The Flint Water Crisis: An insight into Republicanism.

[billyerock1991]

Ah yes...the usual suspects deflecting from Snyder's Katrina.

Sorry you poor ODS sufferers...you can't blame this on Obama (not for lack of trying)

LANSING, MI -- Gov. Rick Snyder on Tuesday accepted a resignation from Michigan Department of Environmental Quality Director Dan Wyant after a task force laid responsibility for the Flint water crisis at the feet of the department.

Director Dan Wyant resigns after task force blasts MDEQ over Flint water crisis​

you have to realize republicans can read .. I mean they can't read facts, it fucks them up ...

 

[billyerock1991]

The thread title is in accurate.

Flint is a case study in Big Government Non-Accountability. Local, State and Federal officials all had their hands on this mess, and only a minor player has been sacrificed the the Secular Demi-God of the Public Narrative. If a private company had done this, the executives in charge would be in jail. But private citizens can't even sue the government when it poisons them.

This is what Progressives call the Thing We Do Together.

Oh, fair lady, what big "lies" you have. We have heard, ad nauseam , about how the MDEQ ( a state agency) and the governor willfully and criminally lied about the involvement of the elected democratic council, obstructed the EPA and was central to the republican agenda to to resist any outside advice as well as flipping off the compliance with federal guidelines.

its like they are brain dead when they see the writing on the wall ... to them its like it never happen ... then they start on something other then what has happen here now they are trying to push it on Benghazi ... you know republicans, when the horse is dead, it doesn't feel the whip any more ...

 

[billyerock1991]

At least people pay into social security. SS may be a big expense but we paid into it and expect to get something out of it. I understand the need for a strong military but

Obama: US spends more on military than next 8 nations combined

Hey moron Social security was not supposed to cost us anything. They were supposed to segregate those funds intended for only what they were intended to be for, until your leftist icon LBJ made it part of the general fund. all the money has been spent on other shit, but you're too stupid to realize that

Don't want to change the subject but I do want to point out that Jroc has bought into another bullshit Republican myth - this one about SS.

https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths.html

MYTHS AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY

<snip>

Myth 4: President Roosevelt promised that the money the participants paid would be put into the independent "Trust Fund," rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement program, and no other Government program

The idea here is basically correct. However, this statement is usually joined to a second statement to the effect that this principle was violated by subsequent Administrations. However, there has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government.

The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Most likely this myth comes from a confusion between the financing of the Social Security program and the way the Social Security Trust Fund is treated in federal budget accounting. Starting in 1969 (due to action by the Johnson Administration in 1968) the transactions to the Trust Fund were included in what is known as the "unified budget." This means that every function of the federal government is included in a single budget. This is sometimes described by saying that the Social Security Trust Funds are "on-budget." This budget treatment of the Social Security Trust Fund continued until 1990 when the Trust Funds were again taken "off-budget." This means only that they are shown as a separate account in the federal budget. But whether the Trust Funds are "on-budget" or "off-budget" is primarily a question of accounting practices--it has no affect on the actual operations of the Trust Fund itself.

IOW's Jroc bought into the Republican confusion that LBJ used SS funds for something other than SS, when in fact Republican icon Ronald Reagan was the first to loot the SS fund...
Ronald Reagan and The Great Social Security Heist

And after Reagan unlocked the SS lockbox, SS became the biggest holder of U.S. Debt.

Q:Who are the holders of U.S. debt?
A: The biggest are the Social Security trust funds (16 percent), the Federal Reserve banks (12 percent), China (8 percent), Japan (7 percent) and mutual funds including money-market funds (6 percent).

And...

"The government's $2.5 trillion debt to Social Security is the real reason that so many politicians want to cut benefits. They are trying to find a way to avoid having to repay the looted money.... Given the fact that much of the surplus revenue from the 1983 payroll tax hike ended up in the pockets of the super rich in the form of income tax cuts, I propose a special tax on this group of taxpayers to recoup the missing Social Security money. The government used revenue from the Social Security payroll tax hike to fund tax cuts for the rich because that was where the money was. I think the government should recover the 'embezzled' money by taxing the rich."

OTOH, BTW...
Bernie has a plan - lookitup.
.

