The Flynn prosecution now stands exposed as massive FBI and DOJ abuse of power

[jc456]

It didn't start with Page. I know more than you. Flynn's part is totally separate. This is silly.

You dont have a clue and all you are doing is deflecting from verifiable facts...

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You don't have facts. This is a phony legal argument. It's not going to fly.

Well shit. you said it was phony and you must know.

I mean you always back up what you emo out, gumby.

You’ve done nothing in this thread to demonstrate anything improper was done to Flynn.

He lied to the FBI. He’s trying to weasel out of taking responsibility.

Do these guys know that Flynn confessed and had a lawyer beside him the whole time. I am sure he had a lawyer beside him when he lied...

see post #60

 

[Slade3200]

https://nypost.com/2020/01/31/the-f...xposed-as-massive-fbi-and-doj-abuse-of-power/

"Even so, Strzok and Pientka wound up finding “no indication” that Flynn had lied to them. But then FBI lawyer Lisa Page (Strzok’s mistress at the time) instructed them to alter their official writeup of the conversation to say otherwise. And that’s the entire basis of the charges against him."

more altering things to get your "evidence".

Why did Trump fire Flynn?

Cause it's what Trump loves to do I suppose.

why did page alter what he said?

Come on Ice, let’s be straight... I don’t know why Page altered what Flynn said or if that’s what really happened. If she did without cause the she should be arrested. The IG didn’t find wrong doing so I’m skeptical about the reports in your OP.

But there has been official explanations released by Trumps White House explaining why Trump fired Flynn. You know the answer. It’s OK to say it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

It didn't start with Page. I know more than you. Flynn's part is totally separate. This is silly.

You dont have a clue and all you are doing is deflecting from verifiable facts...

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You don't have facts. This is a phony legal argument. It's not going to fly.

Well shit. you said it was phony and you must know.

I mean you always back up what you emo out, gumby.

You’ve done nothing in this thread to demonstrate anything improper was done to Flynn.

He lied to the FBI. He’s trying to weasel out of taking responsibility.

Do these guys know that Flynn confessed and had a lawyer beside him the whole time. I am sure he had a lawyer beside him when he lied...

LOL...

Flynn fired those lawyers when he found out they were in cahootz with prosecutors... Now that he has one looking out for his interests the game is over...

 

[iceberg]

https://nypost.com/2020/01/31/the-f...xposed-as-massive-fbi-and-doj-abuse-of-power/

"Even so, Strzok and Pientka wound up finding “no indication” that Flynn had lied to them. But then FBI lawyer Lisa Page (Strzok’s mistress at the time) instructed them to alter their official writeup of the conversation to say otherwise. And that’s the entire basis of the charges against him."

more altering things to get your "evidence".

Why did Trump fire Flynn?

Cause it's what Trump loves to do I suppose.

why did page alter what he said?

Come on Ice, let’s be straight... I don’t know why Page altered what Flynn said or if that’s what really happened. If she did without cause the she should be arrested. The IG didn’t find wrong doing so I’m skeptical about the reports in your OP.

But there has been official explanations released by Trumps White House explaining why Trump fired Flynn. You know the answer. It’s OK to say it.

start a thread on it and I'll look into it and dive in.

got enough trolls already pulling distraction shit to keep them from backing up the shit they say. like saying "I don't know why she did it, but no one cared so come to my topic" crap.

 

[Votto]

https://nypost.com/2020/01/31/the-f...xposed-as-massive-fbi-and-doj-abuse-of-power/

"Even so, Strzok and Pientka wound up finding “no indication” that Flynn had lied to them. But then FBI lawyer Lisa Page (Strzok’s mistress at the time) instructed them to alter their official writeup of the conversation to say otherwise. And that’s the entire basis of the charges against him."

more altering things to get your "evidence".

Listen, just one lie to the FBI and you go to jail. Those are the rules. Otherwise, you would have to entertain the notion of a deep state at work.

 

[the other mike]

Yep!

This was a railroad job from day one...

And if the bitch was president, he'd be rotting in federal prison for the rest of his life.
You know what his first mistake was ? Trying to blow the whistle on Libya.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Therr was no falsifying of evidence. That’s why the op-Ed is garbage.

uh huh

forgive me if I simply think you are full of shit.

you speak specifically in vague terms. come back when you actually say something l.

Basically everything Flynn has been saying about this case since he switched lawyers has been bogus. The right wing media has been making unsubstantiated allegations as well.

