The Big Fucking Lie That Everyone Is Repeating This Week

[Crepitus]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

No...it isn't........social distancing didn't have time to effect the change in numbers....they are lying to you.

‘Why Have We Shut Down The Country?’ Ex-New York Times Reporter Challenges The Dire Coronavirus Models

Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who worked for “the paper of record” from 1999 to 2010, has been doing his own analysis of the ever-changing models and offered some thoughts in a Fox News interview.
----

Berenson recently focused his attention on the IMHE model.

“Aside from New York, nationally there’s been no health system crisis. In fact, to be truly correct, there has been a health system crisis, but the crisis is that the hospitals are empty,” he said on Fox. “This is true in Florida where the lockdown was late, this is true in southern California where the lockdown was early, it’s true in Oklahoma where there is no statewide lockdown. There doesn’t seem to be any correlation between the lockdown and whether or not the epidemic has spread wide and fast.”
----

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

And he said the mainstream media are, in part, to blame.

“Look, I get why people were so scared three or four weeks ago. I was too. But now – for the media to ignore the real demographics and scare people with outlier cases – to ignore the mostly empty hospitals all over the country – to pretend that the models weren’t wrong … and to refuse to ask really hard questions about what that means about them and the efficacy or lack thereof of the lockdowns – to refuse to ask for hard metrics we will use to reopen the country … it doesn’t feel like panic is driving this anymore. It feels like people just won’t admit what’s happening,” he wrote on Twitter.

Berenson also pointed out that COVID-19 deaths are on pace to come in even with the deaths attributed to influenza in 2017.

“Nobody says COVID-19 is not real, that it can’t tax hospitals or kill people, esp. if they are over 75 or have comorbidities. But right now the best CURRENT projection is for 61,000 US deaths. That was the 2017 flu season. Why have we shut the country?” he wrote.
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The Green New Nose Under the Tent

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.
=

The Pandemic: Where We Stand Now

Crudely speaking, if we assume that the U.S. is around 50% of the way through the COVID-19 epidemic, we might expect something like 33,000 fatalities, equal to an average seasonal flu year. An inevitable second round of infections after our governments finally let people go back to work, and out in public, may raise that number, but no one I know of has tried to guess to what extent. Still, any way you look at it, it is hard to see how COVID-19 deaths will exceed the flu fatalities we experienced two years ago. And that was barely a news story.

The projections you ignorant twit.

Damn you people are stupid.

 

[2aguy]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

What too many people just do not understand? The Chinese Virus works for the left wing and the democrat party....the destruction to the economy works for them........that is why they are more than happy to keep the economy shut down for the long into the future........they want Trump to lose in November, the Chinese virus helps with that.......they think the United States is the root of evil in the world, so destroying the economy allows the other countries a chance to beat us....the Chinese virus helps with that.....they want to implement socialism in this country...the Chinese Virus helps with that.....

Giving control over how we come out of this to the people who prosper with the Chinese Virus being successful...is not smart policy.......it is the same as giving the people who think the world is over populated control over the healthcare system.....

 

[Zander]

Trump acted quickly and appropriately and at all time under guidance and consultation with the so-called "experts" at the CDC (who have been wrong about this entire fiasco since day 1). He was condemned by LWNJ's and their sockpuppet media lackeys every step of the way no matter what he did or didn't do. They're sick people.

The Covfefe-16 pandemic continues, unabated.

 

[2aguy]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

No...it isn't........social distancing didn't have time to effect the change in numbers....they are lying to you.

‘Why Have We Shut Down The Country?’ Ex-New York Times Reporter Challenges The Dire Coronavirus Models

Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who worked for “the paper of record” from 1999 to 2010, has been doing his own analysis of the ever-changing models and offered some thoughts in a Fox News interview.
----

Berenson recently focused his attention on the IMHE model.

“Aside from New York, nationally there’s been no health system crisis. In fact, to be truly correct, there has been a health system crisis, but the crisis is that the hospitals are empty,” he said on Fox. “This is true in Florida where the lockdown was late, this is true in southern California where the lockdown was early, it’s true in Oklahoma where there is no statewide lockdown. There doesn’t seem to be any correlation between the lockdown and whether or not the epidemic has spread wide and fast.”
----

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

And he said the mainstream media are, in part, to blame.

