The abortion of Down's syndrome babies is absolute moral depravity

[ding]

Do you think you have life long care, Disir? Do you think you are entitled to it? If so, why?

Just so we are clear, your position is that the group that you think you are advocating for is not entitled to life long care.

My position is that that guarantee has nothing to do with the decision to terminate the pregnancy of a downs baby, Disir. It's a rationalization to make one feel better about doing a deplorable and selfish act.

It has everything to do with it. Refusing to recognize the fallout is a deplorable and selfish act.

It's called life. There are no guarantees in life.

Since you are incapable of identifying the problems and, clearly, can't provide solutions then you don't get to make the decisions.

I don't see a problem. You have a baby and you raise it. It kind of comes with the job description.

 

[Disir]

This is the US, if you have people that have Down Syndrom, people with cognitive disabilities and the mentally ill living on the streets then you don't have any standards. Solve the problem.

We have all kinds of people living on the streets, Disir, right? Shouldn't we include them too?

How about if we round them all up an exterminate them? Would that solve the problem and make you feel better that they are not living on the streets? My point here is that these people would rather live on the streets than be dead, Disir. If that were not the case, they would kill themselves.

But putting that aside, women who wait to have children should not be surprised that they end up with a Downs baby. We call that the consequences of their decision.

Solve the problem, Ding. You are simply trying to flip the script.

There is no solution that will satisfy you because you are looking for a justification to end a human life. If I say here's a solution you will say you need a better solution. If I say here is a better solution you will say it isn't good enough. You aren't looking for a solution. You are looking for a rationalization.

If you plan to have a baby then you plan to take care of the baby. It is no different for a downs baby. So is your problem that you only want to care for your baby for 18 years and then be done with it? God forbid they have some disease or accident and you are burdened beyond 18 years, right?

Try again. You failed to provide a solution.

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

 

[Disir]

Just so we are clear, your position is that the group that you think you are advocating for is not entitled to life long care.

My position is that that guarantee has nothing to do with the decision to terminate the pregnancy of a downs baby, Disir. It's a rationalization to make one feel better about doing a deplorable and selfish act.

It has everything to do with it. Refusing to recognize the fallout is a deplorable and selfish act.

It's called life. There are no guarantees in life.

Since you are incapable of identifying the problems and, clearly, can't provide solutions then you don't get to make the decisions.

I don't see a problem. You have a baby and you raise it. It kind of comes with the job description.

You need to go back to the beginning of the conversation and read what I actually wrote.

 

[ding]

We have all kinds of people living on the streets, Disir, right? Shouldn't we include them too?

How about if we round them all up an exterminate them? Would that solve the problem and make you feel better that they are not living on the streets? My point here is that these people would rather live on the streets than be dead, Disir. If that were not the case, they would kill themselves.

But putting that aside, women who wait to have children should not be surprised that they end up with a Downs baby. We call that the consequences of their decision.

Solve the problem, Ding. You are simply trying to flip the script.

There is no solution that will satisfy you because you are looking for a justification to end a human life. If I say here's a solution you will say you need a better solution. If I say here is a better solution you will say it isn't good enough. You aren't looking for a solution. You are looking for a rationalization.

If you plan to have a baby then you plan to take care of the baby. It is no different for a downs baby. So is your problem that you only want to care for your baby for 18 years and then be done with it? God forbid they have some disease or accident and you are burdened beyond 18 years, right?

Try again. You failed to provide a solution.

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

 

[ding]

My position is that that guarantee has nothing to do with the decision to terminate the pregnancy of a downs baby, Disir. It's a rationalization to make one feel better about doing a deplorable and selfish act.

It has everything to do with it. Refusing to recognize the fallout is a deplorable and selfish act.

It's called life. There are no guarantees in life.

Since you are incapable of identifying the problems and, clearly, can't provide solutions then you don't get to make the decisions.

I don't see a problem. You have a baby and you raise it. It kind of comes with the job description.

You need to go back to the beginning of the conversation and read what I actually wrote.

I did and it is no justification for ending their life. Especially when it is being done for selfish reasons by people who can afford to take care of them.

 

[Slyhunter]

Negative eugenics, world wide, of a scale that would have given Hitler and his doktors a shiver up their legs.

"What an age to live in. Get pregnant; see if the baby meets your specifications. If not, just abort and try again."
No decent parent rejects a child’s love because the child is imperfect. Nobody casts aside an eight-year-old because she has bad grades or an attitude problem. So why would we think it is acceptable to destroy the life of a child, the result of a wanted pregnancy, because the child will be disabled? As the progressives put it, isn’t this the most horrible example of ableist privilege?

"If we are going down the road of selective abortion for admirable traits, one has to wonder if oneself would make the cut.
"After all, having a child isn’t really about the child. It’s about you and your hopes and dreams, your demand to live your best life."

Aborting Down Syndrome Babies Is An Absolute Moral Depravity

Aborting fetuses because they'll get in the way of your bar hoping, partying, fucking way is moral depravity. If your going to do that might as well abort for more substantial reasons like fetus has a genetic defect like Downs syndrome or the gay gene. Lets help Mother Nature evolve us into stronger better creatures by culling the weak and supporting the strong.

 

[Slyhunter]

"...the selective abortion of kids with Down Syndrome sends a clear and destructive message to kids and adults with Down Syndrome. That message is, “We are better off without you.” We are literally telling human beings that they should not exist, that they are too much of a burden on parents and society. That idea is, in a word, evil.

"Evil doesn’t come with a dark cape and a menacing cackle, it comes with a quiet acquiescence to our powerlessness to do anything but serve our own pleasure and desire."

