The Fallacy That Marxism Equals Soviet Communism and Totalitarianism

[S.J.]

Put whatever label on it you want, but it's all the same when it comes right down to it. Power hungry people seeking to control the citizenry to enhance their own lives in the name of equality. The end result is the government lives in luxury while the people live in poverty. Our current president is a perfect example.

 

[Nika2013]

Oh...this describes every administration that seems to take office.. except maybe Bill Clinton's...He liked the poor...Ever see the satirical movie about his life, Primary Colors? They found him late at night in the doughnut shop talking to the cook. Addressed to SJ

 

[Nika2013]

If you are going to post, please read the original post and those that say I DO NOT ADVOCATE MARXISM... The point of the entire exercise for me ...is to find a Third Way beyond all of these...In fact, I will open a new thread, soon, to do this...Addressed to Wehrwolf...

 

[Nika2013]

Advocate of Marx and Lee Harvey Oswald? You posted the following, not me:

Marx's philosophy and economics are entirely indispensable in the history of ideas. His historical materialism, for example the idea that intellectual or aesthetic or religious products of a society reflect its material arrangements and conditions of production, is not an idea we can do without,......... your quoted article...


Or did you not read your own post? Addressed to Wehrwolf

 

[jasonnfree]

Oh...this describes every administration that seems to take office.. except maybe Bill Clinton's...He liked the poor...Ever see the satirical movie about his life, Primary Colors? They found him late at night in the doughnut shop talking to the cook. Addressed to SJ

I always thought different of Clinton. He and Hillary left for the white house and never looked back. Never visited Arkansas after that and I don't think he did much for the working class or poor except he did raise the minimum wage. However, by signing "ending welfare as we know it" at around the same time he pushed Nafta through, ensuring less well paying job for workers and inner city blacks, I think he showed his true colors. A corporate democrat very comfortable around the very wealthy and becoming very wealthy himself.

 

[Nika2013]

Yes...he is an enigma....and he did all of those things that you said he did...I often wonder who he really is...and maybe the movie truly described him: In his heart he really cared, but it is more important to maintain a position in the political arena...He took the time to write to me on an old typewriter. He did not have to do that. So... who is the real Clinton? A man with a big heart who sold out?...Most people like him, though. Addressed to Jason Free

 

[Nika2013]

Posting a new thread.....IS THERE A THIRD WAY BEYOND CAPITALISM AND MARXIST-SOCIALISM?
(NOT COMMUNISM)

 

[Crackerjaxon]

It's nit-picking. The conflict is between collectivism and individualism. Incendiary rhetoric is just a weapon in the fight.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Posting a new thread.....IS THERE A THIRD WAY BEYOND CAPITALISM AND MARXIST-SOCIALISM?
(NOT COMMUNISM)

How can a man be free if he is under the thumb of Marxist Socialism?

 

[Sallow]

Put whatever label on it you want, but it's all the same when it comes right down to it. Power hungry people seeking to control the citizenry to enhance their own lives in the name of equality. The end result is the government lives in luxury while the people live in poverty. Our current president is a perfect example.

Oh Bullshit.

Like Clinton before him..he took a big hit economically to go into the White House.

Unlike failed oilman George W. Bush..who took the White House as a booby prize because he couldn't become baseball commissioner.

 

[S.J.]

Put whatever label on it you want, but it's all the same when it comes right down to it. Power hungry people seeking to control the citizenry to enhance their own lives in the name of equality. The end result is the government lives in luxury while the people live in poverty. Our current president is a perfect example.

Oh Bullshit.

Like Clinton before him..he took a big hit economically to go into the White House.

Unlike failed oilman George W. Bush..who took the White House as a booby prize because he couldn't become baseball commissioner.

Boy, you are one dumb S.O.B. You post a comment talking about how communism doesn't work, then you defend the communist in the White House. You are stuck on stupid!

