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No, Bush I's mistake was not finishing off Saddam. That much is clear. Apparently 100s of thousands of Iraqi children were dying because of sanctions according to some, but how soon we forget.Totally wrong.
First, Bush Sr. wisely gave a lot of leeway to the leaders on the ground to fight the war and just keep him informed.
Secondly, he contained the operation to achieve a SET GOAL - to wipe out Saddam's ability to wage war. There was never an intention to occupy Iraq or remove Saddam.
Bush played Kuwait correctly.
While it was tempting to invade Iraq as its army fled over the borders, Bush knew that invading and occupying Iraq would tie us up in a civil disturbance for a decade.
Too bad his son did not heed that advice. W wanted an excuse to invade Iraq as soon as he took office and looked for a way to pin 9-11 on Hussein. When that failed he cooked intelligence data on WMDs
How about Bush senior? He won a popular war and could not get reelected?
He collapsed to the pansy UN and did not finish a war which led us to a situation later to have to finish it.... if he would have had more of a backbone. we would have done the deed completely and right the first time
Totally wrong.
First, Bush Sr. wisely gave a lot of leeway to the leaders on the ground to fight the war and just keep him informed.
Secondly, he contained the operation to achieve a SET GOAL - to wipe out Saddam's ability to wage war. There was never an intention to occupy Iraq or remove Saddam.
Bush played Kuwait correctly.
While it was tempting to invade Iraq as its army fled over the borders, Bush knew that invading and occupying Iraq would tie us up in a civil disturbance for a decade.
Too bad his son did not heed that advice. W wanted an excuse to invade Iraq as soon as he took office and looked for a way to pin 9-11 on Hussein. When that failed he cooked intelligence data on WMDs
Totally wrong.
First, Bush Sr. wisely gave a lot of leeway to the leaders on the ground to fight the war and just keep him informed.
Secondly, he contained the operation to achieve a SET GOAL - to wipe out Saddam's ability to wage war. There was never an intention to occupy Iraq or remove Saddam.
Bush played Kuwait correctly.
While it was tempting to invade Iraq as its army fled over the borders, Bush knew that invading and occupying Iraq would tie us up in a civil disturbance for a decade.
Too bad his son did not heed that advice. W wanted an excuse to invade Iraq as soon as he took office and looked for a way to pin 9-11 on Hussein. When that failed he cooked intelligence data on WMDs
So based on these Democrats THEY WERE WRONG as was Bush???
Also, Bush Sr. HAD Saddam sign the 1991 Cease Fire which stipulates if Saddam breaks which he did over 2 dozen times or more..
THE CEASE FIRE was off!
32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.
Most historians both at home and abroad consider FDR to be one of the greatest American Presidents
Only the revisionist, Bizarro land libertarians and Conservatives rate him poorly. But that is to be expected
yeah.. his attempts to thwart the constitution, to actually thwart the constitution, and implement big government 'social' programs that were nothing more than ponzi schemes were indeed bad... a lot of idiot reporters, professors, authors, pundits, etc rate him high for the myths about WWII and 'bringing us out of the depression'... those labeled as 'historians' can be idiots also
Yes....Only Libertarians can truly assess a president
How about Bush senior? He won a popular war and could not get reelected?
He collapsed to the pansy UN and did not finish a war which led us to a situation later to have to finish it.... if he would have had more of a backbone. we would have done the deed completely and right the first time
Totally wrong.
First, Bush Sr. wisely gave a lot of leeway to the leaders on the ground to fight the war and just keep him informed.
Secondly, he contained the operation to achieve a SET GOAL - to wipe out Saddam's ability to wage war. There was never an intention to occupy Iraq or remove Saddam.
How about Bush senior? He won a popular war and could not get reelected?
He collapsed to the pansy UN and did not finish a war which led us to a situation later to have to finish it.... if he would have had more of a backbone. we would have done the deed completely and right the first time
Totally wrong.
First, Bush Sr. wisely gave a lot of leeway to the leaders on the ground to fight the war and just keep him informed.
Secondly, he contained the operation to achieve a SET GOAL - to wipe out Saddam's ability to wage war. There was never an intention to occupy Iraq or remove Saddam.
Bush played Kuwait correctly.
While it was tempting to invade Iraq as its army fled over the borders, Bush knew that invading and occupying Iraq would tie us up in a civil disturbance for a decade.
Too bad his son did not heed that advice. W wanted an excuse to invade Iraq as soon as he took office and looked for a way to pin 9-11 on Hussein. When that failed he cooked intelligence data on WMDs
Bush played Kuwait correctly.
While it was tempting to invade Iraq as its army fled over the borders, Bush knew that invading and occupying Iraq would tie us up in a civil disturbance for a decade.