Aborting Down Syndrome Babies Is An Absolute Moral Depravity

Society is better off without those who'll never amount to anything in society and will be a constant negative on resources with no benefits arising from their existence whatsoever.

 

[ding]

Negative eugenics, world wide, of a scale that would have given Hitler and his doktors a shiver up their legs.

"What an age to live in. Get pregnant; see if the baby meets your specifications. If not, just abort and try again."
No decent parent rejects a child’s love because the child is imperfect. Nobody casts aside an eight-year-old because she has bad grades or an attitude problem. So why would we think it is acceptable to destroy the life of a child, the result of a wanted pregnancy, because the child will be disabled? As the progressives put it, isn’t this the most horrible example of ableist privilege?

"If we are going down the road of selective abortion for admirable traits, one has to wonder if oneself would make the cut.
"After all, having a child isn’t really about the child. It’s about you and your hopes and dreams, your demand to live your best life."

Aborting Down Syndrome Babies Is An Absolute Moral Depravity

Aborting fetuses because they'll get in the way of your bar hoping, partying, fucking way is moral depravity. If your going to do that might as well abort for more substantial reasons like fetus has a genetic defect like Downs syndrome or the gay gene. Lets help Mother Nature evolve us into stronger better creatures by culling the weak and supporting the strong.

That is exactly the premise of eugenics. Not exactly the company I like to keep if you know what I mean. That's a very slippery slope and dangerous as well.

 

[deanrd]

So the left provided them ssi and rental and heating subsidies and foodstamps, made it illegal to lock up fruitcakes before they bred or killed anybody...and now we have this huge growing population of organically retarded, scizophrenic freaks breeding and shooting up schools.

They're called democrats.

Yet democrooks are pretty much the exclusive users of planned unparenthood.

I can't see the logic of thwarting them.


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[Disir]

Solve the problem, Ding. You are simply trying to flip the script.

There is no solution that will satisfy you because you are looking for a justification to end a human life. If I say here's a solution you will say you need a better solution. If I say here is a better solution you will say it isn't good enough. You aren't looking for a solution. You are looking for a rationalization.

If you plan to have a baby then you plan to take care of the baby. It is no different for a downs baby. So is your problem that you only want to care for your baby for 18 years and then be done with it? God forbid they have some disease or accident and you are burdened beyond 18 years, right?

Try again. You failed to provide a solution.

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

 

[Slyhunter]

The solution is not to have them to begin with.

So the solution is to murder them earlier.

Same solution, different descriptions.

And yet, silence when they are adults indicating acquiescence w/ indirect murder via exposure to the elements etc.

You are correct, the abortion of those with Down’s syndrome will prevent all hardships that these people may have if they are allowed to live.

Perhaps all fetuses that “all not good enough” should be aborted. It could lead to a utopia if all the undesirables don’t exist.

Abort the Fags.

 

[Disir]

The solution is not to have them to begin with.

So the solution is to murder them earlier.

Same solution, different descriptions.

And yet, silence when they are adults indicating acquiescence w/ indirect murder via exposure to the elements etc.

You are correct, the abortion of those with Down’s syndrome will prevent all hardships that these people may have if they are allowed to live.

Perhaps all fetuses that “all not good enough” should be aborted. It could lead to a utopia if all the undesirables don’t exist.

Abort the Fags.

Welcome to ignore.

 

[ding]

There is no solution that will satisfy you because you are looking for a justification to end a human life. If I say here's a solution you will say you need a better solution. If I say here is a better solution you will say it isn't good enough. You aren't looking for a solution. You are looking for a rationalization.

If you plan to have a baby then you plan to take care of the baby. It is no different for a downs baby. So is your problem that you only want to care for your baby for 18 years and then be done with it? God forbid they have some disease or accident and you are burdened beyond 18 years, right?

Try again. You failed to provide a solution.

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

 

[Disir]

Try again. You failed to provide a solution.

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

Provide the solution.

 

[Slyhunter]

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

Provide the solution.

The solution is to eradicate the undesirables genetic freaks like Downs or the Gay gene can solve a lot of problems by aborting them before they are born.

Ignore the truth and you are the only one who is blind to it.

 

[ding]

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

Provide the solution.

The solution is to eradicate the undesirables genetic freaks like Downs or the Gay gene can solve a lot of problems by aborting them before they are born.

Ignore the truth and you are the only one who is blind to it.

I see. Who gets to decide? What if I decide you are one of the ones who should be eradicated because you aren't good enough?

 

[ding]

I'm afraid you will just have to abort your downs baby, Disir. There are no guarantees in life. You don't have one for yourself. Maybe you should off yourself.

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

Provide the solution.

I did. Take your chances and don't rationalize that you are doing right when you are doing wrong.

 

[Disir]

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

Provide the solution.

I did. Take your chances and don't rationalize that you are doing right when you are doing wrong.

That isn't a solution. That is a way for you to attempt to feel morally superior for doing nothing.

 

[Slyhunter]

As opposed to when all else fails abort?

Ah, you are caught between abortion and socialism. Tough spot for you to be in.

Nope. I'm for neither. You on the other hand are caught between them. You want communism because you think it provides a guarantee. The only guarantee that provides is death, misery and suffering.

Provide the solution.

The solution is to eradicate the undesirables genetic freaks like Downs or the Gay gene can solve a lot of problems by aborting them before they are born.

Ignore the truth and you are the only one who is blind to it.

I see. Who gets to decide? What if I decide you are one of the ones who should be eradicated because you aren't good enough?

The parents get to decide on their own fetus.

 

[there4eyeM]

Just let the mother decide. Just let her take the moral responsibility. Just mind your own business.