LOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.
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The anti-semite squad
- Thread starter P@triot
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I am done with his bullshit and his absolutes. I ll mimic him. Everyone knows that Rigby5 is an idiot. Everyone. Every single person in the world. He uses the word all the time and has no idea what it means.^^^^^ rigie has out rigied himself...... BUT it is so good to know thatFashionable or factual? LOLPersonally, I believe the disgusting idiot Palestinians need to be exterminated from the face of the Earth. But that's just meNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.You sure are a hater.
So then to you might makes right, regardless of concepts like justice, ancestral ownership, etc.?
How have the Palestinians ever harmed anyone?
They were on the side of the Allies in WWI, under the promise of independence if they helped and won.
They kept their side of the bargain, but we did not keep our side.
We never allowed them to be free as we were supposed to.
Don't you Mulims pretending you aren't Muslim ever tire of your taqiyya?
The "Palestinian" people had not been invented yet, and the Mufti of Jerusalem was a Nazi collaborator.
Its become fashionable lately to blame the Mufti and the Palestinians for the Holocaust in Europe. Do you think it justifies what the European refugees have done?
Again, every mostly Muslim country in the world is a humanitarian nightmare for gays and women. You cannot dispute that so you constantly dodge this inconvenient fact. We don’t want nor need another Islamist country.
The whole point of Islam was to give women more rights than they had under the previous Judaism.
Under Judaism, women were considered to not have a soul, could not vote, divorce, inherit, own property, testify, etc.
Mohammad married a wealthy widow, and to show his gratitude, he tried to modify Judaism to be better for women.
Islam is nearly identical to Judaism except that women are considered to have a soul, could vote, divorce, inherit, own property, testify, etc.
The only problem with Islamic countries is that they have such a long history of Judaism that they are still practicing Judaism instead of Islam.
For example stoning adulterers and killing gays.
That is Judaism, not Islam.
The Quran does not allow for either of these capital punishments.
MECCA was once a jewish town (like Medina) The arabs never PAID US
for it. We have a RIGHT ----under international law to GET IT BACK .....along
with Baghdad and Alexandria
Rigby5
Diamond Member
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Rigby5
Diamond Member
So the problem with Islam is Judaism. Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound. So ISIS is based on Judaism? Quran certainly does as it all depends on how you interpret it. Why don’t you go to the KSA and tell the people that their beliefs are based on Judaism and see how quickly they chop your stupid head off. You’re one deranged mother fucker.Fashionable or factual? LOLPersonally, I believe the disgusting idiot Palestinians need to be exterminated from the face of the Earth. But that's just meNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.You sure are a hater.
So then to you might makes right, regardless of concepts like justice, ancestral ownership, etc.?
How have the Palestinians ever harmed anyone?
They were on the side of the Allies in WWI, under the promise of independence if they helped and won.
They kept their side of the bargain, but we did not keep our side.
We never allowed them to be free as we were supposed to.
Don't you Mulims pretending you aren't Muslim ever tire of your taqiyya?
The "Palestinian" people had not been invented yet, and the Mufti of Jerusalem was a Nazi collaborator.
Its become fashionable lately to blame the Mufti and the Palestinians for the Holocaust in Europe. Do you think it justifies what the European refugees have done?
Again, every mostly Muslim country in the world is a humanitarian nightmare for gays and women. You cannot dispute that so you constantly dodge this inconvenient fact. We don’t want nor need another Islamist country.
The whole point of Islam was to give women more rights than they had under the previous Judaism.
Under Judaism, women were considered to not have a soul, could not vote, divorce, inherit, own property, testify, etc.
Mohammad married a wealthy widow, and to show his gratitude, he tried to modify Judaism to be better for women.
Islam is nearly identical to Judaism except that women are considered to have a soul, could vote, divorce, inherit, own property, testify, etc.
The only problem with Islamic countries is that they have such a long history of Judaism that they are still practicing Judaism instead of Islam.
For example stoning adulterers and killing gays.
That is Judaism, not Islam.
The Quran does not allow for either of these capital punishments.
Yes, ISIS is a fake organization of atheists pretending to be Islamic.
And all Mideast customs come from the Old Testament, which is Judaic.