Too bad his son did not heed that advice. W wanted an excuse to invade Iraq as soon as he took office and looked for a way to pin 9-11 on Hussein. When that failed he cooked intelligence data on WMDs
So based on these Democrats THEY WERE WRONG as was Bush???
Also, Bush Sr. HAD Saddam sign the 1991 Cease Fire which stipulates if Saddam breaks which he did over 2 dozen times or more..
THE CEASE FIRE was off!
32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.
George HW Bush and Bill Clinton had no problems containing Saddam Hussein
It was only W who felt the need to invade
William Henry Harrison only lived for 30 days after being inaugurated. Hard to lable the guy the worst
In my lifetime, George W Bush was the worst with Carter next
What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.
AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.
ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...
Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!
George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy
What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.
AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.
ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...
Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!
George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy
Bush didn't rally the country. The country came together on its own based on what was perceived as an existential. In other words, the country just rallied itself. Carrot Top could have been president, and the results would have been the same. What I'm saying is that the country would have rallied around Stephen Hawking who's in a wheel chair and unable to speak intelligibly, which, now that I think about it, was something Bush had in common with Hawking (not the wheel chair part).
George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy
Bush didn't rally the country. The country came together on its own based on what was perceived as an existential. In other words, the country just rallied itself. Carrot Top could have been president, and the results would have been the same. What I'm saying is that the country would have rallied around Stephen Hawking who's in a wheel chair and unable to speak intelligibly, which, now that I think about it, was something Bush had in common with Hawking (not the wheel chair part).
In the days following 9-11, Bush did a masterful job. His speech at ground zero was the highlight of his career. He had 80% domestic approval ratings and the support of the world in fighting the threat of terrorism
But Bush got greedy. He started cashing in his 9-11 chips for anything on the Republican agenda. Rather than assemble a global coalition to combat terrorism, Bush went out on his own. His decision to invade Afghanistan was universally accepted at home and abroad. But when he started banging the drum over Iraq, his support started to fade
The invasion of Iraq was the biggest blunder of his Presidency
How about Bush senior? He won a popular war and could not get reelected?
He collapsed to the pansy UN and did not finish a war which led us to a situation later to have to finish it.... if he would have had more of a backbone. we would have done the deed completely and right the first time
Totally wrong.
First, Bush Sr. wisely gave a lot of leeway to the leaders on the ground to fight the war and just keep him informed.
Secondly, he contained the operation to achieve a SET GOAL - to wipe out Saddam's ability to wage war. There was never an intention to occupy Iraq or remove Saddam.
Completely right
When you wage a war you fight to win and you finish it.. Bush Sr was too worried about the opinion of a humanitarian body that thinks it is a world government...
Signed
Soldier During Desert Shield and Desert Storm
George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy
Bush didn't rally the country. The country came together on its own based on what was perceived as an existential. In other words, the country just rallied itself. Carrot Top could have been president, and the results would have been the same. What I'm saying is that the country would have rallied around Stephen Hawking who's in a wheel chair and unable to speak intelligibly, which, now that I think about it, was something Bush had in common with Hawking (not the wheel chair part).
In the days following 9-11, Bush did a masterful job. His speech at ground zero was the highlight of his career. He had 80% domestic approval ratings and the support of the world in fighting the threat of terrorism
But Bush got greedy. He started cashing in his 9-11 chips for anything on the Republican agenda. Rather than assemble a global coalition to combat terrorism, Bush went out on his own. His decision to invade Afghanistan was universally accepted at home and abroad. But when he started banging the drum over Iraq, his support started to fade
The invasion of Iraq was the biggest blunder of his Presidency
What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.
AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.
ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...
Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!
George W Bush was an interesting case. He was given events and crisis during his Presidency that he could have stamped himself as one of our greatest Presidents. After 9-11 he rallied the country and the world around him.....he was destined for greatness
Instead, he squandered that support to push through a questionable agenda. His attempts at nation building were disasters. He abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq. He trumped up WMD histeria. He engaged in torture and created Gitmo.
Then there was the worst economic collapse in 70 years where Bush went from denial to a hands off approach as he waited for a self correction. It was not until the last three months that he actually did something about the economy
Bush didn't rally the country. The country came together on its own based on what was perceived as an existential threat. In other words, the country just rallied itself. Carrot Top could have been president, and the results would have been the same. What I'm saying is that the country would have rallied around Stephen Hawking who's in a wheel chair and unable to speak intelligibly, which, now that I think about it, was something Bush had in common with Hawking (not the wheel chair part).
If I had to pick the worst one, it would be FDR. He held office over three terms, much of that time terribly ill (which was purposely concealed from the American people), prolonged the Great Depression harming millions with his dumb policies. Pushed us into a needless war whose consequence lead to more suffering and turned the world's most vile nation and political ideology (which he approved of and admired) into a superpower leading to decades of cold war and more suffering and death. Surrounded himself with Stalinist spies thus allowing the USSR to ruthlessly enslave half of Europe. And it goes on and on and on and on................
