The last stand for Freedom

[pismoe]

If the Constitution has no mention of women or men in it, but it refers to "we the people, please explain why the female one-half of "we the people" were denied the right to vote until 1920 and the part of "we the people" who are not white had to fight to exercise their right to vote up through the 1960s.

Should women and non-whites arm ourselves to ensure that our freedom is secure? You supposedly are a woman, race unknown, you tell me. Is personally arming ourselves, women, non-whites, LGBTs, Muslims, Jews, the method by which we all protect our freedom? Must we stand armed around our houses of worship, medical clinics, bars and restaurants? Is this the kind of society you want to live in?

------------------------------------------------ sure , go ahead , arm up your 'Fifth Column' of deviants and foreign invaders . It only makes sense as Americans should never accept you deviants Lysis !!

So what is your idea of "fifth column" deviants and foreign invaders"? I thought that every American has the right to arm himself/herself against tyranny. This is what I keep reading on USMB. "Americans should never accept you deviants?" I am an American.. Where in the hell did you come from? Are you an American? All I asked is whether it is right that all Americans arm themselves and defend their communities.

Should we all acquire the means necessary to be "locked and loaded" to protect our communities when they are worshiping, receiving medical care and advice, socializing? We do have the right to defend our communities against terrorism.

Expansive gun ownership is for white people only, especially when the cops show up.

--------------------------------- just go out and buy some guns Occupied .

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

--------------------------------- SO WHAT , and even if you were correct , whats wrong with using Private Money and buying and owning and storing and shooting MORE Guns Occupied ?? [ its a FREE COUNTRY isn't it Occupied ??]

 

[pismoe]

If the Constitution has no mention of women or men in it, but it refers to "we the people, please explain why the female one-half of "we the people" were denied the right to vote until 1920 and the part of "we the people" who are not white had to fight to exercise their right to vote up through the 1960s.

Should women and non-whites arm ourselves to ensure that our freedom is secure? You supposedly are a woman, race unknown, you tell me. Is personally arming ourselves, women, non-whites, LGBTs, Muslims, Jews, the method by which we all protect our freedom? Must we stand armed around our houses of worship, medical clinics, bars and restaurants? Is this the kind of society you want to live in?

------------------------------------------------ sure , go ahead , arm up your 'Fifth Column' of deviants and foreign invaders . It only makes sense as Americans should never accept you deviants Lysis !!

So what is your idea of "fifth column" deviants and foreign invaders"? I thought that every American has the right to arm himself/herself against tyranny. This is what I keep reading on USMB. "Americans should never accept you deviants?" I am an American.. Where in the hell did you come from? Are you an American? All I asked is whether it is right that all Americans arm themselves and defend their communities.

Should we all acquire the means necessary to be "locked and loaded" to protect our communities when they are worshiping, receiving medical care and advice, socializing? We do have the right to defend our communities against terrorism.

Expansive gun ownership is for white people only, especially when the cops show up.

--------------------------------- just go out and buy some guns Occupied .

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

---------------------------------- sounds like you are a NAIVE Person Occupied . But whats the problem with Americans buying more Guns with Private Money as it is good for Gun Companies which are Private Companies that employ Americans Occupied ??

 

[occupied]

------------------------------------------------ sure , go ahead , arm up your 'Fifth Column' of deviants and foreign invaders . It only makes sense as Americans should never accept you deviants Lysis !!

So what is your idea of "fifth column" deviants and foreign invaders"? I thought that every American has the right to arm himself/herself against tyranny. This is what I keep reading on USMB. "Americans should never accept you deviants?" I am an American.. Where in the hell did you come from? Are you an American? All I asked is whether it is right that all Americans arm themselves and defend their communities.

Should we all acquire the means necessary to be "locked and loaded" to protect our communities when they are worshiping, receiving medical care and advice, socializing? We do have the right to defend our communities against terrorism.

Expansive gun ownership is for white people only, especially when the cops show up.

--------------------------------- just go out and buy some guns Occupied .

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

--------------------------------- SO WHAT , and even if you were correct , whats wrong with using Private Money and buying and owning and storing and shooting MORE Guns Occupied ?? [ its a FREE COUNTRY isn't it Occupied ??]

