory court. Its an appeals court. If you're demanding investigations be redone to your satisfaction, you're confused on what the Supreme Court does.
 
Tramp is still hitting on Dem states and mainly on blacks, and now Tx is. Many whites supported Democrats. We will never forget what a loser Tx is.
 
Dont mess with Texas, ya freaking commies!


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

Texas is the crookedest state in the union. Texas has no standing as they cannot prove any harm.
You smell that? It's called desperation and fear ya lying commie turd.

Or.....your own wishful thinking?

By far, the most likely outcome of Texas' petition for writ is nothing. Just being denied.

All legally cast votes must be evaluated in each State under exactly the same criteria. Otherwise equal protection rights under the Constitution have been violated. The Supreme Court already ruled this is the case in Bush v Gore.

If Wayne County Michigan as an example used a different criteria to evaluate mail in votes than another County in Michigan that is a equal protection case. That is what the Supreme Court must decide.
As hideous and repugnant as your signature avatar is your post is just as eloquent and well stated.
 

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