The Dirty Little Secret: Most Gay Couples Aren't Monogamous

[daws101]

The queers claimed the wanted to legalize gay marriage so they could participate in a committed relationship. The truth is they only wanted the government benefits and a veneer of respectability that their relationships don't merit.
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Bigots have always claimed that gays only wanted to get married for benefits- but really all you want to deny is to continue to discriminate against homosexuals.

Lets look at the lead plaintiffs in the land mark cases ending marriage discrimination:

Edith Windsor- with her wife for 40 years- quit her job to take care of her wife when she became ill- and stayed by her side until the end.

Edith Windsor And Thea Spyer s Love Story Is One For The Ages

In her honor, Time's Deputy Photo Editor, Paul Moakley, put together a wonderful photo montage of Windsor's relationship with late wife Thea Spyer -- a love story that spanned more than 40 years. (Watch it above)

The pair got engaged in 1967 and were together until Spyer's death in 2009. In the interview, Windsor opens up about how Spyer popped the question at a time when same-sex relationships were still very much taboo.

Jim Obergefell- with his husband for 20 years- and stood by him as he slowly died of ALS
John Arthur Terminally Ill Gay Man Marries Partner Jim Obergefell On Airport Tarmac
A terminally-ill Ohio man got his lifelong wish over the weekend, tying the knot with his partner of two decades -- but it wasn't an easy journey.

Cincinnati.com shares the heartwarming story of John Arthur, who is bedridden with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), a progressive neurological disease that robs patients of their ability to walk, talk and eventually breathe. After the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), Arthur and his partner Jim Obergefell decided they wanted to finally wed, but travel would be necessary as their native Ohio does not currently permit same-sex marriage.

After ruling out New York, California and Washington due to either distance or legislative issues, they opted for a destination wedding in Baltimore, as the state of Maryland required only one partner to come for a marriage license and a 48-hour waiting period.

Arthur, who has reportedly been unable to leave home since March, and Obergefell received donations from friends, family and other connections to cover the cost of a $12,700 chartered, medically-equipped private plane. The couple’s nuptials were partially made possible by Crossroads Hospice, which offers the gift of "a perfect day" to its terminally-iill patients.


Now let us compare to current GOP candidate- Donald Trump
First wife- married for 15 years- 3 kids
Second wife- married for 6 years- 1 kid
Third wife- married for 10 years- 1 kid

The dirty little not secret is that bigot like you just hate homosexuals.

Bigots have always claimed that gays only wanted to get married for benefits- but really all you want to deny is to continue to discriminate against homosexuals.

Lets look at the lead plaintiffs in the land mark cases ending marriage discrimination:

Edith Windsor- with her wife for 40 years- quit her job to take care of her wife when she became ill- and stayed by her side until the end.

Edith Windsor And Thea Spyer s Love Story Is One For The Ages

In her honor, Time's Deputy Photo Editor, Paul Moakley, put together a wonderful photo montage of Windsor's relationship with late wife Thea Spyer -- a love story that spanned more than 40 years. (Watch it above)

The pair got engaged in 1967 and were together until Spyer's death in 2009. In the interview, Windsor opens up about how Spyer popped the question at a time when same-sex relationships were still very much taboo.

Jim Obergefell- with his husband for 20 years- and stood by him as he slowly died of ALS
John Arthur Terminally Ill Gay Man Marries Partner Jim Obergefell On Airport Tarmac
A terminally-ill Ohio man got his lifelong wish over the weekend, tying the knot with his partner of two decades -- but it wasn't an easy journey.

Cincinnati.com shares the heartwarming story of John Arthur, who is bedridden with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), a progressive neurological disease that robs patients of their ability to walk, talk and eventually breathe. After the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), Arthur and his partner Jim Obergefell decided they wanted to finally wed, but travel would be necessary as their native Ohio does not currently permit same-sex marriage.

