The good guy, the civilian...used an AR-15 to stop the killer since the police weren't there....

[Jamesonrules]

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

Wow...your reading comprehension sucks....this is an actual survivor....you know...someone who was actually there...

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

He left when he was ready to. The gun saved no one but it did slaughter a whole church.

Wow...you really can't fucking read, can you? the actual survivor stated he was calmly walking around murdering the injured when the good guy with the AR-15 civilian rifle drew him outside the church...saving the lives of the injured...26 of them........

Total BS. He was already outside when your hero with a gun dropped by. He would have been shooting blindly at the church otherwise.

 

[Jamesonrules]

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last. You are not going to lose your ability to protect yourself but you will lose guns like these weapons of war.

The AR-15 is not and never has been a "weapon of War." it is a civilian rifle....do you want to see an actual weapon of war....?

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Those weapons of war you can be allowed. To kill 27 with those you'd need a whole lot of time and luck.

Nope.....you just need a gun free zone and lots of victims......

and as to slaughtering in a short period of time....

Nice, France, a rental Truck.....89 people murdered.....seems to me that is a lot more than 26.....

Bombs are better than guns. We killed tens of thousands with just one not long ago. Those also should be banned.

 

[2aguy]

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

And yet....

Texas shooter....murdered 26 with a rifle.

26 were saved with the same rifle.

Virginia Tech...murdered 32 with 2 pistols.

Luby's Cafe....murdered 23 with 2 pistols....

Nice, France, murdered 89 with a rental truck, injured 450....

 

[Auld Phart]

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

 

[2aguy]

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

Wow...your reading comprehension sucks....this is an actual survivor....you know...someone who was actually there...

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

He left when he was ready to. The gun saved no one but it did slaughter a whole church.

Wow...you really can't fucking read, can you? the actual survivor stated he was calmly walking around murdering the injured when the good guy with the AR-15 civilian rifle drew him outside the church...saving the lives of the injured...26 of them........

Total BS. He was already outside when your hero with a gun dropped by. He would have been shooting blindly at the church otherwise.

Again...not what the survivor stated...........you know, the one actually in the church....

 

[Jamesonrules]

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

 

[Jamesonrules]

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

Wow...your reading comprehension sucks....this is an actual survivor....you know...someone who was actually there...

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

He left when he was ready to. The gun saved no one but it did slaughter a whole church.

Wow...you really can't fucking read, can you? the actual survivor stated he was calmly walking around murdering the injured when the good guy with the AR-15 civilian rifle drew him outside the church...saving the lives of the injured...26 of them........

Total BS. He was already outside when your hero with a gun dropped by. He would have been shooting blindly at the church otherwise.

Again...not what the survivor stated...........you know, the one actually in the church....

She's dead wrong but what can I say. Do you think your good guy fired his gun at the church without any idea what he was shooting at?

 

[Jamesonrules]

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

And yet....

Texas shooter....murdered 26 with a rifle.

26 were saved with the same rifle.

Virginia Tech...murdered 32 with 2 pistols.

Luby's Cafe....murdered 23 with 2 pistols....

Nice, France, murdered 89 with a rental truck, injured 450....

They weren't saved but they were killed.

 

[Auld Phart]

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Nobody needs a corvette, nobody needs a truck with monster wheels, nobody needs a BMW.

They are choices.

an AR-15 is also a choice.

and maybe a dozen out of over a million are used in mass murders.

pretty dumb reason to ban them for everyone

 

[Jamesonrules]

2aguy must have figured out that you wouldn't be shooting into a church blindly and the killer had already headed outside when the "good guy" hiding behind a truck fired on him. The slaughter in the church was already over. The gun is to blame.

 

[Jamesonrules]

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Nobody needs a corvette, nobody needs a truck with monster wheels, nobody needs a BMW.

They are choices.

an AR-15 is also a choice.

and maybe a dozen out of over a million are used in mass murders.

pretty dumb reason to ban them for everyone

Nukes and biological weapons are not a choice. There is no reason that weapons of war should be one either. Kiddy porn, not a choice. Pipe bombs, not a choice. Mustard gas, not a choice. Deal with it, Snowflake.

 

[Auld Phart]

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Nobody needs a corvette, nobody needs a truck with monster wheels, nobody needs a BMW.

They are choices.

an AR-15 is also a choice.

and maybe a dozen out of over a million are used in mass murders.

pretty dumb reason to ban them for everyone

Nukes and biological weapons are not a choice. There is no reason that weapons of war should be one either. Kiddy porn, not a choice. Pipe bombs, not a choice. Mustard gas, not a choice. Deal with it, Snowflake.

AR-15 is not a weapon of war...

"Deal with it, Snowflake"

 

[2aguy]

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Wrong, again. 90% of murderers are individuals with long histories of crime and violence and usually at least one felony, many with more than one.....which means they can't buy, own or carry a gun.....