“Look, I get why people were so scared three or four weeks ago. I was too. But now – for the media to ignore the real demographics and scare people with outlier cases – to ignore the mostly empty hospitals all over the country – to pretend that the models weren’t wrong … and to refuse to ask really hard questions about what that means about them and the efficacy or lack thereof of the lockdowns – to refuse to ask for hard metrics we will use to reopen the country … it doesn’t feel like panic is driving this anymore. It feels like people just won’t admit what’s happening,” he wrote on Twitter.

Berenson also pointed out that COVID-19 deaths are on pace to come in even with the deaths attributed to influenza in 2017.

“Nobody says COVID-19 is not real, that it can’t tax hospitals or kill people, esp. if they are over 75 or have comorbidities. But right now the best CURRENT projection is for 61,000 US deaths. That was the 2017 flu season. Why have we shut the country?” he wrote.
====

The Green New Nose Under the Tent

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.
=

The Pandemic: Where We Stand Now

Crudely speaking, if we assume that the U.S. is around 50% of the way through the COVID-19 epidemic, we might expect something like 33,000 fatalities, equal to an average seasonal flu year. An inevitable second round of infections after our governments finally let people go back to work, and out in public, may raise that number, but no one I know of has tried to guess to what extent. Still, any way you look at it, it is hard to see how COVID-19 deaths will exceed the flu fatalities we experienced two years ago. And that was barely a news story.

The projections you ignorant twit.

Damn you people are stupid.

Hey....shitstain..........the Chinese Virus has a survival rate of over 98%........and the social distancing didn't have time to effect anything...you moron...

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

 

[alang1216]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

No...it isn't........social distancing didn't have time to effect the change in numbers....they are lying to you.

‘Why Have We Shut Down The Country?’ Ex-New York Times Reporter Challenges The Dire Coronavirus Models

Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who worked for “the paper of record” from 1999 to 2010, has been doing his own analysis of the ever-changing models and offered some thoughts in a Fox News interview.
----

Berenson recently focused his attention on the IMHE model.

“Aside from New York, nationally there’s been no health system crisis. In fact, to be truly correct, there has been a health system crisis, but the crisis is that the hospitals are empty,” he said on Fox. “This is true in Florida where the lockdown was late, this is true in southern California where the lockdown was early, it’s true in Oklahoma where there is no statewide lockdown. There doesn’t seem to be any correlation between the lockdown and whether or not the epidemic has spread wide and fast.”
----

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

And he said the mainstream media are, in part, to blame.

“Look, I get why people were so scared three or four weeks ago. I was too. But now – for the media to ignore the real demographics and scare people with outlier cases – to ignore the mostly empty hospitals all over the country – to pretend that the models weren’t wrong … and to refuse to ask really hard questions about what that means about them and the efficacy or lack thereof of the lockdowns – to refuse to ask for hard metrics we will use to reopen the country … it doesn’t feel like panic is driving this anymore. It feels like people just won’t admit what’s happening,” he wrote on Twitter.

Berenson also pointed out that COVID-19 deaths are on pace to come in even with the deaths attributed to influenza in 2017.

“Nobody says COVID-19 is not real, that it can’t tax hospitals or kill people, esp. if they are over 75 or have comorbidities. But right now the best CURRENT projection is for 61,000 US deaths. That was the 2017 flu season. Why have we shut the country?” he wrote.
====

The Green New Nose Under the Tent

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.
=

The Pandemic: Where We Stand Now

Crudely speaking, if we assume that the U.S. is around 50% of the way through the COVID-19 epidemic, we might expect something like 33,000 fatalities, equal to an average seasonal flu year. An inevitable second round of infections after our governments finally let people go back to work, and out in public, may raise that number, but no one I know of has tried to guess to what extent. Still, any way you look at it, it is hard to see how COVID-19 deaths will exceed the flu fatalities we experienced two years ago. And that was barely a news story.

