The Keystone Pipeline: Jobs!

Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

What's wrong with construction jobs?

Also even if the pipeline itself doesn't add a lot of jobs, it's still jobs.

Most of that pipeline is already completed. Can you name one report where those jobs had any noticeable effect on employment? What makes you think the last part will? We could add a few jobs by tearing down all our bridges, but that probably isn't a good enough reason to do it.
Most is completed just 4 months after Trump approved construction?

Is there anything Trump can't do?
 
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Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
Obama built dog parks and the left cheered at his job creating skills.
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

When you can run your car on solar, let us know.
It's not as far away as you think.

I will expect the same performance as from a gas powered vehicle, otherwise no dice.
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

Excellent! I enjoy proof of the low productivity of solar.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)




Lmfao great point...







Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.




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Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
How many permanent jobs created by building a bridge?

You lefties keep validating why America has turned its back on you.

Oh is he going to redo the bridges? When is that? Sometime , we will be shocked.

Obama fixed the infrastructure in his 8 years didn't he?

Nope, didn't you hear, Republicans passed the budget and their number 2 goal was to not allow Obama to fix anything. Oh, you want to know what their #1 goal was? What it has always been, to keep their pt job and continue to be paid FT wages, have great benefits and all kinds of perks.
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

Excellent! I enjoy proof of the low productivity of solar.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)




Lmfao great point...







Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.




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??? Is your point less jobs are better than more jobs???
 
When you can run your car on solar, let us know.


Question to all: A Tesla car runs on Batteries. Most are parked all day in the hot sun with no cover at worksites.

Why not integrate solar panels.........built into roof and or trunk? Telsa bought solar city, correct? Every time I get in a car and it is 140DEG inside parked out in PHX AZ, I wonder. I really wonder. Even a trickle-charge is free?


EDIT: Many styles of panels on the market.
2 solar panels in series could get over 100V DC with at least 8 amps current flow?
Or
4 solar panels in parallel could get >30 amps at around 58V DC.

Are they too ugly? Heavy? Why not built into the roof of these Tesla Sedans?
 
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Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
How many permanent jobs created by building a bridge?

You lefties keep validating why America has turned its back on you.

Oh is he going to redo the bridges? When is that? Sometime , we will be shocked.

They were "shovel ready" as Obama described them in 2009. Obama was in office 8 years. They are still shovel ready.

Trump has been in office six months.

The pubs would not approve an infrastructure plan, remember.
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
How many permanent jobs created by building a bridge?

You lefties keep validating why America has turned its back on you.

Oh is he going to redo the bridges? When is that? Sometime , we will be shocked.

Obama fixed the infrastructure in his 8 years didn't he?

Nope, didn't you hear, Republicans passed the budget and their number 2 goal was to not allow Obama to fix anything. Oh, you want to know what their #1 goal was? What it has always been, to keep their pt job and continue to be paid FT wages, have great benefits and all kinds of perks.
What was the vote that allowed Obama to ship billions to Iran in cold cash?
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
How many permanent jobs created by building a bridge?

You lefties keep validating why America has turned its back on you.

Oh is he going to redo the bridges? When is that? Sometime , we will be shocked.

Obama fixed the infrastructure in his 8 years didn't he?

Nope, didn't you hear, Republicans passed the budget and their number 2 goal was to not allow Obama to fix anything. Oh, you want to know what their #1 goal was? What it has always been, to keep their pt job and continue to be paid FT wages, have great benefits and all kinds of perks.

What was the vote that allowed Obama to ship billions to Iran in cold cash?

NON SEQUITUR
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

Excellent! I enjoy proof of the low productivity of solar.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)




Lmfao great point...







Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.




.

??? Is your point less jobs are better than more jobs???



Let me guess your another liberal that wants to outlaw automation ?


This is funny almost 400,000 workers just to produce 1.4% electricity


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Bloody fools. Trying this bullshit again. Construction jobs are always temporary.

:lol:

Should no project ever be built because the construction jobs are temporary? The stupidity of this so called argument is astounding.

ETA the stats on Keystone Cushing to the Gulf project that was completed while every eco moron was protesting the XL.

Check out the labour stats.

Construction of the Gulf Coast Pipeline Project required:

US$2.3 billion in private sector investment

Six modern pump stations

More than 11 million hours of labor completed by 4,844 workers in the
United States of America
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Heavy equipment operators, welders, laborers, transportation operators and supervisory personnel (including environment, safety and quality control inspectors)

More than 50 contracts with U.S. manufacturers and companies
building the pipeline and equipment in locations that include: Arkansas, California, Georgia,
Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New
York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Texas

The manufacturing of more than 485 miles of high strength, advanced oil
pipeline
(36 inch diameter); hundreds of large valves; thousands of fittings;
thousands of pieces of equipment used to build transformers, meters, electric
motors, cabling and electrical equipment; and piping assembling and structural
steel for supports

About
2.25 million barrels of new oil storage capacity
at Cushing, Oklahoma.

http://www.keystone-xl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Gulf-Coast-Pipeline-Economic-Analysis.pdf



And even if they are temporary jobs , it will boost the local community at least for that while.
 
