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And here is liberal policy in all of its glory. Guns banned, people dying at alarming rates...
Mother's Day Weekend Bloodbath: 43 Wounded, 9 Killed in Chicago
Yet the US still has a much higher murder rate than any other first world country, and it's got the most relaxed gun laws too. And you can't see this.
Especially since it is categorically FALSE !
Really?
Which first world countries have a murder rate lower than the USA?
Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
From the AP:
"DETROIT — Police say a young Detroit girl who found a gun under her grandmother's pillow accidentally shot herself and died.
Police say the girl was 4 years old, but relatives at the scene said Mariah Davis was 5.
Sgt. Michael Woody says officers responded to the home around midnight Tuesday. The girl's grandparents were elsewhere in the house at the time of the shooting. Two other children weren't injured.
Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt says guns should be unloaded or secured with a child lock. He says Mariah's death is "sad and tragic" and could have been prevented.
Police Cmdr. Jacqueline Pritchett says charges are possible. She says she felt "sick" in her heart when she got the call."
This just happened.
Irresponsible firearm ownership. Criminal negligence. Indefensible, totally avoidable.
Guns don't kill people, little children do, I sawed it in a docuwmentuhrary on BB2.....
I'm sure the video games, TV, and movies aren't helping any either . . . . .
But it sure as hell isn't the guns. We've always had the 2nd.
Like I've said. People with guns are far more likely to kill than people without guns.
The fact that there are only 2 cities in the US above 250,000 people with lower murders than most of the first world, suggests that guns ARE a problem in society.
Then explain why more people are killed with fists and feet than by all rifles shotguns combined
You do know the bad acts of one person with a gun is proof that all gun owners are killers waiting to go on a shooting spree don't you?There is a bizarre fascination by some here with people getting harmed or killed. They comb the news for any act of misery on Earth that they can find.
Yet the US still has a much higher murder rate than any other first world country, and it's got the most relaxed gun laws too. And you can't see this.
Especially since it is categorically FALSE !
Really?
Which first world countries have a murder rate lower than the USA?
Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
From the AP:
"DETROIT — Police say a young Detroit girl who found a gun under her grandmother's pillow accidentally shot herself and died.
Police say the girl was 4 years old, but relatives at the scene said Mariah Davis was 5.
Sgt. Michael Woody says officers responded to the home around midnight Tuesday. The girl's grandparents were elsewhere in the house at the time of the shooting. Two other children weren't injured.
Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt says guns should be unloaded or secured with a child lock. He says Mariah's death is "sad and tragic" and could have been prevented.
Police Cmdr. Jacqueline Pritchett says charges are possible. She says she felt "sick" in her heart when she got the call."
This just happened.
Irresponsible firearm ownership. Criminal negligence. Indefensible, totally avoidable.
Guns don't kill people, little children do, I sawed it in a docuwmentuhrary on BB2.....
I'm sure the video games, TV, and movies aren't helping any either . . . . .
But it sure as hell isn't the guns. We've always had the 2nd.
Like I've said. People with guns are far more likely to kill than people without guns.
The fact that there are only 2 cities in the US above 250,000 people with lower murders than most of the first world, suggests that guns ARE a problem in society.
Then explain why more people are killed with fists and feet than by all rifles shotguns combined
How many people own rifles and shotguns in the USA?
When ALL GUNS, seeing as we're talking about guns, are taken into account, then we have a lot more murders than anything else combined.
FastStats
United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2014
In 2011 there were 11,203 firearm homicides.
In 2011 there were 14,661 murders.
I make that 76.4% of all murders are committed with firearms. 3/4
Now, funny you'd mention this, because the US murder rate is 4 times larger than the UK murder rate.
3.5 was the firearm homicide rate. This means the US murder rate was 4.66666 per 100,000.
The UK murder rate is 1.0
So, the UK murder rate is slightly lower than the US non-firearm murder rate.
Coincidence?
Especially since it is categorically FALSE !