The projections may be wrong, they usually are, but that doesn't mean they don't take social distancing into account.

 

[Crepitus]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

No...it isn't........social distancing didn't have time to effect the change in numbers....they are lying to you.

‘Why Have We Shut Down The Country?’ Ex-New York Times Reporter Challenges The Dire Coronavirus Models

Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who worked for “the paper of record” from 1999 to 2010, has been doing his own analysis of the ever-changing models and offered some thoughts in a Fox News interview.
----

Berenson recently focused his attention on the IMHE model.

“Aside from New York, nationally there’s been no health system crisis. In fact, to be truly correct, there has been a health system crisis, but the crisis is that the hospitals are empty,” he said on Fox. “This is true in Florida where the lockdown was late, this is true in southern California where the lockdown was early, it’s true in Oklahoma where there is no statewide lockdown. There doesn’t seem to be any correlation between the lockdown and whether or not the epidemic has spread wide and fast.”
----

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

And he said the mainstream media are, in part, to blame.

“Look, I get why people were so scared three or four weeks ago. I was too. But now – for the media to ignore the real demographics and scare people with outlier cases – to ignore the mostly empty hospitals all over the country – to pretend that the models weren’t wrong … and to refuse to ask really hard questions about what that means about them and the efficacy or lack thereof of the lockdowns – to refuse to ask for hard metrics we will use to reopen the country … it doesn’t feel like panic is driving this anymore. It feels like people just won’t admit what’s happening,” he wrote on Twitter.

Berenson also pointed out that COVID-19 deaths are on pace to come in even with the deaths attributed to influenza in 2017.

“Nobody says COVID-19 is not real, that it can’t tax hospitals or kill people, esp. if they are over 75 or have comorbidities. But right now the best CURRENT projection is for 61,000 US deaths. That was the 2017 flu season. Why have we shut the country?” he wrote.
====

The Green New Nose Under the Tent

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.
=

The Pandemic: Where We Stand Now

Crudely speaking, if we assume that the U.S. is around 50% of the way through the COVID-19 epidemic, we might expect something like 33,000 fatalities, equal to an average seasonal flu year. An inevitable second round of infections after our governments finally let people go back to work, and out in public, may raise that number, but no one I know of has tried to guess to what extent. Still, any way you look at it, it is hard to see how COVID-19 deaths will exceed the flu fatalities we experienced two years ago. And that was barely a news story.

The projections you ignorant twit.

Damn you people are stupid.

Hey....shitstain..........the Chinese Virus has a survival rate of over 98%........and the social distancing didn't have time to effect anything...you moron...

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

Double down on stupid.

Well done Dingbat.

 

[alang1216]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

What too many people just do not understand? The Chinese Virus works for the left wing and the democrat party....the destruction to the economy works for them........that is why they are more than happy to keep the economy shut down for the long into the future........they want Trump to lose in November, the Chinese virus helps with that.......they think the United States is the root of evil in the world, so destroying the economy allows the other countries a chance to beat us....the Chinese virus helps with that.....they want to implement socialism in this country...the Chinese Virus helps with that.....

Giving control over how we come out of this to the people who prosper with the Chinese Virus being successful...is not smart policy.......it is the same as giving the people who think the world is over populated control over the healthcare system.....

I'm no Trump supporter but I don't blame him for the pandemic or the economic effects and I doubt anyone does. He is accountable for how he handles the crisis and the recovery however and so far his decisions have not impressed me.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's not a lie.

/thread

 

[2aguy]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

No...it isn't........social distancing didn't have time to effect the change in numbers....they are lying to you.

‘Why Have We Shut Down The Country?’ Ex-New York Times Reporter Challenges The Dire Coronavirus Models

Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who worked for “the paper of record” from 1999 to 2010, has been doing his own analysis of the ever-changing models and offered some thoughts in a Fox News interview.
----

Berenson recently focused his attention on the IMHE model.

