The jury will not give Trump a prison sentence. They are only responsible for deciding whether Trump is guilty or not guilty of the charges.

[Meathead]

The jury will make that decision NOT the RW media

You have an amazing grasp of the obvious. Are there any other pearls of knowledge you would like to share with us?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Everything about this case and trial is a mockery of US Justice. The Judge should be defrocked.

"It’s hard to stress the significance of what Steinglass is saying — both that this case is not about Michael Cohen, and that Cohen was exactly what Trump wanted in a lawyer."

Mentions of Trump's circle being a gutter:

"The argument that Joshua Steinglass is making about Michael Cohen right now is a prosecutorial classic when it comes to cooperating witnesses: if you want to know what happens in the gutter, you have to talk to the rats. But here, prosecutors are not talking about classic street crime, but about a plot to defraud the American people. “This case is not about Michael Cohen,” Steinglass says. “It’s about Donald Trump.”"

Power Shifts to Jury as Closing Arguments Finish in Trump Trial

Jurors heard a meticulous recounting of five weeks of testimony in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump, in which prosecutors argued he tried to “hoodwink the American voter.” The defense said there was not “a shred of evidence.”

www.nytimes.com

Uh oh! Building the case through an argument. No wonder Trump has thrown shit-fits over the defense going first, leaving the prosecution to have the last word. This all before any sentencing, which is not the jury's decision.

Reminds me of "Hillary The Movie" and "Citizens United":

Todd Blanche, this morning, told a narrow story, which he began by distancing his client from documents prosecutors say were falsified and ended by attacking Michael Cohen over and over again. Joshua Steinglass, by contrast, is telling a sweeping story about a fraud on the American people, and using some of the lofty language that you would associate with such an argument. He argues that the American people in 2016 had the right to determine whether they cared that Trump had slept with a porn star or not, and that the conspiracy prevented them from doing so.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I don't know if the judge or the jury does the sentencing.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Uh oh!

An experienced and very good prosecutor at work:





Wow!

"Listening to this from Joshua Steinglass, and knowing we have hours to go — if Todd Blanche accomplishes nothing else in this trial, it will have been a miracle that he got Trump to agree not to testify and kept him relatively calm in the courtroom."

Yeah, Stein glass is a genius. How long did he pause for Trump to be located and talked into coming to the phone?

 

[para bellum]

Yeah, Stein glass is a genius. How long did he pause for Trump to be located and talked into coming to the phone?

Reminds me of Adam Schiff in the first Trump impeachment.

Just make up a bunch of shit and pretend that's how it went...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Everything about this case and trial is a mockery of US Justice. The Judge should be defrocked.

"It’s hard to stress the significance of what Steinglass is saying — both that this case is not about Michael Cohen, and that Cohen was exactly what Trump wanted in a lawyer."

Mentions of Trump's circle being a gutter:

"The argument that Joshua Steinglass is making about Michael Cohen right now is a prosecutorial classic when it comes to cooperating witnesses: if you want to know what happens in the gutter, you have to talk to the rats. But here, prosecutors are not talking about classic street crime, but about a plot to defraud the American people. “This case is not about Michael Cohen,” Steinglass says. “It’s about Donald Trump.”"

Power Shifts to Jury as Closing Arguments Finish in Trump Trial

Jurors heard a meticulous recounting of five weeks of testimony in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump, in which prosecutors argued he tried to “hoodwink the American voter.” The defense said there was not “a shred of evidence.”

www.nytimes.com

Uh oh! Building the case through an argument. No wonder Trump has thrown shit-fits over the defense going first, leaving the prosecution to have the last word. This all before any sentencing, which is not the jury's decision.

Reminds me of "Hillary The Movie" and "Citizens United":

Todd Blanche, this morning, told a narrow story, which he began by distancing his client from documents prosecutors say were falsified and ended by attacking Michael Cohen over and over again. Joshua Steinglass, by contrast, is telling a sweeping story about a fraud on the American people, and using some of the lofty language that you would associate with such an argument. He argues that the American people in 2016 had the right to determine whether they cared that Trump had slept with a porn star or not, and that the conspiracy prevented them from doing so.

Trump will not see Prison in this case.

If convicted, some type of probation, community service, fine

May 28, 2024, 4:31 p.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie Haberman
Reporting from inside the courthouse

To believe the defense’s version of events, jurors will have to take Todd Blanche’s word that Michael Cohen was freelancing and Trump had no knowledge of what was happening with Stormy Daniels.

But Blanche's closing argument as much reflected the defense's theory of the case — that Cohen is an unreliable liar — as it did what Blanche's client wanted to see, which is Cohen get roughed up in court.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Yeah, Stein glass is a genius. How long did he pause for Trump to be located and talked into coming to the phone?

quote --

Joshua Steinglass did something fairly remarkable here as he sought to counter the defense's argument that Michael Cohen called Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, not Trump himself, on the evening of Oct. 24. The defense argued that the call was about a teenage prank caller who had been bothering him, not about arranging the hush-money payment, as prosecutors had said.

