'The Empire Strikes Back': Kremlin slams 'extremely scurrilous' US hacking accusations

[jc456]

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

Putin didn't make Hillary Clinton stab Bernie Sanders in the back ... Nor did he make Donna Brazile conspire with the media to influence the debates.
Face it ... Your really just pissed they got caught.

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Hillary didn't stab him in the back. She was running against him. And you guys are happy that they were hacked. You don't care that Putin was behind it. Gee. What would you be saying if Trump was the target and he lost? Still singing Putin praises?

Which Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I'll repeat what I've said before, which you guys seem incapable of understanding. There is no way of determining whether or to what degree the hacking and wikileaks effected the election. That is water under the bridge. Do you understand that part?

Secondly - people on all sides should be upset that Russia meddled in our elections like this. Frankly, I would think any American would be. Certainly, there is bipartisan anger in the congress about this. But not among you Trumpers. You'd sooner believe a lying exKGB Russian President than you would our own government. That's beyond understanding.

well if there is no way to determine hacking how is it happened? wow, you all are fking hilarious.

 

[jc456]

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

Putin didn't make Hillary Clinton stab Bernie Sanders in the back ... Nor did he make Donna Brazile conspire with the media to influence the debates.
Face it ... Your really just pissed they got caught.

.

Hillary didn't stab him in the back. She was running against him. And you guys are happy that they were hacked. You don't care that Putin was behind it. Gee. What would you be saying if Trump was the target and he lost? Still singing Putin praises?

Which Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

Which Wikileak email was real and which was not? That's the question you should be asking.

no the issue is they interfered so something wikilieaks reported did it, which email?

 

[Google]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

Don't put word in my mouth. And I didn't put words in your mouth, I was speaking broadly about the behavior of the left.

There is no evidence that Russia had anything to do with the DNC hacks, zero. There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'. There is evidence that this administration has politicized the IRS, DHS, CIA--your willingness and wanting to believe Russia is responsible is motivated by your poltical bias.

Again I ask: what Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I answered the question you asked already. There is more evidence then you suggest and all the intelligence agencies are in agreement as to who did the hacks. And your only response is - they're all in cahoots and politicized That makes no sense.

Is your willingness to absolve the Russians a result of your political bias?

I know we all throw jabs and insults, but seriously my computer sucks and I do miss some posts sometimes. What was your answer? I really want to know which Wikileaks revelation cost Clinton the election

I think that finding State Department emails on the computer of a man being investigated for child pornography days before the election and the FBI reopening their investigation cost Clinton the election. But maybe there was a Wikileaks revelation I missed.

 

[jc456]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

Don't put word in my mouth. And I didn't put words in your mouth, I was speaking broadly about the behavior of the left.

There is no evidence that Russia had anything to do with the DNC hacks, zero. There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'. There is evidence that this administration has politicized the IRS, DHS, CIA--your willingness and wanting to believe Russia is responsible is motivated by your poltical bias.

Again I ask: what Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I answered the question you asked already. There is more evidence then you suggest and all the intelligence agencies are in agreement as to who did the hacks. And your only response is - they're all in cahoots and politicized That makes no sense.

Is your willingness to absolve the Russians a result of your political bias?

so lady, why did they ignore the US Congress if it's so? are you really that stupid?

 

[Coyote]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

but you believe the russians hacked something right? even without any evidence. your side something must be without evidence and you just fall in behind the lie.

When you have all the US intelligence agencies (who are notorious for not cooperating and getting along) saying the same thing...then yes, I believe them. I believe them more than a) a claim that there is some sort of political conspiracy afoot that they're all participating in and b) the claims of a country that has lengthy history of lies and denials but who all of a sudden is deemed "honest".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

Can't believe the infection gullibility on the Left.

Putin did it = LOL

 

[Coyote]

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

Don't put word in my mouth. And I didn't put words in your mouth, I was speaking broadly about the behavior of the left.

There is no evidence that Russia had anything to do with the DNC hacks, zero. There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'. There is evidence that this administration has politicized the IRS, DHS, CIA--your willingness and wanting to believe Russia is responsible is motivated by your poltical bias.

Again I ask: what Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I answered the question you asked already. There is more evidence then you suggest and all the intelligence agencies are in agreement as to who did the hacks. And your only response is - they're all in cahoots and politicized That makes no sense.

Is your willingness to absolve the Russians a result of your political bias?

I know we all throw jabs and insults, but seriously my computer sucks and I do miss some posts sometimes. What was your answer? I really want to know which Wikileaks revelation cost Clinton the election

I think that finding State Department emails on the computer of a man being investigated for child pornography days before the election and the FBI reopening their investigation cost Clinton the election. But maybe there was a Wikileaks revelation I missed.