“Aside from New York, nationally there’s been no health system crisis. In fact, to be truly correct, there has been a health system crisis, but the crisis is that the hospitals are empty,” he said on Fox. “This is true in Florida where the lockdown was late, this is true in southern California where the lockdown was early, it’s true in Oklahoma where there is no statewide lockdown. There doesn’t seem to be any correlation between the lockdown and whether or not the epidemic has spread wide and fast.”
----

But Berenson said the precipitous drop in cases has occurred before lockdowns would have had a chance to have an impact, saying it would take several weeks for social distancing measures to take effect.

And he said the mainstream media are, in part, to blame.

“Look, I get why people were so scared three or four weeks ago. I was too. But now – for the media to ignore the real demographics and scare people with outlier cases – to ignore the mostly empty hospitals all over the country – to pretend that the models weren’t wrong … and to refuse to ask really hard questions about what that means about them and the efficacy or lack thereof of the lockdowns – to refuse to ask for hard metrics we will use to reopen the country … it doesn’t feel like panic is driving this anymore. It feels like people just won’t admit what’s happening,” he wrote on Twitter.

Berenson also pointed out that COVID-19 deaths are on pace to come in even with the deaths attributed to influenza in 2017.

“Nobody says COVID-19 is not real, that it can’t tax hospitals or kill people, esp. if they are over 75 or have comorbidities. But right now the best CURRENT projection is for 61,000 US deaths. That was the 2017 flu season. Why have we shut the country?” he wrote.
====

The Green New Nose Under the Tent

The draconian measures put in place completely out of proportion to the threat they purport to combat. Please, please, please, note that the general death rate fell before any “social distancing” measures were put in place and the Imperial College model was revised after three days of lockdown, well before it could have had any impact on infection and lethality rates, both of which are fudged anyway. We neither have enough tests to test the entire population nor are the death certificates that list COVID-19 as the cause entirely truthful.
=

The Pandemic: Where We Stand Now

Crudely speaking, if we assume that the U.S. is around 50% of the way through the COVID-19 epidemic, we might expect something like 33,000 fatalities, equal to an average seasonal flu year. An inevitable second round of infections after our governments finally let people go back to work, and out in public, may raise that number, but no one I know of has tried to guess to what extent. Still, any way you look at it, it is hard to see how COVID-19 deaths will exceed the flu fatalities we experienced two years ago. And that was barely a news story.

The projections may be wrong, they usually are, but that doesn't mean they don't take social distancing into account.

Those projections did take social distancing into account but that social distancing did not have enough time to effect the changes the models were predicting.........social distancing did not change the outcome....the fact that the Chinese virus has a survival rate of 98% or more made those numbers...........notice how the media never mentions that survival rate in their reporting.....they want people to think the Chinese Virus is a death sentence like the plague........they want the economy shut down for all the reasons I pointed out.........the Chinese Virus is their friend, not their enemy.

 

[2aguy]

And the second biggest lie....that social distancing lowered the number from 1-2 million dead Americans to less than 60,000....the same as a regular flu season.....as numerous articles point out, the social distancing measures did not have time to have an effect on the numbers..........

Actually these numbers are future projections based on the current behavior of Americans. Social distancing is the key to the changed projections.

What too many people just do not understand? The Chinese Virus works for the left wing and the democrat party....the destruction to the economy works for them........that is why they are more than happy to keep the economy shut down for the long into the future........they want Trump to lose in November, the Chinese virus helps with that.......they think the United States is the root of evil in the world, so destroying the economy allows the other countries a chance to beat us....the Chinese virus helps with that.....they want to implement socialism in this country...the Chinese Virus helps with that.....

Giving control over how we come out of this to the people who prosper with the Chinese Virus being successful...is not smart policy.......it is the same as giving the people who think the world is over populated control over the healthcare system.....

I'm no Trump supporter but I don't blame him for the pandemic or the economic effects and I doubt anyone does. He is accountable for how he handles the crisis and the recovery however and so far his decisions have not impressed me.

Well.......apparently even the democrat party governors like what he has done.......and his banning Travel from china because of the Chinese Virus got the asshats calling him a racist and a xenophobe...before they decided to say he did it too late.......you need to open your eyes and see the dynamic playing out here....

