The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

So what accounts for his head pitching back and to the left if the driver shot him from front left...wouldn't his head have gone back and to the right?

Back and to the left is deceiving. He was leaning to the left along with his head turned leftward somewhat. He went straight back from his left leaning position and naturally slumped to the left after the shot.
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Makes a shitload more sense...almost as funny as you are.
 
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, they all corroborate that FK's head exploded on the right side. Not one indicated that there was a rear exit or that Greer could have made the fatal shot.

The closest witnesses saw the right rear exit as does every person viewing in it frame 313.
Clint describes a massive exit that could have only been caused by that goon, Greer.

Clint Hill saw the massive hole on the right rear portion of his head.

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.
Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, and he had slumped noticeably to his left. Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me, reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car, the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on the car. She turned toward me and I grabbed her and put her back in the back seat, crawled up on top of the back seat and lay there.


Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

The back of his head opens up at the moment of the front right impact.
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Warren Commission Suppressed Jackie's
Testimony On JFK's Head Wound

Court Reporter's Tape Shows
Additional Description Withheld


Dallas, TX -- August 5, 2001 -- JFK Lancer, an historical research firm reports that the Court Reporter's tape shows Jacqueline Kennedy's testimony before the Warren Commission had additional descriptions which were withheld.
Mrs. Kennedy testified in a short private session held at her home in Washington, D.C., with Chief Justice Earl Warren, Commission General Council J. Lee Rankin, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, and a court reporter in attendance. Testimony of witnesses before the Warren Commission was made public in the fall of 1964. Jacqueline Kennedy's testimony was also released containing her description of her husbands wounds which read :

"And just as I turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull and I remember it was flesh colored. I remember thinking he just looked as if he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No blood or anything."

But a second section in which she described the wounds she saw carried only the notation: (Reference to Wounds Deleted).
Although very few Americans actually read those transcripts, historians and researchers who did read them were outraged, and waged a legal battle to have the omitted testimony released. In the early 1970s, a court decision required the United States Government to disclose to the public the contents of the still classified section of Mrs. Kennedy's 1964 Warren Commission testimony. Her previously withheld statement read:

" I was trying to hold his hair on. From the front there was nothing --- I suppose there must have been.

But from the back you could see, you know, you were trying to hold his hair on, and his skull on."

Releasing this previously withheld section gave researchers what was assumed to be Mrs. Kennedy's complete description of the President's head wounds. Researchers took for granted that the hand-typed transcript page released by the National Archives from the official records of the Warren Commission ended the matter.

However, new analysis reveals that the original court tape actually reads:

"... I could see a piece of his skull sort of wedge-shaped, like that, and I remember that it was flesh colored with little ridges at the top."

Filmmaker Mark Sobel found the discrepancy while doing research for a forthcoming documentary on JFK. Sobel explained, "I was quite surprised to find that Mrs. Kennedy was not asked for more detail --- she had an opportunity to view the wounds longer and closer than any other person as they originally existed. Given the seemingly contradictory testimony by the doctors who treated the President at Parkland Hospital in Dallas just after the shooting and the Doctors who performed the autopsy at Bethesda many hours later, Mrs. Kennedy's testimony would appear critical."
Sobel filed under the Freedom of Information Act to have the court reporter's original tape of Mrs. Kennedy's testimony unsealed, citing that the content had already been fully declassified by the courts and that it was in the best interest of the public for the accuracy of the existing transcript to be verified. Sobel explained, "As I compared the 1964 transcript to the original court reporter's paper tape, I reached a sentence officially transcribed by the Warren Commission as: "I could see a piece of his skull, and I remember that it was flesh colored"words on the original paper taped no longer matched up."
Court Reporter Kathy Bradford of Bradford Court Reporting of Dallas, Texas, agreed. Bradford reviewed the transcript from the archives and certified Mrs. Kennedy's complete statement was not found in the Warren Commission's version..

This extra description was almost certainly witheld from the Commissioners and Legal Staff as well, since these descriptions are missing in the typed transcript that is contained in the actual Warren Commission Records --- before it was finally released publicly in its entirety.

