The Joys Of Socialism

[bripat9643]

Where the government guarantees food to its workers

people lining up for bread rations in Caracas Venezuela (aka; socialist paradise)

The Joys of Socialism? Venezuelan Shoppers Queue For Six Hours at Local Markets | The Gateway Pundit

This is NOT a manifestation, but a queue to buy food Venezuela. The result of 15 years of Socialist rule. (RGF3 Esq.)

It now takes Venezuelans up to six hours of standing in line to purchase food staples at the local market.

The people even have to queue for gas

Venezuela: massive proven petrochemical reserves, yet people forced to queue to fill gas bottles.

A glimpse into our future?

No doubt about it. You keep letting socialists (aka; democrats) run things and I can PROMISE you, you'll know the Joys of Socialism first hand.

It's right there in front of you. All you gotta do is open your eyes

Yup, America is very similar to Venezuela.

It's getting more similar all the time.

 

[Mr Natural]

Where the government guarantees food to its workers

people lining up for bread rations in Caracas Venezuela (aka; socialist paradise)

The Joys of Socialism? Venezuelan Shoppers Queue For Six Hours at Local Markets | The Gateway Pundit

This is NOT a manifestation, but a queue to buy food Venezuela. The result of 15 years of Socialist rule. (RGF3 Esq.)

It now takes Venezuelans up to six hours of standing in line to purchase food staples at the local market.

The people even have to queue for gas

Venezuela: massive proven petrochemical reserves, yet people forced to queue to fill gas bottles.

A glimpse into our future?

No doubt about it. You keep letting socialists (aka; democrats) run things and I can PROMISE you, you'll know the Joys of Socialism first hand.

It's right there in front of you. All you gotta do is open your eyes

Yup, America is very similar to Venezuela.

It's getting more similar all the time.

I know exactly what you mean!

Why just the other day, I had to wait a good 10 minutes to check out at the supermarket!

Fucking Socialist Bastards!

 

[DriftingSand]

If we put the government in charge of the Sahara within 5 years we'd have a shortage of sand.-Friedman.

LOL. Ronald Reagan would have produced an over-abundance of sand. Obama would be borrowing sand from China.

 

[DriftingSand]

Socialism is terrible. We got it.

So in you're opinion, which country in the world has their shit together the best? (not including the U.S.) What country do you think is the best run, the people are doing well and there is overall prosperity? Use any criteria you'd like, but tell us which country is doing well in your opinion.

Socialist China was totally in the crapper until she embraced Capitalism. Now her loans keep America barely afloat. The main difference is that she doesn't have all the debilitating regulations, fees, fines, taxes, etc.

 

[Crystalclear]

The ultimate form of bureaucracy...

 

[Mr Natural]

If we put the government in charge of the Sahara within 5 years we'd have a shortage of sand.-Friedman.

LOL. Ronald Reagan would have produced an over-abundance of sand. Obama would be borrowing sand from China.

The only thing St Reagan produced was debt.

 

[The Rabbi]

If we put the government in charge of the Sahara within 5 years we'd have a shortage of sand.-Friedman.

LOL. Ronald Reagan would have produced an over-abundance of sand. Obama would be borrowing sand from China.

The only thing St Reagan produced was debt.

And a re-energized manufacturing sector
And a triumph in the COld War
And a reduction in inflation.
And an increase in employment
And a modernized military

But continue on with your stupid memes. Obama's deficits are bigger than Reagan's entire budget.

 

[bripat9643]

Yup, America is very similar to Venezuela.

It's getting more similar all the time.

I know exactly what you mean!

Why just the other day, I had to wait a good 10 minutes to check out at the supermarket!

Fucking Socialist Bastards!

You won't be making jokes when you have to wait 18 months to get an artificial hip replacement or the death panel decides not to allow you to receive that expensive cancer drug.

 

[bripat9643]

Singapore is as capitalist a nation as there is. Note that there everyone pays for medical service. There is no "free" medical care.

I'm not sure Singapore is the best example to use.

Besides, we have about 500 Health Care threads going, don't let them change the subject on you.

socialism sucks. socialism is harmful to children and other living things.

In the last 100 years, socialism has been responsible for the murder... MURDER, not War Casualties...... MURDER, of One Hundred Million Human Beings.

