The "Job Creators" Fantasy Is A Malignant Myth The Rich Use To Squeeze The Working Class

[georgephillip]

No strawman. You are comparing employment to slavery. A real slave would laugh at you. Or kill you.

Slaves often resort to killing

Tired of winning?

 

[georgephillip]

What is the value of the USD today vs. 1968, Karl?

Why do you ask, Milton?

Value of 1968 US Dollars today - Inflation calculator

"The inflation rate in the United States between 1968 and today has been 668.71%, which translates into a total increase of $668.71.

"This means that 100 dollars in 1968 are equivalent to 768.71 dollars in 2021. In other words, the purchasing power of $100 in 1968 equals $768.71 today.

"The average annual inflation rate has been 3.85%."

How have rich people fared since 1968?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...1percentUSA.png/450px-2008_Top1percentUSA.png

 

[georgephillip]

That's what the courts are for.

An employee is free to sue his employer for breach of contract.

No one else needs to be involved.

You made the claim wages involve a private contract between employer and employee and no one else need be involved. Government needs to be involved in enforcing the private contract unless you believe in corporate arbitration?

 

[Oddball]

Why do you ask, Milton?

Value of 1968 US Dollars today - Inflation calculator

"The inflation rate in the United States between 1968 and today has been 668.71%, which translates into a total increase of $668.71.

"This means that 100 dollars in 1968 are equivalent to 768.71 dollars in 2021. In other words, the purchasing power of $100 in 1968 equals $768.71 today.

"The average annual inflation rate has been 3.85%."

How have rich people fared since 1968?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...1percentUSA.png/450px-2008_Top1percentUSA.png

IOW, the nature of the counterfeit USD has harmed the middle class more so than any of your Marxist class warrior crapola.

 

[georgephillip]

The so called poverty level is an arbitrary statistic invented by the government.

Actually it's rational correction for an economic system that concentrates more and more income and wealth in fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation:

What is the federal poverty level? | healthinsurance.org

"It’s specified as an income amount that is used to determine eligibility for various income-based public programs, such as Medicaid, premium tax credits, and cost-sharing reductions.

"The specific dollar amount varies based on the number of people in the household and whether the household is in Alaska, Hawaii, or the continental U.S."

 

[georgephillip]

IOW, the nature of the counterfeit USD has harmed the middle class more so than any of your Marxist class warrior crapola.

Not as much as the millions of middle class jobs sent to China, Mexico, Brazil, India... for the benefit of the parasitic shareholder class:

The Divine Right of Capital by Marjorie Kelly

"Today, our worldview has a bias – that stockholders are to be paid as much as possible, while employees are to be paid as little as possible. 'Income for one group is declared good, and income for another group is declared bad.'

"Nowhere is this more clear than in our financial statements.

"Here’s the basic formula you’ll find on financial statements:

"Capital Income + Retained earnings = Revenue – (Employee income + Cost of materials)

"Kelly uses some simple algebra to show that this formula could just as easily be re-written as:

"Employee income + Retained earnings = Revenue – (Capital income + Cost of materials)"

 

[georgephillip]

It's delusional.

Not for a majority of productive workers:

Why the U.S. needs a $15 minimum wage: How the Raise the Wage Act would benefit U.S. workers and their families

"The federal minimum hourly wage is just $7.25 and Congress has not increased it since 2009.

"Low wages hurt all workers and are particularly harmful to Black workers and other workers of color, especially women of color, who make up a disproportionate share of workers who are severely underpaid.

"'This is the result of structural racism and sexism, with an economic system rooted in chattel slavery in which workers of color—and especially women of color—have been and continue to be shunted into the most underpaid jobs'"

 

[dblack]

Slaves often resort to killing

Tired of winning?

Tired of your marxist propaganda. Who's funding your team?

 

[georgephillip]

Show us how the purchasing power of an hours labor at minimum in 1968 was 24% greater than it was in 2018.

Minimum wage in the United States - Wikipedia.

 

[Blues Man]

Actually it's rational correction for an economic system that concentrates more and more income and wealth in fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation:

What is the federal poverty level? | healthinsurance.org

"It’s specified as an income amount that is used to determine eligibility for various income-based public programs, such as Medicaid, premium tax credits, and cost-sharing reductions.

"The specific dollar amount varies based on the number of people in the household and whether the household is in Alaska, Hawaii, or the continental U.S."

It's a made up income amount used to qualify people for the dole.

 

[georgephillip]

It's a made up income amount used to qualify people for the dole.

Only for those who believe Trump's a populist.

 

[Blues Man]

Only for those who believe Trump's a populist.

I didn't vote for Trump so you can't be talking about me.

 

[georgephillip]

Let us use logic: If there are millions of jobs open as is said, and you are working, who are you working for?

ANSWER: You are working for YOU, working for the GOVERNMENTS cut, and working for the PEOPLE who do NOT want to work! For if they did want to work, they would fill one of those open positions, now wouldn't they.

I think that depends on whether they have children and whether local schools are open or closed. I also suspect many workers received more income from government stimulus than they were getting from being employed which would seem to have a lot to do with how much income workers have lost over the past fifty years.

