The IRS "Scandal" Isn't a Scandal, But It Will Get Annoying

[sfcalifornia]

I have a prediction too, this thing you are calling a non scandal will completely destroy the IRS as we know it.

Highly doubtful.

 

[Gadawg73]

Don't Republicans live in a constant state of blind outrage?

I am Libertarian.
Live in the real world.
IRS is evil and now they are in charge of the health care in this country.

A Libertarian is just an embarrassed Republican.

Isn't every American embarrassed now?

 

[Gadawg73]

Carney reminds me of Sgt. Schultz.
"I know nothing".

 

[editec]

Surely this event would not be the first time that some low level bureaucrat used his office to harass those who he did not approve of.

If this was the case, then by all means hang the guilty parties.

 

[jwoodie]

The IRS "Scandal" Isn't a Scandal, But It Will Get Annoying

Why don't you give us YOUR definition of a "scandal" instead of posting what someone else has written? Or do you rely on others to do your thinking for you?

 

[boedicca]

The far left is saying there is no scandal and that abusing their power by targeting opposing groups is perfectly fine.

Even Obama knows it's bad, which is why is he trying to distance himself from this mess. And it's why the IRS apologized. In the leftie world, an apology is all it takes for Dems to be totally exonerated and forgiven.

The moral hazard of using the IRS for political purposes is made worse by our Byzantine, crony favoring, social engineering tax code. A flat tax would minimize this hazard.

 

[martybegan]

The president should have fully supported the IRS investigating these right wing terror cells. They should get raided by the feds as well.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

No big deal. When Republican win back the WH we're gonna go after all the lib groups the same way maybe appoint the Koch Brothers as IRS commissioners

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For the love of god don't. If republicans ever get back into power they should concentrate on getting things done that will actually help the country. Not just going on witch hunts to help the upcoming election.

 

[saveliberty]

No it isn't a scandal, its abuse of power pure and simple.

 

[peach174]

The IRS are the folks that will control the health care in this country.
And you folks believe that is a good thing?

I don't !
Can you see the questions they will ask about your future operations that you may have to undergo and being denied because you didn't know them?
This is the type of questions IRS asked of the 502 (c) applications.
How in the hell are Tea Party board members suppose to know if their young children will run for any public office in the future?
They asked for all kinds of future activity.
Another request was a list of past and future donors.
How can anyone answer this about future donors?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I have a prediction too, this thing you are calling a non scandal will completely destroy the IRS as we know it.

Highly doubtful.

We now have absolute evidence that the IRS is incompetent and that they arbitrarily enforce laws, which makes them de facto a tyrannical organization, and you think that no one is going to demand a complete reformation of the agency? Do you know what happened to the FBI when Hoover finally kicked the bucket?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Surely this event would not be the first time that some low level bureaucrat used his office to harass those who he did not approve of.

If this was the case, then by all means hang the guilty parties.

Except for the fact that the low level bureaucrats included the top lawyer of the entire IRS you have a really good point.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Don't Republicans live in a constant state of blind outrage?

I am Libertarian.
Live in the real world.
IRS is evil and now they are in charge of the health care in this country.

A Libertarian is just an embarrassed Republican.

You are apparently proud of your ignorance because you love to show it off.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The IRS "Scandal" Isn't a Scandal, But It Will Get Annoying


Look, we know how this went down: Post-Citizens United, the Internal Revenue Service was flooded with applications for tax-exempt status for whatever organization a couple of fucksacks with a tricorner hat wanted to start. "Social welfare" groups, they were called, and they could not be involved with specific political candidates or advocacy (although, you know, c'mon). So the IRS told its low-level drones who had to look at all the fucksack applications to flag ones that looked hinky. So the low-level drones, who are overworked to begin with because Congress won't give the IRS the funding it needs to do its fucking job, used some search terms.