My point is that I do not live in fear because fear makes you stupid.

 

[pismoe]

So what is your idea of "fifth column" deviants and foreign invaders"? I thought that every American has the right to arm himself/herself against tyranny. This is what I keep reading on USMB. "Americans should never accept you deviants?" I am an American.. Where in the hell did you come from? Are you an American? All I asked is whether it is right that all Americans arm themselves and defend their communities.

Should we all acquire the means necessary to be "locked and loaded" to protect our communities when they are worshiping, receiving medical care and advice, socializing? We do have the right to defend our communities against terrorism.

Expansive gun ownership is for white people only, especially when the cops show up.

--------------------------------- just go out and buy some guns Occupied .

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

--------------------------------- SO WHAT , and even if you were correct , whats wrong with using Private Money and buying and owning and storing and shooting MORE Guns Occupied ?? [ its a FREE COUNTRY isn't it Occupied ??]

My point is that I do not live in fear because fear makes you stupid.

------------------------------------ your OPINION and So What in this supposed to be FREE Country Occupied !!

 

[OldLady]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .

I think you are a little confused. We aren't free because of guns. We live in a society with metal detectors, key cards, CCTV, security checkpoints, all because of your Gun Fetish... the rest of us didn't sign up for this, but we're stuck with it.

Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.

again, you are a bit confused. Venezuela VOTED for Socialism and has kept it despite punishing economic sanctions, and two attempted coups by the US.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either

Um, yeah, he did. He spelled it all out in Mein Kampf... which was the best selling book in Germany after the Bible.

You seem to be a moron key cards cctv locks keys metal dectors have nothing to do with freedom .security and safety yes but freedom no.
A unarmed man can shake his fist and cry a armed man can affect change and thats what the second amendment is about.

As for Venezuela it was a very well to do nation now its a socialist paradise and all its citizens can do is shake thier boobs and peckers at the goverment no guns no medical supplys no vote no food .
Your either a moron or a socialist probally both

a armed man can affect change
What country are you from, Aponi? In this country, we consider armed violence to achieve our political ends as terrorism, and if the perpetrator doesn't kill himself in the process we throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

Only once has this country risen in armed revolt, and they lost.

You're in the wrong place for a dream such as yours.

 

[occupied]

Expansive gun ownership is for white people only, especially when the cops show up.

--------------------------------- just go out and buy some guns Occupied .

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

--------------------------------- SO WHAT , and even if you were correct , whats wrong with using Private Money and buying and owning and storing and shooting MORE Guns Occupied ?? [ its a FREE COUNTRY isn't it Occupied ??]

My point is that I do not live in fear because fear makes you stupid.

------------------------------------ your OPINION and So What in this supposed to be FREE Country Occupied !!

It is a free country where I can correctly claim that the gun lobby is taking advantage of your fear in the exact same way that televangelists scare the elderly into sending them money.

 

[pismoe]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .
Our own goverment.
Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.
Which by the way morons like cortez omar sanders talib and others support . the peoplehave no money due to inflation the goverments there has stolen thier wealth and people are eating thier pets and leaving the nation.
This is our future if democrats and socialist have thier way.
O yes they deny it but history tell us differnt often.


You see semocrats who want to censorship free speech control guns control your health care your money what you eat etc dont be fooled how it will work out in the end.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either or stalin or mao or Madura in Venezuela or castro . They all lied and fools listened to them untill it was to late then they were screwed.

There is no risk to the 2nd amendment but there is to other rights that have been corrupted by the illegal wars in the US. Yet you people say not a damn word about the rest of our rights being taken away.

--------------------------------------- what RIGHTS would those be though I am aware of attacks by 'dems' and some 'repubs' on both the First and Second Amendments so we might agree on some things Moonglow .

Right now they violate the right to due process on asset forfeiture.

----------------------------------- and that's probably covered by the '4th' Amendment eh Moonglow ?? If so , then its like I said . I only care about the Original 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights Moonglow .

 

[Moonglow]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .
Our own goverment.
Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.
Which by the way morons like cortez omar sanders talib and others support . the peoplehave no money due to inflation the goverments there has stolen thier wealth and people are eating thier pets and leaving the nation.
This is our future if democrats and socialist have thier way.
O yes they deny it but history tell us differnt often.


