That shining "god" Obama couldn't even with nearly a $1 trillion in shovel ready jobs do this!

That's hilarious considering Obama's middle-of-recession Stimulus cost ~500B (with dynamic effect) and Trump's tax-cuts-in-the-middle-of-full-employment will cost ~1 TRILLION.

You clearly love deficit fueled Trump stimulus, so you got no leg to stand on.
You are jumping to conclusions.

So...following your logic, deficit spending was okay under Big Ears, but not Donnie Tiny Hands. Really?

I find Trump's spending outrageous just like I did under your Messiah. Are you consistent?

No silly, it has nothing to do with personalities. It has to do with sound economics.

When you are in the middle of a disaster like Great Recession deficit funded stimulus is the appropriate response to help break the downward spiral and ease some of the pain.

The appropriate thing to do during good times with full employment however is to PAY DOWN DEFICITS and get fiscally stable. Which is exactly OPPOSITE of what Trump and Republicans did.
Yet all he did was bail out big corps, while doing nothing for the average citizen.

Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
 
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Surely you jest.

I’m totally serious . And don’t call me Shirley !

As you can see. Unemployment has been dropping steadily for years . Oh I forgot . Those were fake stats ! That are suddenly real now .
So is this Obama's economy or Trump's?

It’s a little of both .

Cons lie as if unemployment was rising before Trump came in.
I haven’t heard anyone claiming unemployment was raising when Barry left. Are you lying?

You don’t ? You don’t remember trump saying 100,000,000 out of work ?? You missed the 100 threads about it?
Trump is not a con. Is there anyone else you got?
 
You are jumping to conclusions.

So...following your logic, deficit spending was okay under Big Ears, but not Donnie Tiny Hands. Really?

I find Trump's spending outrageous just like I did under your Messiah. Are you consistent?

No silly, it has nothing to do with personalities. It has to do with sound economics.

When you are in the middle of a disaster like Great Recession deficit funded stimulus is the appropriate response to help break the downward spiral and ease some of the pain.

The appropriate thing to do during good times with full employment however is to PAY DOWN DEFICITS and get fiscally stable. Which is exactly OPPOSITE of what Trump and Republicans did.
Yet all he did was bail out big corps, while doing nothing for the average citizen.

Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.
 
A report Thursday from ADP and Moody’s Analytics cast an even brighter light on what is becoming one of the most important economic stories of 2018:
the difficulty employers are having in finding qualified employees to fill a record 6.7 million job openings.

  • Truck drivers are in perilously low supply,
  • Silicon Valley continues to struggle to fill vacancies, and
  • employers across the grid are coping with a skills mismatch
as the economy edges ever closer to full employment.

“Business’ number one problem is finding qualified workers. At the current pace of job growth, if sustained, this problem is set to get much worse,” Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, said in a statement. “These labor shortages will only intensify across all industries and company sizes.”
The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

Now WHY does a Trump presidency provide a business environment where THERE ARE MORE JOBS available than people to fill them?
Maybe because during our "deified God" presidency and I'm not making that up...read what a hardened
"professional journalist said about Obama...
Evan Thomas, Editor of NewsWeek...
"I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’

Despite the miserable results from the $48 billion spent on infrastructure in the $787 billion American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, President Obama’s recently-proposed American Jobs Act includes $50 billion for new infrastructure projects to be funded through the creation of a government-run infrastructure bank
The Shovel-Ready Jobs Swindle

And it was so evident that EVEN OBAMA said there never were "shovel ready jobs"!
"Remember ‘shovel-ready projects.' Those were construction projects in the 2009 stimulus bill that were supposed to get moving right away ... ‘Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected,' Obama said." (David Jackson, "Obama Jokes About 'Shovel-Ready Projects'," USA Today, 6/13/11)
Mitt Romney: Press Release - President Obama's Not-So-Shovel-Ready Jobs

MAYBE JUST MAYBE Trump would NEVER be so anti-business, anti-profit, anti-capitalist as this list of Obama
quotes show. NONE of which Trump WOULD ever ever say!View attachment 203053

Sadly many Americans have no knowledge of what you post. They have been brainwashed by the elite media to believe he truly was the Messiah.