There was no falsifying of evidence. No evidence was withheld. Flynn wasn’t ambushed. They never denied him a lawyer. It wasn’t a perjury trap. The agents never stated they didn’t believe he was lying. Lisa Page proofread the report. She didn’t alter it substantively, just rewrote some sections which were badly worded.

The case isn’t collapsing. Flynn pled guilty before a court (under oath) and to get they reversed he has so show some good reason as to why he would have lied to them (or why his lies were immaterial) and so far that isn’t forthcoming. His judge hasn’t been impressed by his new counsel and it’s an outside chance he’s allowed to withdraw his plea.

Although I very much hope he does. I want to see this trial.

you should go tell the judge. I mean, you seem to know more than him.

I don’t need to. The judge knows more about this than me.

Read for yourself what Sullivan has had to say on the matter.
Federal Judge Rejects Flynn Attorney’s Request for Evidence, Says Filing Raised ‘Ethical Concerns’

Judge sets high bar for Michael Flynn to withdraw guilty plea

In a brief order Friday, Judge Sullivan said Flynn's lawyers should file legal briefs addressing whether the court should hold a hearing "where the parties would present all testimony and evidence concerning the issue of whether Mr. Flynn can show that there is good cause to set aside his guilty pleas."

Such a hearing, the judge said, might include "testimony from Mr. Flynn and other witnesses under oath, subject to cross-examination, to show any 'fair and just reason' for this court to grant his motion to withdraw."

I would love to see Strozk and Page under oath... With the IG's evidence of criminal misconduct this thing is about to implode...

 

[jc456]

uh huh

forgive me if I simply think you are full of shit.

you speak specifically in vague terms. come back when you actually say something l.

Basically everything Flynn has been saying about this case since he switched lawyers has been bogus. The right wing media has been making unsubstantiated allegations as well.

There was no falsifying of evidence. No evidence was withheld. Flynn wasn’t ambushed. They never denied him a lawyer. It wasn’t a perjury trap. The agents never stated they didn’t believe he was lying. Lisa Page proofread the report. She didn’t alter it substantively, just rewrote some sections which were badly worded.

The case isn’t collapsing. Flynn pled guilty before a court (under oath) and to get they reversed he has so show some good reason as to why he would have lied to them (or why his lies were immaterial) and so far that isn’t forthcoming. His judge hasn’t been impressed by his new counsel and it’s an outside chance he’s allowed to withdraw his plea.

Although I very much hope he does. I want to see this trial.

you should go tell the judge. I mean, you seem to know more than him.

I don’t need to. The judge knows more about this than me.

Read for yourself what Sullivan has had to say on the matter.
Federal Judge Rejects Flynn Attorney’s Request for Evidence, Says Filing Raised ‘Ethical Concerns’

Judge sets high bar for Michael Flynn to withdraw guilty plea

In a brief order Friday, Judge Sullivan said Flynn's lawyers should file legal briefs addressing whether the court should hold a hearing "where the parties would present all testimony and evidence concerning the issue of whether Mr. Flynn can show that there is good cause to set aside his guilty pleas."

Such a hearing, the judge said, might include "testimony from Mr. Flynn and other witnesses under oath, subject to cross-examination, to show any 'fair and just reason' for this court to grant his motion to withdraw."

I would love to see Strozk and Page under oath... With the IG's evidence of criminal misconduct this thing is about to implode...

exactly, hmmmm it seems Page will need to answer for her order to Strozk.

 

[Slade3200]

https://nypost.com/2020/01/31/the-f...xposed-as-massive-fbi-and-doj-abuse-of-power/

"Even so, Strzok and Pientka wound up finding “no indication” that Flynn had lied to them. But then FBI lawyer Lisa Page (Strzok’s mistress at the time) instructed them to alter their official writeup of the conversation to say otherwise. And that’s the entire basis of the charges against him."

more altering things to get your "evidence".

Why did Trump fire Flynn?

Cause it's what Trump loves to do I suppose.

why did page alter what he said?

Come on Ice, let’s be straight... I don’t know why Page altered what Flynn said or if that’s what really happened. If she did without cause the she should be arrested. The IG didn’t find wrong doing so I’m skeptical about the reports in your OP.

But there has been official explanations released by Trumps White House explaining why Trump fired Flynn. You know the answer. It’s OK to say it.

start a thread on it and I'll look into it and dive in.

got enough trolls already pulling distraction shit to keep them from backing up the shit they say. like saying "I don't know why she did it, but no one cared so come to my topic" crap.

