The Bush legacy

[JRK]

Bin Laden was laughing at Bush for eight years

He laughed so hard that he used not one, not two, not three....but FOUR jets to attack us

Only difference is that he did not stand in front of a banner saying "Mission Accomplished"

UBL may have laughed
but in the end GWB got him through the intel we gathered during the Bush years
And what did GWB do to cause that attack? do you realize that maybe the terrorist had something to do with it?

Really now?

If Bush had the intel, why didn't he use it?

Too busy being tied up in Iraq? Maybe if he hadn't diverted his security infrastructure to invade Iraq, he could have actually caught the guy

what part of Al qaeda being in Iraq do you not get?
what part of GWB did use the intel do you not get?
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...xICQDA&usg=AFQjCNEdjBCOQ6-kKraALl064QPA8SoE-g

 

[rightwinger]

UBL may have laughed
but in the end GWB got him through the intel we gathered during the Bush years
And what did GWB do to cause that attack? do you realize that maybe the terrorist had something to do with it?

Really now?

If Bush had the intel, why didn't he use it?

Too busy being tied up in Iraq? Maybe if he hadn't diverted his security infrastructure to invade Iraq, he could have actually caught the guy

what part of Al qaeda being in Iraq do you not get?
what part of GWB did use the intel do you not get?
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...xICQDA&usg=AFQjCNEdjBCOQ6-kKraALl064QPA8SoE-g

Bush opened the door for AlQaeda in Iraq

Saddam wanted no part of them

 

[Redfish]

Bush was an honest man??? If you believe that I have a lovely ski resort in Miami I'd like to talk to you about.

Bush invaded Iraq so him and his buddies could profit. They outsourced supplying the troops in Iraq to their own companies and profitted from those associations. Cheney made millions through Haliburton. But they botched it. They destroyed schools, hospitals, and museums, and sold off the country's infrastructure to their friends.

It caused an incredible backlash inside Iraq and lead to the Iraqi's fighting back. They didn't liberate Iraq, they raped it. And they did it on a lie - Weapons of mass destruction.

total bullshit, no other comment warranted by such a stupid post.

 

[Katzndogz]

22 pages to deflect away from the total disaster than obama has become. Whatever Bush's legacy will be, obama's is a broken country who has become the laughingstock of the world.

 

[Redfish]

Jake keeps saying that , but not once will share his proof The US govt gave the conditions to remove Saddam from power The UN stated for the record on 1-27-2003 those conditions had been met

The USA has no legal power to determine UN standards for Iraq; none, whatsoever.

To try to do so and then act on them are criminal matters.

The USA has no power to enforce UN resolutions, because the Congress is incompetent legally to do so.

Bush is, and will ever so remain, America's greatest war criminal.

snake, we know that you hate bush and love obama. we get who and what you are. your credibility is below zero. its a waste of time to try to have an honest discussion with you because you are not an honest person, you are nothing but a tool for the dem/lib liars.

 

[BlindBoo]

The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] Pub.L. 107–243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing military action against Iraq.



Damn reality...

Indeed.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ243/html/PLAW-107publ243.htm

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed
Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and
appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States
against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) Presidential Determination.--In connection with the exercise of
the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President
shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible,
but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make
available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the
President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or
other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately
protect the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to
enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent
with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorist and
terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations,
or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the
terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

So when are you going to start the thread that Iran loves us?

I can't wait to hear this one...

Why, what is Bushes legacy in Iran and how is Jr. trying to revise it?

 

[GWV5903]

Bush came into office with dreams of an historic presidency

Once 9-11 occurred, Bush had his shot at being one of the greatest Presidents in history. He had unlimited support both at home and abroad to fight terrorism. He instituted the Bush doctrine where he would reshape the Islamic world as a democracy

He looked at Afghanistan and Iraq as the keys. Instil Democracies by force and Iran, Syria, Libya would follow. A Democratic Domino Theory with Bush as its founder and Americans as liberators. It would be over in a few months

Instead he got civil wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He destabilized the region and made Iran more powerful. Instead of being treated as liberators, we were treated as unwanted conquerors. 6000 American dead and trillions in debt.

At home, he ran up unchecked debt that he passed on to Obama in tax cuts and unpaid wars. When the economy tanked, he followed republican doctrine and let it self correct. The result was an economic collapse that he had no idea what to do. Banks collapsing, GDP tanking, 700,000 jobs lost each month, auto industry collapsing


That is the legacy of George W Bush

Well the first half of your statement is right, the rest was about winning power in DC, amazing how low people will go to win...

This is where we all lost and the sad part is how many of you can't see it...

It would be over in a few months, where do you come up with this...

We can start with "Mission Accmplished"

Then move on to the Bush administrations refusal to put more troops on the ground to stabilize the nation

We still have bases globally after what 65+ years and you think in a matter of a few months it is under control?

Also, the Monday morning QB is way off, the ME is core to global future and it has been since the evolution of oil...

