Thanks Trump, for destroying the GOP

[Wry Catcher]

If the Republican Partry does die, what the hell do you folks think will replace it?

A ham sandwich?

A ham sandwich is more productive than the current iteration of the R Party.

However, your question is a good one, which only time will tell. Either the adults (aka generally called RINO's) will take back the party of ABE, TR and IKE or it will splinter into the several factions, each claiming they are real Republicans, something plutocrats cannot legitimately claim, nor can the reactionary social conservatives, single issue voters or the idiot fringe which dominates the ultra conservative set.

Some will follow anyone who appeals to their biases and prejudices and tells them what they want to hear, others will lead the charge to continue the pattern of character assassination if the next POTUS is a Democrat, creating what will once again lead to a non productive series of incriminations. And as sure as sunrise the power elite / plutocrats will spend the dollars necessary to influence the biddable that a return to the Gilded Age is the best course, the time before Social Security, Medicare, labor unions, etc, for only the wealthy create jobs and the great wealth they amass will trickle down to all. - and only fools will believe them.

 

[Iceweasel]

A ham sandwich is more productive than the current iteration of the R Party.

Whatever positive news is for the economy is due to them. The fact that you hate them proves they are doing something right.

 

[Uncensored2008]

A ham sandwich is more productive than the current iteration of the R Party.

However, your question is a good one, which only time will tell. Either the adults (aka generally called RINO's) will take back the party of ABE, TR and IKE or it will splinter into the several factions, each claiming they are real Republicans, something plutocrats cannot legitimately claim, nor can the reactionary social conservatives, single issue voters or the idiot fringe which dominates the ultra conservative set.

Some will follow anyone who appeals to their biases and prejudices and tells them what they want to hear, others will lead the charge to continue the pattern of character assassination if the next POTUS is a Democrat, creating what will once again lead to a non productive series of incriminations. And as sure as sunrise the power elite / plutocrats will spend the dollars necessary to influence the biddable that a return to the Gilded Age, the time before Social Security, Medicare, labor unions, etc/ is the best course, for only the wealthy create jobs and the great wealth they amass will trickle down to all.

You are a leftist, ergo you support a one party system. Because you advocate for authoritarianism, where the masses are ruled by an elite anointed by the party, you yearn for the collapse of any opposition to the party.

The party, ruling uncontested is the dream of the left. But you Bolsheviks have predicted the collapse of the GOP since at least 1964.

What Trump means to the Republicans is difficult to say, but if he is the GOP nominee, he will be president. Which will create a more populist GOP.

With the party rushing as far left as possible, the reaction of the peasantry you seek to rule with an iron fist is to become reactionary to your impositions. Trump is your creation, he is the response of the American people to what the party represents. That the Republicans bow and scrape before the party, barely slowing the imposition of the totalitarian state you promote, has pissed off those you seek to rule. Trump is their response.

 

[Wry Catcher]

A ham sandwich is more productive than the current iteration of the R Party.

Whatever positive news is for the economy is due to them. The fact that you hate them proves they are doing something right.

Please refer to the final phrase in my post above, it was designed for you and other members of the idiot fringe. Just for you I'll repost what you chose to leave out:

A ham sandwich is more productive than the current iteration of the R Party.

However, your question is a good one, which only time will tell. Either the adults (aka generally called RINO's) will take back the party of ABE, TR and IKE or it will splinter into the several factions, each claiming they are real Republicans, something plutocrats cannot legitimately claim, nor can the reactionary social conservatives, single issue voters or the idiot fringe which dominates the ultra conservative set.

Some will follow anyone who appeals to their biases and prejudices and tells them what they want to hear, others will lead the charge to continue the pattern of character assassination if the next POTUS is a Democrat, creating what will once again lead to a non productive series of incriminations. And as sure as sunrise the power elite / plutocrats will spend the dollars necessary to influence the biddable that a return to the Gilded Age is the best course, the time before Social Security, Medicare, labor unions, etc, for only the wealthy create jobs and the great wealth they amass will trickle down to all. - and only fools will believe them.

 

[Lilah]

Half of the republican party is ashamed to be in the GOP, because Trump has exposed the bigotry and hate that has been the right wing for so long.

Yesterday Trump threatened riots if he is not given the nomination of the GOP. This is so Nazi it's not even funny. He may even threaten Civil War if he is denied the White House.

So sad that the alternative is going to be.....you brought this on yourselves cons.

Would you cite the link where Trump threatened riots?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Trump tells the people what they want to hear, demagogues lead by appealing to the emotions and prejudices of the people, at least those persons who are biddable and ruled by their emotions.

Obama perfected this. Were you trying to add something?

