The Democrat Worm Turns

[Ravi]

You are so far off base with me it's not even funny. This thread is about the Democrat Party finally "getting it." My post about the length to which leftwingers would go to defend Bill Clinton back in the 90s by saying stupid things like, "Character doesn't matter" when everyone knows it does is an example of what happened in the past. Now we are seeing a change with this reprobate named Weiner. Some people are here to score political points. I'm not one of them.

No one ever said, "character doesn't matter."

And yes, you are here to score political points as that lie proves.

It was all over the news.

No, it wasn't. But since you are so convinced that it was, feel free to prove it.

 

[del]

She's right on this one. Voting third party in any major election is futile. It can be principled, but it's not pragmatic. The rules of the game are what they are.

Any vote which does not issue from the barrel of a firearm, or the blade of a weapon is futile.

Principles and Ideology are all that a Man has. Without them He is nothing. With them He can be anything.

The rules of the game need to CHANGE, and soon; or the game is going to end and all of the players will find themselves LOSERS at the end.

seek professional help

 

[del]

Uh, we care regardless of what party they belong.

If they're dishonest or a deviant the need to go.

You jerks coddle your creeps. We get rid of ours.

"you jerks coddle your creeps",
I've been waiting for my call from Pelosi so I could give her my opinon on getting rid of the weiner. Nobody on either side of this board has any say in who stays and who goes in situations like these, unless you have a vote that impacts his position.

I've got a little skin in this game, (my synecdoche), as Weiner is my Congressperson...
...and the word is that the NY Dems will do away with his congressional district if he doesn't leave.

We lose one NYState district as a result of the census.

you lose two, thesaurus breath.

 

[jillian]

Some leftwingers are beginning to understand that character matters. I guess better late than never.

and as soon as the rightwingnuts get it, let me know.

 

[mudwhistle]

Some leftwingers are beginning to understand that character matters. I guess better late than never.

and as soon as the rightwingnuts get it, let me know.

 

[thereisnospoon]

and? rightwingnut freaks like santorum don't play in new jersey. your point?

Weiner posted pictures of his crank on the internet. He's a moron. So is your moronic "but Ma ,He did it first" bullshit..
Grow up little girl.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The great family values party seems to only care about the family values of people with Ds behind their names.

where is all your outrage for Vitter who wore a diaper to a prostitute and is still in office years aftrer the scandal broke.


Its fine if you are a republican , they can do what ever they want.

He's a fucking bum....

 

[thereisnospoon]

This whole issue shows just how morally bankrupt the right is.

They only care about personal integrity when its the other guy who stumbles.

Their guys can stumble and fall head first off a 30 story building and every thing is fine and they re elect them.

Nice try..This thread is about Weiner...Democrat, NY.. It stops there.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"you jerks coddle your creeps",
I've been waiting for my call from Pelosi so I could give her my opinon on getting rid of the weiner. Nobody on either side of this board has any say in who stays and who goes in situations like these, unless you have a vote that impacts his position.

I've got a little skin in this game, (my synecdoche), as Weiner is my Congressperson...
...and the word is that the NY Dems will do away with his congressional district if he doesn't leave.

We lose one NYState district as a result of the census.

you lose two, thesaurus breath.

Now cut that out!

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Palin emails prove I was right about her in September of 2008.

And Obamas past "Hanging around with Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright" proves that he is nothing more then what we thought he was, a marxist, domestic terrorist loving, America hating socialist.

It's mildly amusing that half the Right attacks Obama with descriptions like the one above,

and the other half mocks him for just carrying on Bush policies.

 

[Sallow]

and? rightwingnut freaks like santorum don't play in new jersey. your point?

Morality.

That's my point.

Vaules, and which party, which political view doesn't have any.
Surely you understand that.

Values..is something the right wing sorely lacks.

What they don't lack is an overwhelming sense of self-righteousness..and a dire need to demonize those that aren't like them..or don't share the same beliefs.

Your posts are prime examples of this.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh goody...I love tit for tat...(just a short list...which is still longer than yours )


Christopher Lee - Sent flirtatious e-mails and a shirtless photo in response to a personal ad of a single 34-year-old woman on Craigslist.

Mike Duvall - He was recently caught in assembly session gossiping about his recent extra-marital affair with a fellow lobbyist, not knowing that the microphone at his dais was switched on."

Mark Sanford - Affair with a woman in Argentina.

John Ensign - Admitted to having an affair with a married staffer

Vito Fossella - Affair with a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel

Larry Craig - Bathroom sex solicitation scandal

David Vitter - Part of the DC Madam scandal

Charles R. Boutin - Resigned from MD Public Service Comission after email exchanges with a prostitute surfaced."

