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The best way to ensure you are not lumped in with the radicals is to condemn them often and loudly. That isn't done.
Link?
No..... didn't think so.
Muslims are the ones actual most of the fighting against Islamic extremist. The extremist are killing more Muslims than non-Muslim.Well, let's see some. Out of the billion plus muslims, if the majority of them oppose the murdering bastards that commit acts of terrorism and have condemned them, you should be able to post about 10,000 videos. How about 10?Pretty sure they do, unless you're blind.Then the ones who aren't should step up to the plate and condemn the ones who are making their lives miserable.Muslims, like blacks, are responsible for the image the US has of them.
Not to say that's justified in all cases but that is reality.
Firstly. Your point.
Muslims are responsible for the image the US has of them. Yes, in part this is true. However not ALL MUSLIMS are responsible for this. Some Muslims are. Why should ALL Muslims be responsible for this image that some have made.
Secondly, Bush helped to make this image, he helped to spread this image.
Do 6 million Syrian refugees count?
What's life like in Muslim countries?
What's the point here?
I don't like Islam. I also don't like Christianity. Doesn't mean I wouldn't stand up for people from both religions to have freedoms, rights, and the chance to just get on with their life.
What's life like in Muslim countries?
Muslims are the ones actual most of the fighting against Islamic extremist. The extremist are killing more Muslims than non-Muslim.Well, let's see some. Out of the billion plus muslims, if the majority of them oppose the murdering bastards that commit acts of terrorism and have condemned them, you should be able to post about 10,000 videos. How about 10?Pretty sure they do, unless you're blind.Then the ones who aren't should step up to the plate and condemn the ones who are making their lives miserable.Firstly. Your point.
Muslims are responsible for the image the US has of them. Yes, in part this is true. However not ALL MUSLIMS are responsible for this. Some Muslims are. Why should ALL Muslims be responsible for this image that some have made.
Secondly, Bush helped to make this image, he helped to spread this image.
Do 6 million Syrian refugees count?
Disagree.What's life like in Muslim countries?
What's the point here?
I don't like Islam. I also don't like Christianity. Doesn't mean I wouldn't stand up for people from both religions to have freedoms, rights, and the chance to just get on with their life.
While I agree with you for the most part, I do believe we should be careful about how many Muslims we allow into the US. Europe is facing a huge problem because of the increasing Muslim population. To ignore the potential problems that Muslims can bring to a country, all we need do is look at Lebanon. Europe could very well find itself in civil war with Muslims within the next two or three generations. When Muslims are a small minority, they do well within whatever society they live, but when they become the majority or get close to being the majority, then they want to turn that society into their own little caliphate.
You don't provide a link to prove a negative. You provide a link proving they are condemning them. CAIR is on TV often crying about how others are discriminating against them. Outlawing Oktoberfest in Germany is the most recent outrage they attempt to do.The best way to ensure you are not lumped in with the radicals is to condemn them often and loudly. That isn't done.
Link?
No..... didn't think so.
What spread the image was video of planes crashing into the Twin Towers. Not to mention the countless other terrorist attacks by young Muslim males.
The best way to ensure you are not lumped in with the radicals is to condemn them often and loudly. That isn't done. Instead, we have Muslim organizations, like CAIR, whose sole purpose it is to push the Muslim agenda. They claim to reach out to improve relations, but all of their goals have to do with others accepting Muslims and not the other way around. There have been complaints about people flying American flags on their property and many Muslims have claimed to be offended by that.
I agree with Carson about not wanting a Muslim president. Since the peaceful ones don't bother to separate themselves from the radicals, we have no idea just how devout some are or what they believe. We see women mistreated by the supposed peaceful Muslims, which alone should disqualify anyone from becoming a leader of this country. How can someone represent ALL the people when they believe women don't have the same rights as men? Some of the 'peaceful' Muslims, including one on these boards, claims that women are given what they need by the Muslim men. That means they do not have the same rights as men, only what the men choose to give them.
Peaceful Muslims also demand that women cover their faces for legal IDs and driver's licenses and even mug shots if they get arrested. How would that work to have a president who demands that Muslims not be held to our laws?
We've seen the treatment of women, Christians and gays in Muslim countries. The ones doing the torturing and killing have the upper hand in many places. Either there are far more radicalized Muslims that previously believed or it's common for devout Muslims to treat infidels, women and gays as if they are lesser beings.
I cannot get past the way Muslims treat women. The religion dictates that women hide their bodies as if it's something to be ashamed of. That is insane and the women who have managed to break free from the religion say it's an oppressive hell being owned by Muslim men.
In the first half of the 20th century, is was the blacks. In second half of the 20th century it was the communists. And in 1st half of the 21st century it's the Muslims. Since the best way to avoid being a scapegoat is to find one, there will always be one.Columbia Heights students walk out over Facebook post about Muslims
Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim
"We have a problem in this country. It's called Muslims," said the first man Trump called on to ask a question. "We know our current president is one. You know he's not even an American."
