Texas' Hateful Stance

How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com

OK ignorant ass, where does it say they are in favor of forced conversion therapy. That would be the only way this should be objectionable to anyone.

The attitude behind this platform should be objectionable to everyone.

What, supporting people who wish to seek therapy is a bad thing? Aren't you commies always claiming to be the champions of individual rights? So now you only support people who want to engage in behaviors you approve of, hypocrite much. Have you ever considered some people are pulled into the gay lifestyle by nurture and not nature and might want to change?
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com

Conservatives seeking to propagate the lie that being gay is a "mental illness" is nothing new.
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com


People in Texas say "Thank God for Mississippi!" or else THEY would be ranked the dumbest people in the U.S.

Texas is like the kid in school that keeps getting left behind in 7th grade. He thinks it's funny that he's shaving and driving to school while other kids are still riding the bus.
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com


People in Texas say "Thank God for Mississippi!" or else THEY would be ranked the dumbest people in the U.S.

That's why Texas is leading the country economically. Damn you people are stupid!
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com
Conservatives seeking to propagate the lie that being gay is a "mental illness" is nothing new.
Apparently, it is a genetic defect.
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com


People in Texas say "Thank God for Mississippi!" or else THEY would be ranked the dumbest people in the U.S.

That's why Texas is leading the country economically. Damn you people are stupid!
Stupid? Possibly.
Bigots? Certainly.
 
What's really unfortunate is that same sex marriage has been forced on an unwilling public ANYWHERE. What is a medical travesty is not recognizing that some men were led into homosexual lifestyles early and now recognize that they are not homosexual at all and need to be integrated into being a whole and heterosexual person.
Same-sex marriage has not been "forced" on an unwilling public. Citizens who are Gay or Lesbian and who work, pay their taxes, raise children or adopt them, who attend church and who vote just like you do, are simply asking for Equal rights, not "special" rights. They simply want what everyone else has and those citizens deserve that much. And they are open about it just as Blacks had to be open about obtaining their civil rights in the Fifties and early Sixties and why they refused to sit at the back of the bus and took to the streets in demonstrations. Had they not been so open they still would not have received their civil rights. The same with Gays. They have to be open about it but only because society, in effect, has been the one that has forced them to be so open by not being more reasonable such as to grant them their civil and human rights to be who they are without their having to demonstrate so openly in order to call attention to this important matter for them.

As to men being 'led' into a homosexual lifestyle early in life, that is a gross misconception. Those who are supposedly 'led' are either ready to express a part of themselves that had been repressed for a period of time or are willfully wanting to 'experiment' with a different lifestyle. Those men who feel they were 'led' to a homosexual lifestyle may have been willing participants in the beginning but if they were truly heterosexuals that is, Straight, to begin with then that is the reason they find afterward that they are not homosexual at all, as you put it. And that is why I do not believe there are people who say they were led to homosexuality and have now "miraculously" been led out of it into a straight heterosexual lifestyle. They were obviously not Gay to being with. They tried something different but since that was not the true sexual orientation they were born with they simply reverted back to who they truly are. That can only exemplify the fact that people are born either Gay or Straight. If they are Straight, it would be very difficult to think they could be 'forced' into becoming Gay. Conversely, if they were born Gay it would be even more difficult to force them to become Straight, something they were not born as. That is why this so-called Gay Conversion Therapy is being blasted and lambasted by medical professionals. Because you cannot change a person's sexual orientation through such dangerous "therapy" any more than you can change the color of a person's skin that they were born with through therapy. Let me ask you this. Do you think a person who is completely Straight and Heterosexual should be 'forced' to undergo Conversion therapy to become Gay? I think not. That is why it is so ludicrous to think that one can change a Gay person into something they are not such as Straight. It simply does not work that way. Those who may say they were changed were obviously not Gay to begin with. End of story.

How are men being molested as a boys being "ready to express themselves" as homosexuals? Maybe a woman molested as a girl is "ready to express herself" as a compulsive prostitute [an extremely common fate of girls who were molested]

Your denial of the abuse of molestation and its deep and complex effects on the human psyche are duly noted. Your glaring ignorance of childhood development and the complexities of imprinting a false sexual orientation are duly noted.

For those, however, who want to clear up the muddle and "the mystery", you can read what the Mayo Clinic, the CDC and over 300+ other peer-reviewed studies have to say about the matter at the links in the OP here: http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...wins-gay-legal-challenges-simple-as-that.html
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com


People in Texas say "Thank God for Mississippi!" or else THEY would be ranked the dumbest people in the U.S.

