The curse of socialism…

[Two Thumbs]

The socialist entitlement programs overwhelm the country, of course it's socialist

Ok good .

I'll be blunt . All the winner countries are socialist .

In Ven, they went from buying food on the black market to eating their animals, to raiding schools for food to attacking any truck in hopes it had food.

the worst misery in the world comes from socialism

They wouldn't do any better under the GOP when oil prices tank...the socialists did help the poor so much, illiteracy, homelessness, etc were cut tremendously. Remember it's a 3rd world mess with oil, thanks to many years of rule by a corrupt oligarchy that continues to sabotage as much as they can. Like the GOP propaganda service calling it a dictatorship...

uhm, no

but whatever fantasy keeps you hating freedom....

...Hating the freedom of lying thieving GOP billionaires wrecking the middle class and the country lol. Legalize and tax pot, decriminalize hard drugs and treat these people, free non violent drug offenders, Uber and taxis everywhere, tax the rich more like their fair share and cut taxes on the non rich and invest in cheap college and training for good jobs going begging. Your party is the one against real freedom, dupe.

not a rep

but you are so ignorant of what happens as your plans are put into effect, it should be shocking, but it's typical.

you morons still think college would be free, even though you know the cost of college has out inflated everything else b/c of all the grants and tax money they get.

but if we just gave them more it would cost less, this time.

 

[Rustic]

Thank you, you admit it - when operating in the red that means debt.... That means no surplus. Lol

No, you ignorant chiggger.......when operating in the red it means that revenues are not meeting expenses FOR THE GIVEN PERIOD......it has NOTHING to do with debt........

No, debt is a liability. When operating in the red means you're always in debt. Economics 101

Debt isn't the end of the world . Shit, most home owners are in debt . Mortgages ain't exactly a bad thing .

They are not a good thing either, you have to admit most people do not live in within their means. Just because someone can afford the payment doesn't mean they can afford the item… LOL

You still live with your parents?

No, I lived on the 100% federal government controlled socialist Indian reservation till I was 17. I own 3 "s" corps and am 100% debt free for 20 plus years.

 

[Rustic]

Thank you, you admit it - when operating in the red that means debt.... That means no surplus. Lol

No, you ignorant chiggger.......when operating in the red it means that revenues are not meeting expenses FOR THE GIVEN PERIOD......it has NOTHING to do with debt........

No, debt is a liability. When operating in the red means you're always in debt. Economics 101

No....it means you are operating at a loss........for that period....

Dollars to donuts you've never taken an econ course......you sure as shit know nothing about accounting...

All you need to know about accounting is that if the red side is larger than the black side… You're in debt.
A grade schoolteacher can tell you that

don't go to Grade School teachers for pointers....

Are you acquainted with the terms "Retained Earnings" and "Stockholder Equity"?

Accounting is not that difficult, spend less than what you have and you're in the clear

 

[Rustic]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

 

[francoHFW]

Ok good .

I'll be blunt . All the winner countries are socialist .

In Ven, they went from buying food on the black market to eating their animals, to raiding schools for food to attacking any truck in hopes it had food.

the worst misery in the world comes from socialism

They wouldn't do any better under the GOP when oil prices tank...the socialists did help the poor so much, illiteracy, homelessness, etc were cut tremendously. Remember it's a 3rd world mess with oil, thanks to many years of rule by a corrupt oligarchy that continues to sabotage as much as they can. Like the GOP propaganda service calling it a dictatorship...

uhm, no

but whatever fantasy keeps you hating freedom....

...Hating the freedom of lying thieving GOP billionaires wrecking the middle class and the country lol. Legalize and tax pot, decriminalize hard drugs and treat these people, free non violent drug offenders, Uber and taxis everywhere, tax the rich more like their fair share and cut taxes on the non rich and invest in cheap college and training for good jobs going begging. Your party is the one against real freedom, dupe.

not a rep

but you are so ignorant of what happens as your plans are put into effect, it should be shocking, but it's typical.

you morons still think college would be free, even though you know the cost of college has out inflated everything else b/c of all the grants and tax money they get.

but if we just gave them more it would cost less, this time.

ACTUALLY, it's the GOP raising the cost of public colleges and the lack of competition for private schools many believe has raised the costs. Also the most expensive (and just plain bad) colleges are the BOOOOSH crony online colleges, that Bush actually changed laws for so his pals could scam returning GIs, at least in effect.

 

[Rustic]

In Ven, they went from buying food on the black market to eating their animals, to raiding schools for food to attacking any truck in hopes it had food.

the worst misery in the world comes from socialism

They wouldn't do any better under the GOP when oil prices tank...the socialists did help the poor so much, illiteracy, homelessness, etc were cut tremendously. Remember it's a 3rd world mess with oil, thanks to many years of rule by a corrupt oligarchy that continues to sabotage as much as they can. Like the GOP propaganda service calling it a dictatorship...

uhm, no

but whatever fantasy keeps you hating freedom....