Apprised of these new details, David Mantik, M.D., Ph.D. stated, "Given the lack of follow-up in Mrs. Kennedy's description to exactly what she saw, these details could have been valuable to the House Select Committee on Assassinations that reviewed the medical evidence." Mantik is one of the few doctors allowed to view President Kennedy's original autopsy materials in the National Archives.
Secret Service Agent Clint Hill, seen in films and photos in Dealey Plaza climbing onto the rear of the limousine, stated in his Warren Commission testimony,
"Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, and he had slumped noticeably to his left. Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me, reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car, the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on the car."
Debra Conway of JFK Lancer, says that the court reporter's tape is now on their web site. Conway stated, "Mrs. Kennedy also describes this piece of skull to historian Theodore White in her famous 'Camelot' interview where she told him, 'I could see a piece of his skull coming off; it was flesh colored not white--' This is very similar to what she said to the Warren Commission."
Conway went on to explain, "There were pieces of skull found in the street and in the limousine. The piece of skull described by Mrs. Kennedy could have been one of those later found in the street, the limousine, or an avulsed piece still attached to his head."
Researcher Barb Junkkarinen, who specializes in the medical evidence of the Kennedy assassination and is the Director of the JFK Alliance for Open Archives organization, told JFK Lancer, "The real 'find' here is that two specific descriptions of the head wound by Mrs. Kennedy (that the skull piece was wedge shaped, and that it had little ridges at the top) are not included in what is supposed to be the full and complete transcript of her testimony."
In his memoirs, Senator Arlen Specter, a Junior Council for the Warren Commission in 1964, suggests that the minimal testimony taken from Mrs. Kennedy was due to Earl Warren wishing to be protective of her, and that the handling of her testimony created some distress among other Commissioners and Legal Staff. However, in formerly Top Secret transcripts of the meetings of the seven Commissioners, Commissioner John J. McCloy repeatedly emphasized the importance of obtaining such testimony as quickly as possible "She's the best witness," he said "as to how those bullets struck her husband."

Junkkarinen adds, "Why they would withhold an accurate description is open to debate, but the fact that they put out an altered transcript is telling. How many other transcripts may have fallen victim to the same shenanigans? This is a find that proves alteration of original evidence, and that is important.
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The driver shot Kennedy square in the right forehead with the bullet logically exiting the right rear. That exit wound is corroborated by 40 witnesses and my recent work showing that jfk's rear skull gaped open at the moment of front right impact. Notice the right rear missing in the autopsy pic and compare that to frame 313.

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FRAME 337 SHOWING REAR GAPE AND JACKIE'S SHOCK.
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Thank you, Deb. I am sure you knew this day was coming sooner or later but never could've imagined that you would receive partial credit for exposing Greer as jfk's real assassin. All your hard work has finally paid off by providing an internet sleuth the closest eyewitness to the exit wound that only William Greer could've fired from the front on that fateful day, November 22, 1963.
 
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porsteamboy said:
I agree!! To say a GK shot was impossible is to assume that the exit would be in the left side and the bullet would follow a straight trajectory.

It did follow a straight trajectory as can be seen by viewing the front right impact and rear gaping at that moment. This excludes all grassy knoll bullshit. It was always a red herring and it's finally coming out, hardcore.

This gif proves the impact was in the right front which debunks the right side disinfo.
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20) NURSE DIANA HAMILTON BOWRON: greeted the limousine with a stretcher. She claimed, "...the back of his head...well, it was very bad--you know..." Arlen Specter failed to elucidate what she meant by the "back of the head" being very bad. (emphasis added) (WC V6:136 Within 48 hours of the assassination the British press relayed a second hand account from Bowron through her mother: "...there was blood all over this neck and shoulders. There was a gaping wound in the back of his head." (Livingstone, Killing the Truth , p. 180) Author Livingstone corresponded and spoke by phone with Bowron in 1993. He reported that Bowron claimed, "I first saw the large wound in the back of the head in the car. When we were preparing the body for the coffin I had the opportunity to examine it more closely. It was about five inches in diameter and there was no flap of skin covering it, just a fraction of skin along part of the edges of bone. There was, however, some hair hanging down from the top of the head, which was caked with blood, and most of the brain was missing. The wound was so large I could almost put my whole left fist inside." (Livingstone, Killing the Truth, p. 181) She also said, "...The hole was basically almost the size of a saucer, and sort of from the occiput. So there was quite a reasonable amount missing from the top as well." (Livingstone, Killing the Truth, p. 190) When asked her opinion of the nature of the defect in the rear of the skull, Bowron told Livingstone, "Well, to me it was an exit hole." (Livingstone, Killing the Truth, p. 192) Livingstone asked, "Did you see any entry hole in the back of the head?". "I assumed and I still do that that was an exit wound." Bowron answered. ( Killing the Truth , p. 195). Bowron prepared a drawing depicting the skull wound as she saw it for Livingstone which bears a striking similarity to the diagram of the wound prepared by Robert McClelland, MD and agreed to by Paul Peters, MD ( High Treason in group of images following p. 23 in hard cover edition.) It shows a defect squarely in the occiput on the right side; a second diagram depicting the skull from above shows the right rear quadrant of the skull absent with the notation "missing". (Killing the Truth,in images following p. 368)
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Well, 7forever, I'm sold that the driver was in on it.