Ahmed Mohamed, Muslim teen cuffed over clock mistaken for bomb, still suspended from school
"Mohamed will not be charged with possessing a hoax bomb because there's no evidence the 14-year-old meant to cause alarm Monday at MacArthur High School in the Dallas suburb of Irving, according to police Chief Larry Boyd."
Since 9/11 Muslims have been having a hard time in the US. The reasons are clear, Bush wanted to make a new Common Enemy, the demise of the USSR left a gaping hole in the right wing "be tough on anything" policy.
In the past just calling someone a Communist was as bad as it got, now it's calling someone a Muslim. You want to get at Obama because you don't like him? Just call him a Muslim. It's simple, so simple even a redneck who managed to pass grade 2 could do it. It doesn't take brains.
And the whole while with ISIS going around killing and apparently this being really important for the citizens of the US, as opposed to, say, the Civil War in DRC or other such places.
Some Muslims are bad. Some Christians are bad. But by vilifying ALL Muslims people are essentially giving the right exactly what they want. People criticise Obama's foreign policy, it hasn't been amazing, but he's pulled back from the vilification of Muslims, and the need for the right to make Muslims the problem (and therefore the solution).
What spread the image was video of planes crashing into the Twin Towers. Not to mention the countless other terrorist attacks by young Muslim males.
The best way to ensure you are not lumped in with the radicals is to condemn them often and loudly. That isn't done. Instead, we have Muslim organizations, like CAIR, whose sole purpose it is to push the Muslim agenda. They claim to reach out to improve relations, but all of their goals have to do with others accepting Muslims and not the other way around. There have been complaints about people flying American flags on their property and many Muslims have claimed to be offended by that.
I agree with Carson about not wanting a Muslim president. Since the peaceful ones don't bother to separate themselves from the radicals, we have no idea just how devout some are or what they believe. We see women mistreated by the supposed peaceful Muslims, which alone should disqualify anyone from becoming a leader of this country. How can someone represent ALL the people when they believe women don't have the same rights as men? Some of the 'peaceful' Muslims, including one on these boards, claims that women are given what they need by the Muslim men. That means they do not have the same rights as men, only what the men choose to give them.
Peaceful Muslims also demand that women cover their faces for legal IDs and driver's licenses and even mug shots if they get arrested. How would that work to have a president who demands that Muslims not be held to our laws?
We've seen the treatment of women, Christians and gays in Muslim countries. The ones doing the torturing and killing have the upper hand in many places. Either there are far more radicalized Muslims that previously believed or it's common for devout Muslims to treat infidels, women and gays as if they are lesser beings.
I cannot get past the way Muslims treat women. The religion dictates that women hide their bodies as if it's something to be ashamed of. That is insane and the women who have managed to break free from the religion say it's an oppressive hell being owned by Muslim men.
The Twin Towers helped. But it wasn't Islam that did it, it wasn't all Muslims. People connecting all of Islam with 9/11 didn't just happen. It was given to people wrapped up nicely for their consumption.
You say if you don't want to be lumped with radicals you have to denounce them all the time. But then no one listens anyway, so what's the point.
Do you denounce and condemn all people of your faith EVERY TIME they do something bad? Really? I bet you don't.
You just expect all Muslims to do this, but you don't expect Christians to do this. Why is that?
You might not want a Muslim president. That's a lot different to saying Muslims SHOULDN'T be a president as their principles go against the Constitution. He didn't come out and say someone like Huckabee has "principles" that go against the Constitution and he shouldn't be president though. He lumped all Muslims in the same basket, playing on the fears of morons who can't think for themselves, and it works a treat. It doesn't matter how wrong you are, it only matters how many idiots agree with you.
How can someone represent all the people when their views on women are despicable? Well, you go ask this to Trump's supporters, it'd be interesting to know......
How many of the Republican candidates don't represent ALL OF THE PEOPLE? I mean, like GAY PEOPLE?
I'd say a president DOES need to represent all the people, however many presidents haven't done this. Bush Dubya for a start. But, he's not Muslim, so people don't seem to care. Oh, let's bash Muslims and use excuses that should be used against many on the right too.
Disagree.What's life like in Muslim countries?
What's the point here?
I don't like Islam. I also don't like Christianity. Doesn't mean I wouldn't stand up for people from both religions to have freedoms, rights, and the chance to just get on with their life.
While I agree with you for the most part, I do believe we should be careful about how many Muslims we allow into the US. Europe is facing a huge problem because of the increasing Muslim population. To ignore the potential problems that Muslims can bring to a country, all we need do is look at Lebanon. Europe could very well find itself in civil war with Muslims within the next two or three generations. When Muslims are a small minority, they do well within whatever society they live, but when they become the majority or get close to being the majority, then they want to turn that society into their own little caliphate.