You're too biased and not sagacious, thus you cannot differentiate the difference between Obama / Trump/Cruz/Rubio.

Oh yes I can. Biased? To who? The dems and repubs are abhorrent. You carry their milk though and bow before them like a good rube.

 

[Oldstyle]

If I recall...you folks on the left declared the GOP "dead" back in 2008 when Barry won the Oval Office and the Democrats had huge majorities in both the House and Senate. So how did that work out again?

It was on a downward spiral that finally reached the point it is at now.

So the "downward spiral" included the 2010 mid-terms? That was the largest gain of seats in Congress in modern political history! Some downward spiral!

Midterms only matter when Dims pick up seats. That's how it works.

That was the country saying "Whoa...we didn't vote for THIS!" when they saw what Barry, Harry and Nancy did with all that political control.

 

[Iceweasel]

A ham sandwich is more productive than the current iteration of the R Party.

Whatever positive news is for the economy is due to them. The fact that you hate them proves they are doing something right.

Please refer to the final phrase in my post above, it was designed for you and other members of the idiot fringe. Just for you I'll repost what you chose to leave out:

I chose to leave out your baloney. Deal with it.

 

[Oldstyle]

Trump tells the people what they want to hear, demagogues lead by appealing to the emotions and prejudices of the people, at least those persons who are biddable and ruled by their emotions.

what politician does not tell people what they want to hear?....

I can't answer that beyond what I've posted many times: watch their feet, not their lips (it is not what they say, it is what they do).

no its what they say to get elected and then when they are they all of a sudden seem to forget what they promised or have excuses as to the why it did not happen....

Considering the last two who held the oval office, one promised to be a compassionate conservative and a unite a the nation, and the other to end the war in Iraq and bring change, which one tried to walk the walk?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't one Barack Obama also promise to unite the nation? Has ANY President in history fomented more division than he has? Conservative versus Liberal. Rich versus Poor. Blacks versus Whites. Muslims versus Christians.

 

[thanatos144]

Half of the republican party is ashamed to be in the GOP, because Trump has exposed the bigotry and hate that has been the right wing for so long.

Yesterday Trump threatened riots if he is not given the nomination of the GOP. This is so Nazi it's not even funny. He may even threaten Civil War if he is denied the White House.

So sad that the alternative is going to be.....you brought this on yourselves cons.

You don't "get it"...do you, Hangover? This is about the American people getting fed up with the both the Republican establishment AND the Democratic establishment! Why do you think that Trump and Sanders have attracted such a following? The electorate is angry at the status quo...and I've got news for you...Hillary Clinton EMBODIES the status quo. Right now you seem to think she's got this thing wrapped up and quite frankly...I don't see it that way at all! I don't think she's got what it takes to turn out the liberal vote. You can see by the numbers of people voting that Democrats aren't energized by her. Bernie has the younger demographic excited but are they going to be there for Hillary? Sorry but that's questionable at this point.

You are the one that doesn't get it....Trump has successfully done Hillary's "divide and concur" strategy. he has divided the GOP in half for her. The cons are more worried about Trump winning than Hillary. Trump actually called his supporters stupid morons when he said that he could "murder someone on 5th avenue, and not lose any votes", and y'all really are too stupid to understand it. Play that fiddle Trump!

If it is Hillary and Donald left then there is no choice for they are the same.

 

[thanatos144]

I know you ignore history. just like you ignore all the truth about trump.

I don't ignore the truth. A lot of it is bullshit or I don't care. Some of it sucks, but perfection isn't realistic.
I don't ignore history. If you knew what Nazi Germany and socialism was, you wouldn't think they were socialist.
Who do you support?

Tell dumb ass what part of Trumps history proves he isn't for totalitarian control over everything?

Can you at least try to argue what I actually say?
Who do you support?

I support the conservative who wishes to conserve the constitution and the republican form of government.

Ah, but who defines COTUS then becomes the issue. Consider how Citizens United v. FEC & McCutcheon has impacted our Republic.

The constitution defines the government dummy....Why dont you actually read it instead of making ignorant posts like that.

 

[thanatos144]

Trump tells the people what they want to hear, demagogues lead by appealing to the emotions and prejudices of the people, at least those persons who are biddable and ruled by their emotions.

What politician doesn't do that?

Cruz.

 

[thanatos144]

This whole train wreck has been building, granted, but Trump really brought it to a new level.

So who controls the GOP after this? The "establishment" or the populists/nationalists?

Or neither? Could this actually continue a while after the election?


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Don't blame Trump for taking advantage of the hate and fear that the right has been cultivating for years. Without all that previous ground work, he wouldn't even be an issue.

