The Gun Owner Database- Another Way To Skin The Cat

[bendog]

Its not. You want something from someone and you offer nothing in return.

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.

You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo. The issue at hand is reducing access for people who should not have guns, not involving 50 state governments to get on the same page so that nothing happens.

If you disagree with 80-90% of the population then I would suggest that compromise is not something you're even remotely after. If that's so then I don't feel the need to deal with extremists such as yourself.

There are lots of states where 2nd amend absolutists can be happy.

The question really is whether the gop Sup Ct will begin dismantling NYC gun laws.

 

[bendog]

Its not. You want something from someone and you offer nothing in return.

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.
You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.

I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

You can't demand CA or Colo give up anything, and they can't demand GunNutt Haven States do anything.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They aren't stored in any searchable format, they aren't even on a computer as that is against the law.
The ATF's Nonsenical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained
Changes should be made to that so that it's actually useful.

Useful in whatever class of gun you seek to ban and confiscate.
And nothing else.

 

[HappyJoy]

Its not. You want something from someone and you offer nothing in return.

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.
You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.

Compromise with extremists? No, I don't.

I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

This is why I don't compromise with extremists.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

If guns were registered when sold then gun safety would improve. For example there could be checks that they were stored correctly and away from kids. Thats a good thing in my opinion.

Guns ARE registered when sold by FFL dealers and when they are manufactured. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. When they are resold, they are not registered for that sale. When you buy a new gun at the store, that gun IS registered as is the sale and so are you.

They aren't stored in any searchable format, they aren't even on a computer as that is against the law.

The ATF's Nonsenical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

Changes should be made to that so that it's actually useful.

It's done that way to prevent the Government to use it in an easy to use manner. It's still useable but it just takes longer and more difficult. We don't want to make it easy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Its not. You want something from someone and you offer nothing in return.

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.
You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.
I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

You can't demand CA or Colo give up anything,

I certainly can.

 

[HappyJoy]

Its not. You want something from someone and you offer nothing in return.

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.

You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo. The issue at hand is reducing access for people who should not have guns, not involving 50 state governments to get on the same page so that nothing happens.

If you disagree with 80-90% of the population then I would suggest that compromise is not something you're even remotely after. If that's so then I don't feel the need to deal with extremists such as yourself.

There are lots of states where 2nd amend absolutists can be happy.

The question really is whether the gop Sup Ct will begin dismantling NYC gun laws.

I don't think there are that many absolutists, they're just vocal one issue voters.

 

[HappyJoy]

If guns were registered when sold then gun safety would improve. For example there could be checks that they were stored correctly and away from kids. Thats a good thing in my opinion.

Guns ARE registered when sold by FFL dealers and when they are manufactured. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. When they are resold, they are not registered for that sale. When you buy a new gun at the store, that gun IS registered as is the sale and so are you.

They aren't stored in any searchable format, they aren't even on a computer as that is against the law.

The ATF's Nonsenical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

Changes should be made to that so that it's actually useful.

It's done that way to prevent the Government to use it in an easy to use manner. It's still useable but it just takes longer and more difficult. We don't want to make it easy.

Yes, I know why it's done, I'm saying that should change. We're way past righteous armed revolution and clearly into wingnuts shooting up parking lots and eating it by the local police.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Its not. You want something from someone and you offer nothing in return.

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.

You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo. The issue at hand is reducing access for people who should not have guns, not involving 50 state governments to get on the same page so that nothing happens.

If you disagree with 80-90% of the population then I would suggest that compromise is not something you're even remotely after. If that's so then I don't feel the need to deal with extremists such as yourself.

There are lots of states where 2nd amend absolutists can be happy.

The question really is whether the gop Sup Ct will begin dismantling NYC gun laws.

As Judge Young said in Boston, if you don't like the laws where you are, move. If you are unhappy with the NYC gun laws, move to New Hampshire where they have looser gun laws. It's right up the road.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

If guns were registered when sold then gun safety would improve. For example there could be checks that they were stored correctly and away from kids. Thats a good thing in my opinion.

Guns ARE registered when sold by FFL dealers and when they are manufactured. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. When they are resold, they are not registered for that sale. When you buy a new gun at the store, that gun IS registered as is the sale and so are you.

They aren't stored in any searchable format, they aren't even on a computer as that is against the law.

The ATF's Nonsenical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

Changes should be made to that so that it's actually useful.

It's done that way to prevent the Government to use it in an easy to use manner. It's still useable but it just takes longer and more difficult. We don't want to make it easy.