It's 2010 and who are the fucksacks who are everywhere? The "Tea Party" groups. So, sure, fine, let's fuckin' search that. Low-level drone 1 tells low-level drone 2 (and for god's sake, they live in the dull, dull, boring, dull city of Cincinnati, so give 'em a little break), "Hey, just use 'Patriot' as a search term and you'll get your job done faster because if there's one thing we know, it's that a whole bunch of these applications are from crazed fucksacks applying for tax-exempt status because they hate them that black guy in office." Low-level drone 2 might have said, "Oh, shit, that'll get us in trouble." But low-level drone 1 had a convincing argument by saying, "You wanna get to the bar sooner?" By the way, chances are that LLD 1 and LLD 2 have been LLDs forever, under at least one GOP president.

Does this narrative need to be completed? Sure, fine: A mid-level IRS drone discovers what's happening and says, "Whoa, whoa, you can't just go after the costumed fucksacks. You gotta look at everyone." At which point at least one LLD contemplated suicide, surely. So MLD went to the higher-ups, like Lois Lerner, director of exempt organizations, who said, "Aw, fuck, don't you know that the fucksacks are gonna cause a ruckus over this shit? Change it up." And then the IRS started to look at any group that criticized "how the country was run." Then, because that stunk of Tea Party bullshit (even though it encompassed many groups), the standard was then changed to "political action type organizations involved in limiting/expanding Government, educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, social economic reform movement." And then, a year ago, that was changed to "organizations with indicators of significant amounts of political campaign intervention."

No group was denied anything because of the extra scrutiny. And as soon as someone higher than a low-level drone found out about what the LLDs were doing, it was addressed and changed. To say that Barack Obama had something to do with that is to say that Rupert Murdoch should be arrested every time Sean Hannity lies on the air.

If you want to call the IRS thing a scandal, well, shit, in this dumbed-down post-Clinton blow job era, the definition of "scandal" is meaningless, so why the fuck not? At least it looks like someone did something knowingly wrong, unlike Benghazi, which is a lonely penis looking for a hole to penetrate.

Hell, the Washington Post went all nutzoid on it, proving its street-cred to keep up the subscription rate among Republican readers: "One line of questioning should focus on how the IRS’s procedures failed to catch this 'shortcut' before its employees began using it. Another should center on how this misguided practice came to light, and on what the IRS planned and plans to do about it." Umm, the IRS caught it shortly after it was used. And did something about it. Isn't that the end of the story?

But, no, really, there should be an investigation. Go the fuck ahead, GOP (and, yeah, Democrats who wanna show that they can be all mightily outraged at a black man, too). Call witnesses. Have mighty inquiries where you can preen for the base. It's not like you're gonna do anything better with your time. At this point, you've cried, "Wolf!" so many times that even the wolves are bored.

Awesome post. I agree.

I also don't see the surprise in the fact that the IRS is giving extra scrutiny to groups who are part of a political movement that espouses the ideology that taxation is theft and people don't really owe the government any taxes.

 

[asterism]

The IRS "Scandal" Isn't a Scandal, But It Will Get Annoying


Look, we know how this went down: Post-Citizens United, the Internal Revenue Service was flooded with applications for tax-exempt status for whatever organization a couple of fucksacks with a tricorner hat wanted to start. "Social welfare" groups, they were called, and they could not be involved with specific political candidates or advocacy (although, you know, c'mon). So the IRS told its low-level drones who had to look at all the fucksack applications to flag ones that looked hinky. So the low-level drones, who are overworked to begin with because Congress won't give the IRS the funding it needs to do its fucking job, used some search terms.

It's 2010 and who are the fucksacks who are everywhere? The "Tea Party" groups. So, sure, fine, let's fuckin' search that. Low-level drone 1 tells low-level drone 2 (and for god's sake, they live in the dull, dull, boring, dull city of Cincinnati, so give 'em a little break), "Hey, just use 'Patriot' as a search term and you'll get your job done faster because if there's one thing we know, it's that a whole bunch of these applications are from crazed fucksacks applying for tax-exempt status because they hate them that black guy in office." Low-level drone 2 might have said, "Oh, shit, that'll get us in trouble." But low-level drone 1 had a convincing argument by saying, "You wanna get to the bar sooner?" By the way, chances are that LLD 1 and LLD 2 have been LLDs forever, under at least one GOP president.

