The Demonetization of Detroit

[Harry Dresden]

No, unions are only half the problem. The other half is 50 years' worth of unremitting Leftwing Democrat rule with zero Conservative governance whatsoever. Sorry, but this thread deserves a slow painful death.

You forget the great things that Detroit did for this country. For example, Detroit was the key industrial supplier of World War II.

The 409, the GTO, The shelby mustang, the corvette, etc.

Rock and roll/motown music.

The Detroit pistons.

Rock N Roll?.....oh you mean Ted Nugent.....ok i got ya....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Communists that run the Unions and the Democrat Party targeted Detroit BECAUSE it was a shining symbol of American innovation, entrepreneurship and prosperity. That's the "progress" Progressive endorse

Now the chinese communists rule us.

you mean the Chinese Capitalist don't you?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Now the chinese communists rule us.

The Democrats? Yes, you're probably right. They've been doing so since they directed FDR to support Mao over Chek

Nixon opened our doors to china.

so was that a good thing?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Let's get real here.

Detroit's problem was that it was a one-industry town. That being the manufacture of automobiles and automotive parts.

A lot of that business went to Japan and Germany. Oh, the Germans and Japanese have unions in their auto-makers, too. In fact, the Unions in Germany and Japan even have a say in who the CEO's are. CEO's who don't make 8 figures when their companies go bankrupt.

Cleveland is in the same boat that Detroit is in, and guess what, Republicans have run that city from time to time. Doesn't matter. When you move your industry out of the country, you are going to have large swaths of empty city.

Yes lets get real. Cleveland last republican 1989

DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected
a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.

Have you ever been to Mississippi?

you ever been to El Centro Ca.?.....

 

[NLT]

7 U.S. Cities on the Verge of Bankruptcy >> Four Winds 10 - Truth Winds

All these cities are liberal bastions. Keep up the good work libtards.

 

[High_Gravity]

7 U.S. Cities on the Verge of Bankruptcy >> Four Winds 10 - Truth Winds

All these cities are liberal bastions. Keep up the good work libtards.

Hawaii is broke?

 

[GHook93]

The latest from the far right is the demonetization of Detroit.

Instead of solving the problem they use Detroit as a means to vilify the unions.

Never once do they mention globalization as the cause. There is also much racist rhetoric involved. It's the new negro darwinism from the radical right.

I get a kick out of the "let them eat cake commentators like George Will who exploits this tragedy.

An example. Detroit Is Dead. Long Live Oakland County - Businessweek

Why shouldn't Detroit be put in the spotlight as a foreshadow of what liberal politics, over-spending, over-regulation, Union corruption and Democratic rule has in hand for America?

 

[Snookie]

U.S. Debt Clock
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Federal Revenue brings in 2.7 trillion in taxes
Spending is over 3.5 trillion
The Federal Government is spending 1.2 trillion more than it takes in.
You can't spend more than you bring in by that large amount without eventually going bankrupt.
If we do go bankrupt there will be very little left for anything. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Foods Stamps, Welfare goes completely bye, bye.

All we need is some good old fashioned inflation.

Look at Japan after their surrender. A wheelbarrow of yen could not buy a cup of tea.

Money is only a theory. All we need to do is change the theory.

Or we could go back to trading tobacco and chickens and stuff like that.

 

[peach174]

No!
We just need to get the yahoo's in congress that are playing their stupid political games voted out of there.
Get some people in that will actually deal with the debt, instead of their stupid political games.
Ariz. is working on a petition to recall Senators McCain and Flake.
The two of them are not listening to the majority their constituents. We are going to try and fire them.
Colorado is doing several things about their yahoo's in their state too.

 

[Snookie]

No!
We just need to get the yahoo's in congress that are playing their stupid political games voted out of there.
Get some people in that will actually deal with the debt, instead of their stupid political games.
Ariz. is working on a petition to recall Senators McCain and Flake.
The two of them are not listening to the majority their constituents. We are going to try and fire them.
Colorado is doing several things about their yahoo's in their state too.

