The day they went through the looking glass.

[rampart]

LOL!

Yeah trump rigged the MSM to say the while Mueller report showed no evidence of "Russian collusion" with Trump it criminally implicated Hillary

i know you don't know this, but trump had people on his payroll sat the ny times "maggie habersham was trump's girl there) msnbc (katie tur and andrea mitchell) etc etc.

all sworn testimony (cohen and pecker) at ny vs trump.

 

[berg80]

Clearly the world of alternative facts goes well beyond Comey's firing and the size of the inaugural crowd. It includes Trump's entire presidency.

 

[Crepitus]

Kellyanne Conway denies Trump press secretary lied: ‘He offered alternative facts’ – video
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...trump-press-secretary-alternative-facts-video

That was the beginning of what Kellyanne defined as essentially an alternative reality. Available to anyone who wants to chose to believe in something other than actual reality when it is well, let's say it's inconvenient to do so. Actual reality like a lost election.

Think of it as The Following's happy place. A safe space to go to work out the incongruity of "what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...g-in-the-news-is-not-whats-happening-inbox-x/

Quite a lot has happened since then that was well, let's say inconvenient.

“The Department of Justice has authorized me to confirm” the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, Comey said. “We’re not going to say another word about it until we’re done.”

And, indeed, he would not speak about it again, as FBI director.
The Comey firing, as retold by the Mueller report

That ended Jim's career as head of the FBI. There have been endless arguments of what that investigation, ultimately taken over by Mueller, did or didn't reveal. What is not in dispute is Don's motivation for firing Comey. As the Orange Menace said, "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." In a bizarre twist, he said that to Russians in the Oval Office.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/5291...-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation

Geebers. Now there's a good reason to seek the comfort of the alternative fact hidey hole. The POTUS fired the head of the FBI after the latter publicly acknowledged the existence of a broader investigation into potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

A summary of Comey's firing in the Mueller report goes like this.

D. Firing of James Comey

Obstructive act (p. 74): “Firing Comey would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural and probable effect of interfering with or impeding the investigation.” Trump’s handling of the Comey firing and his actions in the subsequent days “had the potential to affect a successor director’s conduct of the investigation,” though removing Comey “would not necessarily … prevent or impede the FBI from continuing its investigation.”

Nexus (p. 75): By the time of the Comey firing, Trump was aware of both the FBI investigation into Russian election interference and the investigation into Flynn.

Intent (p. 75): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump fired Comey because of “Comey’s unwillingness to publicly state that the President was not personally under investigation.” Mueller notes that “ome evidence indicates that the President believed that the erroneous perception he was under investigation harmed his ability to manage domestic and foreign affairs”—but “[o]ther evidence … indicates that the President wanted to protect himself from an investigation into his campaign.” “The initial reliance on a pretextual justification [for Comey’s firing] could support an inference that the President had concerns about providing the real reason for the firing, although the evidence does not resolve whether those concerns were personal, personal, or both.”
Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map

Gee, it seems like an alternative reality would come in handy in dealing with that. Maybe even a tin foil hat.

Since this thread is about Trump firing Comey, I will not be responding to the inevitable deflections regarding Billy the Bagman's false characterization of the Mueller report. Or anything to do with The Following's false belief in the alternative reality that Mueller exonerated Trump.

 

[berg80]

View attachment 966306

Much appreciated.

 

[ReinyDays]

Let's not forget the DNC really did ignore the voters and nominated Hillary ... and told Democrats if they didn't like, don't vote ...

Hillary hates the Russians and the Russians hate Hillary ... do we need any more reason to hack DNC computers and publish the results? ... first and foremost to defeat Hillary, no other reason needed here ... Putin was quite public about his admiration of Donald Trump ...

Once again, the DNC won't listen to Democrats and the nominee has been chosen for the voters ... if us liberals don't like it, we won't vote ...

 

[berg80]

I’m not. Numerous ways, 1) he abused his office to protect Clinton.2) he abused his office and bragged about targeting flynn, 3) he leaked classified material after he was fired in order to try and get a special prosecutor appointed 4) he spread the russian hoax knowing it was a lie

Intent (p. 75): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump fired Comey because of “Comey’s unwillingness to publicly state that the President was not personally under investigation.”

 

[berg80]

Let's not forget the DNC really did ignore the voters and nominated Hillary

Primary voters nominated Hillary.

 

[ReinyDays]

Primary voters nominated Hillary.

Then why were there documents in the DNC computers for the Russians to hack and make public ... the DNC sabotaged the Sanders campaign ... and the Russians made that public ... for Trump's benefit ... per the Russian design ...

Shame on Democrats for even having those documents ... they deserved to lose in 2016 and it's looking like they deserve to lose in 2024 ...

 

[Lesh]

I’m not. Numerous ways, 1) he abused his office to protect Clinton.2) he abused his office and bragged about targeting flynn, 3) he leaked classified material after he was fired in order to try and get a special prosecutor appointed 4) he spread the russian hoax knowing it was a lie

None of those false accusations amount to corruption

 

[bripat9643]

Gee, what a coincidence the firing came right after Comey's testimony about the investigation. And the rationale changed almost daily.

Some of us prefer the real world to the one you live in.

No, it wasn't a coincidence. Coney made it abundantly clear that he intended to stab Trump in the back,

 

[struth]

None of those false accusations amount to corruption

Unsurprising you don’t believe abusing your office is corruption

 

[Lesh]

Unsurprising you don’t believe abusing your office is corruption

Look up the definition.

Words have meanings

 

[struth]

Intent (p. 75): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump fired Comey because of “Comey’s unwillingness to publicly state that the President was not personally under investigation.”

Sure I am sure that’s part of it.

 

[struth]

Look up the definition.

Words have meanings

They do. Abusing your office is corrupting

 

[Lesh]

No, it wasn't a coincidence. Coney made it abundantly clear that he intended to stab Trump in the back,

By opening an investigation of Trump’s opponent days before an election??

 

[Lesh]

Sure I am sure that’s part of it.

That … is corrupt


Taking official action to benefit oneself

 

[struth]

As I said, I'm not going down the "Russia hoax" rabbit hole. I'm sticking with Trump's firing of Comey because...... "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

What’s taken off?

 

[struth]

By opening an investigation of Trump’s opponent days before an election??

Haha the Clinton investigation didn’t start days before the election.

 

[Lesh]

What’s taken off?

“Great pressure because of Russia”

Can you read?

Haha the Clinton investigation didn’t start days before the election.

So you’re too stupid to remember Comey Reopening an investigation days before the election and then closing it days later after the damage had been done?

 

[struth]

“Great pressure because of Russia”

Can you read?
So you’re too stupid to remember Comey Reopening an investigation days before the election and then closing it days later after the damage had been done?

I can but what does it mean? What taken off?

Oh, you are talking about how a bunch classified material was found during a investigation of a sexual predator’s laptop. They had a duty to into how her stuff ended up there

Why do you think she’s above the law?