I wasn’t changing the topic. Flynn was fired for lying. Your topic is about whether Flynn lied to the FBI. You don’t think that’s relevant?

 

[colfax_m]

uh huh

forgive me if I simply think you are full of shit.

you speak specifically in vague terms. come back when you actually say something l.

Basically everything Flynn has been saying about this case since he switched lawyers has been bogus. The right wing media has been making unsubstantiated allegations as well.

There was no falsifying of evidence. No evidence was withheld. Flynn wasn’t ambushed. They never denied him a lawyer. It wasn’t a perjury trap. The agents never stated they didn’t believe he was lying. Lisa Page proofread the report. She didn’t alter it substantively, just rewrote some sections which were badly worded.

The case isn’t collapsing. Flynn pled guilty before a court (under oath) and to get they reversed he has so show some good reason as to why he would have lied to them (or why his lies were immaterial) and so far that isn’t forthcoming. His judge hasn’t been impressed by his new counsel and it’s an outside chance he’s allowed to withdraw his plea.

Although I very much hope he does. I want to see this trial.

you should go tell the judge. I mean, you seem to know more than him.

I don’t need to. The judge knows more about this than me.

Read for yourself what Sullivan has had to say on the matter.
Federal Judge Rejects Flynn Attorney’s Request for Evidence, Says Filing Raised ‘Ethical Concerns’

Judge sets high bar for Michael Flynn to withdraw guilty plea

In a brief order Friday, Judge Sullivan said Flynn's lawyers should file legal briefs addressing whether the court should hold a hearing "where the parties would present all testimony and evidence concerning the issue of whether Mr. Flynn can show that there is good cause to set aside his guilty pleas."

Such a hearing, the judge said, might include "testimony from Mr. Flynn and other witnesses under oath, subject to cross-examination, to show any 'fair and just reason' for this court to grant his motion to withdraw."

I would love to see Strozk and Page under oath... With the IG's evidence of criminal misconduct this thing is about to implode...

They’ve testified under oath and penalty of perjury numerous times.

Nothing has imploded.

 

[colfax_m]

You dont have a clue and all you are doing is deflecting from verifiable facts...

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You don't have facts. This is a phony legal argument. It's not going to fly.

Well shit. you said it was phony and you must know.

I mean you always back up what you emo out, gumby.

You’ve done nothing in this thread to demonstrate anything improper was done to Flynn.

He lied to the FBI. He’s trying to weasel out of taking responsibility.

Do these guys know that Flynn confessed and had a lawyer beside him the whole time. I am sure he had a lawyer beside him when he lied...

LOL...

Flynn fired those lawyers when he found out they were in cahootz with prosecutors... Now that he has one looking out for his interests the game is over...

His last lawyers were going to get him off without any prison. Flynn’s new lawyers are going to get him locked up.

 

[The Original Tree]

https://nypost.com/2020/01/31/the-f...xposed-as-massive-fbi-and-doj-abuse-of-power/

"Even so, Strzok and Pientka wound up finding “no indication” that Flynn had lied to them. But then FBI lawyer Lisa Page (Strzok’s mistress at the time) instructed them to alter their official writeup of the conversation to say otherwise. And that’s the entire basis of the charges against him."

more altering things to get your "evidence".

As I said at the very beginning, Flynn will end up a rich man!

 

[The Original Tree]

That op-ed was idiotic and a complete distortion of the truth.

that seems to be the norm these days.

the bottom line is obama's FBI/DOJ has been busted several times now for falsifying evidence, yet you cry FOUL and LIES and the sort. but you have zero issue pushing an agenda against trump based on heresay and speculation and some mythical "people go to jail on circumstantial evidence all the time!" and never once proved it with a case or 2.

this is the world we're all creating. just that the left seems to be leading the way.

Mueller himself had been busted for manufacturing evidence, altering witness testimony, & hiding exculpatory evidence, so how in the Hell can the guy in charge of The Antrhax Debacle and Enron case where he knowingly railroaded innocent men to jail have ever been anywhere near The Hoax Russia Investigation?

And let's not forget, this ASSHOLE, Destroyed Evidence and Obstructed Justice when he wiped Page and Strozk's phones and then committed perjury to the IG when he said he didn't know how all those messages disappeared.

Mueller also completely ignored the "source of his investigation" Russian Propaganda purchased by The Obama Administration, and Clinton from Putin.

Mueller then we later find out, that he didn't write a single word of the very report with his name on it.