Nice resume for a POTUS the left loves and admires. Further proof...not that further proof is needed.... that they are delusional bordering on CRAZY.
FDR is frequently cited as one of the top 3 best presidents along with Lincoln and Washington. He was elected and RE-elected with HUUUUUGE margins, and he did win a total of "four" elections. It's a very tough sell to label FDR as a bad president with numbers like that.
If I had to pick the worst one, it would be FDR. He held office over three terms, much of that time terribly ill (which was purposely concealed from the American people), prolonged the Great Depression harming millions with his dumb policies. Pushed us into a needless war whose consequence lead to more suffering and turned the world's most vile nation and political ideology (which he approved of and admired) into a superpower leading to decades of cold war and more suffering and death. Surrounded himself with Stalinist spies thus allowing the USSR to ruthlessly enslave half of Europe. And it goes on and on and on and on................
Nice resume for a POTUS the left loves and admires. Further proof...not that further proof is needed.... that they are delusional bordering on CRAZY.
FDR is frequently cited as one of the top 3 best presidents along with Lincoln and Washington. He was elected and RE-elected with HUUUUUGE margins, and he did win a total of "four" elections. It's a very tough sell to label FDR as a bad president with numbers like that.
Look at what he did, not his ability to win elections.
he dragged out the depression, after a while you have to assume it was intentional
got us involved in ww2
imprisoned innocent citizens
did experiments, cruel ones, on black Americans
fdr should have been arrested, tried, then executed.
not lauded by liars
FDR is frequently cited as one of the top 3 best presidents along with Lincoln and Washington. He was elected and RE-elected with HUUUUUGE margins, and he did win a total of "four" elections. It's a very tough sell to label FDR as a bad president with numbers like that.
Look at what he did, not his ability to win elections.
he dragged out the depression, after a while you have to assume it was intentional
got us involved in ww2
imprisoned innocent citizens
did experiments, cruel ones, on black Americans
fdr should have been arrested, tried, then executed.
not lauded by liars
FDR dragged a country that was entrenched in isolationism and in the midst of the worst depression in history
He turned us into a modern democracy and the worlds eminent superpower
The greatest president in Modern history
Look at what he did, not his ability to win elections.
he dragged out the depression, after a while you have to assume it was intentional
got us involved in ww2
imprisoned innocent citizens
did experiments, cruel ones, on black Americans
fdr should have been arrested, tried, then executed.
not lauded by liars
FDR dragged a country that was entrenched in isolationism and in the midst of the worst depression in history
He turned us into a modern democracy and the worlds eminent superpower
The greatest president in Modern history
rofl... glad to see you are back on your usual bs track.
The Four Worst American Presidents
by OjibwaFollow for History for Kossacks
Since the adoption of its constitution, 43 men have been President of the United States. In January 2013, a New York Times journalist and statistician put together a composite list of presidential rankings based on previous presidential rankings by scholars (primarily historians). According to this, the worst four are: (43) James Buchanan (Democrat) (42); Franklin Pierce (Democrat) (41) Warren G. Harding (Republican); and (40) William Henry Harrison (Whig).
According to this list, the four most recent presidents ranked as follows: Barrack Obama is ranked as 17; George W. Bush is ranked as 38; Bill Clinton is ranked as 18; and George H.W. Bush is ranked as 22.
A very short description of the worst presidents follows.
William Henry Harrison only lived for 30 days after being inaugurated. Hard to lable the guy the worst
In my lifetime, George W Bush was the worst with Carter next
What did GWB do?
1) He inherited a recession that started under Clinton (3/2001 to 11/01)
2) The dot.com bust happened lost $5 trillion and 300,000 jobs lost was that his fault?
3) 9/11 (Remember that???) cost $1 trillion 18,000 businesses lost, 145,000 jobs lost..3,000 lives.. was that his fault?
4) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history destroyed $1 trillion,400,000 jobs lost. 1,836 lives.. again GWB's fault?
5) Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market.. almost caused world economic collapse.
AND yet in spite of the loss of nearly $60 billion a year in tax revenue from that the deficit was declining with last year less the $160 billion.
And when he took office there were 5 million less people employed then when he left office!
And the GDP grew 16% in his 8 years.
ALL that in spite of a MSM that said "our job is to bash Bush".. yet this same MSM calls Obama a "god"?
All that in spite of Senators calling our troops "terrorists". "Cold blood killers". "Nazis" "killing civilians"...
Historians when given that context and perspective of time will rate GWB as one of the Greatest President that in spite of
being the ONLY President to have FACED the above events all in one administration with a very hostile MSM and traitors for senators!
Economic terrorist attack 9/18/08 drained $1/2 trillion in 2 hours from $4 trillion money market..
Baloney.