 

[Camp]

Trump did too little too late. He and his supporters are desperate to hide this fact. Even the things he did like his travel shut down he did half-ass. 10's of thousands continued to flood into America from China thanks to Trump's eleven exemptions. And who can forget all those poor souls trapped in New York airports packed like sardines for hours? Trapped, literally, by a stupid irresponsible President Trump.

 

[2aguy]

Trump did too little too late. He and his supporters are desperate to hide this fact. Even the things he did like his travel shut down he did half-ass. 10's of thousands continued to flood into America from China thanks to Trump's eleven exemptions. And who can forget all those poor souls trapped in New York airports packed like sardines for hours? Trapped, literally, by a stupid irresponsible President Trump.

Keep lying...you sack of biden............. the internet is forever, and the ads that will play showing biden saying Trump was wrong to stop travel to china will be non stop....the ads showing biden and his family sucking up Chinese money will be non stop.....the ads showing the democrat party governors praising Trump for all he did to save their asses will be non stop.....

See you in November.....you moron......

And.......that first Trump rally after this scam is over.....? Will be legendary.....

 

[Camp]

Trump did too little too late. He and his supporters are desperate to hide this fact. Even the things he did like his travel shut down he did half-ass. 10's of thousands continued to flood into America from China thanks to Trump's eleven exemptions. And who can forget all those poor souls trapped in New York airports packed like sardines for hours? Trapped, literally, by a stupid irresponsible President Trump.

Keep lying...you sack of biden............. the internet is forever, and the ads that will play showing biden saying Trump was wrong to stop travel to china will be non stop....the ads showing biden and his family sucking up Chinese money will be non stop.....the ads showing the democrat party governors praising Trump for all he did to save their asses will be non stop.....

See you in November.....you moron......

And.......that first Trump rally after this scam is over.....? Will be legendary.....

Sounds like you need a cig, a shot, and a beer.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Trump did not wait till it was too late.

Don't believe these Deep State jerks that keep repeating the same lie as if they're reading it off of a cue-card.
Trump talked about fighting the virus in his State Of The Union address Feb 4...and Nancy Pelosi decided to tear it to pieces.

Does anyone remember all of the statements in January from Democrats about acting like nothing was going on?
I do.
While they were busy trying to kick Trump out of office the virus was already spreading.
In late Feb Nancy Pelosi was telling everyone things were fine.


To make things worse...the CDC made sure that hundreds of Americans living in Wuhan China were brought here before a single reported case. Now Dr Fauci is going around telling everyone that Trump is the one who screwed up....not him. At least that is what the corrupt media is claiming. If anything....the CDC made sure it was spread, not Trump. The Democrats were calling Trump a racist and a xenophobe for banning flights from China.....yet these SOBs think they can repeat this lie and maybe enough idiots will believe them.

Trump waited until it was too late. If he climbs on a plane on January 22nd, comes home and starts taking decisive action to mobilize the proper government agencies to take action, maybe we don't have to shut the entire country down. The right wing media has been in an absolute death spin of frenzy trying to shift blame for the response to this virus. But the bottom line here is that the lion share of the blame goes to Trump. It was more important to tweet, hold his pep rallies, watch Fox News and golf. No amount of spin will change that. That nice bump in the polls he got after March 13th is evaporating...rapidly. Questions are already being asked of him and his administration of why the response was delayed.

Why didn’t you warn him? It’s your fault!!

It's not my fault, I voted for Clinton.

You mean Hillary Rosenberg?

 

[alang1216]

Well.......apparently even the democrat party governors like what he has done.......and his banning Travel from china because of the Chinese Virus got the asshats calling him a racist and a xenophobe...before they decided to say he did it too late.......you need to open your eyes and see the dynamic playing out here....

Which governors are those? Are they saying nice things because Trump demands appreciation?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump blocked some travel from China and then declared “Mission Accomplished”

What else was there for him to do?

While Trump was announcing the Virus was beaten, cases would not rise and quickly go down to zero and comparing the virus to the flu, he should have been using the time to get tests out there, urge isolation and gathering respirators

The ChiComs lied about EVERYTHING. They need to pay for it

The democrats have lied more than the Chinese.