I know of no diseases spread by the fleas that inhabit dogs. Rat fleas are responsibleNo one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
for bubonic plague-----no shortage of rats in muslim communities. Arjuna attained
NIRVANA along with his dog
Rigby5
Diamond Member
LOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.No one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
Palestinians have never moved.
They are the oldest known civilizations in the entire world.
Rigby5
Diamond Member
I know of no diseases spread by the fleas that inhabit dogs. Rat fleas are responsibleNo one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
for bubonic plague-----no shortage of rats in muslim communities. Arjuna attained
NIRVANA along with his dog
Dogs and rodents support the same types of fleas.
It is only felines that repel many types of fleas.
There are also ticks, other parasites.
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Now it’s in your opinion but usually you say “everyone knows”. Islam was based on conquest and Muhammad was a warlord. That is indisputable. Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice?
You should tell them that and see what happens. They would say they are the true followers of Islam and the rest are heretics. You see how fucked up they are and you are now? Infidel!So the problem with Islam is Judaism. Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound. So ISIS is based on Judaism? Quran certainly does as it all depends on how you interpret it. Why don’t you go to the KSA and tell the people that their beliefs are based on Judaism and see how quickly they chop your stupid head off. You’re one deranged mother fucker.Fashionable or factual? LOLPersonally, I believe the disgusting idiot Palestinians need to be exterminated from the face of the Earth. But that's just meNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.You sure are a hater.
So then to you might makes right, regardless of concepts like justice, ancestral ownership, etc.?
How have the Palestinians ever harmed anyone?
They were on the side of the Allies in WWI, under the promise of independence if they helped and won.
They kept their side of the bargain, but we did not keep our side.
We never allowed them to be free as we were supposed to.
Don't you Mulims pretending you aren't Muslim ever tire of your taqiyya?
The "Palestinian" people had not been invented yet, and the Mufti of Jerusalem was a Nazi collaborator.
Its become fashionable lately to blame the Mufti and the Palestinians for the Holocaust in Europe. Do you think it justifies what the European refugees have done?
Again, every mostly Muslim country in the world is a humanitarian nightmare for gays and women. You cannot dispute that so you constantly dodge this inconvenient fact. We don’t want nor need another Islamist country.
The whole point of Islam was to give women more rights than they had under the previous Judaism.
Under Judaism, women were considered to not have a soul, could not vote, divorce, inherit, own property, testify, etc.
Mohammad married a wealthy widow, and to show his gratitude, he tried to modify Judaism to be better for women.
Islam is nearly identical to Judaism except that women are considered to have a soul, could vote, divorce, inherit, own property, testify, etc.
The only problem with Islamic countries is that they have such a long history of Judaism that they are still practicing Judaism instead of Islam.
For example stoning adulterers and killing gays.
That is Judaism, not Islam.
The Quran does not allow for either of these capital punishments.
Yes, ISIS is a fake organization of atheists pretending to be Islamic.
And all Mideast customs come from the Old Testament, which is Judaic.
There is no such thing as a Palestinian. Find one mention of that word before 1967 and post it here!LOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.No one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
Palestinians have never moved.
They are the oldest known civilizations in the entire world.
Yet dogs are beloved. Everyone knows that dogs are men’s best friend. You hate dogs but love terrorists. LOLI know of no diseases spread by the fleas that inhabit dogs. Rat fleas are responsibleNo one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
for bubonic plague-----no shortage of rats in muslim communities. Arjuna attained
NIRVANA along with his dog
Dogs and rodents support the same types of fleas.
It is only felines that repel many types of fleas.
There are also ticks, other parasites.
Idiot
"same types" is not the issue----corona virus is a TYPE of flu virus---but not all FLUsI know of no diseases spread by the fleas that inhabit dogs. Rat fleas are responsibleNo one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
for bubonic plague-----no shortage of rats in muslim communities. Arjuna attained
NIRVANA along with his dog
Dogs and rodents support the same types of fleas.
It is only felines that repel many types of fleas.