Yes, I know why it's done, I'm saying that should change. We're way past righteous armed revolution and clearly into wingnuts shooting up parking lots and eating it by the local police.

Are we? Don't bet your life on it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

This is why I don't compromise with extremists.

I took the exact same view on compromise as you did, and -I'm- the extremist

People like you are why gun owners refuse to give an inch.

 

[HappyJoy]

If guns were registered when sold then gun safety would improve. For example there could be checks that they were stored correctly and away from kids. Thats a good thing in my opinion.

Guns ARE registered when sold by FFL dealers and when they are manufactured. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. When they are resold, they are not registered for that sale. When you buy a new gun at the store, that gun IS registered as is the sale and so are you.

They aren't stored in any searchable format, they aren't even on a computer as that is against the law.

The ATF's Nonsenical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

Changes should be made to that so that it's actually useful.

It's done that way to prevent the Government to use it in an easy to use manner. It's still useable but it just takes longer and more difficult. We don't want to make it easy.

Yes, I know why it's done, I'm saying that should change. We're way past righteous armed revolution and clearly into wingnuts shooting up parking lots and eating it by the local police.

Are we? Don't bet your life on it.

Yes, I think we are. I do not foresee a violent revolution by 30-40% of the population that is going to overtake the U.S. government.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Feds order Apple and Google to turn over names in data base of gunscope app users...
Exclusive: Feds Demand Apple And Google Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App

Funny we used no apps in Korea for our Snipers, and I don't think they used them in Nam either.

You lost both of those wars. Got your arses kicked.

 

[bendog]

For starters, this was my entire post:

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.
You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.
I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

You can't demand CA or Colo give up anything,

I certainly can.

And you can live in Never Never LAND. And never travel outside Gun Nut State A with a firearm.

 

[HappyJoy]

I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

This is why I don't compromise with extremists.

I took the exact same view on compromise as you did, and -I'm- the extremist

People like you are why gun owners refuse to give an inch.

You're an extremist because 80-90% of the population agrees with me. Who did you bring to the party, wingnut?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.
You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.
I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

You can't demand CA or Colo give up anything,

I certainly can.

And you can live in Never Never LAND. And never travel outside Gun Nut State A with a firearm.

Doesn't change fact I can demand than CO and CA and wherever else change their laws.

 

[bendog]

Guns ARE registered when sold by FFL dealers and when they are manufactured. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. When they are resold, they are not registered for that sale. When you buy a new gun at the store, that gun IS registered as is the sale and so are you.

They aren't stored in any searchable format, they aren't even on a computer as that is against the law.

The ATF's Nonsenical Non-Searchable Gun Databases, Explained

Changes should be made to that so that it's actually useful.

It's done that way to prevent the Government to use it in an easy to use manner. It's still useable but it just takes longer and more difficult. We don't want to make it easy.

Yes, I know why it's done, I'm saying that should change. We're way past righteous armed revolution and clearly into wingnuts shooting up parking lots and eating it by the local police.

Are we? Don't bet your life on it.

Yes, I think we are. I do not foresee a violent revolution by 30-40% of the population that is going to overtake the U.S. government.

Oh, I can a terror campaign against the gummit by thousands of well funded and armed criminals.

 

[HappyJoy]

Noting in your post changes the fact you expect to take from people, while giving nothing in return.
That's not an offer of compromise, that's a demand of acquiescence.
You want universal background checks, in return I want 50+ state CCW reciprocity.

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.
I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

You can't demand CA or Colo give up anything,

I certainly can.

And you can live in Never Never LAND. And never travel outside Gun Nut State A with a firearm.

Sounds like a compromise to me.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

This is why I don't compromise with extremists.

I took the exact same view on compromise as you did, and -I'm- the extremist

People like you are why gun owners refuse to give an inch.

You're an extremist because 80-90% of the population agrees with me.

Oh look - an argumentum ad populum fallacy

Go ahead. Keep demanding acquiescence rather than offering compromise. See where it gets you.

 

[bendog]

Compromise is not a quid pro quo.

Thank you for confirming you do not offer compromise, you demand acquiescence.
I want 50 state reciprocity, rather than 50+ state; you get nothing.
There - I compromised.

You can't demand CA or Colo give up anything,

I certainly can.

And you can live in Never Never LAND. And never travel outside Gun Nut State A with a firearm.

Doesn't change fact I can demand than CO and CA and wherever else change their laws.

And you can suck air, but neither have any effect beyond your personal being.