But dimocraps want to try it again.

It's one reason why I call them scum. Another is... They lie. They can't go five minutes without telling a bald-faced fucking lie.

If there's an honest dimocrap in here, I sure as hell don't know who it is.

socialism sucks. And the proponents of it are even worse. They know it doesn't work and they don't care

I'll ask YOU again, since you've done everything you can to avoid answering. What country in the world (besides the U.S.) is doing things right in your opinion? We know you think Venezuela sucks. But who is prospering and flourishing in your opinion?

Time to put that loud mouth to use chief.

No country is doing things totally right. That would be as unthinkable as Harry Reid telling the truth.

 

[bripat9643]

I'll ask YOU again, since you've done everything you can to avoid answering. What country in the world (besides the U.S.) is doing things right in your opinion? We know you think Venezuela sucks. But who is prospering and flourishing in your opinion?

Time to put that loud mouth to use chief.

What difference does it make? Some countries are freer than others. All of them maintain control to some degree. The freer they are, the better they are. The more control the gov't exerts, the worse they are. As countries move from free market to gov't control, their rate of growth declines and their standard of living stagnates. This is all the time, everywhere, in every case.

So which country is the "freest"? Pick any criteria you want. Just commit to something for once in your life.

Heritage Index of Economic Freedom:

1 Hong Kong
2 Singapore
3 Australia
4 Switzerland
5 New Zealand
6 Canada
7 Chile
8 Mauritius
9 Ireland
10 Denmark
11 Estonia
12 United States​

 

[Mr Natural]

It's getting more similar all the time.

I know exactly what you mean!

Why just the other day, I had to wait a good 10 minutes to check out at the supermarket!

Fucking Socialist Bastards!

You won't be making jokes when you have to wait 18 months to get an artificial hip replacement or the death panel decides not to allow you to receive that expensive cancer drug.

Yes I will, because what you describe is not going to happen.

 

[bripat9643]

I know exactly what you mean!

Why just the other day, I had to wait a good 10 minutes to check out at the supermarket!

Fucking Socialist Bastards!

You won't be making jokes when you have to wait 18 months to get an artificial hip replacement or the death panel decides not to allow you to receive that expensive cancer drug.

Yes I will, because what you describe is not going to happen.

That's what happens in every other country with socialized medicine. Why do you think the American government is any different?

 

[Mr Natural]

You won't be making jokes when you have to wait 18 months to get an artificial hip replacement or the death panel decides not to allow you to receive that expensive cancer drug.

Yes I will, because what you describe is not going to happen.

That's what happens in every other country with socialized medicine. Why do you think the American government is any different?

We don't have socialized medicine.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes I will, because what you describe is not going to happen.

That's what happens in every other country with socialized medicine. Why do you think the American government is any different?

We don't have socialized medicine.

According to your definition, neither does Canada, but they still have to wait 18 months to get an artificial hip and up to a year to get an MRI.

 

[RDD_1210]

What difference does it make? Some countries are freer than others. All of them maintain control to some degree. The freer they are, the better they are. The more control the gov't exerts, the worse they are. As countries move from free market to gov't control, their rate of growth declines and their standard of living stagnates. This is all the time, everywhere, in every case.

So which country is the "freest"? Pick any criteria you want. Just commit to something for once in your life.

Heritage Index of Economic Freedom:

1 Hong Kong
2 Singapore
3 Australia
4 Switzerland
5 New Zealand
6 Canada
7 Chile
8 Mauritius
9 Ireland
10 Denmark
11 Estonia
12 United States​

I see a lot of "socialism" on that list of "freedom".

 

[RDD_1210]

I'm not sure Singapore is the best example to use.

Besides, we have about 500 Health Care threads going, don't let them change the subject on you.

socialism sucks. socialism is harmful to children and other living things.

In the last 100 years, socialism has been responsible for the murder... MURDER, not War Casualties...... MURDER, of One Hundred Million Human Beings.

But dimocraps want to try it again.

It's one reason why I call them scum. Another is... They lie. They can't go five minutes without telling a bald-faced fucking lie.