You see semocrats who want to censorship free speech control guns control your health care your money what you eat etc dont be fooled how it will work out in the end.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either or stalin or mao or Madura in Venezuela or castro . They all lied and fools listened to them untill it was to late then they were screwed.

There is no risk to the 2nd amendment but there is to other rights that have been corrupted by the illegal wars in the US. Yet you people say not a damn word about the rest of our rights being taken away.

--------------------------------------- what RIGHTS would those be though I am aware of attacks by 'dems' and some 'repubs' on both the First and Second Amendments so we might agree on some things Moonglow .

Right now they violate the right to due process on asset forfeiture.

----------------------------------- and that's probably covered by the '4th' Amendment eh Moonglow ?? If so , then its like I said . I only care about the Original 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights Moonglow .

The 4th is in the original ten. Yet RICCO laws have taken away the protection of the 4th and the LEO's are not respecting the 4th.

 

[pismoe]

--------------------------------- just go out and buy some guns Occupied .

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

--------------------------------- SO WHAT , and even if you were correct , whats wrong with using Private Money and buying and owning and storing and shooting MORE Guns Occupied ?? [ its a FREE COUNTRY isn't it Occupied ??]

My point is that I do not live in fear because fear makes you stupid.

------------------------------------ your OPINION and So What in this supposed to be FREE Country Occupied !!

It is a free country where I can correctly claim that the gun lobby is taking advantage of your fear in the exact same way that televangelists scare the elderly into sending them money.

---------------------------------- sure , go ahead , I see you as a Mrs Cravits type as I say , mind your own business !! Though , this being a 'message board' I do like responding to your naïve proclamations and thinking Occupied .

 

[pismoe]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .
Our own goverment.
Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.
Which by the way morons like cortez omar sanders talib and others support . the peoplehave no money due to inflation the goverments there has stolen thier wealth and people are eating thier pets and leaving the nation.
This is our future if democrats and socialist have thier way.
O yes they deny it but history tell us differnt often.


You see semocrats who want to censorship free speech control guns control your health care your money what you eat etc dont be fooled how it will work out in the end.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either or stalin or mao or Madura in Venezuela or castro . They all lied and fools listened to them untill it was to late then they were screwed.

There is no risk to the 2nd amendment but there is to other rights that have been corrupted by the illegal wars in the US. Yet you people say not a damn word about the rest of our rights being taken away.

--------------------------------------- what RIGHTS would those be though I am aware of attacks by 'dems' and some 'repubs' on both the First and Second Amendments so we might agree on some things Moonglow .

Right now they violate the right to due process on asset forfeiture.

----------------------------------- and that's probably covered by the '4th' Amendment eh Moonglow ?? If so , then its like I said . I only care about the Original 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights Moonglow .

The 4th is in the original ten. Yet RICCO laws have taken away the protection of the 4th and the LEO's are not respecting the 4th.

---------------------------------------------------- of course , the 4th is one of the Original 10 that I respect and care about . So we agree Moonglow .

 

[occupied]

I have guns and somehow I am not the least bit afraid anyone is going to take them away because I know the gun lobby is full of shit. All those scare tactics you so easily fall for are just a marketing ploy to keep you buying guns and ammo.

--------------------------------- SO WHAT , and even if you were correct , whats wrong with using Private Money and buying and owning and storing and shooting MORE Guns Occupied ?? [ its a FREE COUNTRY isn't it Occupied ??]

My point is that I do not live in fear because fear makes you stupid.

------------------------------------ your OPINION and So What in this supposed to be FREE Country Occupied !!

It is a free country where I can correctly claim that the gun lobby is taking advantage of your fear in the exact same way that televangelists scare the elderly into sending them money.

---------------------------------- sure , go ahead , I see you as a Mrs Cravits type as I say , mind your own business !! Though , this being a 'message board' I do like responding to your naïve proclamations and thinking Occupied .

Do you send money to televangelists as well? You seem the type. Probably got Joel on in the background telling you how cold hard cash will keep you out of Hell.