Son it is lefties and ignorant hillbilly ( they just are to stupid to know they are lefties) who breed hate. Black lives matters right?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trump tells the people what they want to hear, demagogues lead by appealing to the emotions and prejudices of the people, at least those persons who are biddable and ruled by their emotions.

what politician does not tell people what they want to hear?....

I can't answer that beyond what I've posted many times: watch their feet, not their lips (it is not what they say, it is what they do).

no its what they say to get elected and then when they are they all of a sudden seem to forget what they promised or have excuses as to the why it did not happen....

Considering the last two who held the oval office, one promised to be a compassionate conservative and a unite a the nation, and the other to end the war in Iraq and bring change, which one tried to walk the walk?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't one Barack Obama also promise to unite the nation? Has ANY President in history fomented more division than he has? Conservative versus Liberal. Rich versus Poor. Blacks versus Whites. Muslims versus Christians.

Obama didn't say he was a uniter, that was Bush. Obama promised hope and change and his efforts were challenged every step of the way. Obama's skin color brought racists out of the closet and an honest person would put the onus on the rhetoric of his adversaries.

 

[Oldstyle]

Half of the republican party is ashamed to be in the GOP, because Trump has exposed the bigotry and hate that has been the right wing for so long.

Yesterday Trump threatened riots if he is not given the nomination of the GOP. This is so Nazi it's not even funny. He may even threaten Civil War if he is denied the White House.

So sad that the alternative is going to be.....you brought this on yourselves cons.

You don't "get it"...do you, Hangover? This is about the American people getting fed up with the both the Republican establishment AND the Democratic establishment! Why do you think that Trump and Sanders have attracted such a following? The electorate is angry at the status quo...and I've got news for you...Hillary Clinton EMBODIES the status quo. Right now you seem to think she's got this thing wrapped up and quite frankly...I don't see it that way at all! I don't think she's got what it takes to turn out the liberal vote. You can see by the numbers of people voting that Democrats aren't energized by her. Bernie has the younger demographic excited but are they going to be there for Hillary? Sorry but that's questionable at this point.

You are the one that doesn't get it....Trump has successfully done Hillary's "divide and concur" strategy. he has divided the GOP in half for her. The cons are more worried about Trump winning than Hillary. Trump actually called his supporters stupid morons when he said that he could "murder someone on 5th avenue, and not lose any votes", and y'all really are too stupid to understand it. Play that fiddle Trump!

If it is Hillary and Donald left then there is no choice for they are the same.

One major difference between the two, Thanatos...Hillary has taken millions from Wall Street fat cats...she owes them and they WILL collect on that debt. Trump is a billionaire. He doesn't owe anything to anyone.

 

[Iceweasel]

If it is Hillary and Donald left then there is no choice for they are the same.

Wow. You are seriously out there.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump tells the people what they want to hear, demagogues lead by appealing to the emotions and prejudices of the people, at least those persons who are biddable and ruled by their emotions.

Stupid bible clinginers eh? But at least your demagogue is "clean & articulate"

Obama was correct about the bible clingers....Today they are clinging to Trump

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations

Did Obama describe the Trump voter or what?

 

[westwall]

what politician does not tell people what they want to hear?....

I can't answer that beyond what I've posted many times: watch their feet, not their lips (it is not what they say, it is what they do).

no its what they say to get elected and then when they are they all of a sudden seem to forget what they promised or have excuses as to the why it did not happen....

Considering the last two who held the oval office, one promised to be a compassionate conservative and a unite a the nation, and the other to end the war in Iraq and bring change, which one tried to walk the walk?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't one Barack Obama also promise to unite the nation? Has ANY President in history fomented more division than he has? Conservative versus Liberal. Rich versus Poor. Blacks versus Whites. Muslims versus Christians.

Obama didn't say he was a uniter, that was Bush. Obama promised hope and change and his efforts were challenged every step of the way. Obama's skin color brought racists out of the closet and an honest person would put the onus on the rhetoric of his adversaries.

What a retarded thing to claim. obama had two years where he could have gotten everything he wanted. It took a majority of whites to elect him in the first place thus the claim that all those who are against him now are racists is patently ridiculous. I voted for him the first time because he promised to not be like all the rest of the ruling class. He was. In fact he was worse. He promised to be the most open admin ever. His was the most closed. Basically he lied about everything and the reason why people don't like him is not because of his skin color, it's because he's a lying sack of poo.

 

[hangover]

This country is not going to allow another Hitler.

STOP with the INSANE 'Hitler' propaganda B$ already! People who are pushing this rhetoric are liberals, desperate, insane, or 'all of the above'.