There's never actually been a trust fund.The Social Security money has been spent and replaced with government bonds. A Ponzi scheme.."Bernie has a plan"

Jroc posted misinformation about SS on this thread and as I said in my first post on this thread about SS, I didn't want to change the subject but...

But since some of the Republicans on this thread realize they can no longer defend Governor Poison (R-MI) they apparently want to change the subject. Below is Senator Sanders' SS plan. Just so the righties don't have to Bern their little brains reading the whole thing, I'll break down Senator Sanders' plan - in simple terms.

A) Lift the cap from $118,500. to $250,000.
B) Payback the money that's been borrowed from the SS fund.

That's it, that's Senator Sanders' SS plan in a nutshell. But what that simple plan does is increase most retiree's benefit by about $65 bucks per month, increase the COLA and-----and ensure SS's solvency for another 50 years.

Issues

Strengthen and Expand Social Security

Social Security is the most successful government program in our nation’s history. Before it was signed into law, nearly half of senior citizens lived in poverty. Today, the elderly poverty rate is 10 percent. Although still much too high, that’s a dramatic improvement.

Through good times and bad, Social Security has paid every nickel owed to every eligible American – on time and without delay. As corporations destroyed the retirement dreams of millions over the past 30 years by eliminating defined benefit pension plans, Social Security was right there paying full benefits. As millions of Americans lost their life savings after Wall Street’s recklessness crashed the economy in 2008, Social Security was right there paying full benefits.

Today, Social Security is more important than ever. Over half of workers between the ages of 55-64 have no retirement savings. More than a third of senior citizens depend on Social Security for virtually all of their income. One out of every five senior citizens is trying to scrape by on an average income of just $8,300 a year.

Given these facts, our job cannot be to cut Social Security. Our job must be to expand it so that every American can retire with dignity and respect.

Virtually every Republican candidate for president disagrees. Many of them claim Social Security is “going broke,” that it’s causing the deficit to explode, and its trust fund is full of IOUs.

They want the American people to believe Social Security is in crisis and must be cut.

They are dead wrong.

Here are the facts:

• Social Security has a $2.8 trillion surplus. It can pay every benefit owed to every eligible American for the next 19 years (and more than three-quarters after that).
• Social Security’s assets aren’t “just paper,” as conservatives sometimes put it. Social Security invests in U.S Treasury bonds, the safest interest-bearing securities in the world. These are the same bonds wealthy investors have purchased, along with China and other foreign countries. These bonds are backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, which in our long history has never defaulted on its debt obligations.
• Right now a billionaire pays the same amount of money into Social Security as someone who makes $118,500 a year. That’s because there is a cap on taxable income that goes into the Social Security system.

Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to end this absurdity, by lifting this cap so that everyone who makes over $250,000 a year pays the same percentage of their income into Social Security as the middle class and working families.

This would not only extend the solvency of Social Security for the next 50 years, but also bring in enough revenue to expand benefits by an average of $65 a month; increase cost-of-living-adjustments; and lift more seniors out of poverty by increasing the minimum benefits paid to low-income seniors.

Not only is this the right thing to do from a moral perspective, it is also what the vast majority of the American people want us to do. 61 percent of the American people support expanding Social Security benefits by lifting the cap on taxable income, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll earlier this year.

At a time when millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages, even as virtually all of the new income in this country is going to the top one percent, Sen. Sanders’ legislation will begin to reduce the obscene level of income inequality in America.

It’s time to expand Social Security to make sure that everyone in this country can retire with the dignity and respect they deserve.
.

Yeah expand it to cover illegals, Bernie is a friken genius full faith and credit of the 19 trillion dollar debt

ever notice republicans go to the extreme when confronted with facts ... first this ass clown goes after benghazi ... then social security ... now its health care ... he/she never uses a factual source ...he/she never goes to the cbo ...they just spouts off what they read on whirlynutdaily or some right wing nut job site .. why next welfare takes up 90% of the national budget

 

[kaz]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

 

[sealybobo]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Bottom line is the middle class has it too good in Michigan and so companies like ford are moving out.

I'm not a trump fan but he does call Republicans out for this. And stop saying Democrats do it too. Stop saying Clinton signed NAFTA. Yea true, because you had a gun to his head.

