The Bystander Effect

[toobfreak]

All of the studies and experts would tell you the horrors of city life and the futility of carrying a gun because you are on your own and certainly, to watch the liberal videos, if you get mugged, all the Leftards stand around with their phones taking video of it rather than help out, so you really need a cop, right?

Well, someone got the brainy idea to actually look at surveillance cameras in three locations around the world and guess what? They discovered the EXACT OPPOSITE is true. That when there are others around, that in at least 90 (NINETY) percent of the time, good people are willing to come to your aid to help self-police communities against bad guys because the police are seldom where you need them when you need them (not their fault):

How Often Will Bystanders Help Strangers in Need? - CityLab

 

[shockedcanadian]

All of the studies and experts would tell you the horrors of city life and the futility of carrying a gun because you are on your own and certainly, to watch the liberal videos, if you get mugged, all the Leftards stand around with their phones taking video of it rather than help out, so you really need a cop, right?

Well, someone got the brainy idea to actually look at surveillance cameras in three locations around the world and guess what? They discovered the EXACT OPPOSITE is true. That when there are others around, that in at least 90 (NINETY) percent of the time, good people are willing to come to your aid to help self-police communities against bad guys because the police are seldom where you need them when you need them (not their fault):

How Often Will Bystanders Help Strangers in Need? - CityLab

Well, this depends on the situation, the personal threat someone feels, how many others are around etc. I would even suggest it depends on the geography or country.

In China for instance, there was a video of a toddler walking around and cars slowly avoiding the toddler, not doing anything to get involved, and eventually one car hit and killed the kid and just kept driving. He most likely had to have seen him, if not, the others before could have prevented the tragedy most certainly.

Humans are not perfect. There are downright evil in many instances.

 

[toobfreak]

All of the studies and experts would tell you the horrors of city life and the futility of carrying a gun because you are on your own and certainly, to watch the liberal videos, if you get mugged, all the Leftards stand around with their phones taking video of it rather than help out, so you really need a cop, right?

Well, someone got the brainy idea to actually look at surveillance cameras in three locations around the world and guess what? They discovered the EXACT OPPOSITE is true. That when there are others around, that in at least 90 (NINETY) percent of the time, good people are willing to come to your aid to help self-police communities against bad guys because the police are seldom where you need them when you need them (not their fault):

How Often Will Bystanders Help Strangers in Need? - CityLab

Well, this depends on the situation, the personal threat someone feels, how many others are around etc. I would even suggest it depends on the geography or country.

Except, if you actually read the report, it DIDN'T vary between any of the locations they looked at. But there are always lone exceptions.

 

[emilynghiem]

All of the studies and experts would tell you the horrors of city life and the futility of carrying a gun because you are on your own and certainly, to watch the liberal videos, if you get mugged, all the Leftards stand around with their phones taking video of it rather than help out, so you really need a cop, right?

Well, someone got the brainy idea to actually look at surveillance cameras in three locations around the world and guess what? They discovered the EXACT OPPOSITE is true. That when there are others around, that in at least 90 (NINETY) percent of the time, good people are willing to come to your aid to help self-police communities against bad guys because the police are seldom where you need them when you need them (not their fault):

How Often Will Bystanders Help Strangers in Need? - CityLab

Dear toobfreak
GLAD you brought this up because it also explains some of the MOB mentality in politics.
When confronted with a decision to support radical change "that hasn't been done before"
people FLEE and CLING to "previous precedence". If they REALLY want something they'll
justify it at any cost despite the precedence or principles cited by others, but if they
AREN'T willing or READY for that change, they justify why they DON'T go for it. So this
is where they 'turn to other people or groups' and cite EXTERNAL sources as the reason
things can't be done that way. Because OTHER PEOPLE blah blah blah.

if OTHER PEOPLE don't change first, then they will keep approaching the problem as
convenient for them.

This is part of the Group Think and "mob mentality" I've seen in politics.
It can either work well, where people ORGANIZE by like minded beliefs so eventually
we could use party structure to organize SEPARATE followings and funding for what
people naturally believe in supporting as THEIR OWN GROUPS.

Or it can backfire where we get the ganging up and bullying in Turf and Tribal wars
between groups out to force THE OTHER to change. And they don't want to CHANGE
THAT APPROACH to separating funding and jurisdiction "because it hasn't been done before."

Very indicative of human nature.

The motivation to do something individually or different
has to OUTWEIGH the other factors or it's too easy to justify
GOING WITH THE CROWD and using THAT as justification.
"Everyone else" was doing X.
"Nobody else" was doing Y.
"Other people" can or need to do Z instead.

People and social dynamics are really fascinating.
Our need for tribal order and hierarchy can either work for us
where we get things done in an organized structure, or it
works against us where the bureaucracy and collective
group think gets in the way of making simple changes
by starting on a local individual level and revamping upward.