After ruling out New York, California and Washington due to either distance or legislative issues, they opted for a destination wedding in Baltimore, as the state of Maryland required only one partner to come for a marriage license and a 48-hour waiting period.

Arthur, who has reportedly been unable to leave home since March, and Obergefell received donations from friends, family and other connections to cover the cost of a $12,700 chartered, medically-equipped private plane. The couple’s nuptials were partially made possible by Crossroads Hospice, which offers the gift of "a perfect day" to its terminally-iill patients.


Now let us compare to current GOP candidate- Donald Trump
First wife- married for 15 years- 3 kids
Second wife- married for 6 years- 1 kid
Third wife- married for 10 years- 1 kid

The dirty little not secret is that bigot like you just hate homosexuals.

You make a good case for heterosexual marriage not setting the bar very high. My wife and I divorced briefly and then remarried, but we added to a terrible statistic on the survivability of marriage. We told our lady friends we hope they do better than us when they marry this month and if the marriage is ever in trouble to please talk to us. I sincerely hope they get it right where we messed up. That's what any decent person would hope for.

no wonder you have no friends///

GFY skid mark. Ignored.

There's that RW greeting again.

Christian too!

 

[daws101]

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cannot refute so you dodge!

Refute a stat you made up out thin air?

ROFL

You can't support your claim.

it supports itself
but
18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda Southern Poverty Law Center

List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No results found for anti hetrosexual organizations

As always I win......

 

[daws101]

The queers claimed the wanted to legalize gay marriage so they could participate in a committed relationship. The truth is they only wanted the government benefits and a veneer of respectability that their relationships don't merit.

Most gay couples aren t monogamous Will straight couples go monogamish

The dirty little secret about gay marriage: Most gay couples are not monogamous. We have come to accept lately, partly thanks to Liza Mundy’s excellent recent cover story in the Atlantic and partly because we desperately need something to make the drooping institution of heterosexual marriage seem vibrant again, that gay marriage has something to teach us, that gay couples provide a model for marriages that are more egalitarian and less burdened by the old gender roles that are weighing marriage down these days.

But the thorny part of the gay marriage experiment is sex, and more precisely, monogamous sex. Mundy writes about an old study from the '80s that found that gay couples were extremely likely to have had sex outside their relationship—82 percent did. That was before AIDS and the great matrimony craze in the gay community. She also tells the story of Dan Savage, who started out wanting to be monogamous until he and his partner had kids, and then they loosened up on that in order to make their union last. “Monogamish” is what he calls his new model. But as Mundy asks, can anyone out there imagine a husband proposing that same deal to his pregnant wife?

A long Gawker story last week explored this problem in greater detail. In the fight for marriage equality, the gay rights movement has put forth couples that look like straight ones, together forever, loyal, sharing assets. But what no one wants to talk about is that they don’t necessarily represent the norm:

"The Gay Couples Study out of San Francisco State University—which, in following over 500 gay couples over many years is the largest on-going study of its kind—has found that about half of all couples have sex with someone other than their partner, with their partner knowing."​

Another stupid thread intended to smear gays. So what if they are, or may be less monogamous than heterosexuals? What the hell does that have to do wit commitment? There are many heterosexual couples who are not monogamous and are very committed to the relationship. My wife and I are one example. Married 30 years and non monogamous! You might want to google the Polyamory Society.

What does monogamy have to do with commitment?

You're too stupid to bother arguing with.

 

[Uncensored2008]

it supports itself
but
18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda Southern Poverty Law Center

List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No results found for anti hetrosexual organizations

As always I win......

The hate group SPLC spewing bigotry in no way support the claim you made up that "a greater percentage of heterosexuals hate homosexuals that the vice versa."

The blind hate of the Klan with a Tan is meaningless to begin with - but even the Klan claims fail to support the stat that you flat out made up.

 

[daws101]

it supports itself
but
18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda Southern Poverty Law Center

List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No results found for anti hetrosexual organizations

As always I win......