You do realize that Mississippi has a higher ratio of black people than any other state.

Racist!
 
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How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com

Conservatives seeking to propagate the lie that being gay is a "mental illness" is nothing new.

Well if a homosexual is that way because he is genetically predisposed no amount of "behavior modification" should change him then right?
Because what reparative therapy assumes is the gay is that way because of behavior influences.

I'm gonna get very basic here.
ALL men are promiscuous ! After all millions of sperm are available. So ejaculation be it with a woman or from another man is the objective.
I would say almost 100% of men on this forum would have no problem with another man bringing the man to ejaculation!
As a result most homosexuals are that way because they can have BJs anytime versus sexual relations with a woman is only on a consensual basis!

So what reparative therapy really does is shows gay men that straight sexual male/female activities are considerably more socially responsible!
After all where did AIDS get started? Men having sex with men. Is that socially responsible?
 
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After all homosexual behavior is NOT conducive to reproduction of the species.
Which is why it has always been the dominant allele codes for a functional protein whereas the recessive allele does not.
That means genetic coding puts sexual preference in a dominant/recessive status.
 
I think Texas probably has a higher Hispanic ratio than most states...so let's blame the anti-homo on the Catholic Hispanics you lunatics are foisting on us.

We told you you wouldn't like it.
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com

People in Texas say "Thank God for Mississippi!" or else THEY would be ranked the dumbest people in the U.S.

But one out of every five men in Texas can rebuild the engine in your car when it goes splat. You know, doing things that actually matter, while you whine in front of your computer.

If an invading army ever comes to your neck of the woods, what are you going to do to stop them — write on your blog about how monochromatic their soldiers' uniforms look? :badgrin:
 
How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com

Yes, and how "unfortunate" it was for Mr. Brat in Virginia that he came out to voters as more conservative on issues such as gay marriage than his rival Mr. Cantor.

Only 3 states are legally allowing "gay marriage". The rest you cite as "1/3" are not allowing it. They are being forced against their duly enacted law to say they are allowing it. The majority rules on behaviors in this country. And unless you can prove the very limited and exclusive club of 'LGBT' behaviors are a race of people, American law cannot be turned on its head by setting a precedent of protecting a certain select group of people's behaviors that the majority of this country contsistently line up in opposition to.

** Indicates PoliticalTorch's replies.

** That is incorrect. The judges who have ruled in these cases are fully empowered to do so under the law. You may not like the outcome but the law gives them the right to rule as they do, be it in favor of something or opposed. As to the majority ruling on behaviors of this country -- That is SHAMEFUL that they would be able to do so. You see, no state in the nation should allow a majority to vote on a minority when it concerns their basic civil and human rights. To do so is not only outrageous but it is downright despicable as it allows a prejudiced majority to disallow the rights minority citizens are fully entitled to receive and that is just plain Wrong!

**That is why literally 100% of the judges hearing cases across the nation on same-sex marriage are overwhelmingly ruling in favor of banning laws passed in the states by voters to exclude Gay marriage. That is the right thing for these judges to do and why many more will continue to rule in this manner until every state in the nation is GUARANTEED Same-Sex Marriage. And you have to stop to consider that many of the judges issuing such rulings are not only Liberal ones because many were appointed by Conservative presidents. But when it comes to doing the right thing it does not matter who put them there as they will administer the law to bring justice to those who have been marginalized such as to bring equality to their status as a person and human being. Again, that is the right thing to do.

**As for people lining up in opposition to Gay marriage, etc. Yes, there are still many bigots in this country. Many! And unfortunately they shamefully vote to try to resist a minority from being given the same rights they have and that can only be due to their fear of that which they do not understand as well as the brain-washing they have received over the years that they are far superior to others therefore can vote and make decisions about others whom they do not like or downright hate. That is why the courts have to step in and judges overrule that hate and malice those people have in society against others. And again, if the Civil Rights Act of 1964 had not been passed in that year, Blacks would still be sitting at the back of the bus, being hosed down and denigrated outright and unfairly by a bigoted majority. That is why the law had to step in and say NO! to protect their human and civil rights and why that will also happen in the case of Gay and Lesbian citizens seeking their Equal rights.

What behaviors objectionable to the majority will have to be allowed to follow that precedent next?