Many of these same Americans think Trump a Nazi, child abuser, white supremacist, racist, sexist, homophobic....etc.....................the power of the elite media owned by a handful of billionaires, is evident.

We live is CRAZY times.

Agree and that's why though the major effort by most of us like you that recognize the extreme biased MSM has to for want of a better "educate" diminishing number
of people that believe the MSM as this poll shows!

With 2,014 adults surveyed, only 6% expressed “a lot of confidence” in the press.
Only 6% Trust Media, But It Should Be Less | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD
 
No silly, it has nothing to do with personalities. It has to do with sound economics.

When you are in the middle of a disaster like Great Recession deficit funded stimulus is the appropriate response to help break the downward spiral and ease some of the pain.

The appropriate thing to do during good times with full employment however is to PAY DOWN DEFICITS and get fiscally stable. Which is exactly OPPOSITE of what Trump and Republicans did.
Yet all he did was bail out big corps, while doing nothing for the average citizen.

Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
TARPpayback070118.png
 
Yet all he did was bail out big corps, while doing nothing for the average citizen.

Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080
Obama is evil
 
Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080
Obama is evil

It was not so much as "evil" as the MSM presented a very misleading picture.
As I've written here before the MSM gathered around Iowans in 2008 for their caucuses which in many case literally required the caucus voter to STAND for their candidate.
Now imagine your an Iowan use to the sobriquets of "hick farmer" "uneducated racist" and then having the MSM reporters mike/notepad in hand and you stood for someone
other than Obama... "Hey are you not standing for Obama because he is black"..."maybe you don't like people of color?" these kind of questions put to people who didn't stand for Obama!
So Obama who once told an audience ....
And did I mention he's black?"
http://www.reuters.com/.../us-usa-politics-obama-race...
 
Trump has turned things around fast nobody can deny that.....one thing I hope they work on is bringing back the 40 hour work week. That would be a huge positive for the American worker.

What economic indicators have been “turned around” since the election of Trump?


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Yet all he did was bail out big corps, while doing nothing for the average citizen.

Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080
Means nothing. My statement still stands. Obama did nothing to help hurting Americans, but he sure helped big corporations
 
Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080
Means nothing. My statement still stands. Obama did nothing to help hurting Americans, but he sure helped big corporations

What were you wanting the government to do for you?


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Trump has turned things around fast nobody can deny that.....one thing I hope they work on is bringing back the 40 hour work week. That would be a huge positive for the American worker.

What economic indicators have been “turned around” since the election of Trump?


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This never happened under Obama... NEVER!
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them
There are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them.
It’s the first time that has happened since the government began tracking job openings in 2000.

There were a record 6.7 million job openings in April, the Labor Department reported Tuesday. That was an increase from an upwardly revised 6.63 million in March.
The revised data show that job openings outstripped total unemployed workers in March for the first time, and the trend continued in April.
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them



 
No silly, it has nothing to do with personalities. It has to do with sound economics.

When you are in the middle of a disaster like Great Recession deficit funded stimulus is the appropriate response to help break the downward spiral and ease some of the pain.

The appropriate thing to do during good times with full employment however is to PAY DOWN DEFICITS and get fiscally stable. Which is exactly OPPOSITE of what Trump and Republicans did.
Yet all he did was bail out big corps, while doing nothing for the average citizen.

Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Look buddy, you got not the slightest clue what you are talking about. Obama and Stimulus didn't cause people to lose their homes, Great Recession did.

Bush signed, Obama administered TARP helped stabilize our financial system and "big banks" repaid it back to government with interest.

Obama's expansionary economic policies certainly helped us climb out of the ditch and get where we are today. I know it's going to be a shock for you but that didn't happen overnight when Trump got into office - it took years and years of consistent growth.
 
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Bullshit. Straight up, clueless bullshit.

many components of stimulus directly and indirectly benefited the average citizen. Starting with "making work pay" tax credits.

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080
Means nothing. My statement still stands. Obama did nothing to help hurting Americans, but he sure helped big corporations

No dummy, it means EVERYTHING, because it makes your insinuation that banks somehow profited off of TARP a completely false statement.