Steinglass just started a timer and pretended to have the exact same conversation, adding plenty of asides and silences as he played the role of Cohen, talking first to Schiller and then to Trump.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump will not see Prison in this case.

If convicted, some type of probation, community service, fine

Correct. Adult probation and a neat little fine.

Now, if he can't stop criming while on probation...

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Reminds me of Adam Schiff in the first Trump impeachment.

Just make up a bunch of shit and pretend that's how it went...

And Trump was impeached. Thank you Adam Schiff.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I don't know if the judge or the jury does the sentencing.

Judge. Jury will not be doing that here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And Trump was impeached. Thank you Adam Schiff.

Trumpers are delusional.

Trump was impeached based on an audio recording of his own, idiot mouth.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

That Trump goes to prison is a lefties wet dream. In the unlikely event he is convicted of anything, it won't make any difference anyway. Only very stupid people believe this something other than a witch hunt and they're all lefties anyway.

observation from within the courtroom --

One thing Joshua Steinglass has to do — and I assume he will do it in a focused way in the next several hours — is show the jurors that the alleged Trump Tower conspiracy between David Pecker, Michael Cohen and Trump involved using “unlawful means” to aid Trump’s election.

Steinglass just pulled out one of the potential unlawful means, a document called a business information overview that Cohen created as he sought to obtain the cash to pay Stormy Daniels.

 

[MarathonMike]

"It’s hard to stress the significance of what Steinglass is saying — both that this case is not about Michael Cohen, and that Cohen was exactly what Trump wanted in a lawyer."

Mentions of Trump's circle being a gutter:

"The argument that Joshua Steinglass is making about Michael Cohen right now is a prosecutorial classic when it comes to cooperating witnesses: if you want to know what happens in the gutter, you have to talk to the rats. But here, prosecutors are not talking about classic street crime, but about a plot to defraud the American people. “This case is not about Michael Cohen,” Steinglass says. “It’s about Donald Trump.”"

Power Shifts to Jury as Closing Arguments Finish in Trump Trial

Jurors heard a meticulous recounting of five weeks of testimony in the criminal trial of Donald J. Trump, in which prosecutors argued he tried to “hoodwink the American voter.” The defense said there was not “a shred of evidence.”

www.nytimes.com

Uh oh! Building the case through an argument. No wonder Trump has thrown shit-fits over the defense going first, leaving the prosecution to have the last word. This all before any sentencing, which is not the jury's decision.

Reminds me of "Hillary The Movie" and "Citizens United":




May 28, 2024, 4:31 p.m. ET2 hours ago
2 hours ago
Maggie Haberman
Reporting from inside the courthouse

To believe the defense’s version of events, jurors will have to take Todd Blanche’s word that Michael Cohen was freelancing and Trump had no knowledge of what was happening with Stormy Daniels.

But Blanche's closing argument as much reflected the defense's theory of the case — that Cohen is an unreliable liar — as it did what Blanche's client wanted to see, which is Cohen get roughed up in court.

I think you are too emotionally involved in your Trump hate. You should take a chill pill. Here you go.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I think you are too emotionally involved in your Trump hate. You should take a chill pill. Here you go.

really? Okay.

Steinglass just pulled out one of the potential unlawful means, a document called a business information overview that Cohen created as he sought to obtain the cash to pay Stormy Daniels.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

“the smoking guns” of the prosecution’s argument, saying they “completely blow out of the water the claim the money paid to Cohen” was for legal services.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Trumpers are delusional.

Trump was impeached based on an audio recording of his own, idiot mouth.

Yep. Delusional.


observations:

Joshua Steinglass landed his argument by saying that while the sex between Daniels and Trump allegedly took place in 2006, the payoff wasn’t until 2016 because his concern wasn’t actually his family, as his lawyers have suggested, but the election.

It’s a simple deductive point that the jurors can likely understand easily.


Though many of Trump’s family members have been staring at their phones throughout this summation, all of them looked up when Steinglass said that.

 

[para bellum]

And Trump was impeached. Thank you Adam Schiff.

Yeah, we know the democrat party and the truth don't really go together...

 

[para bellum]

Steinglass just pulled out one of the potential unlawful means, a document called a business information overview that Cohen created as he sought to obtain the cash to pay Stormy Daniels.

Oh well there ya have it! The SMOKING GUN!

LMAO.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Yeah, we know the democrat party and the truth don't really go together...

More nuttiness from your leader:

Trump hasn’t spoken publicly since entering court this morning. But during this most recent break, he posted “BORING!” on Truth Social with no context. The timing suggests he is not so energized by Joshua Steinglass’s closing argument, which started more than 3 hours ago.

He also posted “FILIBUSTER!,” which is not a thing in court.