** That is what is wrong with the many who think as you do. They think of minority-status people in terms of their objectionable behavior such as that women are inferior to men so they should not be able to make the same salary as men or hold the high positions that men hold. And that Blacks should continue to be marginalized along with other minorities. But that is the pitiful and pathetic Majority for you! Always thinking they are so much better than anyone else. Always trying to denigrate those they consider inferior to them. To find out what are the behaviors objectionable to the majority, that should begin with a good personal self-examination of conscience such as to make them realize the wrong *they* are doing unto others as well as to themselves by their prejudiced, discriminatory, intolerant, hateful viewpoints. Those viewpoints need to seriously change in order for the world to live in better harmony.

As to conversion therapy, Texas is saying that whatever a child wants for himself is between him or her and their therapist. Imagine a state removing itself from the free speech between a professional therapist and his client??! I know you're used to fascism and this rattles you. But victims of same-gendered molestation deserve the right to carve their own sexual identities free of influences of their tortured past.

**That may be what Texas is saying but I submit to you, Texas Is Very Wrong With That Type of Thinking and Stance! A child is not fully able to decide for him or herself what kind of therapy they should use, if any, especially when it has been proven to be DANGEROUS. And one would think that their parents, being adults, presumably with better thinking processes and the capability of reasoning better would also research this matter first as they would surely find it is very DANGEROUS therapy to use on children or even adults! That cannot be stressed enough. Many have been hurt far worse than they have been helped with that kind of egregious "therapy" and why it is now outlawed entirely in some states.

**As to 'free speech' with reference to a client and a professional therapist, if a therapy they are using has been determined to be detrimental to the person they are using it on or intending to use it on then the state or federal government has every right to snatch that type of therapy from them in order to protect the public health which, after all, is what they are mainly charged to do.

**As to your reference of "fascism" I can readily see why that would be at the forefront of your mind since you and your political party are the main ones who think in those terms and that is simply pathetic.

**Meanwhile, your reference to "But victims of same-gendered molestation deserve the right to carve their own sexual identities free of influences of their tortured past." Leaves much to be desired. Are you not even aware that the vast majority of victims of same-gender molestations occur in their own families? Those that occur outside of that have been known to have been committed by *Heterosexual*, not Homosexual individuals.

Meanwhile not one effort is spared from the cult of LGBT to provide bridges, , counseling, coercion, "coming out" and "bi-curious" parties for straight kids. Only a one-way valve into the cult, but never back out of it eh?

**That is incorrect. Please see the following organizations that understand about the *integration* that needs to occur between Gay and Lesbian people and their Straight counterparts that is so necessary in order to try to dispel the myth that they are being "recruited" and to curb the intolerance that has become so pervasive today. They deserve our full support! Be sure and read through each one carefully as they help to make the case against the bigotry that you are seemingly so attached to.

The following is a great national organization that perhaps you should consider joining in order to learn more about Gay and Lesbians in their relation to Straights.

PFLAG: Parents, Families, & Friends of Lesbians and Gays PFLAG National

Study: Children from Intact Two-Mom Families Have Higher Self-esteem, Fewer Conduct Problems than Those from Intact Mom-Dad ones ? Mombian

Gay, Lesbian & Straight Network GLSEN | Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network

The Trevor Project The Trevor Project

Mom Finds Out Her Son Is Gay On Facebook, Writes Beautiful, Viral Response

How can you help your gay child? - Circle of Moms

"What do I do if my child is gay?" LEAD WITH LOVE FILM

A Grandfather?s Letter, Standing Up For His Gay Grandson | Truth Wins Out

For more on how sexuality is learned and therefore how it can be trained into youngsters, visit the links in the OP here: http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...wins-gay-legal-challenges-simple-as-that.html
And I hope you too have visited all of the links provided that should hopefully help to open your eyes to the mistake you are making in continuing to think as you do.
 
What's really unfortunate is that same sex marriage has been forced on an unwilling public ANYWHERE. What is a medical travesty is not recognizing that some men were led into homosexual lifestyles early and now recognize that they are not homosexual at all and need to be integrated into being a whole and heterosexual person.
Same-sex marriage has not been "forced" on an unwilling public.
Every time a court overturns a state law to that effect, the court, necessarily, forces gay marriage on an unwilling public.
Do you even realize what you're saying? You are saying that the court would force Gay marriage on a Straight couple that is, force them to marry a person of their own gender. That is simply not correct as no such thing occurs therefore, nothing could be further from the truth. It only allows same-sex couples the right to wed. Even very famous long-standing television soap operas such as "Days Of Our Lives" now have a Gay couple (Will and Sonny) who recently married and they showed the marriage on t.v. to let others see that Gay couples are rightfully deserving of the *Same* Rights that Straight couples enjoy.

