2aguy
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no clear correlation whatsoever between gun ownership rate and gun homicide rate.Australia gun buyback cut gun deaths nearly in half.No, drugs tend to make people relaxed, happy, and complacent.
It is the War on Drugs that causes murders.
Look at the statistics.
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The last time we had a peak like we do now, what Prohibition of Alcohol.
And it caused a massive murder spike for the same reason.
Once you make something illegal that people do not believe should be illegal, its use increases.
There are higher profits, more sellers, etc., but they also can not use banks or call police.
So there are more turf wars, thefts, murders, etc.
The estimates are that 90% of the US murders are due to the War on Drugs.
Then by the same logic, prohibitions on firearms would also cause a spike in the rate of shootings, just as the prohibition on alcohol and drugs caused a spike in bootlegging, gang activity, and drug use and sales.
True?
Yes, most likely.
Any government imposed, arbitrary prohibition is always guaranteed to fail.
It just increases the Black Market, while destroying the credibility of the current government.
Gun control is just evil or incredibly stupid.
It can not possibly ever do any good at all.
UK's approach resulted in no more than 60 gun deaths per year in a population of 56 million.
Japan has only 10 gun deaths per year across 127 million people.
Norway has a 3rd of the guns per person as the US, but just 1/10th of the gun deaths.
You are wrong....research shows that Australia's gun murder rate was going down before they banned guns...and illegal guns are now flooding the country...
The U.K. had that lower gun murder rate before they banned guns....and it didn't change after they banned guns.....so gun control wasn't the issue....the fact that the criminal culture in Britain didn't engage in murder was the issue.....
Japan stopped gun crime by imposing a life sentence on any criminal act using a gun....with a 95% conviction rate, and 10 years for mere possession of an illegal gun....
In the U.S....democrat judges are releasing repeat gun offenders on bond, and out of prison in less than 3 years...that is our problem...not John and Jane citizen owning and carrying a gun for self defense.....
The anti-gun theory and argument.....
More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.
Actual Result:
In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%
The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....
In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.
So your argument wasn't that crime goes up, crime goes down....your theory, your argument is More Guns (regardless of any other factors) = More Gun Crime
Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...
The exact opposite of your theory happened....in science that means your theory is wrong.
Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
States with stricter gun control regulations have fewer mass shootings
Wrong....
no clear correlation whatsoever between gun ownership rate and gun homicide rate.Australia gun buyback cut gun deaths nearly in half.No, drugs tend to make people relaxed, happy, and complacent.
It is the War on Drugs that causes murders.
Look at the statistics.
![]()
The last time we had a peak like we do now, what Prohibition of Alcohol.
And it caused a massive murder spike for the same reason.
Once you make something illegal that people do not believe should be illegal, its use increases.
There are higher profits, more sellers, etc., but they also can not use banks or call police.
So there are more turf wars, thefts, murders, etc.
The estimates are that 90% of the US murders are due to the War on Drugs.
Then by the same logic, prohibitions on firearms would also cause a spike in the rate of shootings, just as the prohibition on alcohol and drugs caused a spike in bootlegging, gang activity, and drug use and sales.
True?
Yes, most likely.
Any government imposed, arbitrary prohibition is always guaranteed to fail.
It just increases the Black Market, while destroying the credibility of the current government.
Gun control is just evil or incredibly stupid.
It can not possibly ever do any good at all.
UK's approach resulted in no more than 60 gun deaths per year in a population of 56 million.
Japan has only 10 gun deaths per year across 127 million people.
Norway has a 3rd of the guns per person as the US, but just 1/10th of the gun deaths.
You are wrong....research shows that Australia's gun murder rate was going down before they banned guns...and illegal guns are now flooding the country...
The U.K. had that lower gun murder rate before they banned guns....and it didn't change after they banned guns.....so gun control wasn't the issue....the fact that the criminal culture in Britain didn't engage in murder was the issue.....
Japan stopped gun crime by imposing a life sentence on any criminal act using a gun....with a 95% conviction rate, and 10 years for mere possession of an illegal gun....
In the U.S....democrat judges are releasing repeat gun offenders on bond, and out of prison in less than 3 years...that is our problem...not John and Jane citizen owning and carrying a gun for self defense.....
The anti-gun theory and argument.....
More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.
Actual Result:
In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%
The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....
In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.
So your argument wasn't that crime goes up, crime goes down....your theory, your argument is More Guns (regardless of any other factors) = More Gun Crime
Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...
The exact opposite of your theory happened....in science that means your theory is wrong.
Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
States with stricter gun control regulations have fewer mass shootings
Yeah.....they saw what they wanted to see...
“It’s hard to be 100 percent certain that what we found isn't possibly because states that experience more mass shootings in turn change their gun laws, or some other factors that we just couldn’t measure," Paul Reeping told Newsweek.