Thanksgiving: The rest of the story

[DOTR]

By the OP's logic, the Indians should have never helped the colonists, because helping the poor and needy just encourages them to stay poor and needy.

That's a bizarre interpretation, but common for you. The settlers shared their bounty with the natives after they got their act together. So all prospered!

The conservative belief, well established, is that help for the poor does more harm than good - it makes them lazy and dependent.

Eh?

Teach a man to fish, and they will never vote democrat again.....

Jesus was a socialist, moron.

You are not a Christian. Jesus was not a socialist. Why dont you find another religion to smear?

 

[DOTR]

Look at Heaven in the Bible....The only one that possesses anything is God..

Ummmm...he kind of made everything...

Typical left winger...you even want to take God's stuff....

Typical right winger, thinking that an entity created everything..

I would agree that is very typical. A recognition that man isnt God leads to the humility that allows freedom.

 

[Disir]

The only ingredient missing is the one jack ass that insists the Pilgrims came straight to this land to escape religious persecution.

It isn't Thanksgiving until someone say that.

They were fleeing political persecution, the way the Pilgrims ran the govt. after the execution of the king, they were tyrants...

They weren't fleeing anything.

yet needed a charter to leave, so they must have been leaving for some reason...

They spent a decade in Holland before leaving. They left for opportunity. It was about cash.

Not that simple either way.

It's pretty simple once people admit the Pilgrims in Holland were faced with the same issues immigrants face anywhere. Hanging on to the "old ways" while the children acclimate quickly to the new area. And profit.

 

[Moonglow]

By the OP's logic, the Indians should have never helped the colonists, because helping the poor and needy just encourages them to stay poor and needy.

That's a bizarre interpretation, but common for you. The settlers shared their bounty with the natives after they got their act together. So all prospered!

The conservative belief, well established, is that help for the poor does more harm than good - it makes them lazy and dependent.

Eh?

Teach a man to fish, and they will never vote democrat again.....

Jesus was a socialist, moron.

You are not a Christian. Jesus was not a socialist. Why dont you find another religion to smear?

he didn't advocate not being rich?

 

[DOTR]

That's a bizarre interpretation, but common for you. The settlers shared their bounty with the natives after they got their act together. So all prospered!

The conservative belief, well established, is that help for the poor does more harm than good - it makes them lazy and dependent.

Eh?

Teach a man to fish, and they will never vote democrat again.....

Jesus was a socialist, moron.

You are not a Christian. Jesus was not a socialist. Why dont you find another religion to smear?

he didn't advocate not being rich?

We are speaking of your expertise in the religion you dont believe in...correct?

 

[Disir]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

 

[Moonglow]

The conservative belief, well established, is that help for the poor does more harm than good - it makes them lazy and dependent.

Eh?

Teach a man to fish, and they will never vote democrat again.....

Jesus was a socialist, moron.

You are not a Christian. Jesus was not a socialist. Why dont you find another religion to smear?

he didn't advocate not being rich?

We are speaking of your expertise in the religion you dont believe in...correct?

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Greek Mythology?

 

[DOTR]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

So they werent fanatical Christians? LOL. Make up your mind idiot.

 

[DOTR]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

It is called..."Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith..."

 

[DOTR]

"Inasmuch as the great Father has given us this year an abundant harvest of Indian corn, wheat, peas, beans, squashes, and garden vegetables, and has made the forests to abound with game and the sea with fish and clams, and inasmuch as he has protected us from the ravages of the savages, has spared us from pestilence and disease, has granted us freedom to worship God according to the dictates of our own conscience. Now I, your magistrate, do proclaim that all ye Pilgrims, with your wives and ye little ones, do gather at ye meeting house, on ye hill, between the hours of 9 and 12 in the day time, on Thursday, November 29th, of the year of our Lord one thousand six hundred and twenty-three and the third year since ye Pilgrims landed on ye Pilgrim Rock, there to listen to ye pastor and render thanksgiving to ye Almighty God for all His blessings."
Gov Bradfords proclamation

 

[boedicca]

Every year you tell the exact same lies.

And every year the Anti-Americans trash America. Thanks for playing.

 

[DOTR]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

Give your hatred for America a rest on Thanksgiving. Teach your kids better...if you arent some barren wombed feminist harridan...which I suspect you are.

 

[Disir]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

So they werent fanatical Christians? LOL. Make up your mind idiot.

I didn't realize you were confused.

 

[Disir]

Every year you tell the exact same lies.

And every year the Anti-Americans trash America. Thanks for playing.

Are you confused too? You sound like it.

 

[Disir]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

Give your hatred for America a rest on Thanksgiving. Teach your kids better...if you arent some barren wombed feminist harridan...which I suspect you are.

What hatred? I'm a descendant of William Bradford you fucking nitwit.

 

[DOTR]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

Give your hatred for America a rest on Thanksgiving. Teach your kids better...if you arent some barren wombed feminist harridan...which I suspect you are.

What hatred? I'm a descendant of William Bradford you fucking nitwit.

Nothing like a conceited America hater.

 

[DOTR]

""The failure of that experiment of communal service ... the taking away of private property, and the possession of it in community, by a commonwealth ... was found to breed much confusion and discontent; and retard much employment which would have been to the general benefit.... For the young men who were most able and fit for service objected to being forced to spend their time and strength in working for other men's wives and children, without any recompense.... The strong man or the resourceful man had no more share of food, clothes, etc., than the weak man who was not able to do a quarter the other could. This was thought injustice. The aged and graver men, who were ranked and equalized in labor, food, clothes, etc., with the humbler and younger ones, thought it some indignity and disrespect to them."

Bradford..beginning a long history of American distaste for socialism.

 

[Disir]

Why did we settle America?

"In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together in a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."

It's called the Divine Right of Kings and provided legitimacy.
‘The absolute right to rule’ – The Divine Right of Kings

Give your hatred for America a rest on Thanksgiving. Teach your kids better...if you arent some barren wombed feminist harridan...which I suspect you are.

What hatred? I'm a descendant of William Bradford you fucking nitwit.

Nothing like a conceited America hater.

Awe.........what happened there? History not happen they way you wanted to believe it did? Patents not equal to socialism? Agreement to seven years of work not the same? Destroyed everything you believed? Truth has a way of blowing up mental midgets such as yourself.

 

[Little-Acorn]

By the OP's logic, the Indians should have never helped the colonists, because helping the poor and needy just encourages them to stay poor and needy.

Yet another liberal who can't reply to what I said, so he makes up something I didn't say, attributes it to me, and tries to bash me for that instead.

Is there any part of liberal "argument" that doesn't involve heavy lying and misrepresentation?

No wonder they lost.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Bradford..beginning a long history of American distaste for socialism.

Bradford had to express his distaste for it.

All the people who REALLY had reason to dislike it, were dead of starvation, exposure etc.