The curse of socialism…

[Onyx]

Yes lets burn the house down and go live in the 19th century just so a few rich people can rule over us. lol

Uh, the rich rule over you now.

The naivety of liberals is that they never understand who really controls the governments.

 

[Onyx]

Yes of course . You can't have uncontrolled capitalism . It will destroy itslef .

Name the best 5 countries in the world . They will have socialist elements .

That is relative.

Personally I think every state is fucked up, convoluted, and evil. They all repulse the hell out of me.

 

[Rustic]

Socialism has made Indian reservations a living hell, everything is about the handout makes for a weak people.
S corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wealthy love weak, poor people, much easier to control. Trump said he loves the educated poor or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Federal government exploits Indian reservations like there is no tomorrow. Worse now than in the past.

 

[bripat9643]

Is america socialist or not ? Can we start there ?

The socialist entitlement programs overwhelm the country, of course it's socialist

Ok good .

I'll be blunt . All the winner countries are socialist .

Is the USA a "winner" country?

 

[francoHFW]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

Do not pass go, do not collect $200… You do know that the debt/unfunded liabilities are too large to ever pay?
We've had over a century of career politicians "trying" to fix(they have always been over their head and fraudulent) the debt problem… It's worse now than ever

Debt as % of GDP is a better gauge. Will come down under Dems, not Trump ("I know, a tax cut for the rich!").

WTF happened in 2015?

Debt to GDP Ratio Historical Chart

 

[Rustic]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

Do not pass go, do not collect $200… You do know that the debt/unfunded liabilities are too large to ever pay?
We've had over a century of career politicians "trying" to fix(they have always been over their head and fraudulent) the debt problem… It's worse now than ever

Debt as % of GDP is a better gauge. Will come down under Dems, not Trump ("I know, a tax cut for the rich!").

WTF happened in 2015?

Redirect Notice

Progressives always want to punish the successful, it's an envy thing us normal people would not understand....

 

[Onyx]

Debt isn't the end of the world . Shit, most home owners are in debt . Mortgages ain't exactly a bad thing .

When debt is over 100% of GDP, that is pretty fucking bad.

All debt is bad though. Only morons take large debt. It is inherently irresponsible.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism has made Indian reservations a living hell, everything is about the handout makes for a weak people.
S corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wealthy love weak, poor people, much easier to control. Trump said he loves the educated poor or something like that.

Federal government exploits Indian reservations like there is no tomorrow. Worse now than in the past.[/QUOTE]
Reaganist screw the nonrich is worst for minorities...

 

[Penelope]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

Do not pass go, do not collect $200… You do know that the debt/unfunded liabilities are too large to ever pay?
We've had over a century of career politicians "trying" to fix(they have always been over their head and fraudulent) the debt problem… It's worse now than ever

Debt as % of GDP is a better gauge. Will come down under Dems, not Trump ("I know, a tax cut for the rich!").

WTF happened in 2015?

Redirect Notice

Progressives always want to punish the successful, it's an envy thing us normal people would not understand....

Its the progressives that make you successful. Go live on an island and see how successful you are.

 

[Rustic]

Socialism has made Indian reservations a living hell, everything is about the handout makes for a weak people.
S corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wealthy love weak, poor people, much easier to control. Trump said he loves the educated poor or something like that.

Federal government exploits Indian reservations like there is no tomorrow. Worse now than in the past.

Reaganist screw the nonrich is worst for minorities...[/QUOTE]
You kind a messed up the quotes there - did you not?

 

[francoHFW]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

Do not pass go, do not collect $200… You do know that the debt/unfunded liabilities are too large to ever pay?
We've had over a century of career politicians "trying" to fix(they have always been over their head and fraudulent) the debt problem… It's worse now than ever

Debt as % of GDP is a better gauge. Will come down under Dems, not Trump ("I know, a tax cut for the rich!").

WTF happened in 2015?

Redirect Notice

Progressives always want to punish the successful, it's an envy thing us normal people would not understand....

Duped again. Right now they're ridiculously bloated.

 

[Rustic]

Career politicians and their federal government have obviously spent more than what They will ever have... And are now printing more paper and paying debt with more debt that's called a banana republic.

90% of the debt is from Reagan and Bush and from effects of averting Booosh's corrupt world depression. Still messing up much of the world. We have the best economy in the world now. Thanks New BS GOP...

Do not pass go, do not collect $200… You do know that the debt/unfunded liabilities are too large to ever pay?
We've had over a century of career politicians "trying" to fix(they have always been over their head and fraudulent) the debt problem… It's worse now than ever

Debt as % of GDP is a better gauge. Will come down under Dems, not Trump ("I know, a tax cut for the rich!").

WTF happened in 2015?

Redirect Notice

Progressives always want to punish the successful, it's an envy thing us normal people would not understand....

Its the progressives that make you successful. Go live on an island and see how successful you are.

Keep dreaming bedwetter

 

[Onyx]

Its the progressives that make you successful. Go live on an island and see how successful you are.

Define success.

The government does not create anything on its own. There are only three or so self sufficient government institutions.