Two questions --



1. Who was really behind the assassination? I have previously placed my money on the Brits.

2. What ever became of William Greer? zg



He died in 85. It was an inside job by jfk's own administration and likely other factions in and out of government.
 
More questions --


Do you not give any culpability to the Brits, per ZG's assertion?
What was the primary reason for the coup d'tet?
BTW, the driver gambit may have been used on Reagan too.

John Judge claims that the driver shot Reagan. I think he asserts that it was with a flechette gun.



Another BTW - William Greer's Wiki entry - there is enough speculation about Greer's complicity that someone should add it to the Wiki.



See also - The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt

William Greer, driver



I never tried but wiki is censored alot from a what I hear. I don't know why because that's NOT my thing but I'm sure many people wanted jfk dead for many reasons.
 
Dr. Baxter of Parkland Hospital..." The only wound that I actually saw-- This wound was in the TEMPORAL PARIETAL plate of bone laid outward to the side and there was a large area, oh , I would say 6 by 8 or 10 cm of lacerated brain oozing from the wound, part of which was on the table and made a rather massive blood loss mixed withit and around it".

Show one frame which shows your WC exit wound, you looney.LOL There was no exit on the right side because if there was, there would be some photographic evidence of one. The exit was on the right right rear which slow motion has finally proven beyond all doubt.
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The exit wound could have caused bone loss in all three areas Humes describes but it was on the right rear. It didn't extend into the occipital region, it was in the occipital region and probably extended at least into the Parietal region but Temporal is more questionable. It doesn't look at all like any bone is missing on the right side or blown out except the right rear...this is evidence enhanced by WC crazies.
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More questions --


Do you not give any culpability to the Brits, per ZG's assertion?
What was the primary reason for the coup d'tet?
BTW, the driver gambit may have been used on Reagan too.

John Judge claims that the driver shot Reagan. I think he asserts that it was with a flechette gun.



Another BTW - William Greer's Wiki entry - there is enough speculation about Greer's complicity that someone should add it to the Wiki.



See also - The Last Confessions of E. Howard Hunt

William Greer, driver



I never tried but wiki is censored alot from a what I hear. I don't know why because that's NOT my thing but I'm sure many people wanted jfk dead for many reasons.

yeah wiki is not a reliable source,they can type in anything they want to there.
 
At trial, the kooks could NOT explain away the grey steak which is obviously a fake covering for Greer's forearm extention. The grey steak is 100% fake and covers Greer's forearm and elbow extention when he shoots jfk. The grey is over his shoulder first and then across when it's needed.

OVER, then across when it's needed.
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GOON SQUAD ALTERATION creates perfect view of gun with recoil and separation when it's fired.
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Greer's left arm/hand cross his right shoulder giving reason for this laughable fakery from what's an ancient time in history compared to 2011.
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By chance do you have any way of slowing down this film pic and seing his his left arm go slower backwards by chance?
 
His forearm is in the sun.

You don't what the hell you're talking about in the least. His forearm is not supposed to be at shoulder length and that is why they had to create a fake grey streak to mimic those movements in the Zapruder (because Greer's arm/hand really did cross when he shot Kennedy) to give plausible denial for silly people like yourself. You just demonstrated perfectly, you have zero knowledge of this case and are incapable of grasping common sense.

This clown just admitted to Greer's forearm being at shoulder height and doesn't understand that it's really not supposed to be his arm but really is and it's really fake because it's not supposed to be crossing but really is because nix and muchmore prove it really did cross when he shot jfk. The illusion has been proven a reality.
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thanks,i see why you show the other one in regular motion all the time,its more conclusive,this one you really cant see it very clearly.
 