The republican obstructionists are ruining this country. They would gleefully allow our country to fail as long as they take obama with it.

They treat the people like pawns on a chessboard but they will protect the king.

 

[peach174]

No!
We just need to get the yahoo's in congress that are playing their stupid political games voted out of there.
Get some people in that will actually deal with the debt, instead of their stupid political games.
Ariz. is working on a petition to recall Senators McCain and Flake.
The two of them are not listening to the majority their constituents. We are going to try and fire them.
Colorado is doing several things about their yahoo's in their state too.

The republican obstructionists are ruining this country. They would gleefully allow our country to fail as long as they take obama with it.

They treat the people like pawns on a chessboard but they will protect the king.

You seem to forget how the Dems fought over any cuts.
They are both playing games.

 

[Snookie]

No!
We just need to get the yahoo's in congress that are playing their stupid political games voted out of there.
Get some people in that will actually deal with the debt, instead of their stupid political games.
Ariz. is working on a petition to recall Senators McCain and Flake.
The two of them are not listening to the majority their constituents. We are going to try and fire them.
Colorado is doing several things about their yahoo's in their state too.

The republican obstructionists are ruining this country. They would gleefully allow our country to fail as long as they take obama with it.

They treat the people like pawns on a chessboard but they will protect the king.

You seem to forget how the Dems fought over any cuts.
They are both playing games.

I agree.

 

[asterism]

The latest from the far right is the demonetization of Detroit.

Instead of solving the problem they use Detroit as a means to vilify the unions.

Never once do they mention globalization as the cause. There is also much racist rhetoric involved. It's the new negro darwinism from the radical right.

I get a kick out of the "let them eat cake commentators like George Will who exploits this tragedy.

An example. Detroit Is Dead. Long Live Oakland County - Businessweek

Globalization didn't cause the massive corruption that's been a fixture in Detroit for decades and it didn't cause the local government to grow despite the shrinking population and tax base.

You never mention the gap between the rich and the poor. Spoken like a true aristocrat.

The gap between the rich and the poor didn't cause the massive corruption of Detroit nor the constant increase in the size of government there with a shrinking population and tax base.

 

[squeeze berry]

The latest from the far right is the demonetization of Detroit.

Instead of solving the problem they use Detroit as a means to vilify the unions.

Never once do they mention globalization as the cause. There is also much racist rhetoric involved. It's the new negro darwinism from the radical right.

I get a kick out of the "let them eat cake commentators like George Will who exploits this tragedy.

An example. Detroit Is Dead. Long Live Oakland County - Businessweek

racist terms:

detroit
Chicago
golf
you people
master bedroom


the list keeps getting bigger

 

[asterism]

The Communists that run the Unions and the Democrat Party targeted Detroit BECAUSE it was a shining symbol of American innovation, entrepreneurship and prosperity. That's the "progress" Progressive endorse

The problem with you guys is that you say "Communist" like you are totally fucking serious.

Sorry, guy, we really did have a better country because the unions made sure working people got a fair cut of the pie.

We had nice homes and nice families and good values. Dad brought home a good wage and mom could stay home with the kids.

the thing about you conservatards is that you go on and on all day about how "moral" values are declining, but you don't link that at all with economic values declining.

Things were so great the Johnson had to create "The Great Society."

You're dreaming.

 

[Snookie]

The latest from the far right is the demonetization of Detroit.

Instead of solving the problem they use Detroit as a means to vilify the unions.

Never once do they mention globalization as the cause. There is also much racist rhetoric involved. It's the new negro darwinism from the radical right.

I get a kick out of the "let them eat cake commentators like George Will who exploits this tragedy.