 

[pismoe]

oh No , 'Mrs. Gladys Kravits' realizes the FREE Americans are buying GUNS with their own Private Money . ------------------- --- --- [chuckle]

 

[Timmy]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .
Our own goverment.
Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.
Which by the way morons like cortez omar sanders talib and others support . the peoplehave no money due to inflation the goverments there has stolen thier wealth and people are eating thier pets and leaving the nation.
This is our future if democrats and socialist have thier way.
O yes they deny it but history tell us differnt often.


You see semocrats who want to censorship free speech control guns control your health care your money what you eat etc dont be fooled how it will work out in the end.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either or stalin or mao or Madura in Venezuela or castro . They all lied and fools listened to them untill it was to late then they were screwed.

Translation : You need an AR style rifle so you can shoot police and military .

 

[Dragonlady]

I have

The 1% in America have actively stolen the 99%'s wealth over the last generation ,despite the fact that most of us are armed

so, tell me again, how my arsenal makes me 'free' in said regard?

~S~

I have a business and no one has been stealing from me or before I had it.
I do recall some high taxes but that was from elected officals .

Your guns prevent you from the loss to vote if people try to take it.

Our goverment knows America is armed and some fear it some respect it

Guns have done NOTHING to prevent the loss of votes through gerrymandering, "exact match", or the various and sundry ways Republicans have sought to supress the votes of minorities, the poor and the elderly.

As for the government knowing you're armed, big whoop. Just ask the Branch Davidians how being well armed and taking on the US government works out for you. When the 2nd Amendment was passed, a "gun" was a single shot muzzle loader, which was highly inaccurate. Those were the ONLY weapons available so everyone was on a pretty even footing when it came to weaponry. That's not true today.

It should also be noted that the Founding Fathers also didn't envision a country of over 300 million people stretching from one ocean to another. The United States was 13 settlement states along the Atlantic seaboard. The geographical differences, and the needs of various regions are vastly disparate. Cities are not the place for gun ownership, while in the country, and especially for people who own livestock, they're a necessity.

 

[Aponi]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .

I think you are a little confused. We aren't free because of guns. We live in a society with metal detectors, key cards, CCTV, security checkpoints, all because of your Gun Fetish... the rest of us didn't sign up for this, but we're stuck with it.

Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.

again, you are a bit confused. Venezuela VOTED for Socialism and has kept it despite punishing economic sanctions, and two attempted coups by the US.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either

Um, yeah, he did. He spelled it all out in Mein Kampf... which was the best selling book in Germany after the Bible.

You seem to be a moron key cards cctv locks keys metal dectors have nothing to do with freedom .security and safety yes but freedom no.
A unarmed man can shake his fist and cry a armed man can affect change and thats what the second amendment is about.

As for Venezuela it was a very well to do nation now its a socialist paradise and all its citizens can do is shake thier boobs and peckers at the goverment no guns no medical supplys no vote no food .
Your either a moron or a socialist probally both

a armed man can affect change
What country are you from, Aponi? In this country, we consider armed violence to achieve our political ends as terrorism, and if the perpetrator doesn't kill himself in the process we throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

Only once has this country risen in armed revolt, and they lost.

You're in the wrong place for a dream such as yours.

A armed man cant affect change you say you dumb bitch.
Perhaps you may have heard of the revolutionary war

 

[OldLady]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .

I think you are a little confused. We aren't free because of guns. We live in a society with metal detectors, key cards, CCTV, security checkpoints, all because of your Gun Fetish... the rest of us didn't sign up for this, but we're stuck with it.

Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.

again, you are a bit confused. Venezuela VOTED for Socialism and has kept it despite punishing economic sanctions, and two attempted coups by the US.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either

Um, yeah, he did. He spelled it all out in Mein Kampf... which was the best selling book in Germany after the Bible.

You seem to be a moron key cards cctv locks keys metal dectors have nothing to do with freedom .security and safety yes but freedom no.
A unarmed man can shake his fist and cry a armed man can affect change and thats what the second amendment is about.

As for Venezuela it was a very well to do nation now its a socialist paradise and all its citizens can do is shake thier boobs and peckers at the goverment no guns no medical supplys no vote no food .
Your either a moron or a socialist probally both

a armed man can affect change
What country are you from, Aponi? In this country, we consider armed violence to achieve our political ends as terrorism, and if the perpetrator doesn't kill himself in the process we throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

Only once has this country risen in armed revolt, and they lost.