The simple truth is ALL the Democrats Leadership was on board, but in a matter of a few short years it wasn't politically expedient to have the same open opinion, yet Oblammer has done nothing different with either theater...

And do not get me going on the housing fiasco, Clinton's fingerprints are all over it...

 

[JRK]

Jake keeps saying that , but not once will share his proof The US govt gave the conditions to remove Saddam from power The UN stated for the record on 1-27-2003 those conditions had been met

The USA has no legal power to determine UN standards for Iraq; none, whatsoever.

To try to do so and then act on them are criminal matters.

The USA has no power to enforce UN resolutions, because the Congress is incompetent legally to do so.

Bush is, and will ever so remain, America's greatest war criminal.

snake, we know that you hate bush and love obama. we get who and what you are. your credibility is below zero. its a waste of time to try to have an honest discussion with you because you are not an honest person, you are nothing but a tool for the dem/lib liars.

Put him on ignore
he is a total waste of energy
I fell sorry for him, I really do
He thinks the UN has some power of congress
we were attacked on 9-11-2001
Saddam Hussien attacked Kuwait in 1991 and his terms of surrender were not met. He killed millions after and continued to ignore the very terms he signed in surrendering
And yet some-how GWB is the criminal
That makes allot of sense

 

[JRK]

Really now?

If Bush had the intel, why didn't he use it?

Too busy being tied up in Iraq? Maybe if he hadn't diverted his security infrastructure to invade Iraq, he could have actually caught the guy

what part of Al qaeda being in Iraq do you not get?
what part of GWB did use the intel do you not get?
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...xICQDA&usg=AFQjCNEdjBCOQ6-kKraALl064QPA8SoE-g

Bush opened the door for AlQaeda in Iraq

Saddam wanted no part of them

There were there in 2002
How did GWB have anything to do with that except blowing them to kningdom come evreywhere else they were?
There lays in the entire problem. Saddam had no control of who come and went
he had terrorist groups both welcome and not welcomed all over that country

 

[BlindBoo]

obama only got osama because of the intel begun under Bush. He only gave the OK on the hit because he knew it would come out that he (like Clinton) had him and let him go.

The world is laughing because Putin is a man and obama is a pussy boy. We are in worldwide danger with this incompetent fool as CIC.

But this thread is about the Bush legacy, Bush was not a great president, but he did an OK job under the circumstances following 9/11.

Bush is basically a good honest person, I cannot give either of those attributes to obama.

Bin Laden was laughing at Bush for eight years

He laughed so hard that he used not one, not two, not three....but FOUR jets to attack us

Only difference is that he did not stand in front of a banner saying "Mission Accomplished"

UBL may have laughed
but in the end GWB got him through the intel we gathered during the Bush years
And what did GWB do to cause that attack? do you realize that maybe the terrorist had something to do with it?

Saying he "lived the real story," Panetta added that "in order to put the puzzle of intelligence together that led us to bin Laden, there was a lot of intelligence. There were a lot of pieces out there that were part of that puzzle."

Panetta: Enhanced interrogation did not lead to bin Laden - Political Eye - CBS News

Panetta went on to say that there was at least some truth to the notion that enhanced interrogation was part of the hunt for bin Laden.

"Yes, some of it came from some of the tactics that were used at that time, interrogation tactics that were used," he admitted. "But the fact is we put together most of that intelligence without having to resort to that."

NBC's Chuck Todd followed up: "And you think you could have gotten it without any?"

Panetta replied: "I think we could have gotten bin Laden without that."


President Bush lost interest in finding bin Laden.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o]Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube[/ame]

After all he had the invasion and occupation of Iraq on his plate at the time.

 

[BlindBoo]

UBL may have laughed
but in the end GWB got him through the intel we gathered during the Bush years
And what did GWB do to cause that attack? do you realize that maybe the terrorist had something to do with it?

Really now?

If Bush had the intel, why didn't he use it?

Too busy being tied up in Iraq? Maybe if he hadn't diverted his security infrastructure to invade Iraq, he could have actually caught the guy

what part of Al qaeda being in Iraq do you not get?
what part of GWB did use the intel do you not get?
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...xICQDA&usg=AFQjCNEdjBCOQ6-kKraALl064QPA8SoE-g

The only base or cell al Qaeda had was in the autonomous Rebel Kurdish territory. You know the Kurd opposed Saddam's government right?

There was never any proof that the missing weapons ever existed. It could very will be a clerical error. Compared to the amount of chemical precursors Iraq was able to obtain from the West after Ray-gun took them off the Nations who Sponsor Terrorist list, it was a small amount. But be that as it may the Iraqis never reconstituted any of their WMD programs after being repelled from Kuwait. Hell they were never able to reconstitute their conventional army for that matter.

Nope, President Bushes legacy was sealed by his monumental strategic blunder that was the invasion and occupation of Iraq. No amount of revisionism will be able to change that.

