The good guy, the civilian...used an AR-15 to stop the killer since the police weren't there....

[JoeB131]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

 

[Auld Phart]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

Yes...
after every person in the country, and more than a few in other countries, read about him, and the atrocity he performed, in the paper, on the internet, and heard abut it on the radio and tv.

 

[2aguy]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

 

[JoeB131]

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

We never said NICS would keep us safe. We were pretty clear on our position.

If you aren't a cop or a soldier, you shouldn't have a fucking gun.

But if the Press can find out in one day this guy is a nut, so can the gun industry.

And if you started holding them legally responsible for the carnage, they will actually bother to check beyond typing someone's name into a computer.

 

[ABikerSailor]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

 

[ph3iron]

The good guy with a gun...was not in the military and he wasn't a cop...he was a plumber with an AR-15 rifle...and he ruined the happy dance of the gun grabbers as they skipped through the still warm blood of the victims...

That darned good guy just had to have the AR-15 civilian rifle......which he used to stop the killer, since the police didn't show up till the guy left the scene.......

Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter

Langendorff said he didn't get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.


The neighbor, who Langendorff didn't know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.

"The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

 

[2aguy]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

 

[Jamesonrules]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last. You are not going to lose your ability to protect yourself but you will lose guns like these weapons of war.

 

[2aguy]

The good guy with a gun...was not in the military and he wasn't a cop...he was a plumber with an AR-15 rifle...and he ruined the happy dance of the gun grabbers as they skipped through the still warm blood of the victims...

That darned good guy just had to have the AR-15 civilian rifle......which he used to stop the killer, since the police didn't show up till the guy left the scene.......

Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter

Langendorff said he didn't get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.


The neighbor, who Langendorff didn't know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.

"The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

 

[2aguy]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

 

[Jamesonrules]

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

 

[Jamesonrules]

The good guy with a gun...was not in the military and he wasn't a cop...he was a plumber with an AR-15 rifle...and he ruined the happy dance of the gun grabbers as they skipped through the still warm blood of the victims...

That darned good guy just had to have the AR-15 civilian rifle......which he used to stop the killer, since the police didn't show up till the guy left the scene.......

Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter

Langendorff said he didn't get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.


The neighbor, who Langendorff didn't know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.

"The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

 

[2aguy]

No...moron......the Federal Background check system is supposed to keep them from buying guns...the Federal Government fucked up, moron....not the gun store, they did their fucking job....

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

But....if they only had that extra special, super duper level of bureaucracy to supervise the clerk who was supposed to press the "send" button....then this would have all worked out...

What we need is a new government agency that supervises all of the clerks in the federal government and makes sure they submit all of their paperwork on time.........

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last. You are not going to lose your ability to protect yourself but you will lose guns like these weapons of war.

The AR-15 is not and never has been a "weapon of War." it is a civilian rifle....do you want to see an actual weapon of war....?

https://www.remington.com/sites/def...913Model-7-Black-SynNoScope.png?itok=X-SJsT0g

 

[2aguy]

The good guy with a gun...was not in the military and he wasn't a cop...he was a plumber with an AR-15 rifle...and he ruined the happy dance of the gun grabbers as they skipped through the still warm blood of the victims...

That darned good guy just had to have the AR-15 civilian rifle......which he used to stop the killer, since the police didn't show up till the guy left the scene.......

Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter

Langendorff said he didn't get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.


The neighbor, who Langendorff didn't know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.

"The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

Wow...your reading comprehension sucks....this is an actual survivor....you know...someone who was actually there...

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

 

[Jamesonrules]

Somehow, the gun industry would have still found a way to get a gun to this guy... because they always do.

So he would have went to a second hand buyer or a gun show or some other loophole where they don't check.

No, they need to do FRESH investigations whenever someone wants to get a gun.

The thing was- one more time for you gun nuts, that within 24 hours of the shooting we found out.

1) He was given a bad conduct discharge for beating his wife and kid
2) He escaped from an insane asylum
3) He had been in a dispute with his in-laws.
4) He was under suspision for sneaking a weapon onto his base.

You know, because they actually CHECKED HIS BACKGROUND.

Wow. Background checks. What a crazy idea!!!!

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last. You are not going to lose your ability to protect yourself but you will lose guns like these weapons of war.

The AR-15 is not and never has been a "weapon of War." it is a civilian rifle....do you want to see an actual weapon of war....?

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Those weapons of war you can be allowed. To kill 27 with those you'd need a whole lot of time and luck.

 

[Jamesonrules]

The good guy with a gun...was not in the military and he wasn't a cop...he was a plumber with an AR-15 rifle...and he ruined the happy dance of the gun grabbers as they skipped through the still warm blood of the victims...

That darned good guy just had to have the AR-15 civilian rifle......which he used to stop the killer, since the police didn't show up till the guy left the scene.......

Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter

Langendorff said he didn't get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.


The neighbor, who Langendorff didn't know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.

"The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

Wow...your reading comprehension sucks....this is an actual survivor....you know...someone who was actually there...

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

He left when he was ready to. The gun saved no one but it did slaughter a whole church.

Since they were Trump voters and future voters for such a dumbfuck it's really no loss in the end. You reap what you sow.

 

[Auld Phart]

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

 

[2aguy]

No...moron...since you are really, really, fucking slow......the Air Force clerk did not put his paperwork into the FBI NICS system...so he passed his background check....the background check system you assholes say will keep us safe.....ooops......

The Press simply went to the Air Force and asked them....the gun store went to the NICS system...the system you fucking crybabies wanted to stop guys like him from getting a gun....they went to that system and it failed them.....moron.

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last. You are not going to lose your ability to protect yourself but you will lose guns like these weapons of war.

The AR-15 is not and never has been a "weapon of War." it is a civilian rifle....do you want to see an actual weapon of war....?

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Those weapons of war you can be allowed. To kill 27 with those you'd need a whole lot of time and luck.

Nope.....you just need a gun free zone and lots of victims......

and as to slaughtering in a short period of time....

Nice, France, a rental Truck.....89 people murdered.....seems to me that is a lot more than 26.....

 

[2aguy]

The good guy with a gun...was not in the military and he wasn't a cop...he was a plumber with an AR-15 rifle...and he ruined the happy dance of the gun grabbers as they skipped through the still warm blood of the victims...

That darned good guy just had to have the AR-15 civilian rifle......which he used to stop the killer, since the police didn't show up till the guy left the scene.......

Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter

Langendorff said he didn't get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.


The neighbor, who Langendorff didn't know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.

"The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.

More live in the past Star Wars garbage.
They were outside and He had left the church genius as you say "the shooter took off" when they started chasing him
How is your mind so twisted?

Did all of you anti gun morons fail to actually read about what actually happened...and then simply started talking out of your collective asses......

The plumber with the AR-15 civilian rifle saved the lives of all the wounded in that church, he saved the lives of 26 people.....


'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

The gunman was leaving. He saved no one. He's already killed as many as he expected to.

Wow...your reading comprehension sucks....this is an actual survivor....you know...someone who was actually there...

'Be quiet! It's him!' Survivors say shooter walked pew by pew looking for people to shoot - CNN

As the massacre continued, Ramirez made eye contact with Annabelle Pomeroy -- the 14-year-old daughter of the church's pastor. She was crying for help, Ramirez told KSAT.
Realizing Annabelle might get shot, Ramirez motioned with his finger for her to stay quiet. It didn't work. Annabelle was killed.

The gunman eventually made his way to the back pew, where Brown's mother was hiding, "and started shooting the lady next to her multiple times," Brown said.

Brown's mother was certain she would be next, "and her life was about to end."

"Then somebody with a gun showed up at the front of the church (and) caught the shooter's attention," Brown said. "And he left, and that was the end of the ordeal."

He left when he was ready to. The gun saved no one but it did slaughter a whole church.

Wow...you really can't fucking read, can you? the actual survivor stated he was calmly walking around murdering the injured when the good guy with the AR-15 civilian rifle drew him outside the church...saving the lives of the injured...26 of them........

 

[Jamesonrules]

You're pretty fucking slow yourself dude. Yeah, the AF failed to enter him into the database, but his discharge wasn't the only disqualifying factor. He also had several arrests for domestic abuse. When you are booked into jail, part of the booking process is to enter you into the database along with why you were arrested.

You can't blame all of this on the AF. Part of the blame, yes, but it also has to be shared by the police who arrested him. Why didn't the police put him in the database for domestic abuse?

Yep......the local police screwed up too.....and because both the Federal and local government fucked up...it fell to a civilian with an AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 people in that church...since the local police couldn't get there till after the killer left the scene of the attack...

Thanks for pointing that out....

The church was destroyed and will be torn down. The only solution is no guns anything like what he had. 15 x 30 bullets to slaughter 27 in just a few minutes. Insanity. The 2nd Amendment must meet reality at long last.

Tell that to the 12 million innocent people sent to German gas chambers....all unarmed and helpless....tell that to the Mexican citizens murdered, and cooked, by the Mexican drug cartels.......

The guy at the church used that AR-15 civilian rifle to save 26 lives........that just burns your ass, doesn't it...?

He didn't save any lives. The guy was leaving, after using a weapon of war to slaughter innocents. The gun is to blame. Take that away and nothing like this is even possible.

The gun is to blame.

Gun walked in and started pulling it's own trigger?

Guy walked in with a weapon capable of slaughtering a whole church, a weapon created only for war. Unless you are at war no one needs such a thing. The gun is to blame.