If you watch the Nix Film after the head shot Greer does not seem to return to the steering wheel immediately and instead seems to duck down to the right side of the front seat by Kellerman. In the Z film Greer's head turn is very fast but a remnant in the frames below from the Z-toon watch closely the false glare on top of Kellerman's head suddenly disappear and shift down in front of him. You can see Greer's left arm with a whitish hand and gun that has been bleached out drop the pistol in front of Kellerman who retrieves it at the end of the video in slow mo.

If Greer was merely looking for JFK to get shot why didn't he return to the steering wheel immediately & why the ducking action seen in NIX and not seen in Z when he turns to the front again after the head shot? Many witnesses said the limo slowed or stopped AFTER the head shot debunking a quick turnaround by Greer before flooring the gas pedal. Obviously he had a gun in his left hand to drop before putting his hands back on the wheel!
Also,there is no glare on Kellermans head from the sun in the very beginning it only comes on a few seconds later which proves it has been tampered with and proves the Oswald did it apologists wrong that the z film wasnt tampered with and thats the glare of the sunlight since the glare would be there THE ENTIRE TIME,so that shoots down the lone nut theorists theory that that is the glare of agent Kellermans head.

The zapruder film as we all know was altered and tampered with unlike the Nix film.
The forgers had a hard time getting all the snipping, pasting and repainting done in such a way that the timing of the characters in the "film" are strangely out of sync with everyday normal actions...ie...Greers superhuman head turns, Brehm's son appearing too quickly from behind and clapping...others are stiff and frozen looking, Jean Hill and Mary Moorman, plus Altgens too. As well, the large grouping of people prior to the Stemmons sign are mostly unmoving, totally unrealistic with normal crowds behavior upon seeing Jacky and JFK.
I agree that it is Z that has been most heavily edited and the difference in the location and movements of Greers arms between N and Z proves alteration. This alone should be enough to start an investigation by a normal prosecutor, upon seeing impossible differences between two films of the same Murder.
The chilling thing here is really that the planners and current power structure that keeps covering this sick execution up are daring us to do something about it and feel in control enough that they are confident we wont try it, or will get sidetracked into a useless HSCA type scenario in the 70s which the planners controlled to get the desired results.
 
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If you watch the Nix Film after the head shot Greer does not seem to return to the steering wheel immediately and instead seems to duck down to the right side of the front seat by Kellerman. In the Z film Greer's head turn is very fast but a remnant in the frames below from the Z-toon watch closely the false glare on top of Kellerman's head suddenly disappear and shift down in front of him. You can see Greer's left arm with a whitish hand and gun that has been bleached out drop the pistol in front of Kellerman who retrieves it at the end of the video in slow mo.

If Greer was merely looking for JFK to get shot why didn't he return to the steering wheel immediately & why the ducking action seen in NIX and not seen in Z when he turns to the front again after the head shot? Many witnesses said the limo slowed or stopped AFTER the head shot debunking a quick turnaround by Greer before flooring the gas pedal. Obviously he had a gun in his left hand to drop before putting his hands back on the wheel!
Also,there is no glare on Kellermans head from the sun in the very beginning it only comes on a few seconds later which proves it has been tampered with and proves the Oswald did it apologists wrong that the z film wasnt tampered with and thats the glare of the sunlight since the glare would be there THE ENTIRE TIME,so that shoots down the lone nut theorists theory that that is the glare of agent Kellermans head.

The zapruder film as we all know was altered and tampered with unlike the Nix film.
The forgers had a hard time getting all the snipping, pasting and repainting done in such a way that the timing of the characters in the "film" are strangely out of sync with everyday normal actions...ie...Greers superhuman head turns, Brehm's son appearing too quickly from behind and clapping...others are stiff and frozen looking, Jean Hill and Mary Moorman, plus Altgens too. As well, the large grouping of people prior to the Stemmons sign are mostly unmoving, totally unrealistic with normal crowds behavior upon seeing Jacky and JFK.
I agree that it is Z that has been most heavily edited and the difference in the location and movements of Greers arms between N and Z proves alteration. This alone should be enough to start an investigation by a normal prosecutor, upon seeing impossible differences between two films of the same Murder.
The chilling thing here is really that the planners and current power structure that keeps covering this sick execution up are daring us to do something about it and feel in control enough that they are confident we wont try it, or will get sidetracked into a useless HSCA type scenario in the 70s which the planners controlled to get the desired results.
I see that you're still a total moron.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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