When you can run your car on solar, let us know.


Question to all: A Tesla car runs on Batteries. Most are parked all day in the hot sun with no cover at worksites.

Why not integrate solar panels.........built into roof and or trunk? Telsa bought solar city, correct? Every time I get in a car and it is 140DEG inside parked out in PHX AZ, I wonder. I really wonder. Even a trickle-charge is free?

Most schools have solar panels which staff and students old enough to drive park under:

Vote which created the solar panels in school parking lots - Google Search
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.
How many permanent jobs created by building a bridge?

You lefties keep validating why America has turned its back on you.

Oh is he going to redo the bridges? When is that? Sometime , we will be shocked.

They were "shovel ready" as Obama described them in 2009. Obama was in office 8 years. They are still shovel ready.

Trump has been in office six months.

The pubs would not approve an infrastructure plan, remember.

After Obama's "stimulus", wasn't all the infrastructure fixed? Why not?
 
Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

Excellent! I enjoy proof of the low productivity of solar.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)




Lmfao great point...







Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117

Solar, 1.4% of our electricity generation takes more than twice as many workers as the fossil fuels, gas and coal, that generate over 64% of our electricity.




.

??? Is your point less jobs are better than more jobs???

We should hire people to ride bicycles attached to generators.
Think of all the jobs.
Think of all the "green energy".
Think of all the wasted spending.
DERP!
 
When you can run your car on solar, let us know.


Question to all: A Tesla car runs on Batteries. Most are parked all day in the hot sun with no cover at worksites.

Why not integrate solar panels.........built into roof and or trunk? Telsa bought solar city, correct? Every time I get in a car and it is 140DEG inside parked out in PHX AZ, I wonder. I really wonder. Even a trickle-charge is free?

Most schools have solar panels which staff and students old enough to drive park under:

Vote which created the solar panels in school parking lots - Google Search


Your linking to pictures made by crayons?



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When you can run your car on solar, let us know.


Question to all: A Tesla car runs on Batteries. Most are parked all day in the hot sun with no cover at worksites.

Why not integrate solar panels.........built into roof and or trunk? Telsa bought solar city, correct? Every time I get in a car and it is 140DEG inside parked out in PHX AZ, I wonder. I really wonder. Even a trickle-charge is free?

Most schools have solar panels which staff and students old enough to drive park under:

Vote which created the solar panels in school parking lots - Google Search


Your linking to pictures made by crayons?



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Does this look like a crayon to you?

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When you can run your car on solar, let us know.


Question to all: A Tesla car runs on Batteries. Most are parked all day in the hot sun with no cover at worksites.

Why not integrate solar panels.........built into roof and or trunk? Telsa bought solar city, correct? Every time I get in a car and it is 140DEG inside parked out in PHX AZ, I wonder. I really wonder. Even a trickle-charge is free?

Most schools have solar panels which staff and students old enough to drive park under:

Vote which created the solar panels in school parking lots - Google Search


Your linking to pictures made by crayons?



.

Does this look like a crayon to you?

View attachment 134647



It's an"artist rendering " do you know what that means?



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Keystone XL pipeline would only create 35 permanent jobs

And Obama's Green and Renewable fiasco:

US solar power employs more people than oil, coal and gas combined

and,

U.S. Clean Energy Jobs Surpass Fossil Fuel Employment

Solar energy in the US employs more people than traditional coal, gas and oil combined, a report has found, in a revelation that could undermine Donald Trump’s argument that green energy isn’t good for the economy.

The latest report from the US Department of Energy (DOE) reveals solar energy accounts for the largest proportion of employers in the Electric Power Generation sector, with wind energy the third largest, while the coal industries have declined in the past 10 years.

Solar energy employed 374,000 people over the year 2015-2016, making up 43 per cent of the sector’s workforce, while the traditional fossil fuels combined employed 187,117, making up just 22 per cent of the workforce, according to the report.

What's wrong with construction jobs?

Also even if the pipeline itself doesn't add a lot of jobs, it's still jobs.

Most of that pipeline is already completed. Can you name one report where those jobs had any noticeable effect on employment? What makes you think the last part will? We could add a few jobs by tearing down all our bridges, but that probably isn't a good enough reason to do it.
Most is completed just 4 months after Trump approved construction?

Is there anything Trump can't do?
Don't be an idiot, The southern half was completed a couple of years ago. Most of the northern half was completed shortly after.
 

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