 

[aaronleland]

Put whatever label on it you want, but it's all the same when it comes right down to it. Power hungry people seeking to control the citizenry to enhance their own lives in the name of equality. The end result is the government lives in luxury while the people live in poverty. Our current president is a perfect example.

Oh Bullshit.

Like Clinton before him..he took a big hit economically to go into the White House.

Unlike failed oilman George W. Bush..who took the White House as a booby prize because he couldn't become baseball commissioner.

Boy, you are one dumb S.O.B. You post a comment talking about how communism doesn't work, then you defend the communist in the White House. You are stuck on stupid!

And Obama is a communist how? I have seen many rightwingers on this board asked the same question, but never seen a straight answer.

 

[Sallow]

Put whatever label on it you want, but it's all the same when it comes right down to it. Power hungry people seeking to control the citizenry to enhance their own lives in the name of equality. The end result is the government lives in luxury while the people live in poverty. Our current president is a perfect example.

Oh Bullshit.

Like Clinton before him..he took a big hit economically to go into the White House.

Unlike failed oilman George W. Bush..who took the White House as a booby prize because he couldn't become baseball commissioner.

Boy, you are one dumb S.O.B. You post a comment talking about how communism doesn't work, then you defend the communist in the White House. You are stuck on stupid!

You call Obama a communist..and I'm stupid?

If Obama were a soviet style communist..you'd have bullet in your head for posting that.

Idiot.

 

[Sallow]

Oh Bullshit.

Like Clinton before him..he took a big hit economically to go into the White House.

Unlike failed oilman George W. Bush..who took the White House as a booby prize because he couldn't become baseball commissioner.

Boy, you are one dumb S.O.B. You post a comment talking about how communism doesn't work, then you defend the communist in the White House. You are stuck on stupid!

And Obama is a communist how? I have seen many rightwingers on this board asked the same question, but never seen a straight answer.

Because they have NO FUCKING IDEA what communism is...
None.

First off..commies don't pay taxes.

Why?

Because they own all means of production and agriculture.

So when they go on about taxes?

They are really supporting a communist agenda.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Communism doesn't work. Each time it's been tried, it dissolves into a brutal autocracy, that puts up crazy ideas, like 5 year plans, that end up in famines and massive poverty.

But our government taking over the auto, banks, insurance and healthcare industries is different and really gonna work this time

 

[editec]

Every place communism was attempted it has turned into an authoritarian nightmare.

Ergo my conclusion is that theoretical Marxist has inherent flaws that inevitably make that economic/governmental system fail to live up to its promise.

 

[Sallow]

Communism doesn't work. Each time it's been tried, it dissolves into a brutal autocracy, that puts up crazy ideas, like 5 year plans, that end up in famines and massive poverty.

But our government taking over the auto, banks, insurance and healthcare industries is different and really gonna work this time

And we are at war with Eastasia..today..right Winston?

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Put whatever label on it you want, but it's all the same when it comes right down to it. Power hungry people seeking to control the citizenry to enhance their own lives in the name of equality. The end result is the government lives in luxury while the people live in poverty. Our current president is a perfect example.

Oh Bullshit.

Like Clinton before him..he took a big hit economically to go into the White House.

Unlike failed oilman George W. Bush..who took the White House as a booby prize because he couldn't become baseball commissioner.

I've never quite grasped how professional politicians become millionaires.

Could you tell me?

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Boy, you are one dumb S.O.B. You post a comment talking about how communism doesn't work, then you defend the communist in the White House. You are stuck on stupid!

And Obama is a communist how? I have seen many rightwingers on this board asked the same question, but never seen a straight answer.

Because they have NO FUCKING IDEA what communism is...
None.

First off..commies don't pay taxes.

Why?

Because they own all means of production and agriculture.

So when they go on about taxes?

They are really supporting a communist agenda.

What happens when an individual wants to sell his share and move on?

 

[bripat9643]

And Obama is a communist how? I have seen many rightwingers on this board asked the same question, but never seen a straight answer.

How do Obama's beliefs differ in any fundamental way from the beliefs of Lenin or Mao?