Really?
Which first world countries have a murder rate lower than the USA?
Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
You do know the bad acts of one person with a gun is proof that all gun owners are killers waiting to go on a shooting spree don't you?There is a bizarre fascination by some here with people getting harmed or killed. They comb the news for any act of misery on Earth that they can find.
Oh please. We're not talking about all gun owners being guilty.
What we're talking about is guns in society and the impact guns, in the hands of humans, have on society.
You can wriggle and squirm all you like, but the impact is clearly there.
No matter how hard the liberals try, there are just too many real Americans who respect the U.S. Constitution in too many places to allow evil to prevail. Sorry libs, this is a war you can't win.
Meet the ‘Ultimate Badass’ Facebook Engineer Reportedly Helping Banned Gun Groups Behind the Scenes Amid New Firearms Policy
Yeah, respect the US Constitution, except when it demands equality for all, woopsie, we missed that bit, didn't we?
The Obama administration has said that veterans and people that believe in God are potential terrorists. How can trust anybody that bat shit crazy?
You can't trust Libtards with any interpretation of reasonableness because they are bat shit crazy and will always be unreasonable.
The government should not have the right to restrict the right to keep and bear arms. "Shall not be infringed" means exactly what it says.
Once we give these stupid Libtards the right to interpret who should be allowed the Constitutional rights and who shouldn't then the Bill of Rights isn't worth the parchment it is written on.
What is wrong with adhering to the Bill of Rights?
Yeah, no veteran has ever been a terrorist. Name ONE terrorist who has ever been a terrorist. Name one veteran who has ever blown up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Name one veteran who's ever planted a bomb in Oklahoma. Name one veteran who ever set off a bomb killing 168 people, name one veteran who killed people in 1995. Come on, I bet you can't.
You do know the bad acts of one person with a gun is proof that all gun owners are killers waiting to go on a shooting spree don't you?There is a bizarre fascination by some here with people getting harmed or killed. They comb the news for any act of misery on Earth that they can find.
Oh please. We're not talking about all gun owners being guilty.
What we're talking about is guns in society and the impact guns, in the hands of humans, have on society.
You can wriggle and squirm all you like, but the impact is clearly there.
Since most guns are in the hands of people who will never kill anyone with them they have very little effect on society.
Standing ovation....No matter how hard the liberals try, there are just too many real Americans who respect the U.S. Constitution in too many places to allow evil to prevail. Sorry libs, this is a war you can't win.
Meet the ‘Ultimate Badass’ Facebook Engineer Reportedly Helping Banned Gun Groups Behind the Scenes Amid New Firearms Policy
Yeah, respect the US Constitution, except when it demands equality for all, woopsie, we missed that bit, didn't we?
Constitutional rights are designed to protect equal opportunity. The protection of the law to allow a person to succeed or fail.
However, you Libtards have defined "equally" as equal outcome and that is absolutely wrong.
For instance, where were you when Obama was using the force of government with the IRS to disenfranchise the Tea Party? You sure as hell didn't support equality then, did you?
From the AP:
"DETROIT — Police say a young Detroit girl who found a gun under her grandmother's pillow accidentally shot herself and died.
Police say the girl was 4 years old, but relatives at the scene said Mariah Davis was 5.
Sgt. Michael Woody says officers responded to the home around midnight Tuesday. The girl's grandparents were elsewhere in the house at the time of the shooting. Two other children weren't injured.
Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt says guns should be unloaded or secured with a child lock. He says Mariah's death is "sad and tragic" and could have been prevented.
Police Cmdr. Jacqueline Pritchett says charges are possible. She says she felt "sick" in her heart when she got the call."
This just happened.
Irresponsible firearm ownership. Criminal negligence. Indefensible, totally avoidable.
Guns don't kill people, little children do, I sawed it in a docuwmentuhrary on BB2.....
I'm sure the video games, TV, and movies aren't helping any either . . . . .
But it sure as hell isn't the guns. We've always had the 2nd.