 

[Slade3200]

That op-ed was idiotic and a complete distortion of the truth.

that seems to be the norm these days.

the bottom line is obama's FBI/DOJ has been busted several times now for falsifying evidence, yet you cry FOUL and LIES and the sort. but you have zero issue pushing an agenda against trump based on heresay and speculation and some mythical "people go to jail on circumstantial evidence all the time!" and never once proved it with a case or 2.

this is the world we're all creating. just that the left seems to be leading the way.

Mueller himself had been busted for manufacturing evidence and altering witness testimony so how in the Hell can the guy in charge of The Antrhax Debacle and Enron case where he knowingly railroaded innocent men to jail have ever been anywhere near The Hoax Russia Investigation?

And let's not forget, this ASSHOLE, destroyed evidence and Obstructed Justice when he wiped Page and Strozk's phones and then committed perjury to the IG when he said he didn't know how all those messages disappeared.

Mueller also completely ignored the "source of his investigation" Russian Propaganda purchased by The Obama Administration, and Clinton from Putin.

Mueller then we later find out, that he didn't write a single word of the very report with his name on it.

Mueller has been busted?! Really? Is he going to jail, paying a fine, being held accountable by Trumps DOJ at all? What’s being done?

 

[The Original Tree]

That op-ed was idiotic and a complete distortion of the truth.

that seems to be the norm these days.

the bottom line is obama's FBI/DOJ has been busted several times now for falsifying evidence, yet you cry FOUL and LIES and the sort. but you have zero issue pushing an agenda against trump based on heresay and speculation and some mythical "people go to jail on circumstantial evidence all the time!" and never once proved it with a case or 2.

this is the world we're all creating. just that the left seems to be leading the way.

Mueller himself had been busted for manufacturing evidence and altering witness testimony so how in the Hell can the guy in charge of The Antrhax Debacle and Enron case where he knowingly railroaded innocent men to jail have ever been anywhere near The Hoax Russia Investigation?

And let's not forget, this ASSHOLE, destroyed evidence and Obstructed Justice when he wiped Page and Strozk's phones and then committed perjury to the IG when he said he didn't know how all those messages disappeared.

Mueller also completely ignored the "source of his investigation" Russian Propaganda purchased by The Obama Administration, and Clinton from Putin.

Mueller then we later find out, that he didn't write a single word of the very report with his name on it.

Mueller has been busted?! Really? Is he going to jail, paying a fine, being held accountable by Trumps DOJ at all? What’s being done?

Of course he won't go to jail. So long as there are layers of Deep State-Socialists-Satanists Globalists in our Government betraying our country & covering for each other, most of these people will never see jail time when 100 years ago, about 50 of them would have been lined up against a wall and shot.

Why do you think The Clinton Campaign & The Podesta Group were given blanket immunity from Prosecution (200 People) and not 1 single person, volunteer, associate, or staff member associated with Trump was offered immunity in exchange for testimony?

Are you STUPID or do you just PLAY DUMB?

 

[Slade3200]

That op-ed was idiotic and a complete distortion of the truth.

that seems to be the norm these days.

the bottom line is obama's FBI/DOJ has been busted several times now for falsifying evidence, yet you cry FOUL and LIES and the sort. but you have zero issue pushing an agenda against trump based on heresay and speculation and some mythical "people go to jail on circumstantial evidence all the time!" and never once proved it with a case or 2.

this is the world we're all creating. just that the left seems to be leading the way.

Mueller himself had been busted for manufacturing evidence and altering witness testimony so how in the Hell can the guy in charge of The Antrhax Debacle and Enron case where he knowingly railroaded innocent men to jail have ever been anywhere near The Hoax Russia Investigation?

And let's not forget, this ASSHOLE, destroyed evidence and Obstructed Justice when he wiped Page and Strozk's phones and then committed perjury to the IG when he said he didn't know how all those messages disappeared.

Mueller also completely ignored the "source of his investigation" Russian Propaganda purchased by The Obama Administration, and Clinton from Putin.

Mueller then we later find out, that he didn't write a single word of the very report with his name on it.

Mueller has been busted?! Really? Is he going to jail, paying a fine, being held accountable by Trumps DOJ at all? What’s being done?

Of course he won't go to jail. So long as there are layers of Deep State-Socialists-Satanists Globalists in our Government betraying our country & covering for each other, most of these people will never see jail time when 100 years ago, about 50 of them would have been lined up against a wall and shot.