Actually - I didn't answer you, I went back and looked - another poster asked me the exact same question, answered it in post #107.

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

The sneaky, slinking, mangy Coyote said:
"What would you be saying if Trump was the target and he lost"

Ok, let's assume Russia did hack the election. Then let's also assume they hacked Detroit. But they screwed it all up because they didn't know that by adding more votes for Hillary than there were ballots submitted would cause issues with a recount.

In conclusion, we can agree that Russia actually tried to help Hillary win the election over Trump. However, it backfired on them because they really didn't understand our election process. Like the few million extra votes they cast for Hillary in California, it would go unnoticed.

Who's with me on this?

 

[BlindBoo]

There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'.

In the real world, it was some of the Senators who did see the data that sent a letter asking for the information to be released.

Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

"The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill last week, in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources."

 

[Coyote]

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

Don't put word in my mouth. And I didn't put words in your mouth, I was speaking broadly about the behavior of the left.

There is no evidence that Russia had anything to do with the DNC hacks, zero. There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'. There is evidence that this administration has politicized the IRS, DHS, CIA--your willingness and wanting to believe Russia is responsible is motivated by your poltical bias.

Again I ask: what Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I answered the question you asked already. There is more evidence then you suggest and all the intelligence agencies are in agreement as to who did the hacks. And your only response is - they're all in cahoots and politicized That makes no sense.

Is your willingness to absolve the Russians a result of your political bias?

so lady, why did they ignore the US Congress if it's so? are you really that stupid?

Have you missed the repeated answers throughout the thread to that question (by other posters?).

 

[Google]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

but you believe the russians hacked something right? even without any evidence. your side something must be without evidence and you just fall in behind the lie.

When you have all the US intelligence agencies (who are notorious for not cooperating and getting along) saying the same thing...then yes, I believe them. I believe them more than a) a claim that there is some sort of political conspiracy afoot that they're all participating in and b) the claims of a country that has lengthy history of lies and denials but who all of a sudden is deemed "honest".

Here's what you refuse to acknowledge: NO US intelligence agency has made an official statement or provided any evidence. All you have, or rather all the Washington Post has is an unidentified CIA source leaking a supposed report. Do find it ironic that you're basing your entire assumption off a leak?

 

[jc456]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

but you believe the russians hacked something right? even without any evidence. your side something must be without evidence and you just fall in behind the lie.

When you have all the US intelligence agencies (who are notorious for not cooperating and getting along) saying the same thing...then yes, I believe them. I believe them more than a) a claim that there is some sort of political conspiracy afoot that they're all participating in and b) the claims of a country that has lengthy history of lies and denials but who all of a sudden is deemed "honest".

so why are they avoiding the US Congress?

 

[BlackSand]

I'll repeat what I've said before, which you guys seem incapable of understanding. There is no way of determining whether or to what degree the hacking and wikileaks effected the election. That is water under the bridge. Do you understand that part?

Secondly - people on all sides should be upset that Russia meddled in our elections like this. Frankly, I would think any American would be. Certainly, there is bipartisan anger in the congress about this. But not among you Trumpers. You'd sooner believe a lying exKGB Russian President than you would our own government. That's beyond understanding.

Failed Democrat Presidential Nominee Clinton suffered the public opinion her actions and the actions of others associated with her brought down on her campaign.
You can blame the Russians all day long ... But that won't change what she and her cohorts did ... Nor how the people of America feel about it.

But I am not holding my breath ... Progressives are always big on excuses and a little thin on accepting personal responsibility.

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[Coyote]

The sneaky, slinking Coyote said:
"What would you be saying if Trump was the target and he lost"

Ok, let's assume Russia did hack the election. Then let's also assume they hacked Detroit. But they screwed it all up because they know that by adding more votes for Hillary than there were ballots submitted would cause issues with a recount.

In conclusion, we can agree that Russia actually tried to help Hillary win the election over Trump. However, it backfired on them because they really didn't understand our election process. Like the few million extra votes they cast for Hillary in California, it would go unnoticed.

Who's with me on this?

Before you start making these imaginary "assumptions" try to start from an accurate premise.

I am not claiming Russia hacked the election.
I am not claiming Russia hacked Detroit.
I'm not claiming ANYONE did either of the two above.

So get your claims straight, and then I'll respond to your imaginary scenarios.

 

[jc456]

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

Don't put word in my mouth. And I didn't put words in your mouth, I was speaking broadly about the behavior of the left.