I showed you DIRECT STIMULUS TRANSFERS to people's pockets in the form of tax credits and STILL you post stupid fucking nonsense claims that "Obama did nothing to help Americans".

You look like a moron when you deny simple facts.
 
Trump has turned things around fast nobody can deny that.....one thing I hope they work on is bringing back the 40 hour work week. That would be a huge positive for the American worker.

What economic indicators have been “turned around” since the election of Trump?


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This never happened under Obama... NEVER!
There now are more job openings in the U.S. than unemployed workers to fill them


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ANY QUESTIONS?
 
Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .
Funny how obamas policies never worked until he left office. As a business guy, obama leaving office was the best thing he did for us

See the unemployment graph that’s been posted .

Did trump go back in time and save employment years before he ran?
Worst recession recovery since the great depression

Also worst recession since Great Depression. You think it's possible that bigger recessions take longer to recover from or no?
 
Really? Enlighten me please.

...i just did!

Making Work Pay tax credit - Wikipedia

In years 2009 and 2010 Making Work Pay provided $400 annual credit for individuals or $800 for married taxpayers...making between $8,100 per year and $190,000 per year.

That's just ONE of many parts of Stimulus.
Peanuts in comparison.

Millions of Americans lost their homes. Millions more lost much of their wealth from the stock market crash. This was the consequence of criminal behavior on the part of big banks. yet obama bailed them out and prosecuted no one.

Sorry but TARP was a GWB action and was totally paid back under Obama who counted it as revenue (including the profits!) and Obama still ran up the worst deficits than the 5 preceding Presidents!
View attachment 203080
Means nothing. My statement still stands. Obama did nothing to help hurting Americans, but he sure helped big corporations

No dummy, it means EVERYTHING, because it makes your insinuation that banks somehow profited off of TARP a completely false statement.

I showed you DIRECT STIMULUS TRANSFERS to people's pockets in the form of tax credits and STILL you post stupid fucking nonsense claims that "Obama did nothing to help Americans".

You look like a moron when you deny simple facts.

You didn't though show the results of
Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject
Nine studies of the DIRECT STIMULUS TRANSFERS
Out of the $787 billion stimulus bill, about $250 billion went in direct aid to state and local governments to prevent them from hurting the economy by cutting spending. Of that, $88 billion went to shore up Medicaid, and of that, $61.2 billion had been spent by the end of June 2010

Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject

Now we all can get lost in the words on these 9 very complex studies i.e. "endogeneity" issues, "spillovers"...all sorts of very minute but not simple to comprehend.
But to say as Antontoo said" I showed you Direct Stimulus transfers to people's pocket...hmmm that is very spurious at the minimum and broadly hyperbolic at the most!
Especially when 3 studies said it worked..using econometric techniques.. 3 studies worked if you modeled the study, 1 study worked a little and 2 that said it didn't work.
So for Antontoo to make the broad statement it was a positive effort... hmmm...
$787 billion divided by 150 million households would have been $5,246 extra dollars per household or $5,621 if the 10 million "millionaire" households didn't get...after all they are the filthy rich and why should they get it... a lot simpler method of distribution wouldn't you say?
 
Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .
Funny how obamas policies never worked until he left office. As a business guy, obama leaving office was the best thing he did for us

See the unemployment graph that’s been posted .

Did trump go back in time and save employment years before he ran?
Worst recession recovery since the great depression

Also worst recession since Great Depression. You think it's possible that bigger recessions take longer to recover from or no?

Worst recession????

Hmmm... Seems to me I remember Carter's contribution... Here are the facts..
And believe me THAT was especially with the gas lines... Nothing even supposedly the "greatest recession" matched those days!
MiseryIndex070518.png
 
Obama got us out of a recession. Trump is riding his wave .
Funny how obamas policies never worked until he left office. As a business guy, obama leaving office was the best thing he did for us

See the unemployment graph that’s been posted .

Did trump go back in time and save employment years before he ran?
Worst recession recovery since the great depression

Also worst recession since Great Depression. You think it's possible that bigger recessions take longer to recover from or no?
Not eight years, no. Funny how we recovered just when obama left
 

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