Newt Gingrich - Acknowledged having an affair in the 1990s

Bob Allen - Solicited oral sex from a male undercover cop. (one of my personal favorites...he offered the cop $20 so that Allen could blow the cop!)

Mark Foley - Involved in a texting scandal with male House pages

Don Sherwood - Affair with 29-year-old woman while he was a PA congressman.

James E. West - Removed as mayor of Spokane, WA after an gay Internet sex scandal.

Jack Ryan - Former wife Jeri claimed he took her to sex clubs and pressured her to have sex in public.

Steve LaTourette - Accused of affair with staffer, who he later married.

Rudy Giuliani - Ex-wife Donna Hanover accused him of "notorious adultery"; he's now married to Judith Nathan, his girlfriend at the time

Henry Hyde - Admitted he'd had an affair many years prior

Helen Chenoweth-Hage - Admitted to a six year affair with a married rancher in her home state of Idaho (Yes, even Republican WOMEN getting in on the action)

Bob Livingston - Admitted to multiple extramarital affairs."

Bob Packwood - Resigned from Senate amid allegations of sexual harassment and abuse

Ken Calvert - Arrested while soliciting a prostitute.

Jon Grunseth - Swam nude with group of 13-year-old girls; suspended gubernatorial run.

Buz Lukens - Spent time in jail after having sex with a 16-year-old girl.

Dan Crane - Reprimanded for having sex with a teenage House page.

John G. Schmitz - Had an affair that led to an out-of-wedlock child.

Jon Hinson - Caught attempting to have oral sex in a men's House restroom.

Robert Bauman - Solicited sex from a 16-year-old boy

Thomas B. Evans, Jr. - Along with other politicians, accused of being involved with lobbyist/former Playboy model Paula Parkinson.

I suggest this information be conveyed to Political Chic. It appears her moral compass and scale maybe in need of repair.

Oh? And how many of those listed there either left office immediately or did not get re-elected as compared to the provided list of leftists caught in n'ere-do-well activity?

Why don't you tell us?

Which of your categories would PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE Newt Gingrich fall into?

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. Need proof that the nation is right center, a position that spells doom for the Obama cult? Here is Chris Matthews saying same in his own inimitable way:

“Matthews was aware that Weiner’s behavior might not be as big of a deal in his home district of New York, but knew that around the country it played much worse. “If you’re a blue dog Democrat from a conservative culture part of the country . . . your life is getting difficult enough defending the East coast and the left coast Democratic party, they’re too far left,” Matthews said. From there he issued a stern warning to the Democratic party at large:

“If [Weiner] stays, [Democrats] never get the leadership [in the House] back. They never get the speakership back. Because the people in the rural areas of this country who are Christian, conservative, culturally – you can say ‘backward’ if you want – they don’t like this stuff.”
Chris Matthews Anthony Weiner | Weiner Resign | Video | Mediaite

"...backward..."???

2. A another couldn’t-be-more-Left-wing Democrat, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Reticent no longer, the Democratic Party hierarchy demanded on Saturday that Rep. Anthony Weiner resign for sending online material ranging from sexually suggestive to explicit to several women.

"This sordid affair has become an unacceptable distraction for Representative Weiner, his family, his constituents and the House," Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the party chairwoman, said in a written statement calling for the New York lawmaker to quit.”


Read more: Top Democrats: Weiner must go - seattlepi.com

3. So, what’s the story? Suddenly, the hallmark of the Left, what Daniel Patrick Moynihan labeled “defining deviancy down,” is no longer acceptable? Well, at least not when the election is on the line and the public is looking at the face of the political left….
What happened to the Clinton defense, it’s his private life, and has nothing to do with job performance….

Giving it up? A ‘come to Jesus’ moment? A jailhouse conversion?

4. And, ya’ mean that Teddy Kennedy wouldn’t be the ‘Liberal Lion’ today? That they would demand that Teddy 'quit'?

5. So, Coulter was wrong:
“…every Democrat who voted for Bill Clinton feels the need to defend duplicity, adultery, lying about adultery, sexual harassment, rape, perjury, obstruction of justice, kicking the can of global Islamofascism down the road for eight years, and so on.”

Who knew?

Your premise is flawed.

Your premise is that Liberal politicians appear to be acting more like Conservative politicians because of liberals/Democrats' current readiness to condemn one of their own.

The validity of that premise is based on the assumption that conservative politicians have a distinguished history of condemning their own that up until now differentiated them from liberals.

There is no such history, therefore, it is a baseless false claim to cite this situation as evidence that liberals are suddenly acting more like conservatives.