...Hating the freedom of lying thieving GOP billionaires wrecking the middle class and the country lol. Legalize and tax pot, decriminalize hard drugs and treat these people, free non violent drug offenders, Uber and taxis everywhere, tax the rich more like their fair share and cut taxes on the non rich and invest in cheap college and training for good jobs going begging. Your party is the one against real freedom, dupe.

not a rep

but you are so ignorant of what happens as your plans are put into effect, it should be shocking, but it's typical.

you morons still think college would be free, even though you know the cost of college has out inflated everything else b/c of all the grants and tax money they get.

but if we just gave them more it would cost less, this time.

ACTUALLY, it's the GOP raising the cost of public colleges and the lack of competition for private schools many believe has raised the costs. Also the most expensive (and just plain bad) colleges are the BOOOOSH crony online colleges, that Bush actually changed laws for so his pals could scam returning GIs, at least in effect.

Blame the career politician in general, that way you don't look like such a whiner

 

[Two Thumbs]

In Ven, they went from buying food on the black market to eating their animals, to raiding schools for food to attacking any truck in hopes it had food.

the worst misery in the world comes from socialism

They wouldn't do any better under the GOP when oil prices tank...the socialists did help the poor so much, illiteracy, homelessness, etc were cut tremendously. Remember it's a 3rd world mess with oil, thanks to many years of rule by a corrupt oligarchy that continues to sabotage as much as they can. Like the GOP propaganda service calling it a dictatorship...

uhm, no

but whatever fantasy keeps you hating freedom....

...Hating the freedom of lying thieving GOP billionaires wrecking the middle class and the country lol. Legalize and tax pot, decriminalize hard drugs and treat these people, free non violent drug offenders, Uber and taxis everywhere, tax the rich more like their fair share and cut taxes on the non rich and invest in cheap college and training for good jobs going begging. Your party is the one against real freedom, dupe.

not a rep

but you are so ignorant of what happens as your plans are put into effect, it should be shocking, but it's typical.

you morons still think college would be free, even though you know the cost of college has out inflated everything else b/c of all the grants and tax money they get.

but if we just gave them more it would cost less, this time.

ACTUALLY, it's the GOP raising the cost of public colleges and the lack of competition for private schools many believe has raised the costs. Also the most expensive (and just plain bad) colleges are the BOOOOSH crony online colleges, that Bush actually changed laws for so his pals could scam returning GIs, at least in effect.

that is the worst lie I have ever heard, from an adult.

that's the second worst.

 

[francoHFW]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

 

[francoHFW]

They wouldn't do any better under the GOP when oil prices tank...the socialists did help the poor so much, illiteracy, homelessness, etc were cut tremendously. Remember it's a 3rd world mess with oil, thanks to many years of rule by a corrupt oligarchy that continues to sabotage as much as they can. Like the GOP propaganda service calling it a dictatorship...

uhm, no

but whatever fantasy keeps you hating freedom....

...Hating the freedom of lying thieving GOP billionaires wrecking the middle class and the country lol. Legalize and tax pot, decriminalize hard drugs and treat these people, free non violent drug offenders, Uber and taxis everywhere, tax the rich more like their fair share and cut taxes on the non rich and invest in cheap college and training for good jobs going begging. Your party is the one against real freedom, dupe.

not a rep

but you are so ignorant of what happens as your plans are put into effect, it should be shocking, but it's typical.

you morons still think college would be free, even though you know the cost of college has out inflated everything else b/c of all the grants and tax money they get.

but if we just gave them more it would cost less, this time.

ACTUALLY, it's the GOP raising the cost of public colleges and the lack of competition for private schools many believe has raised the costs. Also the most expensive (and just plain bad) colleges are the BOOOOSH crony online colleges, that Bush actually changed laws for so his pals could scam returning GIs, at least in effect.

Blame the career politician in general, that way you don't look like such a whiner

And leave yourself open to believing the New BS GOP's incredible Pubcrappe. see sig pp 1.

 

[Rustic]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

Do not pass go, do not collect $200… You do know that the debt/unfunded liabilities are too large to ever pay?
We've had over a century of career politicians "trying" to fix(they have always been over their head and fraudulent) the debt problem… It's worse now than ever

 

[Divine Wind]

Is america socialist or not ? Can we start there ?

Not, but many lean that way. Socialism doesn't work above the village/tribal level. It's always failed on the national scale.