This is What Minimum Wage Would Be If It Kept Pace with Productivity - Center for Economic and Policy Research

"Until 1968, the minimum wage not only kept pace with inflation, it rose in step with productivity growth. The logic is straightforward; we expect that wages in general will rise in step with productivity growth.

"For workers at the bottom to share in the overall improvement in society’s living standards, the minimum wage should also rise with productivity."

 

[georgephillip]

And so, it is the LEFTISTS who turn the working person into slaves, period. They did it before in the South, now they use a different method, steal your stuff before you get it!

I wasn't aware southern leftists were responsible for chattel slavery.
I've always thought racist, right-wing capitalists earned that distinction.

American Slavery and American Capitalism - Commonplace

"Schermerhorn emphasizes the importance of trust and confidence in the domestic slave trade, especially during the American banking boom in the 1820s and early 1830s.

"The slave trading adventures of Baltimore entrepreneur Austin Woolfolk demonstrate how important upper South slave traders’ reputations were to expanding their lower South business enterprises"

 

[Godboy]

Those now lining up against the Biden administration's $3.5 trillion Reconciliation Bill represent the same small segment of society that has always demanded working families demure to the wants and desires of the so-called "job creators."

The "job creator" fantasy is a malignant, but persistent myth that the corporate class and their power-suited courtiers use to squeeze the working class and extract their wealth.

The 'job creators' fantasy is a malignant myth that rich use to squeeze the working class

Those now lining up against the Biden administration's $3.5 trillion Reconciliation Bill represent the same small segment of society that has always demanded working families surrender to the wants and desires of the so-called "job creators." The "job creator" fantasy is a malignant, but...

www.rawstory.com

The job creators aren't really that good at creating jobs are they?

Anyone who creates a job is good at it, or at least good enough, obviously.

 

[georgephillip]

A wage-slave isn't a real thing. It's made up socialist propaganda to promote the conceit that employment is slavery. It's not - but it's important for socialists to compare them so people are more willing to accept state servitude.

Fuck you and your socialist handlers.

Your sympathy for fascists is duly noted, Slave.

https://clasberkeley.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/miltonandaugustoposter.jpg

"The view that wage work has substantial similarities with chattel slavery was actively put forward in the late 18th and 19th centuries by defenders of chattel slavery (most notably in the Southern states of the United States) and by opponents of capitalism (who were also critics of chattel slavery).[9][22]

"Some defenders of slavery, mainly from the Southern slave states, argued that Northern workers were 'free but in name – the slaves of endless toil' and that their slaves were better off.[23][24]

"This contention has been partly corroborated by some modern studies that indicate slaves' material conditions in the 19th century were 'better than what was typically available to free urban laborers at the time'.[25][26]

"In this period, Henry David Thoreau wrote that 't is hard to have a Southern overseer; it is worse to have a Northern one; but worst of all when you are the slave-driver of yourself.'"

Wage slavery - Wikipedia

Creatures that regard human beings as a commodity are incapable of fashioning anything remotely resembling free markets.

 

[dblack]

Your sympathy for fascists is duly noted, Slave.

https://clasberkeley.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/miltonandaugustoposter.jpg

"The view that wage work has substantial similarities with chattel slavery was actively put forward in the late 18th and 19th centuries by defenders of chattel slavery (most notably in the Southern states of the United States) and by opponents of capitalism (who were also critics of chattel slavery).[9][22]

"Some defenders of slavery, mainly from the Southern slave states, argued that Northern workers were 'free but in name – the slaves of endless toil' and that their slaves were better off.[23][24]

"This contention has been partly corroborated by some modern studies that indicate slaves' material conditions in the 19th century were 'better than what was typically available to free urban laborers at the time'.[25][26]

"In this period, Henry David Thoreau wrote that 't is hard to have a Southern overseer; it is worse to have a Northern one; but worst of all when you are the slave-driver of yourself.'"

Wage slavery - Wikipedia

Creatures that regard human beings as a commodity are incapable of fashioning anything remotely resembling free markets.

Nope. If you're allowed to quit a job, it is NOT slavery, "wage" or otherwise. But if equivocation is all ya' got ...

 

[georgephillip]

Nope. If you're allowed to quit a job, it is NOT slavery, "wage" or otherwise. But if equivocation is all ya' got ...

If quitting a sweatshop job puts your family on the street, you're not free except in the sense of being available for exploitation by the next slave to profit.

 

[dblack]

If quitting a sweatshop job puts your family on the street, you're not free except in the sense of being available for exploitation by the next slave to profit.

Horseshit. That's not even close to being whipped and kept in chains. "Wage slavery" is deceptive hyperbole. Especially since your final solution, which would force everyone to work for the state, is a far closer comparison to slavery.

 

[dblack]

Your sympathy for fascists is duly noted, Slave.

"Some defenders of slavery, mainly from the Southern slave states, argued that Northern workers were 'free but in name – the slaves of endless toil' and that their slaves were better off.[23][24]

You're using an utterly an evil rationalization for real slavery to support your position. And you claim I have "sympathy for fascists". That's pretty fucked up.