The hate group SPLC spewing bigotry in no way support the claim you made up that "a greater percentage of heterosexuals hate homosexuals that the vice versa."

The blind hate of the Klan with a Tan is meaningless to begin with - but even the Klan claims fail to support the stat that you flat out made up.

golly how'd I know you attempt to rationalize and epically fail !?
you're full of shit own it!

 

[rdean]

The queers claimed the wanted to legalize gay marriage so they could participate in a committed relationship. The truth is they only wanted the government benefits and a veneer of respectability that their relationships don't merit.

Most gay couples aren t monogamous Will straight couples go monogamish

The dirty little secret about gay marriage: Most gay couples are not monogamous. We have come to accept lately, partly thanks to Liza Mundy’s excellent recent cover story in the Atlantic and partly because we desperately need something to make the drooping institution of heterosexual marriage seem vibrant again, that gay marriage has something to teach us, that gay couples provide a model for marriages that are more egalitarian and less burdened by the old gender roles that are weighing marriage down these days.

But the thorny part of the gay marriage experiment is sex, and more precisely, monogamous sex. Mundy writes about an old study from the '80s that found that gay couples were extremely likely to have had sex outside their relationship—82 percent did. That was before AIDS and the great matrimony craze in the gay community. She also tells the story of Dan Savage, who started out wanting to be monogamous until he and his partner had kids, and then they loosened up on that in order to make their union last. “Monogamish” is what he calls his new model. But as Mundy asks, can anyone out there imagine a husband proposing that same deal to his pregnant wife?

A long Gawker story last week explored this problem in greater detail. In the fight for marriage equality, the gay rights movement has put forth couples that look like straight ones, together forever, loyal, sharing assets. But what no one wants to talk about is that they don’t necessarily represent the norm:

"The Gay Couples Study out of San Francisco State University—which, in following over 500 gay couples over many years is the largest on-going study of its kind—has found that about half of all couples have sex with someone other than their partner, with their partner knowing."​

How do you explain this?

Google

 

[g5000]

The Dirty Little Secret: Most Gay Couples Aren't Monogamous


There. Fixed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

golly how'd I know you attempt to rationalize and epically fail !?
you're full of shit own it!

You lied, you got caught, so you figured that flinging irrelevant shit would save you.

Your link to the Klan site says nothing of statistical instances of hatred by homosexuals toward normal people - it is just the typical hate that SPLC is known for - mindless bigotry, nothing more.

So again, you lied, and when called on it linked to irrelevance.

 

[daws101]

golly how'd I know you attempt to rationalize and epically fail !?
you're full of shit own it!

You lied, you got caught, so you figured that flinging irrelevant shit would save you.

Your link to the Klan site says nothing of statistical instances of hatred by homosexuals toward normal people - it is just the typical hate that SPLC is known for - mindless bigotry, nothing more.

So again, you lied, and when called on it linked to irrelevance.

false I gave a list of know straight gay hating groups from two credible sources.
your view on what's relative is laughable!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

it supports itself
but
18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda Southern Poverty Law Center

List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No results found for anti hetrosexual organizations

As always I win......

The hate group SPLC spewing bigotry in no way support the claim you made up that "a greater percentage of heterosexuals hate homosexuals that the vice versa."

The blind hate of the Klan with a Tan is meaningless to begin with - but even the Klan claims fail to support the stat that you flat out made up.

Do you really want to talk about who the hate mongers are, dude?

Don't Listen To Same-Sex Marriage Foes: It Was Always About Hating On The Gays Don t Listen To Same-Sex Marriage Foes It Was Always About Hating On The Gays Constitutional Accountability Center


Talking Points Memo

Thursday, June 18, 2015

By TIERNEY SNEED

Selected excerpts:

The leading opponents of same-sex marriage have been attempting to re-write recent American history, where decades of sneering public attacks on gays and lesbians, condemnations of their "lifestyle," and blaming them for a decline of America's moral virtue are quietly forgotten.


