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The Fallacy That Marxism Equals Soviet Communism and Totalitarianism
This post is not an endorsement of either Marxism or Capitalism, but an attempt to explain differences as people seem to be equating Marxism with Soviet-style totalitarianism. The post is an attempt to clear the misconceptions so that people know the differences when posting. This essay is also an attempt to find a Third Way.
THEORETICAL MARXISM:
The video embedded within one post on this board presents a former KGB agent discussing a Soviet attempt to instill Marxist doctrine within America for the purpose of aligning US citizens with communism. First, Marxism is not Soviet-style communism which is totalitarianism and has little to do with Marxist views. It is important to know that both the US and the Soviet Union have used Marxism to further their agendas around the world, most recently in Central and South America. The truth, is that the ideas of Marx are closer to those of the working class of the far Right in America than this group would believe.
Marx believed that the only viable and legitimate class is the working class who are responsible for the production of goods that raise the GDP in a country. He believed that all ownership of this production should belong to this class, alone, and not to corporations , or upper class individuals. He believed that capitalism elevates the upper class at the expense of the true producers: the laboring class. By taking both the labor and the bank deposits of the working class and turning these into capital to establish corporations, the capitalists parasitically live from the labor and the aggregate wealth of the working class. The provision of low-wages in return for the labor further deprives the class of its wealth.
The establishment of unions created a voice for the working man. (Read: In Dubious Battle by John Steinbeck: the people’s fight for fair trade and unions) Unions were a way to protect the class from the pervasive domination by capitalists. By removing the influence of unions beginning in the 1980’s through moving jobs offshore, the corporations did three things:
1. Removed the voice for and the protection of the working class.
2. Removed any ownership of production by that class.
3. Retained the wealth of the working class deposits for capital to establish offshore companies which created a drain of wealth from America, and especially from the target class. (the demise of the middle-class)
The idea that one is a “patriot” for accepting these practices and by demeaning unions is ludicrous and self-defeating. The word, capitalism refers to the capital (profit) derived from the production of the people. It has been taken by the corporate class in production profit and the wealth as deposits of the working class.
As Chinese workers begin to unionize in response to the same procedures, American corporations will move on to poorer, but more lucrative markets.
Marx believed that as the working class begins to put together the pieces of the puzzle, it will revolt against the true capitalists. The failure of Marxism, as presented by economists is due to the fact that this revolution has not occurred except in small diverse regions. Wherever true Marxism exists, such as in Latin America, repressive regimes arise to kill the movements and the people. In fact, in the 1960’s and 1970’s, thousands of workers were murdered in soccer stadiums all over South America. The coup against Salvadore Allende on 9/11 in Chile in the 1970’s is an example. (Read the book, “Missing” or watch the movie about the killing of Charles Horman, an American journalist who saw too much before the coup) Browse the archives of the US State Department for an article on US complicity in the coup and Horman’s death.
American Jihad, a poster on this message board has Che Guevara in his gun sight. Guevara began as a Marxist trying to help the workers. His mistake was aligning himself with Soviet communism in order to receive funding. Both, the US and Russia used Guevara to promote their own agendas and Che was murdered in a lonely hut by the CIA, after the Soviets had turned on him. Read: Che, by John Lee Anderson, a book that the New York Times calls, “superb, separating the man from the myth.” Che, however, was not innocent, as he murdered many of the old military after he and Castro took Cuba.
The next essay post will discuss the incongruities within both Marxism and capitalism and the attempt to find a Third Way. (one that is not socialism, or communism )
This post is not an endorsement of either Marxism or Capitalism, but an attempt to explain differences as people seem to be equating Marxism with Soviet-style totalitarianism. The post is an attempt to clear the misconceptions so that people know the differences when posting. This essay is also an attempt to find a Third Way.
THEORETICAL MARXISM:
The video embedded within one post on this board presents a former KGB agent discussing a Soviet attempt to instill Marxist doctrine within America for the purpose of aligning US citizens with communism. First, Marxism is not Soviet-style communism which is totalitarianism and has little to do with Marxist views. It is important to know that both the US and the Soviet Union have used Marxism to further their agendas around the world, most recently in Central and South America. The truth, is that the ideas of Marx are closer to those of the working class of the far Right in America than this group would believe.
Marx believed that the only viable and legitimate class is the working class who are responsible for the production of goods that raise the GDP in a country. He believed that all ownership of this production should belong to this class, alone, and not to corporations , or upper class individuals. He believed that capitalism elevates the upper class at the expense of the true producers: the laboring class. By taking both the labor and the bank deposits of the working class and turning these into capital to establish corporations, the capitalists parasitically live from the labor and the aggregate wealth of the working class. The provision of low-wages in return for the labor further deprives the class of its wealth.
The establishment of unions created a voice for the working man. (Read: In Dubious Battle by John Steinbeck: the people’s fight for fair trade and unions) Unions were a way to protect the class from the pervasive domination by capitalists. By removing the influence of unions beginning in the 1980’s through moving jobs offshore, the corporations did three things:
1. Removed the voice for and the protection of the working class.
2. Removed any ownership of production by that class.
3. Retained the wealth of the working class deposits for capital to establish offshore companies which created a drain of wealth from America, and especially from the target class. (the demise of the middle-class)
The idea that one is a “patriot” for accepting these practices and by demeaning unions is ludicrous and self-defeating. The word, capitalism refers to the capital (profit) derived from the production of the people. It has been taken by the corporate class in production profit and the wealth as deposits of the working class.
As Chinese workers begin to unionize in response to the same procedures, American corporations will move on to poorer, but more lucrative markets.
Marx believed that as the working class begins to put together the pieces of the puzzle, it will revolt against the true capitalists. The failure of Marxism, as presented by economists is due to the fact that this revolution has not occurred except in small diverse regions. Wherever true Marxism exists, such as in Latin America, repressive regimes arise to kill the movements and the people. In fact, in the 1960’s and 1970’s, thousands of workers were murdered in soccer stadiums all over South America. The coup against Salvadore Allende on 9/11 in Chile in the 1970’s is an example. (Read the book, “Missing” or watch the movie about the killing of Charles Horman, an American journalist who saw too much before the coup) Browse the archives of the US State Department for an article on US complicity in the coup and Horman’s death.
American Jihad, a poster on this message board has Che Guevara in his gun sight. Guevara began as a Marxist trying to help the workers. His mistake was aligning himself with Soviet communism in order to receive funding. Both, the US and Russia used Guevara to promote their own agendas and Che was murdered in a lonely hut by the CIA, after the Soviets had turned on him. Read: Che, by John Lee Anderson, a book that the New York Times calls, “superb, separating the man from the myth.” Che, however, was not innocent, as he murdered many of the old military after he and Castro took Cuba.
The next essay post will discuss the incongruities within both Marxism and capitalism and the attempt to find a Third Way. (one that is not socialism, or communism )
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