Does this narrative need to be completed? Sure, fine: A mid-level IRS drone discovers what's happening and says, "Whoa, whoa, you can't just go after the costumed fucksacks. You gotta look at everyone." At which point at least one LLD contemplated suicide, surely. So MLD went to the higher-ups, like Lois Lerner, director of exempt organizations, who said, "Aw, fuck, don't you know that the fucksacks are gonna cause a ruckus over this shit? Change it up." And then the IRS started to look at any group that criticized "how the country was run." Then, because that stunk of Tea Party bullshit (even though it encompassed many groups), the standard was then changed to "political action type organizations involved in limiting/expanding Government, educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, social economic reform movement." And then, a year ago, that was changed to "organizations with indicators of significant amounts of political campaign intervention."

No group was denied anything because of the extra scrutiny. And as soon as someone higher than a low-level drone found out about what the LLDs were doing, it was addressed and changed. To say that Barack Obama had something to do with that is to say that Rupert Murdoch should be arrested every time Sean Hannity lies on the air.

If you want to call the IRS thing a scandal, well, shit, in this dumbed-down post-Clinton blow job era, the definition of "scandal" is meaningless, so why the fuck not? At least it looks like someone did something knowingly wrong, unlike Benghazi, which is a lonely penis looking for a hole to penetrate.

Hell, the Washington Post went all nutzoid on it, proving its street-cred to keep up the subscription rate among Republican readers: "One line of questioning should focus on how the IRS’s procedures failed to catch this 'shortcut' before its employees began using it. Another should center on how this misguided practice came to light, and on what the IRS planned and plans to do about it." Umm, the IRS caught it shortly after it was used. And did something about it. Isn't that the end of the story?

But, no, really, there should be an investigation. Go the fuck ahead, GOP (and, yeah, Democrats who wanna show that they can be all mightily outraged at a black man, too). Call witnesses. Have mighty inquiries where you can preen for the base. It's not like you're gonna do anything better with your time. At this point, you've cried, "Wolf!" so many times that even the wolves are bored.

Awesome post. I agree.

I also don't see the surprise in the fact that the IRS is giving extra scrutiny to groups who are part of a political movement that espouses the ideology that taxation is theft and people don't really owe the government any taxes.

Many of these additional hoops prevented these groups from participating in an entire election cycle. Their exemptions were eventually approved, after the election. That's a fair policy to you?

 

[longknife]

Another Redneck Liberal attempt to cover up for criminalization of the tax code by a bunch of Obama flaks.

Keep trying. This one won't go away - along with some others.

 

[Synthaholic]

The far left is saying there is no scandal and that abusing their power by targeting opposing groups is perfectly fine.

Even Obama knows it's bad, which is why is he trying to distance himself from this mess. And it's why the IRS apologized. In the leftie world, an apology is all it takes for Dems to be totally exonerated and forgiven.

Another fucking moron who has no business talking politics.

After Watergate, there was a wall put up between the Executive Branch and the IRS. No POTUS can sic the IRS on anyone, and there are only two political appointments to the agency, the Commissioner and the Deputy Commissioner.

The Commissioner was appointed by Bush.

So why would a Bush appointee "target" conservatives?

 

[Synthaholic]

This is so pathetic. The Internal Revenue Service has been found to be harassing organizations critical of the Obama administration, lied about it to Congress and the left thinks this is no big deal.

Again, these are the same tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists that told us Bush was reading all of our emails, spying on Quakers, Prescott Bush Nazis, Michael Moore 911 truther bullshit, Iraq was really about getting oil, ENRON was Bush's fault, Bush stole to election to begin with and really wasn't deserving of any respect.....

These same people claim that the IRS lying to Congress and harassing Constitutionally protected political organizations...isn't a scandal.

Warrant-less wiretaps were started under Bush/Gonzalez and continues under Obama/Holder.