There are also ticks, other parasites.
are equal I have never heard of a DOG TICK creating Lyme disease. Not all ticks
are equal. cats transmit TOXOPLAMOSIS ----very dangers to fetus in utero
Sorry AZOG-----lots of PALESTINIAN before 1967----in fact it was in the EARLIER 1960s thatThere is no such thing as a Palestinian. Find one mention of that word before 1967 and post it here!LOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.No one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
Palestinians have never moved.
They are the oldest known civilizations in the entire world.
ARAFART decided to call himself a palestinian. Before that ----all PALESTINIANS were jews
living in what the Romans began to call PALESTINA ---around 100 AD. My hubby was a
PALESTINIAN in the early 1940s -----Arafart was not. Ben Gurion was a PALESTINIAN
too. Even BEGIN was a PALESTINIAN......and still ARAFART was not. A personal anecdote.
I was walking in a broken down part of Manhattan and noticed faded painted hebrew lettering
on the brick wall of an abandoned building. Very long words. I tried to read it-----
phonetically------Hebrew words are generally short----like 3-5 letters. so this had to
be Yiddish, The words turned out to be PALESTINIAN RESTAURANT. The place had
actually been a zionist meeting hall from 1920
rigie did it AGAIN------way-to-go rigieLOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.No one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
Palestinians have never moved.
They are the oldest known civilizations in the entire world.
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Now it’s in your opinion but usually you say “everyone knows”. Islam was based on conquest and Muhammad was a warlord. That is indisputable. Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice?
Muhammed never left the Arabian Peninsula after the Call.. after hiis caravan days.. ... so he wasn't "conquering".
What does abortion rights have to do with this discussion?
How is morality subjective? The ten commandments is pretty clear. Muslims follow the same ones. .. and also the Golden Rule.
Sorry AZOG-----lots of PALESTINIAN before 1967----in fact it was in the EARLIER 1960s thatThere is no such thing as a Palestinian. Find one mention of that word before 1967 and post it here!LOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.No one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
Palestinians have never moved.
They are the oldest known civilizations in the entire world.
ARAFART decided to call himself a palestinian. Before that ----all PALESTINIANS were jews
living in what the Romans began to call PALESTINA ---around 100 AD. My hubby was a
PALESTINIAN in the early 1940s -----Arafart was not. Ben Gurion was a PALESTINIAN
too. Even BEGIN was a PALESTINIAN......and still ARAFART was not. A personal anecdote.
I was walking in a broken down part of Manhattan and noticed faded painted hebrew lettering
on the brick wall of an abandoned building. Very long words. I tried to read it-----
phonetically------Hebrew words are generally short----like 3-5 letters. so this had to
be Yiddish, The words turned out to be PALESTINIAN RESTAURANT. The place had
actually been a zionist meeting hall from 1920
Jews were a tiny minority in Syria-Palestine until the early 1930s. The majority of Palestinians were Muslim and Christians. See the Ottoman census of 1870 or read the travel jurnals of Ibn Battuta or Rabbi Benjamin Tudela.
Ben Gurion claimed the Arab Palestinians were descended from 1st century Jewish farmers.
By the birth of Christ most Jews lived outside of Palestine in Damascus, Persia, Rome, Elephantine Island, Alexandria, Aleppo and all around the Med Sea.
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Now it’s in your opinion but usually you say “everyone knows”. Islam was based on conquest and Muhammad was a warlord. That is indisputable. Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice?
Muhammed never left the Arabian Peninsula after the Call.. after hiis caravan days.. ... so he wasn't "conquering".
What does abortion rights have to do with this discussion?
How is morality subjective? The ten commandments is pretty clear. Muslims follow the same ones. .. and also the Golden Rule.
Every mostly Muslim country is a humanitarian disaster. You cannot dispute that. Women are treated worse than dogs and Muslims hate dogs. Gays are thrown from roof tops.