Besides, just how are Straight people being affected in their own marriages with Gays having the right to marry? The courts have found time and time again that Straight Heterosexuals are Not being affected in any way, shape, or form by allowing other people to marry whom they love and want to be with. For example, if a Gay or Lesbian couple marries in Iowa and you live in Texas how is their marriage going to honestly affect *You*? In No Way Is It Going To Affect You, logically speaking, is the Answer! Even if you lived in their own state that should not affect you one iota so get rid of that notion already! You and others need to start thinking clearly about these issues and quit trying to incite fear into others with talk that cannot possibly withstand scrutiny as most all court judges have found.

Chris Matthews rips Texas Republican platform: ?How wide is this infection of hatred??
 
OK ignorant ass, where does it say they are in favor of forced conversion therapy. That would be the only way this should be objectionable to anyone.

The attitude behind this platform should be objectionable to everyone.

What, supporting people who wish to seek therapy is a bad thing? Aren't you commies always claiming to be the champions of individual rights? So now you only support people who want to engage in behaviors you approve of, hypocrite much. Have you ever considered some people are pulled into the gay lifestyle by nurture and not nature and might want to change?

Homosexuality is not a disorder, and neither is it a behavior. It is a natural sexual orientation, period.
 
The attitude behind this platform should be objectionable to everyone.

What, supporting people who wish to seek therapy is a bad thing? Aren't you commies always claiming to be the champions of individual rights? So now you only support people who want to engage in behaviors you approve of, hypocrite much. Have you ever considered some people are pulled into the gay lifestyle by nurture and not nature and might want to change?
Homosexuality is not a disorder, and neither is it a behavior. It is a natural sexual orientation, period.
Yes - a natural defect.
 
Same-sex marriage has not been "forced" on an unwilling public.
Every time a court overturns a state law to that effect, the court, necessarily, forces gay marriage on an unwilling public.

Do you even realize what you're saying? You are saying that the court would force Gay marriage on a Straight couple that is, force them to marry a person of their own gender. That is simply not correct as no such thing occurs therefore, nothing could be further from the truth.

Give it time. Specifically, when the Chinese paratroopers arrive.

Meanwhile, us backwoods folk will move into the caves and continue to make chillin' to fight the mf'ers. :badgrin:
 
Spiritual healing and recovery therapy is DIFFERENT
from the "forced conversion" that is fraudulent, abusive, and damaging.

You CAN'T punish or ban the EFFECTIVE NATURAL therapies
because of dangerous malpractice by frauds!

These are TOTALLY separate and opposites.
Spiritual healing has been documented in research to be
NATURAL and consistent with science and medicine.

If people cannot make a DISTINCTION between natural healing
and "forced fraud"

how do you expect people to make a DISTINCTION between
unnatural sexual behavior caused by sexual abuse
and people who are spiritually born homosexual and it is natural for them?

There is a DIFFERENCE between these.

There is medical documentation of UNNATURAL sexual abuses and addictions
healed by recovery therapy.

How unfortunate that at a time when over one-third of the states in the United States are allowing for same-sex marriage and are condemning hate against GLBT people, Texas has to come out with this crud. Gay conversion therapy has been shot down by many medical professionals as not working and causing great harm to many. Yet Texas, the backward state, has to introduce this as the *main* part of the Republican's agenda for Texas. The following article explains it quite well and exemplifies the need for Republicans to gather more love and compassion for people who may be different from them and to stop feeling they are far superior to them. But people are taking note of this everywhere. And in the end, it can only be remembered as a black mark against Texas and a black eye for the nation as a whole.

Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy?
Opinion: Why is Texas GOP backing gay conversion therapy? - CNN.com

Because there is a difference between effective recovery and spiritual healing of sexual addiction caused by unnatural abuse

vs. "fraudulent malpractice" by coercive punishment and torture that should be banned

These two have NOTHING to do with each other.

[MENTION=49463]PoliticalTorch[/MENTION] You CAN'T punish or ban the EFFECTIVE NATURAL therapies
because of dangerous malpractice by frauds!
 
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