If there's an honest dimocrap in here, I sure as hell don't know who it is.

socialism sucks. And the proponents of it are even worse. They know it doesn't work and they don't care

I'll ask YOU again, since you've done everything you can to avoid answering. What country in the world (besides the U.S.) is doing things right in your opinion? We know you think Venezuela sucks. But who is prospering and flourishing in your opinion?

Time to put that loud mouth to use chief.

No country is doing things totally right. That would be as unthinkable as Harry Reid telling the truth.

Of course no place is perfect but even your best example has major components of their society running on "socialist" policies. And yet you're too chicken shit to discuss that fact. Why is that?

 

[RDD_1210]

Yes I will, because what you describe is not going to happen.

That's what happens in every other country with socialized medicine. Why do you think the American government is any different?

We don't have socialized medicine.

Every single industrialized nation has a more socialized system than we do. Every single one.

 

[Geaux4it]

And they have universal healthcare and stricter gun laws than in the U.S.

Sounds pretty good.

I doubt liberals would endorse Sinapore's healthcare system:

Healthcare in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system, largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies, and price controls. Singapore's system uses a combination of compulsory savings from payroll deductions to provide subsidies within a nationalized health insurance plan known as Medisave. Within Medisave, each citizen accumulates funds that are individually tracked, and such funds can be pooled within and across an entire extended family. The vast majority of Singapore citizens have substantial savings in this scheme. One of three levels of subsidy is chosen by the patient at the time of the healthcare episode.

A key principle of Singapore's national health scheme is that no medical service is provided free of charge, regardless of the level of subsidy, even within the public healthcare system. This mechanism is intended to reduce the overutilisation of healthcare services, a phenomenon often seen in fully subsidised universal health insurance systems. Out-of-pocket charges vary considerably for each service and level of subsidy. At the highest level of subsidy, although each out-of-pocket expense is typically small, costs can accumulate and become substantial for patients and families. At the lowest level, the subsidy is in effect nonexistent, and patients are treated like private patients, even within the public system.

The increasingly large private sector provides care to those who are privately insured, foreign patients, or public patients who are able to afford what often amount to very large out-of-pocket payments above the levels provided by government subsidies.

Approximately 70-80% of Singaporeans obtain their medical care within the public health system. Overall government spending on healthcare amounts to only 3-4% of annual GDP,[dubious – discuss] partly because government expenditure on healthcare in the private system is extremely low.

LOL, so you like the system that is nationalized "largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies, and price controls."?

I think it sounds like a solid system, whats not to like? Public insurance for all, private insurance who want and can afford it.

I'm glad to hear you think a Nationalized system based on subsidies and price controls can work.

Let's make this happen here. You on board?

Whats not to like? What ever happened to having pride in ones self? the pride that comes from getting things done yourself instead of depending on the government and blaming others?

-Geaux

 

[RDD_1210]

I doubt liberals would endorse Sinapore's healthcare system:

Healthcare in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL, so you like the system that is nationalized "largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies, and price controls."?

I think it sounds like a solid system, whats not to like? Public insurance for all, private insurance who want and can afford it.

I'm glad to hear you think a Nationalized system based on subsidies and price controls can work.

Let's make this happen here. You on board?

Whats not to like? What ever happened to having pride in ones self? the pride that comes from getting things done yourself instead of depending on the government and blaming others?

-Geaux

Right. What's not to like?

It's a universal healthcare system that uses subsidies and price controls to ensure all people are covered.

Would you advocate for a similar system here?

This is where you never respond.

 

[Geaux4it]

LOL, so you like the system that is nationalized "largely through a system of compulsory savings, subsidies, and price controls."?

I think it sounds like a solid system, whats not to like? Public insurance for all, private insurance who want and can afford it.

I'm glad to hear you think a Nationalized system based on subsidies and price controls can work.

Let's make this happen here. You on board?

Whats not to like? What ever happened to having pride in ones self? the pride that comes from getting things done yourself instead of depending on the government and blaming others?

-Geaux

Right. What's not to like?

It's a universal healthcare system that uses subsidies and price controls to ensure all people are covered.

Would you advocate for a similar system here?

This is where you never respond.

You must have me mixed up with another. I always state my case. Especially to such a simple question

No- I do not advocate for a similar system to Obamacare if that's your question

-Geaux