Their argument, made in front of the Supreme Court, no less, is that gay marriage bans are not motivated by prejudice toward gays and lesbians, but by a more noble if newfound purpose


Sweeping cultural change coupled with past decisions by the Supreme Court have limited the options the states who continue to ban same-sex marriage have to defend those prohibitions. If gay couples are kept from marrying because of state-sanctioned "animus" -- an intent to deny certain people their rights -- there is little escaping a constitutional violation.

Yes, now it is to all be forgotten. NOW the gays who are just fighting for their rights are those who are perpetrating the hate. That is horseshit!

"[T]he State's whole point is that we're not drawing distinctions based on the identity, the orientation, or the choices of anyone," John J. Bursch, the solicitor general of Michigan, said during the oral arguments in the case, Obergefell v. Hodges. "The State has drawn lines, the way the government has always done, to solve a specific problem. It's not meant to exclude."


"The states’ arguments don’t pass the straight face test, no pun intended," Judith Schaeffer, vice president of Constitutional Accountability Center, a D.C.-based legal organization, said in an interview with TPM. "These are ridiculous arguments that are being made to cover up the fact that these discriminatory laws are motivated by a desire to keep gay people out of this important legal relationship."


To say same-sex marriage bans were never meant to "exclude" anyone is to ignore years of anti-gay sentiments -- vitriolic posters and inflammatory commentary -- not to mention the comments made by elected officials when defending their opposition to same-sex marriage and enacting gay marriage bans.

 

[daws101]

Not really unh

it supports itself
but
18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda Southern Poverty Law Center

List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No results found for anti hetrosexual organizations

As always I win......

The hate group SPLC spewing bigotry in no way support the claim you made up that "a greater percentage of heterosexuals hate homosexuals that the vice versa."

The blind hate of the Klan with a Tan is meaningless to begin with - but even the Klan claims fail to support the stat that you flat out made up.

Do you really want to talk about who the hate mongers are, dude?

Don't Listen To Same-Sex Marriage Foes: It Was Always About Hating On The Gays Don t Listen To Same-Sex Marriage Foes It Was Always About Hating On The Gays Constitutional Accountability Center


Talking Points Memo

Thursday, June 18, 2015

By TIERNEY SNEED

Selected excerpts:

The leading opponents of same-sex marriage have been attempting to re-write recent American history, where decades of sneering public attacks on gays and lesbians, condemnations of their "lifestyle," and blaming them for a decline of America's moral virtue are quietly forgotten.


Their argument, made in front of the Supreme Court, no less, is that gay marriage bans are not motivated by prejudice toward gays and lesbians, but by a more noble if newfound purpose


Sweeping cultural change coupled with past decisions by the Supreme Court have limited the options the states who continue to ban same-sex marriage have to defend those prohibitions. If gay couples are kept from marrying because of state-sanctioned "animus" -- an intent to deny certain people their rights -- there is little escaping a constitutional violation.

Yes, now it is to all be forgotten. NOW the gays who are just fighting for their rights are those who are perpetrating the hate. That is horseshit!

"[T]he State's whole point is that we're not drawing distinctions based on the identity, the orientation, or the choices of anyone," John J. Bursch, the solicitor general of Michigan, said during the oral arguments in the case, Obergefell v. Hodges. "The State has drawn lines, the way the government has always done, to solve a specific problem. It's not meant to exclude."


"The states’ arguments don’t pass the straight face test, no pun intended," Judith Schaeffer, vice president of Constitutional Accountability Center, a D.C.-based legal organization, said in an interview with TPM. "These are ridiculous arguments that are being made to cover up the fact that these discriminatory laws are motivated by a desire to keep gay people out of this important legal relationship."


To say same-sex marriage bans were never meant to "exclude" anyone is to ignore years of anti-gay sentiments -- vitriolic posters and inflammatory commentary -- not to mention the comments made by elected officials when defending their opposition to same-sex marriage and enacting gay marriage bans.