The guy who stopped the Texas church shooter needed his AR-15 civilian rifle. The ranchers on the border need their AR-15 civilian rifles considering the drug cartels have fully automatic rifles provided by the Mexican police and military.....and the store owners in Ferguson, Baltimore and the other places where democrats burned and looted stores, needed their rifles....and because they had those rifles, their stores weren't looted and burned.....

 

[2aguy]

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Nobody needs a corvette, nobody needs a truck with monster wheels, nobody needs a BMW.

They are choices.

an AR-15 is also a choice.

and maybe a dozen out of over a million are used in mass murders.

pretty dumb reason to ban them for everyone

Nukes and biological weapons are not a choice. There is no reason that weapons of war should be one either. Kiddy porn, not a choice. Pipe bombs, not a choice. Mustard gas, not a choice. Deal with it, Snowflake.

What weapon of war...the AR-15 civilian rifle has never been on any battlefield...it is a civilian rifle that is also used by the police.

Odd that you bring up kiddy porn.......do you need help?

 

[2aguy]

2aguy must have figured out that you wouldn't be shooting into a church blindly and the killer had already headed outside when the "good guy" hiding behind a truck fired on him. The slaughter in the church was already over. The gun is to blame.

Wow.....the actual testimony by the actual survivor who was about to be murdered by the shooter, and said he left because he saw the guy in front of the church with the gun......and you make up a story and talk out of your ass.......wow.....

 

[Jamesonrules]

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Wrong, again. 90% of murderers are individuals with long histories of crime and violence and usually at least one felony, many with more than one.....which means they can't buy, own or carry a gun.....

The guy who stopped the Texas church shooter needed his AR-15 civilian rifle. The ranchers on the border need their AR-15 civilian rifles considering the drug cartels have fully automatic rifles provided by the Mexican police and military.....and the store owners in Ferguson, Baltimore and the other places where democrats burned and looted stores, needed their rifles....and because they had those rifles, their stores weren't looted and burned.....

You love guns and you are dead wrong to do so but that's what will probably kill you so so be it. No normal person needs what just slaughtered an entire church.

 

[Jamesonrules]

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Nobody needs a corvette, nobody needs a truck with monster wheels, nobody needs a BMW.

They are choices.

an AR-15 is also a choice.

and maybe a dozen out of over a million are used in mass murders.

pretty dumb reason to ban them for everyone

Nukes and biological weapons are not a choice. There is no reason that weapons of war should be one either. Kiddy porn, not a choice. Pipe bombs, not a choice. Mustard gas, not a choice. Deal with it, Snowflake.

What weapon of war...the AR-15 civilian rifle has never been on any battlefield...it is a civilian rifle that is also used by the police.

Odd that you bring up kiddy porn.......do you need help?

Kiddy porn isn't a choice. It's bad for society and so are most guns.

 

[OnePercenter]

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last. You are not going to lose your ability to protect yourself but you will lose guns like these weapons of war.

The AR-15 is not and never has been a "weapon of War." it is a civilian rifle....do you want to see an actual weapon of war....?

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Those weapons of war you can be allowed. To kill 27 with those you'd need a whole lot of time and luck.

Nope.....you just need a gun free zone and lots of victims......

and as to slaughtering in a short period of time....

Nice, France, a rental Truck.....89 people murdered.....seems to me that is a lot more than 26.....

Bombs are better than guns. We killed tens of thousands with just one not long ago. Those also should be banned.

A Catholic did the same thing in OKC.

 

[Jamesonrules]

2aguy must have figured out that you wouldn't be shooting into a church blindly and the killer had already headed outside when the "good guy" hiding behind a truck fired on him. The slaughter in the church was already over. The gun is to blame.

Wow.....the actual testimony by the actual survivor who was about to be murdered by the shooter, and said he left because he saw the guy in front of the church with the gun......and you make up a story and talk out of your ass.......wow.....

"He saw me and I saw him. I was standing behind the pickup truck for cover," Willeford told KHBS. "It was surreal to me that it could be happening. I could not believe it."

The guy with a gun is not what made him leave. Why would you walk right into another guy with a gun if you knew he was there? You wouldn't. Your good guy saw him only after he was headed on his way.

 

[2aguy]

I have a similar rifle.

had it for a couple of years now.

I've owned firearms for over 50 years

not once, to my knowledge, have any escaped the safe, left the house, and went on a rampage.

Making you a good guy with a gun like they all are until right before they murder one or many. And you don't need an AR-15. No normal person ever would.

Nobody needs a corvette, nobody needs a truck with monster wheels, nobody needs a BMW.

They are choices.

an AR-15 is also a choice.

and maybe a dozen out of over a million are used in mass murders.

pretty dumb reason to ban them for everyone

Nukes and biological weapons are not a choice. There is no reason that weapons of war should be one either. Kiddy porn, not a choice. Pipe bombs, not a choice. Mustard gas, not a choice. Deal with it, Snowflake.

What weapon of war...the AR-15 civilian rifle has never been on any battlefield...it is a civilian rifle that is also used by the police.

Odd that you bring up kiddy porn.......do you need help?

Kiddy porn isn't a choice. It's bad for society and so are most guns.

Get help.....