Like I've said. People with guns are far more likely to kill than people without guns.
The fact that there are only 2 cities in the US above 250,000 people with lower murders than most of the first world, suggests that guns ARE a problem in society.
Guns don't kill people, little children do, I sawed it in a docuwmentuhrary on BB2.....
I'm sure the video games, TV, and movies aren't helping any either . . . . .
But it sure as hell isn't the guns. We've always had the 2nd.
Like I've said. People with guns are far more likely to kill than people without guns.
The fact that there are only 2 cities in the US above 250,000 people with lower murders than most of the first world, suggests that guns ARE a problem in society.
Then explain why more people are killed with fists and feet than by all rifles shotguns combined
How many people own rifles and shotguns in the USA?
When ALL GUNS, seeing as we're talking about guns, are taken into account, then we have a lot more murders than anything else combined.
FastStats
United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2014
In 2011 there were 11,203 firearm homicides.
In 2011 there were 14,661 murders.
I make that 76.4% of all murders are committed with firearms. 3/4
Now, funny you'd mention this, because the US murder rate is 4 times larger than the UK murder rate.
3.5 was the firearm homicide rate. This means the US murder rate was 4.66666 per 100,000.
The UK murder rate is 1.0
So, the UK murder rate is slightly lower than the US non-firearm murder rate.
Coincidence?
I can't find a stat on how many people own rifles and shotguns but from my personal experience over the past 30 years everyone who I know who owns guns has rifles and shot guns some have handguns and some don't
We also know that the UK doesn't call a death a murder unless there is a conviction. So there is that to deal with as well.
We have also seen an increase in gun ownership over the last decade and a decrease in murder and violent crime
Coincidence?
In rural America firearms outnumber people many, many times over... The lowest crime rates are in rural areas. People kill people, firearms in law abiding hands have nothing to do with violent crimes.Especially since it is categorically FALSE !
Really?
Which first world countries have a murder rate lower than the USA?
Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
Really?
Which first world countries have a murder rate lower than the USA?
Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
But you argue that the number of guns increases the murder rate. So that seems to be false
And I never said guns have reduced crime I am saying that the increase in gun ownership and the decrease in murders and violent crimes contradicts your assertion that more guns = more murders
Rural areas have many, many more guns than people and less crime...Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
But you argue that the number of guns increases the murder rate. So that seems to be false
And I never said guns have reduced crime I am saying that the increase in gun ownership and the decrease in murders and violent crimes contradicts your assertion that more guns = more murders
Not necessarily the number of guns, no. I didn't say that.
What I'm saying is that guns freely available in society cause problems in society. There's a difference between the US and other countries in the guns are floating around so much in the US.
Numbers don't necessarily matter. Like people say, people kill people, not guns. You have the people and the guns, you have a murder rate 4 or 5 time higher. If you just have the people, then it will be much lower.
Contradicts something that I didn't actually say.
Even within the USA, more gun ownership doesn't lead to higher murder rates necessarily. There are plenty of factors to take into consideration.
The US has another issue which causes more murders, and that's a political system full of people reaping the rewards and doing nothing.
You do know the bad acts of one person with a gun is proof that all gun owners are killers waiting to go on a shooting spree don't you?There is a bizarre fascination by some here with people getting harmed or killed. They comb the news for any act of misery on Earth that they can find.
Oh please. We're not talking about all gun owners being guilty.
What we're talking about is guns in society and the impact guns, in the hands of humans, have on society.
You can wriggle and squirm all you like, but the impact is clearly there.
Since most guns are in the hands of people who will never kill anyone with them they have very little effect on society.
Rural areas have many, many more guns than people and less crime...Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
But you argue that the number of guns increases the murder rate. So that seems to be false
And I never said guns have reduced crime I am saying that the increase in gun ownership and the decrease in murders and violent crimes contradicts your assertion that more guns = more murders
Not necessarily the number of guns, no. I didn't say that.