 

[francoHFW]

Yes lets burn the house down and go live in the 19th century just so a few rich people can rule over us. lol

Uh, the rich rule over you now.

The naivety of liberals is that they never understand who really controls the governments.

For 35 years now, greedy rich GOP billionaires....so out of hand now all they have is propaganda for dupes like you...

 

[francoHFW]

Debt isn't the end of the world . Shit, most home owners are in debt . Mortgages ain't exactly a bad thing .

When debt is over 100% of GDP, that is pretty fucking bad.

All debt is bad though. Only morons take large debt. It is inherently irresponsible.

Maybe another GOP corrupt world depression would help...

 

[Penelope]

No, debt is a liability. When operating in the red means you're always in debt. Economics 101

No....it means you are operating at a loss........for that period....

Dollars to donuts you've never taken an econ course......you sure as shit know nothing about accounting...

All you need to know about accounting is that if the red side is larger than the black side… You're in debt.
A grade schoolteacher can tell you that

don't go to Grade School teachers for pointers....

Are you acquainted with the terms "Retained Earnings" and "Stockholder Equity"?

Accounting is not that difficult, spend less than what you have and you're in the clear

that's keeping household books........take a look at a 10k for a publicly traded corporation sometime......

If accounting wasn't "all that difficult" they wouldn't be offering PhDs in the discipline.....and there wouldn't be IFRS and 20 flavors of GAAP

Look what they paid for brain Paulson, of course we were going down most likely due to the price of war and Bush making it easier to buy a home with no money down. They want the smartest and the best:


In 1989, the government created a one-time loophole for a handful of high level positions that would help attract highly talented professionals away from the private sector. This loophole gives the candidate the ability to liquidate his or her entire portfolio without paying a dime in capital gains taxes. For someone like Henry Paulson, whose entire $500 million portfolio would have otherwise been subject to full taxation, that represented a very attractive opportunity. This is the only reason someone would agree to forfeit a glamorous $40 million a year job in order to make $183,000. Past public servants who took the government up on this loophole include Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powell. The loophole only applies for people in the Executive Branch. That means President, Vice President and cabinet Secretaries. Senators and congressman do not qualify. Candidates either need to apply to qualify with the I.R.S. after the fact, or Congress will require the liquidation in advance for certain people and postions. Clearly Henry Paulson's ownership of 1% of the world's largest investment bank would represent a clear conflict of interest as Secretary of Treasury, so qualification was a no-brainer.

In July 2006, Henry Paulson liquidated 3.23 million shares of Goldman, roughly 1% of the entire company, in a one time public sale. Goldman's $152 share price left Paulson with a tax free gain of $491 million. Let that sink in. $491 million free an clear. Without this loophole, had Henry sold his shares at the exact same price and time, he would have been liable for more than $200 million worth of state and Federal capital gains taxes.

The $200 Million Reason Henry Paulson Became Treasury Secretary

By Brian Warner on July 14, 2014 in Articles › Entertainment

The $200 Million Reason Henry Paulson Became Treasury Secretary

 

[Onyx]

For 35 years now, greedy rich GOP billionaires....so out of hand now all they have is propaganda for dupes like you...

Interesting considering that greedy rich billionaires are profiting off of the Democrat party.

Do you really believe there was no corporate lobbying for the PPACA? Agricultural subsidies? All the recent government bailouts?

The real fighters in the war on coal are resource extraction companies lobbying Democrat politicians

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism has made Indian reservations a living hell, everything is about the handout makes for a weak people.
S corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wealthy love weak, poor people, much easier to control. Trump said he loves the educated poor or something like that.

Federal government exploits Indian reservations like there is no tomorrow. Worse now than in the past.

Reaganist screw the nonrich is worst for minorities...

You kind a messed up the quotes there - did you not?[/QUOTE]
Just like you did a bit ago. Maybe it's the site...

 

[Penelope]

Its the progressives that make you successful. Go live on an island and see how successful you are.

Define success.

The government does not create anything on its own. There are only three or so self sufficient government institutions.

Money comes from spending and once the rich and wealthy get all the money and the rest are poor, no one is left to buy anything. Its a merry go round. That is why they give stimulus packages, it just goes back to the bank, unless heaven forbid , the people get too fearful to spend.

We pretty much became a third world country in 08, thanks to Bush, and Trump will do the same think, lower taxes which only help the wealthy, cut the ACA, all the rich think about is themselves, or they wouldn't be filthy rich. Crap they don't even want to pay taxes. They are the freeloaders.
Did Trump's kids go to Iraq, no, did Trump go to Nam, no, like all the wealthy snub they went to college. Yet Trump says he sacrificed for his country, he only sacrificed for himself.

Read about his buddies, start with Icahn, he just can't own enough, read about what he owns. This is someone he is close to and would have in his cabinet, secretary of treasury or something like that. All crooks. Where is Trumps tax return?? He doesn't pay taxes.

 

[Onyx]

Maybe another GOP corrupt world depression would help...

Fallacious and deflection.

Criticism of Democrats is not avocation for Republicans. I'll rant about them in some other thread.