Not really unhinged has a real problem with reality when he calls you a Nazi or a commie
it's the best you can hope for

e

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The queers claimed the wanted to legalize gay marriage so they could participate in a committed relationship. The truth is they only wanted the government benefits and a veneer of respectability that their relationships don't merit.

Most gay couples aren t monogamous Will straight couples go monogamish

The dirty little secret about gay marriage: Most gay couples are not monogamous. We have come to accept lately, partly thanks to Liza Mundy’s excellent recent cover story in the Atlantic and partly because we desperately need something to make the drooping institution of heterosexual marriage seem vibrant again, that gay marriage has something to teach us, that gay couples provide a model for marriages that are more egalitarian and less burdened by the old gender roles that are weighing marriage down these days.

But the thorny part of the gay marriage experiment is sex, and more precisely, monogamous sex. Mundy writes about an old study from the '80s that found that gay couples were extremely likely to have had sex outside their relationship—82 percent did. That was before AIDS and the great matrimony craze in the gay community. She also tells the story of Dan Savage, who started out wanting to be monogamous until he and his partner had kids, and then they loosened up on that in order to make their union last. “Monogamish” is what he calls his new model. But as Mundy asks, can anyone out there imagine a husband proposing that same deal to his pregnant wife?

A long Gawker story last week explored this problem in greater detail. In the fight for marriage equality, the gay rights movement has put forth couples that look like straight ones, together forever, loyal, sharing assets. But what no one wants to talk about is that they don’t necessarily represent the norm:

"The Gay Couples Study out of San Francisco State University—which, in following over 500 gay couples over many years is the largest on-going study of its kind—has found that about half of all couples have sex with someone other than their partner, with their partner knowing."​

Before you start something like this you, should brush up on the subject matter so that you at least give the appearance of knowing what you’re talking about. While there may be a modicum of truth to the premise, it is presented out of context and obviously intended to disparage those nasty gays. The fact that it is a complex issue that we are just beginning to gat a handle on seems to be lost on you and off those who dumb it down and sift out the negative, or what you construe and present as negative while ignoring the positive aspects.

If you dare to read this information, you might find that you are in for a nasty little surprise - specifically that your post is horseshit propaganda and it is not related to the longevity and validity of gay relationships.

The Future Impact of Same-Sex Marriage: More Questions Than Answers By Nan D. Hunter October 2012 The greatest potential for changes in the social meaning of marriage will arise in three areas for which there is empirical evidence of significant differences between gay and straight couples: division of household labor, sexual exclusivity & childrearing. While the number of same-sex couples in the population is too small to produce significant change in overall patterns of behavior, the issue of gay marriage has generated so much attention and debate that a mixed process of gay assimilation to and effect on the social meaning of marriage is a reasonable expectation. - See more at:


marriage AND DIVORCE Search Results Williams Institute

In the second area of difference, a large volume of research indicates that
there is a significant divergence from the norm by gay male partners in practices
related to sexual exclusivity. Gay male relationships have tended to be distinctive
in two respects. First, male partners report that monogamy has less importance
in their relationships and that openness to other sexual partners is often
negotiated within the couple.79 Second, gay male relationships tend to last
longer than those of lesbian partners.80 There is some indication in recent data
that monogamy between male partners has increased relative to different-sex or
lesbian couples.81 It is unclear whether the newer data reflect a reaction to the
risk of HIV infection, a permanent shift in behavior, or characteristics of the
study sample.82 Even with this change, there is still a significant, although
perhaps declining, difference between the frequency of enduring open relationships
in gay male couples compared to other couples.83

Administrative data from the states that recognized marriage and other relationship statuses for same-sex couples in early 2014 show that female couples are more likely to formalize their relationships than male couples; and that same-sex couples overall dissolve their legal relationships at a lower rate than different-sex couples. The data also suggest that the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in the Windsor case in 2013 likely contributed to a marked increase in the number of same-sex couples marrying.