Muhammad: The Warrior Prophet
Muhammad, Islam's prophet, was also a truly great general. In one decade he fought 8 major battles, led 18 raids, and planned 38 more military operations.
www.historynet.com
No such thing as a Palestinian until 1967. You ugly liar. Link one post with the word “Palestinian” in it before 1967. LOLSorry AZOG-----lots of PALESTINIAN before 1967----in fact it was in the EARLIER 1960s thatThere is no such thing as a Palestinian. Find one mention of that word before 1967 and post it here!LOL. No such thing as a Palestinian and they don’t want to move because no one wants them. Not all dogs have fleas not all Islamist climates are hot. Nice try though. Dogs are smarter than you, that is undisputed.No one is confiscating anything. Another lie by Rigby5. All disputes go to land court for the justice system to opine on. Funny how the Arabs hate Israel but desperately want to live there. Why not go to Syria, Lebanon, Egypt or Jordan? Of yes because those countries treat “Palestinians” worse than dogs and we all know Islamists hate dogs. Any religion that hates dogs is by definition immoral. God loves dogs. He told me. Prove me wrong you fucking crazy asshole.Uh, no I wouldn’t. Every time we think you’ve reached the pinnacle of stupidity, you take it to a whole new level.You would do the same thing if people had stolen your home and murdered your relatives.
There isn’t an 18 - 45 year old terrorist (average age) who had their home stolen because the UN granted that land in 1948 (which is 73 years ago for those of you who can’t do math.The Palestinians are not going to other places and murdering or stealing, then are just trying to get their homes back and for people to stop abusing them.
None of these filthy animals were even alive when Israel was founded. Therefore, they couldn’t have had anything “stolen” from them.
Wrong.
The UN did not grant any land to anyone.
What the UN did was to decide what political body had jurisdiction only.
What Israel then did was to use that political body that was wrongly given jurisdiction, to murder land owners and steal their land.
And clearly you have not been following the news at all, because Israel has been constantly doing this.
It did not stop in 1948, but there are half a dozens traditional Arab homes that Israel is attempting to confiscate right now.
That is what all the fighting on the Temple Mount and all the rockets was about.
So then clearly you have not been paying any attention at all and know nothing about the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Palestinians don't want to move because they have beliefs about the value of land where the bones of the ancestors are buried.
Dogs have fleas that spread disease, so are a danger in a hot climate.
Palestinians have never moved.
They are the oldest known civilizations in the entire world.
ARAFART decided to call himself a palestinian. Before that ----all PALESTINIANS were jews
living in what the Romans began to call PALESTINA ---around 100 AD. My hubby was a
PALESTINIAN in the early 1940s -----Arafart was not. Ben Gurion was a PALESTINIAN
too. Even BEGIN was a PALESTINIAN......and still ARAFART was not. A personal anecdote.
I was walking in a broken down part of Manhattan and noticed faded painted hebrew lettering
on the brick wall of an abandoned building. Very long words. I tried to read it-----
phonetically------Hebrew words are generally short----like 3-5 letters. so this had to
be Yiddish, The words turned out to be PALESTINIAN RESTAURANT. The place had
actually been a zionist meeting hall from 1920
Jews were a tiny minority in Syria-Palestine until the early 1930s. The majority of Palestinians were Muslim and Christians. See the Ottoman census of 1870 or read the travel jurnals of Ibn Battuta or Rabbi Benjamin Tudela.
Ben Gurion claimed the Arab Palestinians were descended from 1st century Jewish farmers.
By the birth of Christ most Jews lived outside of Palestine in Damascus, Persia, Rome, Elephantine Island, Alexandria, Aleppo and all around the Med Sea.
And you keep dodging. Why is every mostly Muslim country a humanitarian disaster?
Kondor3
Cafeteria Centrist
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Now it’s in your opinion but usually you say “everyone knows”. Islam was based on conquest and Muhammad was a warlord. That is indisputable. Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice?
Muhammed never left the Arabian Peninsula after the Call.. after hiis caravan days.. ... so he wasn't "conquering".
What does abortion rights have to do with this discussion?
How is morality subjective? The ten commandments is pretty clear. Muslims follow the same ones. .. and also the Golden Rule.
Bull$hit...
Muhammed... P(eanut butter and jelly) B(e) U(pon) Him... was a Jim Jones type of hallucinatory televangelist in the pre-television age.
He got lucky and suckered a great many people into following him after inventing a collection of scripture largely plagiarized from Judaism and Christianity...
His is the last large-scale Warrior Religion remaining on the face of the planet... and therefore an ongoing threat to the peace of the region and the world...
He was a bloodthirsty self-excusing conqueror who shifted the blame to God for all of the blood he shed or that would later be shed in the name of Islam...