 

[OldLady]

Dr Fauci is going around telling everyone that Trump is the one who screwed up....not him.

That is sure not what Fauci actually said in the interview. I link the whole thing here, not just the snippets CNN wants you to hear. I typed it out, as well. Fauci was defending the complexity of what the administration had to decide:

Fauci admits earlier Covid-19 mitigation efforts would have saved more American lives | CNN Politics

Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that calls to implement life-saving social distancing measures faced "a lot of pushback" early in the US coronavirus outbreak and that the country is now looking for ways to more effectively respond to the virus should it rebound in the fall.

www.cnn.com

JAKE TAPPER: South Korea and the US announced their first confirmed cases of the coronavirus at virtually the same time, In late January. If you look where we are right now in the US, the US has 50 times more cases and almost one hundred times more fatalities. While the US makes up only 4.25% of the world population, the US has 30% of the world’s reported cases and almost 20% of the world’s reported deaths. Dr. Sanjay Gupta said that’s all because we got started too late in the US. Is that right? Do you agree?

DR. FAUCI: You know, it isn’t as simple as that, Jake, I’m sorry. To just say this is all happening because we got started too late—obviously, if you had done something earlier could it have had an impact, obviously. But where we are right now is the result of a number of factors. The size of the country, the ___________ of the country. I think it’s a little unfair to compare us to South Korea, where they had an outbreak in Dagu and they had the capability of shutting it off completely in a way that we may not have been able to do.

So obviously, it would have been nice if we’d had a better head start, but I don’t think you can say we are where we are because of one factor. It’s very complicated, Jake.

JAKE TAPPER: The New York Times reported yesterday that you and other top officials wanted to recommend social and physical distancing guidelines to President Trump as far back as the third week in February, but the administration didn’t announce such guidelines to the American public until March 16, almost a month later. Why?

DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, as I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint; we make a recommendation. Often it’s taken, sometimes it’s not. But it is what it is; we are where we are right now.

JAKE TAPPER: Do you think lives could have been saved if social distancing, physical distancing, , stay at home measures had been started the third week in February instead of mid-March?

DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, once again it’s the “what would have, what could have” –it’s very difficult to go back and say that. I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, that it could have saved lives. Obviously. No one is going to deny that. But what goes in to those kind of decisions is complicated. But you’re right. If we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump did too little too late. He and his supporters are desperate to hide this fact. Even the things he did like his travel shut down he did half-ass. 10's of thousands continued to flood into America from China thanks to Trump's eleven exemptions. And who can forget all those poor souls trapped in New York airports packed like sardines for hours? Trapped, literally, by a stupid irresponsible President Trump.

After shutting travel from China, Trump thought he was done

From that point, we were told the virus was not a big deal, it would be no worse than the flu, it could be quickly eradicated

We missed vital time to safeguard the people, stock up on test kits and ventilators

 

[ColonelAngus]

BOTTOM FUCKIN LINE IS THIS.....TRUMP IS THE LEADER OF THIS COUNTRY AND IT WAS UNDER HIS GOTDAMN WATCH, THIS SHIT HAS SPIRALED OUT OF CONTROL.....AND NOTHING YOU BRAIN DEAD STOCK MARKET BITCHES ARE GONNA SAY OR DO THAT WILL CHANGE THOSE FUCKIN FACTS...UNDERSTAND?

Pelosi went to Chinatown and encouraged everyone to go seems odd.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You guys really need to calm down.
This is your time. The next one to five years is Trump's time. The Age of Trumpism.
You guys don't need to be so sensitive. Be proud of your unequivocal devotion.
In the meantime, I'll remain confident that we'll get past this.
Chill.

There is no 'getting past' your lack of a moral framework, your lack of integrity and your disrespect for objective Truth.

Your time is past. Reality is beyond your ability to recognize it, let alone analyze it or manipulate it in real world terms.

All you can do is spin, lie and conspire to slander innocent people who are far better than you are.