 

[BlindBoo]

what part of Al qaeda being in Iraq do you not get?
what part of GWB did use the intel do you not get?
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...xICQDA&usg=AFQjCNEdjBCOQ6-kKraALl064QPA8SoE-g

Bush opened the door for AlQaeda in Iraq

Saddam wanted no part of them

There were there in 2002
How did GWB have anything to do with that except blowing them to kningdom come evreywhere else they were?
There lays in the entire problem. Saddam had no control of who come and went
he had terrorist groups both welcome and not welcomed all over that country

One small cell in the Kurdish controlled territory. Protected by the UK-US no fly zone too.

Well I guess we could have attacked that cell instead of invading and occupying a country that didn't attack us on 9-11. But where is the profit in that?

How many Mexican Cartels operate in the US?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish and JRK keep trying to avoid the chasm that stretches across their argument, which prevents them crossing to safe ground.

The USA had no legal international standing to invade Iraq.

The USA had no legal international standing to enforce UN regulations.

If Bush or Romney or Rice etc stepped off a plane in Brussels or Paris or Madrid today, they would be arrested and taken to The Hague for trial for war crimes.

They would never come.

 

[JRK]

Bush opened the door for AlQaeda in Iraq

Saddam wanted no part of them

There were there in 2002
How did GWB have anything to do with that except blowing them to kningdom come evreywhere else they were?
There lays in the entire problem. Saddam had no control of who come and went
he had terrorist groups both welcome and not welcomed all over that country

One small cell in the Kurdish controlled territory. Protected by the UK-US no fly zone too.

Well I guess we could have attacked that cell instead of invading and occupying a country that didn't attack us on 9-11. But where is the profit in that?

How many Mexican Cartels operate in the US?

How many mexican cartels have turned passenger jets into scud missiles?
And for the record, GWB biggest failure as our president was not securing the border
That is where the left and me are different
I call it as it is, not as I am told
BHO over-all has done a great job on the war(s) excpet his Benghazi event
that mistake was made ten times worse by lying about it

 

[JakeStarkey]

You neo-cons are truly hurting the country, JRK.

Christie will throw all of you out.

 

[BlindBoo]

There were there in 2002
How did GWB have anything to do with that except blowing them to kningdom come evreywhere else they were?
There lays in the entire problem. Saddam had no control of who come and went
he had terrorist groups both welcome and not welcomed all over that country

One small cell in the Kurdish controlled territory. Protected by the UK-US no fly zone too.

Well I guess we could have attacked that cell instead of invading and occupying a country that didn't attack us on 9-11. But where is the profit in that?

How many Mexican Cartels operate in the US?

How many mexican cartels have turned passenger jets into scud missiles?
And for the record, GWB biggest failure as our president was not securing the border
That is where the left and me are different
I call it as it is, not as I am told
BHO over-all has done a great job on the war(s) excpet his Benghazi event
that mistake was made ten times worse by lying about it

The Mexican Cartels was an example of how the US cannot control who come and who goes here too. Why is that a reason for the invasion of Iraq as you stated above?

The Hijackers used the immigration system to gain access to the country.

Obama's response to Benghazi has nothing to do with Bushes legacy!

 

[GWV5903]

Indeed.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ243/html/PLAW-107publ243.htm

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed
Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and
appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States
against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) Presidential Determination.--In connection with the exercise of
the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President
shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible,
but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make
available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the
President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or
other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately
protect the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to
enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council
resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent
with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorist and
terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations,
or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the
terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

So when are you going to start the thread that Iran loves us?

I can't wait to hear this one...

Why, what is Bushes legacy in Iran and how is Jr. trying to revise it?

So they don't love us???

We are on great terms with Iran???

Just checking...

 

[rightwinger]

22 pages to deflect away from the total disaster than obama has become. Whatever Bush's legacy will be, obama's is a broken country who has become the laughingstock of the world.

You are welcome to start a thread about the Obama legacy

This one is about the Bush legacy

Believe it or not, they are intertwined

 

[BlindBoo]

So when are you going to start the thread that Iran loves us?

I can't wait to hear this one...

Why, what is Bushes legacy in Iran and how is Jr. trying to revise it?

So they don't love us???

We are on great terms with Iran???

Just checking...

Iranians or the Iranian Government?

The Daily Show Goes to Iran on Vimeo

 

[Caroljo]

Very, very few wish GWB was still president: only the very stupid ones. GWB would lose by 10 points to Obama, which says bad things about my Republican Party

YOUR Republican Party....that's a laugh!! And this is only your opinion.....I tend to believe my son first.

Caroljo, I honor you son's service, and he is absolutely in error in his opinion.

Thank you....but again, that is your opinion. It was after he had been to Iraq 3 times that he was determined to get into Special Forces where he would feel like he was actually making a contribution. It royally pissed him off after a year in Baghdad, constant mortar attacks on their base, watching the good people of Iraq being killed by their own people and you don't know who the terrorists are! Now he's leaving in November for Afghanistan....I absolutely hate the thought of him going there with Obama as President!
Twice as many of our soldiers have died there under Obama than they did under Bush....and what is Obama doing about it??