Worse yet... he promised his simple-minded followers that anyone who died in defense of Islam or Muslims got a free ticket to Paradise...
Muhammed wasn't a conqueror? You apparently haven't read much of his conquest of the Arabian peninsula or his slaughter of Jews and Christians when convenient.
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Now it’s in your opinion but usually you say “everyone knows”. Islam was based on conquest and Muhammad was a warlord. That is indisputable. Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice?
Muhammed never left the Arabian Peninsula after the Call.. after hiis caravan days.. ... so he wasn't "conquering".
What does abortion rights have to do with this discussion?
How is morality subjective? The ten commandments is pretty clear. Muslims follow the same ones. .. and also the Golden Rule.
funny you bring up the TEN COMMANDMENTS thing, surada. Try asking a muslim ---"what are the ten commandments"------find it amazing if you can recite them. As to the "GOLDEN RULE"--
it is true that what christians have called "the golden rule" is noted in the Koran but not
the fact that it came From Hillel and the talmud. Muhummad's SUCCESSORS ---even his most
immediate
The Holy Land has changed hands so many times that "indigenous" has very little meaning.Rubbish. They came. They saw. They conquered. The Jews are now the Masters of the old Romano-Turkic province of 'Palestine', not your Muzzie pals.Doesn't make any difference... they cannot co-exist with the new Masters of that land... vae victus... time for the Palestinians to face reality and relocate.To hell with the so-called Palestinians... fools, idiots, whiners and losers... time to shove 'em across the Jordan... for keeps...yes-----it seems ALL muslims are adolf lovers, even the non-arabs andNope... I don't hate anyone... but I believe that the idiot Palestinians need to be forcibly relocated to the East Bank of the Jordan forevermore.Yep.Democrats have a lot of Jewish in Congress, more than republicans who have 1 or 2.We expect her to represent the perspective of her constituency, not her own personal prejudices."But understand does it exist in the detriment of inequality for the Palestinian people? The detriment of not moving forward in a peaceful resolution," she continued. "We're never going to have peace, I truly believe, if separate but equal is the way they want to go.
I quite agree. She comes from a Palestinian family what the hell do you expect her to say, the Jews have a right to kill as many as the Palestinians as want and to steal all the land.
Is that it??
a practicing Jew and a Palestinian talking. He has the nerve to ask her those questions.
Of course, if the majority of her constituents are also anti-Semiters or anti-Israel scum, then they may be safely ridiculed and firmly refuted.
Lib-Prog-Dems can be every bit as obtuse and disingenuous in defense of their own as Rumpian scum - in ways both different AND similar.
Some understand the existential fight for Eretz Yisrael and support it and denounce filth like Omar.
Others, content to live in the Diaspora and shielded from EuroTrash and MuzzieScum by the Atlantic Ocean, betray and abandon their co-religionists.
Lib-Prog-Dems, foolishly trying to be All Things To All People and lacking the ball$ to take a stand, throw Israel under the bus, every chance they get.
Not all... mind you... but enough to create and sustain the stereotype.
You sure are a hater.
Hitler inspired?
EVEN including the Iranians who actually despise the arabs
She was calling for removal of all Palestiinians. So much for Judeo/Christian morals.
Have you ever been to Jordan or East Jerusalem or the West Bank? Christian and Muslim Palestinians are quite friendly and hospitable.
The world is tired of listening to Palestinian bull$hit and excuses... and the Israelis aren't going anywhere... one of 'em has to go... it will be the Palestinians.
Might as well get it over with sooner rather than later and spare the world their whining and more pointless bloodshed... leave... and live.
The European Zionists were refugees. Now they have been on the dole for 70 years.
Yes, but you seem to forget that is illegal to "Come, Saw, and Conqueror", a crime, immoral and unethical.
The Muslim Arabs are the indigenous natives and had the right to live there in peace.
The illegal European Jewish immigrants are in violation of the law originally, and have only compounded it with much greater violations of law, such as murder and home confiscations.
What you seem to forget is that the Romans and Turks were also criminals for their illegal invasion and conquest.
The Palestinians had earned independence through their assistance to the Allies in WWI, and are now required to have that independence upheld.
The Allies signed the treaties ensuring Palestinian independence.