 

[Synthaholic]

I am Libertarian.
Live in the real world.
IRS is evil and now they are in charge of the health care in this country.

A Libertarian is just an embarrassed Republican.

Isn't every American embarrassed now?

About what?

 

[Synthaholic]

The IRS "Scandal" Isn't a Scandal, But It Will Get Annoying


Look, we know how this went down: Post-Citizens United, the Internal Revenue Service was flooded with applications for tax-exempt status for whatever organization a couple of fucksacks with a tricorner hat wanted to start. "Social welfare" groups, they were called, and they could not be involved with specific political candidates or advocacy (although, you know, c'mon). So the IRS told its low-level drones who had to look at all the fucksack applications to flag ones that looked hinky. So the low-level drones, who are overworked to begin with because Congress won't give the IRS the funding it needs to do its fucking job, used some search terms.

It's 2010 and who are the fucksacks who are everywhere? The "Tea Party" groups. So, sure, fine, let's fuckin' search that. Low-level drone 1 tells low-level drone 2 (and for god's sake, they live in the dull, dull, boring, dull city of Cincinnati, so give 'em a little break), "Hey, just use 'Patriot' as a search term and you'll get your job done faster because if there's one thing we know, it's that a whole bunch of these applications are from crazed fucksacks applying for tax-exempt status because they hate them that black guy in office." Low-level drone 2 might have said, "Oh, shit, that'll get us in trouble." But low-level drone 1 had a convincing argument by saying, "You wanna get to the bar sooner?" By the way, chances are that LLD 1 and LLD 2 have been LLDs forever, under at least one GOP president.

Does this narrative need to be completed? Sure, fine: A mid-level IRS drone discovers what's happening and says, "Whoa, whoa, you can't just go after the costumed fucksacks. You gotta look at everyone." At which point at least one LLD contemplated suicide, surely. So MLD went to the higher-ups, like Lois Lerner, director of exempt organizations, who said, "Aw, fuck, don't you know that the fucksacks are gonna cause a ruckus over this shit? Change it up." And then the IRS started to look at any group that criticized "how the country was run." Then, because that stunk of Tea Party bullshit (even though it encompassed many groups), the standard was then changed to "political action type organizations involved in limiting/expanding Government, educating on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, social economic reform movement." And then, a year ago, that was changed to "organizations with indicators of significant amounts of political campaign intervention."

No group was denied anything because of the extra scrutiny. And as soon as someone higher than a low-level drone found out about what the LLDs were doing, it was addressed and changed. To say that Barack Obama had something to do with that is to say that Rupert Murdoch should be arrested every time Sean Hannity lies on the air.

If you want to call the IRS thing a scandal, well, shit, in this dumbed-down post-Clinton blow job era, the definition of "scandal" is meaningless, so why the fuck not? At least it looks like someone did something knowingly wrong, unlike Benghazi, which is a lonely penis looking for a hole to penetrate.

Hell, the Washington Post went all nutzoid on it, proving its street-cred to keep up the subscription rate among Republican readers: "One line of questioning should focus on how the IRS’s procedures failed to catch this 'shortcut' before its employees began using it. Another should center on how this misguided practice came to light, and on what the IRS planned and plans to do about it." Umm, the IRS caught it shortly after it was used. And did something about it. Isn't that the end of the story?

But, no, really, there should be an investigation. Go the fuck ahead, GOP (and, yeah, Democrats who wanna show that they can be all mightily outraged at a black man, too). Call witnesses. Have mighty inquiries where you can preen for the base. It's not like you're gonna do anything better with your time. At this point, you've cried, "Wolf!" so many times that even the wolves are bored.

Awesome post. I agree.

I also don't see the surprise in the fact that the IRS is giving extra scrutiny to groups who are part of a political movement that espouses the ideology that taxation is theft and people don't really owe the government any taxes.

Many of these additional hoops prevented these groups from participating in an entire election cycle. Their exemptions were eventually approved, after the election. That's a fair policy to you?

It didn't prevent anyone from doing a thing.

Being taxed = being prohibited???