 

[Seawytch]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

 

[sealybobo]

When trump talks about making America great again and bringing jobs back home, keep in mind he'll bring those jobs back but now they are $8-$15 hr jobs. So those people are gonna organize

 

[tinydancer]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

All the EM'S were Democrats.

 

[kaz]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

Strawman

Only someone completely clueless or who is a complete partisan whore would think that one person caused that crisis and that while virtually everyone else involved through the history of that crisis was a Democrat it, nope, it was entirely the one Republican.

Do some reading on the topic and come back when you're not ignorant on the subject

 

[tinydancer]

Obviously it has to come up every once in a while the decision to change to Flint River wasn't because of $$$$$ It was because the Flint City Council signed a new deal with KWA and pissed off Detroit Water and Sewage who then in a hissy fit decided to whack the city of Flint.

Flint River was forced on the city of Flint by Detroit while they had to wait for KWA to be completed.

Let's get some fucking truth out there.

 

[tinydancer]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

Strawman

Only someone completely clueless or who is a complete partisan whore would think that one person caused that crisis and that while virtually everyone else involved through the history of that crisis was a Democrat it, nope, it was entirely the one Republican.

Do some reading on the topic and come back when you're not ignorant on the subject

It's jaw dropping unreal that no one wants to get to the bottom of this but instead just want to remove Snyder. For crying out loud the freaking EPA hid the lead levels.

 

[Seawytch]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

Strawman

Only someone completely clueless or who is a complete partisan whore would think that one person caused that crisis and that while virtually everyone else involved through the history of that crisis was a Democrat it, nope, it was entirely the one Republican.

Do some reading on the topic and come back when you're not ignorant on the subject

Not a strawman and central to this whole crisis. Maybe if the democratic process in Flint had not been suspended, this tragedy wouldn't have happened.

Practically everyone involved in this from the start was appointed by or answered to the governor. I've been following this subject before it became national news. In fact, I was the first to post a topic on it.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

"a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents"
The financial issues in Flint are typical Liberal mismangement problems and have nothing to do with Republicans.

Nothing like sound fiscal policy which poisons people! Once the lawsuits and pipe replacements have finally been tallied up, I'm pretty sure the Republican psychopaths who killed all those people will have cost Flint quite a lot more money than they saved. Not to mention all those brain damaged kids. Of course, they're just a bunch of darkies, right? Who cares!

Its still Liberal mismanagement that brought Flint to this sorry end and by the way I have mixed race children so try that race card shit somewere else.

how can a liberal mismanage this when snyder remove all of the people who were elected and put his chosen ones in place to make all the decisisions ... can you explain that tiny tid bit of reality for us ??? did the republicans fuck it up then try to push it on the city government that they removed from power... now they need a whipping post ...

Liberals have mismanaged the city for decades.

 

[Seawytch]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

All the EM'S were Democrats.

Yes, you keep saying that and then ignoring my response...that it doesn't matter what party they belonged to, they were all appointed by and answered ONLY to the governor.

 

[Seawytch]

"a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents"
The financial issues in Flint are typical Liberal mismangement problems and have nothing to do with Republicans.

Nothing like sound fiscal policy which poisons people! Once the lawsuits and pipe replacements have finally been tallied up, I'm pretty sure the Republican psychopaths who killed all those people will have cost Flint quite a lot more money than they saved. Not to mention all those brain damaged kids. Of course, they're just a bunch of darkies, right? Who cares!

Its still Liberal mismanagement that brought Flint to this sorry end and by the way I have mixed race children so try that race card shit somewere else.

how can a liberal mismanage this when snyder remove all of the people who were elected and put his chosen ones in place to make all the decisisions ... can you explain that tiny tid bit of reality for us ??? did the republicans fuck it up then try to push it on the city government that they removed from power... now they need a whipping post ...

Liberals have mismanaged the city for decades.

Did they or did they simply get hit harder by the financial crisis our entire county went through just a few years ago? So the city was mismanaged...guess they deserve to be poisoned by the actions of people appointed by the governor eh? Do you feel that way about the county in Alabama or the city in KY that also went bankrupt? Do they too deserve to be poisoned to save money?