In addition…… What are the differences between gay couples and straight ones, and do gay couples hold the keys to happy long lasting love? It would appear to be so:

Are gay and lesbian relationships healthier and happier than straight ones? Recent studies indicate this may be the case. What are the differences between gay couples and straight ones, and do gay couples hold the keys to happy long lasting love?

Research done by psychologist Robert-Jay Green, executive director of Rockway Institute, finds there are two key factors which promote healthier relationships in gay and lesbian couples: greater flexibility in gender roles and more equal division of parenting and household tasks.


http://www.blogher.com/are-gay-relationships-happier-and-healthier-straight-ones

 

[bendog]

Something like 3% of married straights have something on the side ... AT THIS VERY MOMENT. LOL

 

[The Rabbi]

The queers claimed the wanted to legalize gay marriage so they could participate in a committed relationship. The truth is they only wanted the government benefits and a veneer of respectability that their relationships don't merit.

Most gay couples aren t monogamous Will straight couples go monogamish

The dirty little secret about gay marriage: Most gay couples are not monogamous. We have come to accept lately, partly thanks to Liza Mundy’s excellent recent cover story in the Atlantic and partly because we desperately need something to make the drooping institution of heterosexual marriage seem vibrant again, that gay marriage has something to teach us, that gay couples provide a model for marriages that are more egalitarian and less burdened by the old gender roles that are weighing marriage down these days.

But the thorny part of the gay marriage experiment is sex, and more precisely, monogamous sex. Mundy writes about an old study from the '80s that found that gay couples were extremely likely to have had sex outside their relationship—82 percent did. That was before AIDS and the great matrimony craze in the gay community. She also tells the story of Dan Savage, who started out wanting to be monogamous until he and his partner had kids, and then they loosened up on that in order to make their union last. “Monogamish” is what he calls his new model. But as Mundy asks, can anyone out there imagine a husband proposing that same deal to his pregnant wife?

A long Gawker story last week explored this problem in greater detail. In the fight for marriage equality, the gay rights movement has put forth couples that look like straight ones, together forever, loyal, sharing assets. But what no one wants to talk about is that they don’t necessarily represent the norm:

"The Gay Couples Study out of San Francisco State University—which, in following over 500 gay couples over many years is the largest on-going study of its kind—has found that about half of all couples have sex with someone other than their partner, with their partner knowing."​

Before you start something like this you, should brush up on the subject matter so that you at least give the appearance of knowing what you’re talking about. While there may be a modicum of truth to the premise, it is presented out of context and obviously intended to disparage those nasty gays. The fact that it is a complex issue that we are just beginning to gat a handle on seems to be lost on you and off those who dumb it down and sift out the negative, or what you construe and present as negative while ignoring the positive aspects.

If you dare to read this information, you might find that you are in for a nasty little surprise - specifically that your post is horseshit propaganda and it is not related to the longevity and validity of gay relationships.

I realize you believe you know everything about everything. But the truth is you know nothing at all. Your post proves it as it does nothing to refute the facts in the OP. And no, extrapolating from your own gay relationship is not an argument.

 

[The Rabbi]

Something like 3% of married straights have something on the side ... AT THIS VERY MOMENT. LOL

And? What's your point? The point here is that the idea that gays want to live in monogamous married bliss is merely media propaganda. The truth of gay relationships is that they are nothing like traditional marriages.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The queers claimed the wanted to legalize gay marriage so they could participate in a committed relationship. The truth is they only wanted the government benefits and a veneer of respectability that their relationships don't merit.

Most gay couples aren t monogamous Will straight couples go monogamish

The dirty little secret about gay marriage: Most gay couples are not monogamous. We have come to accept lately, partly thanks to Liza Mundy’s excellent recent cover story in the Atlantic and partly because we desperately need something to make the drooping institution of heterosexual marriage seem vibrant again, that gay marriage has something to teach us, that gay couples provide a model for marriages that are more egalitarian and less burdened by the old gender roles that are weighing marriage down these days.