Demonizing a candidate has always been one of the Liberals' biggest 'go-to plays', and NO GOP candidate has scared the shite out of them this much in decades. So they are pulling out all the stops!

HOW the F* is Trump going to be 'Hitler'?
- Do we not still have a Congress?

- I know Obama / Libs set the precedence for a President to be able to rule almost dictatorially using Executive Orders, but BOTH the GOP and DNC career Washington Establishment Oligarchist Party Rulers are so threatened by and hate this man so much he might be the one thing that unifies them both - they will join forces to prevent this man from doing ANYTHING.

Man, combine the story of 'Chicken Little' with the story of 'Armageddon' in the bible, and that is what liberals (and many WE-GOP) are trying to make the rise of Donald trump Sound like.

Take an anxiety pill, put on your big-boy pants, take a moment to assess REALITY, breathe...and then re-join the grown-ups at the 'adult table'.

Don't look now, but even the majority of republicans are against Trump. If you had stayed awake in history class, you too could see the parallels of Hitler and Trump. When Hitler first went to power, Germany had a governing body similar to our congress, and an opposition party. Hitler destroyed both. And Trump's rhetoric looks like he thinks he can fire all of congress and do what ever he wants. That's why the GOP is trying to stop him. Trump threatens riots if he is denied the GOP nomination. If the GOP fails to stop Trump, he will probably threaten Civil War if he is not given the White House. There has never been a politician that has threatened his country since Hitler.

 

[Oldstyle]

what politician does not tell people what they want to hear?....

I can't answer that beyond what I've posted many times: watch their feet, not their lips (it is not what they say, it is what they do).

no its what they say to get elected and then when they are they all of a sudden seem to forget what they promised or have excuses as to the why it did not happen....

Considering the last two who held the oval office, one promised to be a compassionate conservative and a unite a the nation, and the other to end the war in Iraq and bring change, which one tried to walk the walk?

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't one Barack Obama also promise to unite the nation? Has ANY President in history fomented more division than he has? Conservative versus Liberal. Rich versus Poor. Blacks versus Whites. Muslims versus Christians.

Obama didn't say he was a uniter, that was Bush. Obama promised hope and change and his efforts were challenged every step of the way. Obama's skin color brought racists out of the closet and an honest person would put the onus on the rhetoric of his adversaries.

I) OBAMA PROMISES TO BE A UNITER OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE:

* “There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is a United States of America. There is not a black America and a white America, a Latino America, an Asian America, There is a United States of America.” -- Obama addressing the Democratic national convention in 2004 (here and here)

* “[Too often] we’re distracted from our real failures and told to blame the other party, or gay people, or immigrants.” -- Obama's announcement speech declaring his presidential candidacy (February 10, 2007)

* “I don’t want to pit Red America against Blue America. I want to be the president
 of the United States of America.” -- Obama at the 2007 Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Iowa

* “We have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division and conflict and cynicism…. That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, ‘Not this time….’” -- Obama speech in Philadelphia, addressing the controversy over Jeremiah Wright (March 18, 2008)

* Candidate Obama told Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone in 2008 that he would put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division and conflict and cynicism,” and that he would help Americans “rediscover our bonds to each other and to get out of this constant petty bickering that’s come to characterize our politics.”

* “If you don’t have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare voters. If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint
 your opponent as someone people should run from.” -- Obama, implicitly rejecting political scare tactics, during his presidential acceptance speech (August 28, 2008)

* “You [voters] said the time has come to move beyond the bitterness and ager and pettiness that's consumed Washington; to end the political strategy that's been all about division. And instead make it about addition; to build a coalition for change that stretches through red states and blue states.” -- Obama, after winning the Iowa Caucus (January 1, 2008)

* “The time has come for a president … who will listen to you and learn from you even when we disagree.... I will be that president for America.” -- Obama, after winning the Iowa Caucus (January 1, 2008)

* “I'll be a president who finally makes health care affordable and available to every single American, the same way I expanded health care in Illinois. By bringing Democrats and Republicans together to get the job done.” -- Obama, after winning the Iowa Caucus (January 1, 2008)

* “This [victory in Iowa] was the moment when we finally beat back the politics of fear and doubt and cynicism, the politics where we tear each other down instead of lifting this country up.” -- Obama, after winning the Iowa Caucus (January 1, 2008)

* “We are not a collection of red states and blue state. We are the United States of America.” -- Obama, after winning the Iowa Caucus (January 1, 2008)

* “I will listen to you,
 especially when we disagree… Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics
for too long.” -- Obama in Grant Park, Chicago, on the night of his election (Nov. 4, 2008)