 

[tinydancer]

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

All the EM'S were Democrats.

Yes, you keep saying that and then ignoring my response...that it doesn't matter what party they belonged to, they were all appointed by and answered ONLY to the governor.

And how did they manage to not only not treat the water but make everyone in the DHHS and the MEQ and the EPA lie to everyone?

How did Snyder or his EM's manipulate the data on the lead levels in the water?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

All the EM'S were Democrats.

Yes, you keep saying that and then ignoring my response...that it doesn't matter what party they belonged to, they were all appointed by and answered ONLY to the governor.

Decades of Liberal government leads to Republican Governor appointing a City Manager (Who is a Democrat).
Cause and Effect.

 

[tinydancer]

"a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents"
The financial issues in Flint are typical Liberal mismangement problems and have nothing to do with Republicans.

Nothing like sound fiscal policy which poisons people! Once the lawsuits and pipe replacements have finally been tallied up, I'm pretty sure the Republican psychopaths who killed all those people will have cost Flint quite a lot more money than they saved. Not to mention all those brain damaged kids. Of course, they're just a bunch of darkies, right? Who cares!

Its still Liberal mismanagement that brought Flint to this sorry end and by the way I have mixed race children so try that race card shit somewere else.

how can a liberal mismanage this when snyder remove all of the people who were elected and put his chosen ones in place to make all the decisisions ... can you explain that tiny tid bit of reality for us ??? did the republicans fuck it up then try to push it on the city government that they removed from power... now they need a whipping post ...

Liberals have mismanaged the city for decades.

Did they or did they simply get hit harder by the financial crisis our entire county went through just a few years ago? So the city was mismanaged...guess they deserve to be poisoned by the actions of people appointed by the governor eh? Do you feel that way about the county in Alabama or the city in KY that also went bankrupt? Do they too deserve to be poisoned to save money?

You keep lying about the sequence of events. Liar.

 

[tinydancer]

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

All the EM'S were Democrats.

Yes, you keep saying that and then ignoring my response...that it doesn't matter what party they belonged to, they were all appointed by and answered ONLY to the governor.

Decades of Liberal government leads to Republican Governor appointing a City Manager (Who is a Democrat).
Cause and Effect.

I don't blame a politician for any of this mess. When we do we fall into the D game. All these poor souls aka politicians in this case did was rely on "so called experts" that the water was being treated properly and was safe.

 

[tinydancer]

Flint a making of Republicans? Wow. Republicans made the milk in your refrigerator go bad too, didn't they?

Where's your homework, spanky? It was the Republicans!

I knowI am electrifying but you don't have to honor me with that observation by calling me "Sparky." Heh heh heh.

And the milk in my refrigerator never goes bad because I m in charge of it. Now if a republican invaded my house and took over all my rights and privileges to rule my household, the milk might go bad. didn't you learn anything from the Flint Water Crisis?

My home work? Obviously you didn't do yours or that question would not be necessary.

Right, and only a fucking moron thinks Republicans run the State of Michigan or Flint. "Kaz" is for my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Though it takes little knowledge of Michigan to know what a Democrat State Michigan is and what a Democrat city Flint is. A little knowledge apparently exceeding yours. Which was my point, oh clueless one

Well then...someone who lives in or is from Michigan and holds in near and dear to their hearts would know that Flint was taken over by an Emergency Manager appointed by the Republican governor.

Strawman

Only someone completely clueless or who is a complete partisan whore would think that one person caused that crisis and that while virtually everyone else involved through the history of that crisis was a Democrat it, nope, it was entirely the one Republican.

Do some reading on the topic and come back when you're not ignorant on the subject

Not a strawman and central to this whole crisis. Maybe if the democratic process in Flint had not been suspended, this tragedy wouldn't have happened.

Practically everyone involved in this from the start was appointed by or answered to the governor. I've been following this subject before it became national news. In fact, I was the first to post a topic on it.

I'm a serious water conservationist and I will take you on in a heartbeat over this bullshit in Flint. I'm currently involved in fighting a project called Bi Pole III and the damage to key wetlands in Manitoba and devastation to Monarch Butterfly breeding grounds.

Now tell me about the politics of Flint Miss Know it All. And how the politics poisoned the people.