 

[Seawytch]

Huh... fuzzy math strikes again.

38 listed Dems (removing Foley) is more than 29 Republicans.

Who knew?

And on the republican side, I counted a minimum of 6 who left office voluntarily. I wonder how many of those libs rode it out... as it were?

Nah, just in a hurry and lost part of my list. Oh well...still made the point.

There were a few of my favs that got lost too. There was the President of the young Republicans group that went down on his friend while the guy was sleeping.

The best things with these GOP scandals is the hypocrisy. Beyond that, I really don't care whose zooming who...(as long as they are consenting adults, of course)

 

[PoliticalChic]

and? rightwingnut freaks like santorum don't play in new jersey. your point?

Morality.

That's my point.

Vaules, and which party, which political view doesn't have any.
Surely you understand that.

Values..is something the right wing sorely lacks.

What they don't lack is an overwhelming sense of self-righteousness..and a dire need to demonize those that aren't like them..or don't share the same beliefs.

Your posts are prime examples of this.

Obviously you neither understand my posts, nor the word 'example.'

But, as for your use of emoticons? Your single accomplishment.

 

[thereisnospoon]

and? rightwingnut freaks like santorum don't play in new jersey. your point?

Morality.

That's my point.

Vaules, and which party, which political view doesn't have any.
Surely you understand that.

Values..is something the right wing sorely lacks.

What they don't lack is an overwhelming sense of self-righteousness..and a dire need to demonize those that aren't like them..or don't share the same beliefs.

Your posts are prime examples of this.

Yeah. Ok Mr Substance.
Once again you've contributed so much to the discussion.

 

[Big Fitz]

The Palin emails prove I was right about her in September of 2008.

And Obamas past "Hanging around with Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright" proves that he is nothing more then what we thought he was, a marxist, domestic terrorist loving, America hating socialist.

It's mildly amusing that half the Right attacks Obama with descriptions like the one above,

and the other half mocks him for just carrying on Bush policies.

And yet... both are accurate critiques. Neither cancels the other out. Most conservatives were not happy with Bush after 2005 if the weren't already mad at him for NCLB and Medicare Part D.

 

[Big Fitz]

Huh... fuzzy math strikes again.

38 listed Dems (removing Foley) is more than 29 Republicans.

Who knew?

And on the republican side, I counted a minimum of 6 who left office voluntarily. I wonder how many of those libs rode it out... as it were?

Nah, just in a hurry and lost part of my list. Oh well...still made the point.

There were a few of my favs that got lost too. There was the President of the young Republicans group that went down on his friend while the guy was sleeping.

The best things with these GOP scandals is the hypocrisy. Beyond that, I really don't care whose zooming who...(as long as they are consenting adults, of course)

Well, expurgated version or not, I'll wait for the edit correction before I say, okay, my bad. Till then

The point remains that not a single one of those scumballs should ever have survived their scandal and been ALLOWED to be able to finish their term OR be re-elected. Marion Barry's re-election after serving time in prison, for instance is a travesty and illustrated a total lack of character, or exposed that racism and radical political stances overwhelm morality and decency in the vox populi that is Washington DC.

 

[Big Fitz]

Morality.

That's my point.

Vaules, and which party, which political view doesn't have any.
Surely you understand that.

Values..is something the right wing sorely lacks.

What they don't lack is an overwhelming sense of self-righteousness..and a dire need to demonize those that aren't like them..or don't share the same beliefs.

Your posts are prime examples of this.

Yeah. Ok Mr Substance.
Once again you've contributed so much to the discussion.

What? He has a word count. that's contributing... waste of bandwidth. What more do you want? Content and enlightenment? Sorry, they don't serve that in the liberal diner.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And Obamas past "Hanging around with Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright" proves that he is nothing more then what we thought he was, a marxist, domestic terrorist loving, America hating socialist.

It's mildly amusing that half the Right attacks Obama with descriptions like the one above,

and the other half mocks him for just carrying on Bush policies.

And yet... both are accurate critiques. Neither cancels the other out. Most conservatives were not happy with Bush after 2005 if the weren't already mad at him for NCLB and Medicare Part D.

Wrong. This is on my list of favorite rightwing myths. The myth is that most conservatives turned against Bush somewhere later in his presidency, you say 2005, okay, whenever.

The Truth?? Bush had a 72% approval rating among self-identified conservative Republicans, and a 50 - 43 advantage among conservatives in general...

...in December of 2008.

You might be conservative, and you might have turned against Bush at some point, but to say most conservatives did is simply false.

Conservative Republicans Still Widely Support Bush