There is no evidence that Russia had anything to do with the DNC hacks, zero. There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'. There is evidence that this administration has politicized the IRS, DHS, CIA--your willingness and wanting to believe Russia is responsible is motivated by your poltical bias.

Again I ask: what Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I answered the question you asked already. There is more evidence then you suggest and all the intelligence agencies are in agreement as to who did the hacks. And your only response is - they're all in cahoots and politicized That makes no sense.

Is your willingness to absolve the Russians a result of your political bias?

so lady, why did they ignore the US Congress if it's so? are you really that stupid?

Have you missed the repeated answers throughout the thread to that question (by other posters?).

well I'll apologize, but I guess so. Please point me to a post # that has that answer.

 

[Coyote]

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

but you believe the russians hacked something right? even without any evidence. your side something must be without evidence and you just fall in behind the lie.

When you have all the US intelligence agencies (who are notorious for not cooperating and getting along) saying the same thing...then yes, I believe them. I believe them more than a) a claim that there is some sort of political conspiracy afoot that they're all participating in and b) the claims of a country that has lengthy history of lies and denials but who all of a sudden is deemed "honest".

Here's what you refuse to acknowledge: NO US intelligence agency has made an official statement or provided any evidence. All you have, or rather all the Washington Post has is an unidentified CIA source leaking a supposed report. Do find it ironic that you're basing your entire assumption off a leak?

Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking

 

[Google]

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

Don't put word in my mouth. And I didn't put words in your mouth, I was speaking broadly about the behavior of the left.

There is no evidence that Russia had anything to do with the DNC hacks, zero. There are unsubstantiated leak, irony, from an unidentified CIA 'source'. There is evidence that this administration has politicized the IRS, DHS, CIA--your willingness and wanting to believe Russia is responsible is motivated by your poltical bias.

Again I ask: what Wikileak revelation was so consequential that it cost Clinton the election?

I answered the question you asked already. There is more evidence then you suggest and all the intelligence agencies are in agreement as to who did the hacks. And your only response is - they're all in cahoots and politicized That makes no sense.

Is your willingness to absolve the Russians a result of your political bias?

so lady, why did they ignore the US Congress if it's so? are you really that stupid?

Have you missed the repeated answers throughout the thread to that question (by other posters?).

Yes. Indulge me. Educate me. Enlighten me. What Wikileak revelation was so substantial that it cost Clinton the election? Are you on this board just to drop insults on those you disagree with, or are you trying to convince others of your opinion. I am being sincere, and my opinion is not written in stone. I am basing my opinion off the fact that A) no official statement or evidence has been provided by ANY US intelligence and B) even if Russia was behind the DNC hacks it did not have a significant impact on the election. Am I wrong?

Obama said on national television, The Daily Show, that the DNC hacks were inconsequential and exposed routine political emails. Is he wrong?

 

[BlindBoo]

NO US intelligence agency has made an official statement or provided any evidence.

Yeah, except when they did.


Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security | Homeland Security

"The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities."

Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

The CIA shared its latest assessment with key senators in a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill last week, in which agency officials cited a growing body of intelligence from multiple sources.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama is embarrassing our entire Intel community

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

Amazing, isn't it? The righties have been crying "Commie!" for years and now they want to join them.

Obama is more of a Commie than Putin ever was

 

[BlindBoo]

Putin is embarressing the entire rightwing. Can't believe the Putin adoration movement.

No ya'll are embarrassing yourselves. First you throw a fit, cry, riot, threaten electoral college members--yeah America is going to get behind that. Then you beta-male liberals pull a Jan Brady and scream "Russia, Russia, Russia!!!!". Obama goes on national television and says the DNC hacks were inconsequential.

Taking state legislatures and governorships into account and the Democrat party is an insignificant regional party.

Talk about embarrassing? Your side was more concerned about letting men get to use the women's restroom, claiming there are 72 genders instead of addressing Islamic terror or the border.

Don't put words in my mouth. I've accepted the election results. I'm not calling for an electoral college revolt. What's done is done. I'm just amazed how far you're up Putin's rectrum. Eventually, he'll crap you out.

but you believe the russians hacked something right? even without any evidence. your side something must be without evidence and you just fall in behind the lie.

When you have all the US intelligence agencies (who are notorious for not cooperating and getting along) saying the same thing...then yes, I believe them. I believe them more than a) a claim that there is some sort of political conspiracy afoot that they're all participating in and b) the claims of a country that has lengthy history of lies and denials but who all of a sudden is deemed "honest".

so why are they avoiding the US Congress?

They've already briefed key members of the Senate.