They can't legally renege now.
Rather like having your living room in the middle of a four-lane high-speed highway...
To the Devil with the idiot Palestinians...
Not at all true.
The Canaanites were the first to prosper in the Levant we now call Palestine, and it still is largely inhabited by Canaanite Palestinians.
The Egyptians invaded a few times, but they did nothing to change the population or have much effect.
Same with the Hittites, Mitanni, Assyrians, Babylonians, Hebrew, Greeks, Romans, Parthians, etc.
The invaders did not stay or change the demographics significantly.
The people who are indigenous natives and did stay, are the Palestinians.
They are the Canaanites, Chaldeans. Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistines, Amorites, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
The Hebrew were not native, and did not stay.
The Israelis are attempting to implement a myth that was never true.
There likely was no King David, there is no Chosen People or Promised Land.
Rigby you weren’t there, you don’t know. Yes or no?
I do not have to have been there in order to know.
This is not prehistoric, and there are plenty of accounts written at the time that we now can read.
Just ask yourself if when Rome invaded Greece, if the demographics of Athens and Sparta suddenly became all Roman the Greeks are were killed or driven off?
Of course not.
The whole point of invasion is almost always just to add the economic strength and productivity to the empire.
That is always how imperialism works.
And historians can also tell by tracing culture, such as written language.
We know the Amorites were not killed off by the Hebrew invasion because we know the Hebrew did not have a written script and instead use Aramaic.
We know the Hebrew did not rule long because they were beaten by the Babylonians, then the Assyrians, and later by the Romans.
I also know the Hebrew were not the Chosen People and the Land of Canaan was not the Promised Land because that would be immoral.
To place one people over others would be immoral, and to take occupied land and give it to others would be immoral.
And if God is that immoral, I would prefer to believe God then did not exist.
Morality is subjective. I consider Your posts to be immoral. Why would that make me wrong? It would not. God is also based on faith not fact. Pretty convenient.
Human morality is not totally subjective.
Humans are not just social animals by conditioning after birth, but have inherent instincts that make them social.
Its like any primate, such as Meerkats, that survive through collective social instincts, like empathy.
That is why all but a few psychotic feel it is wrong to steal, murder, rape, etc., and that is why most people do not fool a lie detector test.
God is faith based, but the values we have built in would have to reflect the values of God, if we were created by God.
So an anti social God creating humans to be social, would be a contradiction.
So which religion is “moral”? Islam and Christianity blast gays and sex before marriage. So both are immoral then. Are Protestants or Catholics moral? Are Shia or Sunni moral? Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice? Which is more moral. Humans are social but not all humans hence we have introverts and extroverts. Hyenas travel in packs too and steal food and hunt cute little animals. Are they moral?
Is boxing moral? Is football moral? People die participating in those events. Is allowing transgender women to compete vs biological women in the Olympics moral? Pretty sure ancient Greeks would disagree. Yet me questioning this is immortal to many.
Morality is subjective. Next…
All religions tend to not be moral.
That is because religions are not according to our inherent instincts, but instead are attempts by the powerful elite to control and change what we think is moral or not, even when in conflict with our inherent instincts.
If religion was moral, then we would not need it since we already would do as we know is moral.
Religion is to get you to do what is immoral.
They morality of all animals differ.
It depends on evolution.
Transgender competing in sports is immoral in my opinion.
Morality is not subjective within the human species, just confusing.
Now it’s in your opinion but usually you say “everyone knows”. Islam was based on conquest and Muhammad was a warlord. That is indisputable. Morality is 100% subjective. Are you pro life or pro choice?
Muhammed never left the Arabian Peninsula after the Call.. after hiis caravan days.. ... so he wasn't "conquering".
What does abortion rights have to do with this discussion?
How is morality subjective? The ten commandments is pretty clear. Muslims follow the same ones. .. and also the Golden Rule.
war lord in ARABIA------the fashionable thing at that time for arabs was TRIBAL WARFARE.
In general ---in my experience----muslims do not know the TEN COMMANDMENTS. What
surada calls the Golden rule was authored by the Talmudist HILLEL but is attributed to
christians by muslims and is a SUBJECT OF EXTREME SCORN
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