You're in the wrong place for a dream such as yours.

A armed man cant affect change you say you dumb bitch.
Perhaps you may have heard of the revolutionary war

Perhaps you may have heard that as soon as we won said war, we immediately put our heads together and came up with a BETTER WAY called the Constitution of the United States of America. So now we don't need to shoot the politicians we don't like.

As a helpful tip for a foreign language speaker, we use the article "an" instead of "a" before words that begin with a vowel sound. An armed man. Your welcome.

 

[OldLady]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .

I think you are a little confused. We aren't free because of guns. We live in a society with metal detectors, key cards, CCTV, security checkpoints, all because of your Gun Fetish... the rest of us didn't sign up for this, but we're stuck with it.

Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.

again, you are a bit confused. Venezuela VOTED for Socialism and has kept it despite punishing economic sanctions, and two attempted coups by the US.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either

Um, yeah, he did. He spelled it all out in Mein Kampf... which was the best selling book in Germany after the Bible.

You seem to be a moron key cards cctv locks keys metal dectors have nothing to do with freedom .security and safety yes but freedom no.
A unarmed man can shake his fist and cry a armed man can affect change and thats what the second amendment is about.

As for Venezuela it was a very well to do nation now its a socialist paradise and all its citizens can do is shake thier boobs and peckers at the goverment no guns no medical supplys no vote no food .
Your either a moron or a socialist probally both

a armed man can affect change
What country are you from, Aponi? In this country, we consider armed violence to achieve our political ends as terrorism, and if the perpetrator doesn't kill himself in the process we throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

Only once has this country risen in armed revolt, and they lost.

You're in the wrong place for a dream such as yours.

A armed man cant affect change you say you dumb bitch.
Perhaps you may have heard of the revolutionary war

Ladies don't call other ladies dumb bitches.

 

[pismoe]

The last stand for freedom is ownership of guns.
When our forefathers added the 2ed amendment to the constitution it wasnt about self defense so much or hunting or target shooting .
It was about the people being able to stand up and arm themselfs to fight aginst a tyrannical goverment .

I think you are a little confused. We aren't free because of guns. We live in a society with metal detectors, key cards, CCTV, security checkpoints, all because of your Gun Fetish... the rest of us didn't sign up for this, but we're stuck with it.

Look at Venezuela .
In 2012 they confiscated guns now just a few years later thier socialist goverment has stolen the wealth and people are throwing sticks and rocks trying to take control of thier goverment.

again, you are a bit confused. Venezuela VOTED for Socialism and has kept it despite punishing economic sanctions, and two attempted coups by the US.

Hiltler didnt tell people what he had planned either

Um, yeah, he did. He spelled it all out in Mein Kampf... which was the best selling book in Germany after the Bible.

You seem to be a moron key cards cctv locks keys metal dectors have nothing to do with freedom .security and safety yes but freedom no.
A unarmed man can shake his fist and cry a armed man can affect change and thats what the second amendment is about.

As for Venezuela it was a very well to do nation now its a socialist paradise and all its citizens can do is shake thier boobs and peckers at the goverment no guns no medical supplys no vote no food .
Your either a moron or a socialist probally both

a armed man can affect change
What country are you from, Aponi? In this country, we consider armed violence to achieve our political ends as terrorism, and if the perpetrator doesn't kill himself in the process we throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

Only once has this country risen in armed revolt, and they lost.

You're in the wrong place for a dream such as yours.

A armed man cant affect change you say you dumb bitch.
Perhaps you may have heard of the revolutionary war

--------------------- good post , we kicked 'english ' brit' azz' and the'brit wankers' of the time were the worlds SuperPower Aponi . [tell your kids , all American kids about the Revolutionary War]

 

[beagle9]

Eric swalwell a democrat running for president is crying that the constitution has no mention of women in it . moron its has no mention of men either . but it has the words we the people and no discrimination based on color or sex 8n the amendments.
Hes a moron like most democrats who hate America and want to pervert it and twist its laws

If the Constitution has no mention of women or men in it, but it refers to "we the people, please explain why the female one-half of "we the people" were denied the right to vote until 1920 and the part of "we the people" who are not white had to fight to exercise their right to vote up through the 1960s.