 

[imawhosure]

You're stupid, this country has been in debt for decades because of socialist entitlement programs. No one's balanced the budget. dumbass

See the blue thingies?

What have you spent your life doing to remain so ignorant?

Debt is a CUMULATIVE measure, the budget is a discreet PERIODIC event...

You are nipping at Bripat's heels.......and Clementine is right on yours...

Debt is debt, Red or black there is no in between… Except for in Al Gore's lockbox

Take my word for it, Rustic.......you're an idiot.....

No, you take my word for it, YOU are the idiot!

Don't like the graph? Than show the CBO numbers, the governments own, no others. We NEVER had a balance budget under Clinton, although he did come close.

And then, forget that fantasy about what cutting taxes does. Post the CBO numbers if income to the government went up, or down after Kennedy's, Reagan, and the Bush tax cuts. Because they spent MORE has nothing to do if revenue went up, or down. If YOU get a hundred dollar a week raise, but spend 200 dollars more, of course the deficit is going to rise.

Why won't the left admit to everyone, that Washington politicians are the problem, I just don't understand their logic. And each and every time they print money, it is a hidden tax on the working man because it makes the dollars you have worth less. And who gets that money! Why Wall Street and the rich, that is who, because they have the extra money to invest in the Market, and the price of those company's and corporations inflate with every extra dollar they print. All of you who have a few thousand in the bank, lose money, each and every time they do it, and you say, "thank you sir, may I have another!"

 

[Divine Wind]

Of course we're socialist ( capitalism regulated by the community), just the most pandering to the rich of all modern countries- Thanks, New BS GOP. Woodrow made us a modern country and continued TR's reforms of the horrible unfair GOP oligarchy of the late 1800's. Read "The Good Old Days-They Were Terrible!".

OMG! Are you really that fucking deluded?

The World Factbook — Central Intelligence Agency
Government type:
federal presidential republic

Economy - overview:
The US has the most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $54,800. US firms are at or near the forefront in technological advances, especially in computers, pharmaceuticals, and medical, aerospace, and military equipment; however, their advantage has narrowed since the end of World War II. Based on a comparison of GDP measured at Purchasing Power Parity conversion rates, the US economy in 2014, having stood as the largest in the world for more than a century, slipped into second place behind China, which has more than tripled the US growth rate for each year of the past four decades.

In the US, private individuals and business firms make most of the decisions, and the federal and state governments buy needed goods and services predominantly in the private marketplace. US business firms enjoy greater flexibility than their counterparts in Western Europe and Japan in decisions to expand capital plant, to lay off surplus workers, and to develop new products. At the same time, businesses face higher barriers to enter their rivals' home markets than foreign firms face entering US markets.

Long-term problems for the US include stagnation of wages for lower-income families, inadequate investment in deteriorating infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, energy shortages, and sizable current account and budget deficits.

The onrush of technology has been a driving factor in the gradual development of a "two-tier" labor market in which those at the bottom lack the education and the professional/technical skills of those at the top and, more and more, fail to get comparable pay raises, health insurance coverage, and other benefits. But the globalization of trade, and especially the rise of low-wage producers such as China, has put additional downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on the return to capital. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. Since 1996, dividends and capital gains have grown faster than wages or any other category of after-tax income.

Imported oil accounts for nearly 55% of US consumption and oil has a major impact on the overall health of the economy. Crude oil prices doubled between 2001 and 2006, the year home prices peaked; higher gasoline prices ate into consumers' budgets and many individuals fell behind in their mortgage payments. Oil prices climbed another 50% between 2006 and 2008, and bank foreclosures more than doubled in the same period. Besides dampening the housing market, soaring oil prices caused a drop in the value of the dollar and a deterioration in the US merchandise trade deficit, which peaked at $840 billion in 2008. Because the US economy is energy-intensive, falling oil prices since 2013 have alleviated many of the problems the earlier increases had created.

The sub-prime mortgage crisis, falling home prices, investment bank failures, tight credit, and the global economic downturn pushed the US into a recession by mid-2008. GDP contracted until the third quarter of 2009, making this the deepest and longest downturn since the Great Depression. To help stabilize financial markets, the US Congress established a $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) in October 2008. The government used some of these funds to purchase equity in US banks and industrial corporations, much of which had been returned to the government by early 2011. In January 2009, Congress passed and President Barack OBAMA signed a bill providing an additional $787 billion fiscal stimulus to be used over 10 years - two-thirds on additional spending and one-third on tax cuts - to create jobs and to help the economy recover. In 2010 and 2011, the federal budget deficit reached nearly 9% of GDP. In 2012, the Federal Government reduced the growth of spending and the deficit shrank to 7.6% of GDP. US revenues from taxes and other sources are lower, as a percentage of GDP, than those of most other countries.

Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan required major shifts in national resources from civilian to military purposes and contributed to the growth of the budget deficit and public debt. Through 2014, the direct costs of the wars totaled more than $1.5 trillion, according to US Government figures.

In March 2010, President OBAMA signed into law the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, a health insurance reform that was designed to extend coverage to an additional 32 million Americans by 2016, through private health insurance for the general population and Medicaid for the impoverished. Total spending on healthcare - public plus private - rose from 9.0% of GDP in 1980 to 17.9% in 2010.

In July 2010, the president signed the DODD-FRANK Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, a law designed to promote financial stability by protecting consumers from financial abuses, ending taxpayer bailouts of financial firms, dealing with troubled banks that are "too big to fail," and improving accountability and transparency in the financial system - in particular, by requiring certain financial derivatives to be traded in markets that are subject to government regulation and oversight.

In December 2012, the Federal Reserve Board (Fed) announced plans to purchase $85 billion per month of mortgage-backed and Treasury securities in an effort to hold down long-term interest rates, and to keep short term rates near zero until unemployment dropped below 6.5% or inflation rose above 2.5%. In late 2013, the Fed announced that it would begin scaling back long-term bond purchases to $75 billion per month in January 2014 and further reduce them as conditions warranted; the Fed ended the purchases during the summer of 2014. In 2014, the unemployment rate dropped to 6.2%, and continued to fall to 5.5% by mid-2015, the lowest rate of joblessness since before the global recession began; inflation stood at 1.7%, and public debt as a share of GDP continued to decline, following several years of increases.

 

[Norman]

Is america socialist or not ? Can we start there ?

The socialist entitlement programs overwhelm the country, of course it's socialist

Ok good .

I'll be blunt . All the winner countries are socialist .

Why don't you just move to Venezuela?

Be careful though, there is no coming back, as Obama has banned immigration from there. That kind of a winner country.

 

[Penelope]

Most of our debt is owed to SS fund, called robbing Peter to pay Paul (the MIC).

We can't afford another Bush Whitehouse, which is exactly what you will get with Trump.

 

[Rustic]

Most of our debt is owed to SS fund, called robbing Peter to pay Paul (the MIC).

We can't afford another Bush Whitehouse, which is exactly what you will get with Trump.

You're off your rocker
Lol

 

[Penelope]

Most of our debt is owed to SS fund, called robbing Peter to pay Paul (the MIC).

We can't afford another Bush Whitehouse, which is exactly what you will get with Trump.

You're off your rocker
Lol

By Kimberly Amadeo

Updated September 06, 2016

The U.S. debt is more than $19 trillion. Most headlines focus on how much the U.S. owes China, which is one of the largest foreign owners. Fewer people know that the Social Security Trust Fund

The Real Owner of the U.S. Debt Will Surprise You

 

[regent]

Most of our debt is owed to SS fund, called robbing Peter to pay Paul (the MIC).

We can't afford another Bush Whitehouse, which is exactly what you will get with Trump.

You're off your rocker
Lol

By Kimberly Amadeo

Updated September 06, 2016

The U.S. debt is more than $19 trillion. Most headlines focus on how much the U.S. owes China, which is one of the largest foreign owners. Fewer people know that the Social Security Trust Fund

The Real Owner of the U.S. Debt Will Surprise You

So is it better to borrow the SS trust funds or borrow from China. We pay interest to both.

 

[Rustic]

Most of our debt is owed to SS fund, called robbing Peter to pay Paul (the MIC).

We can't afford another Bush Whitehouse, which is exactly what you will get with Trump.

You're off your rocker
Lol

By Kimberly Amadeo

Updated September 06, 2016

The U.S. debt is more than $19 trillion. Most headlines focus on how much the U.S. owes China, which is one of the largest foreign owners. Fewer people know that the Social Security Trust Fund

The Real Owner of the U.S. Debt Will Surprise You

The real amount of debt is probably north of 225 trillion if you count unfunded liabilities which are debt

 

[IcebergSlim]

No, you ignorant chiggger.......when operating in the red it means that revenues are not meeting expenses FOR THE GIVEN PERIOD......it has NOTHING to do with debt........

No, debt is a liability. When operating in the red means you're always in debt. Economics 101

Debt isn't the end of the world . Shit, most home owners are in debt . Mortgages ain't exactly a bad thing .

They are not a good thing either, you have to admit most people do not live in within their means. Just because someone can afford the payment doesn't mean they can afford the item… LOL

You still live with your parents?

No, I lived on the 100% federal government controlled socialist Indian reservation till I was 17. I own 3 "s" corps and am 100% debt free for 20 plus years.

Did any of your S corps employ a line of credit?

Did that suggest that you were operating at a loss?