But the thorny part of the gay marriage experiment is sex, and more precisely, monogamous sex. Mundy writes about an old study from the '80s that found that gay couples were extremely likely to have had sex outside their relationship—82 percent did. That was before AIDS and the great matrimony craze in the gay community. She also tells the story of Dan Savage, who started out wanting to be monogamous until he and his partner had kids, and then they loosened up on that in order to make their union last. “Monogamish” is what he calls his new model. But as Mundy asks, can anyone out there imagine a husband proposing that same deal to his pregnant wife?

A long Gawker story last week explored this problem in greater detail. In the fight for marriage equality, the gay rights movement has put forth couples that look like straight ones, together forever, loyal, sharing assets. But what no one wants to talk about is that they don’t necessarily represent the norm:

"The Gay Couples Study out of San Francisco State University—which, in following over 500 gay couples over many years is the largest on-going study of its kind—has found that about half of all couples have sex with someone other than their partner, with their partner knowing."​

Before you start something like this you, should brush up on the subject matter so that you at least give the appearance of knowing what you’re talking about. While there may be a modicum of truth to the premise, it is presented out of context and obviously intended to disparage those nasty gays. The fact that it is a complex issue that we are just beginning to gat a handle on seems to be lost on you and off those who dumb it down and sift out the negative, or what you construe and present as negative while ignoring the positive aspects.

If you dare to read this information, you might find that you are in for a nasty little surprise - specifically that your post is horseshit propaganda and it is not related to the longevity and validity of gay relationships.

I realize you believe you know everything about everything. But the truth is you know nothing at all. Your post proves it as it does nothing to refute the facts in the OP. And no, extrapolating from your own gay relationship is not an argument.

If you had any reading comprehension ability, you would know that I was not trying to refute the OP. I was putting it ion context. You too might want to read the articles that I posted from the Williams Institute so that you might actually know something instead of wallowing in the delusion that you are well informed and anyone who disagrees with you is stupid

 

[Bombur]

Something like 3% of married straights have something on the side ... AT THIS VERY MOMENT. LOL

And? What's your point? The point here is that the idea that gays want to live in monogamous married bliss is merely media propaganda. The truth of gay relationships is that they are nothing like traditional marriages.

Actually the idea is that they want the freedom to try.

Some people like yourself just want to find lame excuses to deny them this basic freedom out of your own ignorance and hate.

 

[bendog]

Something like 3% of married straights have something on the side ... AT THIS VERY MOMENT. LOL

And? What's your point? The point here is that the idea that gays want to live in monogamous married bliss is merely media propaganda. The truth of gay relationships is that they are nothing like traditional marriages.

Oh, hey I think the gays and straights should have the freedom of all civil laws benefitting married couples, and still screw their brains out like rabbits with other folks .... if they want to. So long as it's with adult humans.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Something like 3% of married straights have something on the side ... AT THIS VERY MOMENT. LOL

And? What's your point? The point here is that the idea that gays want to live in monogamous married bliss is merely media propaganda. The truth of gay relationships is that they are nothing like traditional marriages.

Read post 212 and learn. So what if they are not exactly the same? What do you conclude from that? Heterosexual couples from different cultural or religious traditions are not the same either. Is there some "sameness test" to determine which relationships are valid and worthy of recognition?

 

[bendog]

Something like 3% of married straights have something on the side ... AT THIS VERY MOMENT. LOL

And? What's your point? The point here is that the idea that gays want to live in monogamous married bliss is merely media propaganda. The truth of gay relationships is that they are nothing like traditional marriages.

Oh, hey I think the gays and straights should have the freedom of all civil laws benefitting married couples, and still screw their brains out like rabbits with other folks .... if they want to. So long as it's with adult humans.