What I'm saying is that guns freely available in society cause problems in society. There's a difference between the US and other countries in the guns are floating around so much in the US.
Numbers don't necessarily matter. Like people say, people kill people, not guns. You have the people and the guns, you have a murder rate 4 or 5 time higher. If you just have the people, then it will be much lower.
Contradicts something that I didn't actually say.
Even within the USA, more gun ownership doesn't lead to higher murder rates necessarily. There are plenty of factors to take into consideration.
The US has another issue which causes more murders, and that's a political system full of people reaping the rewards and doing nothing.
In rural America firearms outnumber people many, many times over... The lowest crime rates are in rural areas. People kill people, firearms in law abiding hands have nothing to do with violent crimes.Really?
Which first world countries have a murder rate lower than the USA?
Cute question - intentionally disingenuous. "What house with four people, ages 34, 32, 9 and 2, of which two have birthdays in the month of May, who drive a 4 year old Subaru with rust on the rear panel, is located on the north side of an east-west corridor, the name of which starts with P and ending with K has a small pine tree and an aspen in the left side of the yard as you face the house?"
The US ranks 34th in national homocide rates (in 2013) Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) | Data | Table
Er..... not at all.
I use first world countries because there are lots of issues with countries who aren't first world.
The US somewhere near the top of many rankings, like GDP, like size of the economy and so on. To compare the USA to a country like Somalia is just ridiculous. To compare the US to a country like South Africa is still ridiculous.
To compare the US with a country like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc, which have the money to spend on social programs, which have the education, the resources to deal with problems effectively, then you see what the US should be and what the US is not.
Germany murder rate 0.7
France murder rate 1.2
UK murder rate 1.0
Spain murder rate 0.6
Sweden murder rate 0.9
US murder rate 3.8
Do you see the difference?
You can try and play little games and pretend that the US should be compared to Honduras, but the reality is the US has a GDP of $55,000, Honduras has a GDP of $4,800.
There's a massive difference.
We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
You control freaks are delusional...
Cities are controlled by progressives and have the strictest "gun" control laws...Rural areas have many, many more guns than people and less crime...We have seen an increase in gun ownership and a steady decrease in homicides and violent crimes overall over the past decade in fact violent crime is the lowest it's been in 40 years why is that do you think?
If guns truly are a causation of the high murder rates shouldn't we be seeing an increase in murder and crime in general?
Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's because of gun ownership. Maybe it's because people are wealthier and crime has been moved to certain parts of town where people are left to rot away from everyone else.
Had gun ownership gone done, perhaps crime would also have gone down.
What about crime rates in the rest of the world? Have they gone down with more or less gun ownership?
You're making a claim, yet it's such a flimsy remark, it's almost pointless.
UK crime rates have dropped since 1996, in 1997 stricter gun control was put in place due to the Dunblaine School Massacre (where Jamie Murray was at, at the time)
So, saying that guns have reduced crime, is a little far fetched, don't you thunkt?
But you argue that the number of guns increases the murder rate. So that seems to be false
And I never said guns have reduced crime I am saying that the increase in gun ownership and the decrease in murders and violent crimes contradicts your assertion that more guns = more murders
Not necessarily the number of guns, no. I didn't say that.
What I'm saying is that guns freely available in society cause problems in society. There's a difference between the US and other countries in the guns are floating around so much in the US.
Numbers don't necessarily matter. Like people say, people kill people, not guns. You have the people and the guns, you have a murder rate 4 or 5 time higher. If you just have the people, then it will be much lower.
Contradicts something that I didn't actually say.
Even within the USA, more gun ownership doesn't lead to higher murder rates necessarily. There are plenty of factors to take into consideration.
The US has another issue which causes more murders, and that's a political system full of people reaping the rewards and doing nothing.
They do. However, as I've said in other areas, there are a lot more factors than just people with guns.
However in the UK there are rural areas too, and in all the other countries.
Cities are the main problem. But cities have guns too.