An example. Detroit Is Dead. Long Live Oakland County - Businessweek

racist terms:

detroit
Chicago
golf
you people
master bedroom


the list keeps getting bigger

country club
Lobster
caviar
hockey
tea party
school vouchers
chitterlings, err, no, never mind.

 

[peach174]

Globalization didn't cause the massive corruption that's been a fixture in Detroit for decades and it didn't cause the local government to grow despite the shrinking population and tax base.

You never mention the gap between the rich and the poor. Spoken like a true aristocrat.

The gap between the rich and the poor didn't cause the massive corruption of Detroit nor the constant increase in the size of government there with a shrinking population and tax base.

And what caused the shrinking population?
The manufacturing industry left.
Why?
They left because the cost of doing business was high. Unions forced costs up, but even the union pay scales might not have led to Detroit’s decline, after all, other cities with union manufacturing have been in decline, but not the decline Detroit has seen. The difference is that city and state taxes as well as regulations and city codes in Detroit are higher than other states and cities. When the business left, the city didn’t reduce taxes, they increased them to keep up their benefits and infrastructure. As more businesses fled the high taxes and regulations of the state and city, the tax base crumbled and the infrastructure crumbled. Businesses didn’t leave because the infrastructure, parks, etc. became worse and were reduced. Businesses left because the costs of doing business would not support profits—they could simply make more money in another location.

 

[squeeze berry]

The latest from the far right is the demonetization of Detroit.

Instead of solving the problem they use Detroit as a means to vilify the unions.

Never once do they mention globalization as the cause. There is also much racist rhetoric involved. It's the new negro darwinism from the radical right.

I get a kick out of the "let them eat cake commentators like George Will who exploits this tragedy.

An example. Detroit Is Dead. Long Live Oakland County - Businessweek

racist terms:

detroit
Chicago
golf
you people
master bedroom


the list keeps getting bigger

country club
Lobster
caviar
hockey
tea party
school vouchers
chitterlings, err, no, never mind.

kkk
gop
conservative
right winger
racist
bigot
oppressor

 

[Snookie]

You never mention the gap between the rich and the poor. Spoken like a true aristocrat.

The gap between the rich and the poor didn't cause the massive corruption of Detroit nor the constant increase in the size of government there with a shrinking population and tax base.

And what caused the shrinking population?
The manufacturing industry left.
Why?
They left because the cost of doing business was high. Unions forced costs up, but even the union pay scales might not have led to Detroit’s decline, after all, other cities with union manufacturing have been in decline, but not the decline Detroit has seen. The difference is that city and state taxes as well as regulations and city codes in Detroit are higher than other states and cities. When the business left, the city didn’t reduce taxes, they increased them to keep up their benefits and infrastructure. As more businesses fled the high taxes and regulations of the state and city, the tax base crumbled and the infrastructure crumbled. Businesses didn’t leave because the infrastructure, parks, etc. became worse and were reduced. Businesses left because the costs of doing business would not support profits—they could simply make more money in another location.

The hell with ethics, honor, and integrity. The bottom line is the new God.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Nixon opened our doors to china.

Your understanding of history is infintile.

FDR took the advise of Communist spies and abandoned Chek in favor of one of history's two biggest Mass murderers, Mao (FDR's "Uncle" Joe being the other).

I think you need to check your history.

FDR died in 1945. The communists didn't win until 1949. No one abandoned Chiang Kai-shek. In fact, billions were spent to prop him up. The only thing FDR did was emphasize that beating Japan was a little higher on the priority list than wiping out the last of Mao's forces.

Here's the dirty little secret about Chiang. The guy was a Nazi. In fact, he was such a fascist Hitler and Mussolini seriously considered inviting him to join the Axis instead of inviting Japan. Then they figured Japan was the better bet.

Also, like most Americans, you tend to overemphasize our importance. In fact, the Russians and the Chinese had a lot more to do with beating the Axis than we did.

No, actually...American industry won the war. This is not debatable by anyone with even a tenuous grasp of the facts.