Why do you think The Clinton Campaign & The Podesta Group were given blanket immunity from Prosecution (200 People) and not 1 single person, volunteer, associate, or staff member associated with Trump was offered immunity in exchange for testimony?

Are you STUPID or do you just PLAY DUMB?

i just go on the fact and don’t run wild with crazy conspiracy narratives. So Trump and Barr the leaders of the executive and DOJ... you think they are deep staters covering for the Dems?! How does that make sense? And why wouldn’t they be going after Mueller if he is as guilty as you claim?

your shit is too easy to debunk. It’s comical.

 

[The Original Tree]

That op-ed was idiotic and a complete distortion of the truth.

that seems to be the norm these days.

the bottom line is obama's FBI/DOJ has been busted several times now for falsifying evidence, yet you cry FOUL and LIES and the sort. but you have zero issue pushing an agenda against trump based on heresay and speculation and some mythical "people go to jail on circumstantial evidence all the time!" and never once proved it with a case or 2.

this is the world we're all creating. just that the left seems to be leading the way.

Mueller himself had been busted for manufacturing evidence and altering witness testimony so how in the Hell can the guy in charge of The Antrhax Debacle and Enron case where he knowingly railroaded innocent men to jail have ever been anywhere near The Hoax Russia Investigation?

And let's not forget, this ASSHOLE, destroyed evidence and Obstructed Justice when he wiped Page and Strozk's phones and then committed perjury to the IG when he said he didn't know how all those messages disappeared.

Mueller also completely ignored the "source of his investigation" Russian Propaganda purchased by The Obama Administration, and Clinton from Putin.

Mueller then we later find out, that he didn't write a single word of the very report with his name on it.

Mueller has been busted?! Really? Is he going to jail, paying a fine, being held accountable by Trumps DOJ at all? What’s being done?

Of course he won't go to jail. So long as there are layers of Deep State-Socialists-Satanists Globalists in our Government betraying our country & covering for each other, most of these people will never see jail time when 100 years ago, about 50 of them would have been lined up against a wall and shot.

Why do you think The Clinton Campaign & The Podesta Group were given blanket immunity from Prosecution (200 People) and not 1 single person, volunteer, associate, or staff member associated with Trump was offered immunity in exchange for testimony?

Are you STUPID or do you just PLAY DUMB?

i just go on the fact and don’t run wild with crazy conspiracy narratives. So Trump and Barr the leaders of the executive and DOJ... you think they are deep staters covering for the Dems?! How does that make sense? And why wouldn’t they be going after Mueller if he is as guilty as you claim?

your shit is too easy to debunk. It’s comical.

Why don't you tell us Why The Obama Administration Ordered Blanket Immunity for The Entire Clinton Campaign & Podesta Group including The Podesta Brothers. That's over 200 people.

How many people in The Trump campaign were given immunity by contrast?

And then please explain your reasoning, if you have any at all, besides bullshit and deflection.

And then when you are done with that, explain how Democrats thought it was a good idea to throw Due Process out the window on their shampeachment inquiry and then rig the game by calling 21 Witnesses and allowing The President just 1.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Flynn will not go to jail.

His Judge is as crazy as a sprayed roach, but even he will not send this 30 year combat veteran to jail.

The question is if those who illegally pursued him will go to jail. Both Strzok and Pienta should already be behind bars, along with McCabe. There is still hope for Justice on them.

Meh. I doubt any of the Coup Plotters and actors are losing any sleep

A little Fascism never hurt anyone

"The indictments of felonious Democrats are absent because Republicans are stupid." - Paul Craig Roberts

 

[depotoo]

That op-ed was idiotic and a complete distortion of the truth.

that seems to be the norm these days.

the bottom line is obama's FBI/DOJ has been busted several times now for falsifying evidence, yet you cry FOUL and LIES and the sort. but you have zero issue pushing an agenda against trump based on heresay and speculation and some mythical "people go to jail on circumstantial evidence all the time!" and never once proved it with a case or 2.

this is the world we're all creating. just that the left seems to be leading the way.

Therr was no falsifying of evidence. That’s why the op-Ed is garbage.

Oh, really?
FBI lawyer under criminal investigation altered document to say Carter Page 'was not a source' for another agency
And it is far from the first time-
FBI Agent Pleads Guilty to Falsifying Records, Stealing Drug Evidence
Ex-FBI agent charged with leaking sentenced to 48 months

 

[Seawytch]

Flynn pleaded guilty.../end thread