And your post is disappointing, with its references to Muslims 'causing a civil war,' and their propensity toward creating “their own little caliphate” is unfounded and fails as a hasty generalization fallacy; pity, because you're an otherwise intelligent poster with meaningful contributions – this post being the exception to that.
the silence of "normal" muslims is very telling.
the silence of "normal" muslims is very telling.
Link?
Still nothing huh?
I'll check back in a week. Maybe you'll think of sump'm.
In the first half of the 20th century, is was the blacks. In second half of the 20th century it was the communists. And in 1st half of the 21st century it's the Muslims. Since the best way to avoid being a scapegoat is to find one, there will always be one.Columbia Heights students walk out over Facebook post about Muslims
Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim
"We have a problem in this country. It's called Muslims," said the first man Trump called on to ask a question. "We know our current president is one. You know he's not even an American."
Ahmed Mohamed, Muslim teen cuffed over clock mistaken for bomb, still suspended from school
"Mohamed will not be charged with possessing a hoax bomb because there's no evidence the 14-year-old meant to cause alarm Monday at MacArthur High School in the Dallas suburb of Irving, according to police Chief Larry Boyd."
Since 9/11 Muslims have been having a hard time in the US. The reasons are clear, Bush wanted to make a new Common Enemy, the demise of the USSR left a gaping hole in the right wing "be tough on anything" policy.
In the past just calling someone a Communist was as bad as it got, now it's calling someone a Muslim. You want to get at Obama because you don't like him? Just call him a Muslim. It's simple, so simple even a redneck who managed to pass grade 2 could do it. It doesn't take brains.
And the whole while with ISIS going around killing and apparently this being really important for the citizens of the US, as opposed to, say, the Civil War in DRC or other such places.
Some Muslims are bad. Some Christians are bad. But by vilifying ALL Muslims people are essentially giving the right exactly what they want. People criticise Obama's foreign policy, it hasn't been amazing, but he's pulled back from the vilification of Muslims, and the need for the right to make Muslims the problem (and therefore the solution).
did radical muslims attack the USA on 9/11 ? They are not being scapegoated, they are the enemy of free people the world over.
Do you know what is truly disturbing? ISIS sawing off people's head while they are alive and the Muslim world doing nothing about it. BOTH are equally disturbing, much more so than our attitudes toward those fucking little sand monkeys.
Fuck Islam!!!
Islam is at war with humanity in general and has been since its inception.... Islam cannot coexist with civilized society.
I will never understand why liberals want to ignore 3000 years of history. Oh wait, these are the same idiots who want to remove statues of confederate generals.
How many Muslims do you know personally?
In the first half of the 20th century, is was the blacks. In second half of the 20th century it was the communists. And in 1st half of the 21st century it's the Muslims. Since the best way to avoid being a scapegoat is to find one, there will always be one.Columbia Heights students walk out over Facebook post about Muslims
Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim
"We have a problem in this country. It's called Muslims," said the first man Trump called on to ask a question. "We know our current president is one. You know he's not even an American."
Ahmed Mohamed, Muslim teen cuffed over clock mistaken for bomb, still suspended from school
"Mohamed will not be charged with possessing a hoax bomb because there's no evidence the 14-year-old meant to cause alarm Monday at MacArthur High School in the Dallas suburb of Irving, according to police Chief Larry Boyd."
Since 9/11 Muslims have been having a hard time in the US. The reasons are clear, Bush wanted to make a new Common Enemy, the demise of the USSR left a gaping hole in the right wing "be tough on anything" policy.
In the past just calling someone a Communist was as bad as it got, now it's calling someone a Muslim. You want to get at Obama because you don't like him? Just call him a Muslim. It's simple, so simple even a redneck who managed to pass grade 2 could do it. It doesn't take brains.
And the whole while with ISIS going around killing and apparently this being really important for the citizens of the US, as opposed to, say, the Civil War in DRC or other such places.
Some Muslims are bad. Some Christians are bad. But by vilifying ALL Muslims people are essentially giving the right exactly what they want. People criticise Obama's foreign policy, it hasn't been amazing, but he's pulled back from the vilification of Muslims, and the need for the right to make Muslims the problem (and therefore the solution).
did radical muslims attack the USA on 9/11 ? They are not being scapegoated, they are the enemy of free people the world over.
But we're not talking about "radical muslims", we're talking about ALL MUSLIMS. Go figure.
You mean the cowards who ran to europe for asylum rather than fight for their freedom leaving their wives and kids behind to fend for themselves. Are those the muslims you mean?Do you know what is truly disturbing? ISIS sawing off people's head while they are alive and the Muslim world doing nothing about it. BOTH are equally disturbing, much more so than our attitudes toward those fucking little sand monkeys.
Fuck Islam!!!
Muslims doing nothing about it, well, except the Kurds, and the Iraqis and the Syrians who are mostly Muslims, and fighting ISIS, of course. But don't let the facts get in the way.......