Should women and non-whites arm ourselves to ensure that our freedom is secure? You supposedly are a woman, race unknown, you tell me. Is personally arming ourselves, women, non-whites, LGBTs, Muslims, Jews, the method by which we all protect our freedom? Must we stand armed around our houses of worship, medical clinics, bars and restaurants? Is this the kind of society you want to live in?

Why would anyone feel that they would have to stand outside while armed in America now ?? It ain't the American's that various groups should be fearing, but instead they should be fearing their ownselves for the beliefs that they hold in which are in alot of ways ANTI-AMERICAN, and it is undoubtedly tearing them apart inside and out, and it is making them jump at their own shadows while blaming others for it.

American's who don't hold other's various belief's just want to be left alone, but somehow that is impossible to do anymore or is it ??

So yes you might be right in some sense, that in a bid to protect the American culture, and the American way of life in which has served the citizens well in uniting cultures for decades under the flag (in which most have been serving for years now), has definitely got the citizens armed to the teeth in order to DEFEND themselves and their families against tyrannical forces seeking to destroy their way of life (if they feel that they have to protect their way of life or culture). Yes as you say It works for everyone the same, but is it the old gaurd that is the problem or is it the new gaurd causing the problems ?? I'm talking about the citizens here, and not government.

Redirecting hunting weapons or citizens seeking to arm themselves with the latest weaponry for defense purposes, instead of using them for sport and hunting purposes (if this is the case or what is going on), uhh is now a dammed shame in this country if that is what it has been pushed towards, and hopefully it will be resolved by people getting the hell out of each others business again in life, instead of it going the other way.

As for the government, it should be the first to get out of the business of attempting to socially engineer something (the same as Hitler attempted to do), and it needs to get back to governing all citizens equally be it done all decent and in order, instead of being swayed by groups to abuse other groups in this country against their will, and this by forces that might take control within the government against the majority of the peoples will. Not talking about a majority that lay in bigger states within the union, who are attempting to control something by their majority within a few states in which is wrong, but I'm talking instead about all states being represented across the entire spectrum or board within these United States which is right.

Like I say all the time though, the government is only representative of those whom control it these days, and not representative of the citizens across the board when things do go bad in America, otherwise in such a situation where millions of citizens are avoided without the use of the electorial college.

Thank God for the electorial college is all American's can say at this point.

The economy for all, is a great measure of these things. The economy is great and getting better, and that's great.

 

[beagle9]

I have

The 1% in America have actively stolen the 99%'s wealth over the last generation ,despite the fact that most of us are armed

so, tell me again, how my arsenal makes me 'free' in said regard?

~S~

I have a business and no one has been stealing from me or before I had it.
I do recall some high taxes but that was from elected officals .

Your guns prevent you from the loss to vote if people try to take it.

Our goverment knows America is armed and some fear it some respect it

Guns have done NOTHING to prevent the loss of votes through gerrymandering, "exact match", or the various and sundry ways Republicans have sought to supress the votes of minorities, the poor and the elderly.

As for the government knowing you're armed, big whoop. Just ask the Branch Davidians how being well armed and taking on the US government works out for you. When the 2nd Amendment was passed, a "gun" was a single shot muzzle loader, which was highly inaccurate. Those were the ONLY weapons available so everyone was on a pretty even footing when it came to weaponry. That's not true today.

It should also be noted that the Founding Fathers also didn't envision a country of over 300 million people stretching from one ocean to another. The United States was 13 settlement states along the Atlantic seaboard. The geographical differences, and the needs of various regions are vastly disparate. Cities are not the place for gun ownership, while in the country, and especially for people who own livestock, they're a necessity.

This is why it is so important to keep voting in administration's that are not hostile to the American citizens at large, and voting in administration's that don't try to appease groups who attempt to swell their numbers up like a non-poisonous critter (hissing and blowing itself up), in a bid to fool the government into believing that it is very poisonous in order for it to be left alone, but all the while it goes about destroying others along it's path with impunity, and worse the government on it's side.

This was the very definition of the Obama administration.