The list of people Nick Sandmann's lawyer is suing

[bripat9643]

from what i understand the famous Lawyer is taking the case with no cost to the Sandman family DragonLady . Think thats its said that the Lawyer is taking the case on a Contingency basis and will get paid if he wins for the Sandmans DragonLady .

------------------------------------------------------- and i might be mistaken about the CONTINGENCY BASIS DragonLady . --- Sandmann family hires lawyer specializing in libel, slander --- looks like it may be a straight Hire of L.LIN. WOOD a famous lawyer specializing in LIBEL and Slander cases since about 1996 . Lawyer Wood is supposed to be a good lawyer . As regards payment for the Lawyer , the Sandman Parents may have lots of money to pay Lawyers DragonLady .

It's amazing how fast lawyers go through "lots of money", when litigation is involved. It would take an army of junior lawyers and paralegals to prepare that many Statements of Claim, and Motions, file them, have them served, prepare affidavits of service, and file them with the court, and make sure all deadlines for filing and responding to motions are met.

Then there's billing software. There's a clock attacked to your lawyer's phone. When you call, he enters your file number into the phone before he picks up and you will be billed at your lawyer's going rate from the second he picks up until the moment you hang up. Even if the conversation devolves into what are your plans for the weekend, you will be billed at the rate of $600+ per hour for that phone call. A 10 minute phone call costs you $100 at the rate of $600 per hour. The same things happen when you call the the clerks and the juniors, but their billing rates are lower. Imagine a one hour co-ordinating meeting between the clerks, juniors and senior lawyers working this file. Even an half hour meeting would be billed out at $2000 plus depending on the size of the team.

Clerks are billed out at $150 per hour, Juniors at $300.00 The litigation lawyer at the small town law firm I worked at just before I retired for good, was charging $2500 for a court appearance. He's not famous nor does he have a big reputation. Each Statement of Claim has to be specific, about what you are claiming the other party did to harm you, so you can't just cut and past the information from one to another. A simple uncontested divorce, can easily run to $10,000 with meetings to negotiate settlements, dealing with child custody matters, and changing title to stocks bonds and property. A fully contested knock down drag out can run to $500,000 or more, depending on how angry and vindictive you want to be. And that's one lawsuit. There threatening to sue more than 50 individuals and corporations. At $100,000 per which is very a conservative cost for one lawsuit, that's $5,000,000.

And the whole process is about two years off your life. Is this how you want your son to spend his teenage years, being dragged from court house to court house for depositions, testimony and hearings? Really?

There is no way this family comes off looking good. They're parading this boy on news shows and all it shows is how painfully young he is, and how the teachers and the chaperones should never have let children this young get involved in any of this. They should have told them to ignore the crazy black guys yelling at them and told the driver to pick them up somewhere else.

Litigation is the failure of all other processes. What other processes have these people tried, and what are they lookiing for in terms of redress, and last but not least why? What has happened to this point is a story those kids can dine out on for years to come. If it doesn't end now, if they get used by the right to "make a point", they may well destroy their son's childhood and his future. I'm not joking.

The parents and the law firm have a contingency fee arrangement. Go look that up before you continue to spout your idiocies.

Then there will be no lawsuits. No legal firm can afford to run 50 big money lawsuits for one client, on contingency. Look for at the costs per law suit again. Especially one where they have no case.

Once again, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the law.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

from what i understand the famous Lawyer is taking the case with no cost to the Sandman family DragonLady . Think thats its said that the Lawyer is taking the case on a Contingency basis and will get paid if he wins for the Sandmans DragonLady .

------------------------------------------------------- and i might be mistaken about the CONTINGENCY BASIS DragonLady . --- Sandmann family hires lawyer specializing in libel, slander --- looks like it may be a straight Hire of L.LIN. WOOD a famous lawyer specializing in LIBEL and Slander cases since about 1996 . Lawyer Wood is supposed to be a good lawyer . As regards payment for the Lawyer , the Sandman Parents may have lots of money to pay Lawyers DragonLady .

It's amazing how fast lawyers go through "lots of money", when litigation is involved. It would take an army of junior lawyers and paralegals to prepare that many Statements of Claim, and Motions, file them, have them served, prepare affidavits of service, and file them with the court, and make sure all deadlines for filing and responding to motions are met.

Then there's billing software. There's a clock attacked to your lawyer's phone. When you call, he enters your file number into the phone before he picks up and you will be billed at your lawyer's going rate from the second he picks up until the moment you hang up. Even if the conversation devolves into what are your plans for the weekend, you will be billed at the rate of $600+ per hour for that phone call. A 10 minute phone call costs you $100 at the rate of $600 per hour. The same things happen when you call the the clerks and the juniors, but their billing rates are lower. Imagine a one hour co-ordinating meeting between the clerks, juniors and senior lawyers working this file. Even an half hour meeting would be billed out at $2000 plus depending on the size of the team.

Clerks are billed out at $150 per hour, Juniors at $300.00 The litigation lawyer at the small town law firm I worked at just before I retired for good, was charging $2500 for a court appearance. He's not famous nor does he have a big reputation. Each Statement of Claim has to be specific, about what you are claiming the other party did to harm you, so you can't just cut and past the information from one to another. A simple uncontested divorce, can easily run to $10,000 with meetings to negotiate settlements, dealing with child custody matters, and changing title to stocks bonds and property. A fully contested knock down drag out can run to $500,000 or more, depending on how angry and vindictive you want to be. And that's one lawsuit. There threatening to sue more than 50 individuals and corporations. At $100,000 per which is very a conservative cost for one lawsuit, that's $5,000,000.

And the whole process is about two years off your life. Is this how you want your son to spend his teenage years, being dragged from court house to court house for depositions, testimony and hearings? Really?

There is no way this family comes off looking good. They're parading this boy on news shows and all it shows is how painfully young he is, and how the teachers and the chaperones should never have let children this young get involved in any of this. They should have told them to ignore the crazy black guys yelling at them and told the driver to pick them up somewhere else.

Litigation is the failure of all other processes. What other processes have these people tried, and what are they lookiing for in terms of redress, and last but not least why? What has happened to this point is a story those kids can dine out on for years to come. If it doesn't end now, if they get used by the right to "make a point", they may well destroy their son's childhood and his future. I'm not joking.

The parents and the law firm have a contingency fee arrangement. Go look that up before you continue to spout your idiocies.

Then there will be no lawsuits. No legal firm can afford to run 50 big money lawsuits for one client, on contingency. Look for at the costs per law suit again. Especially one where they have no case.

If they didn't have a case, they wouldn't be wasting their time suing:

If you meet the requirements for a civil action, you can sue someone for defamation, whether libel or slander, if they have written or said something bad about you. However, you must be able to prove the necessary elements of a defamation suit if you wish to collect damages.

Understanding Defamation, Libel, and Slander

Defamation can take two forms, which are generally referred to as libel and slander. Libel is defined as a defamation of a person, group, organization, product, government, or country that was made in written or printed words or in pictures. Slander is the same thing, except the defamatory statement was made in the form of spoken words, sounds, sign language, or gestures.

Reasons for a Defamation Lawsuit

You may be able to sue for defamation if:

False statements were made as if they were true.
The defamation caused damages.

In cases of defamation “per se,” damage does not have to be proven. Defamation per say may occur when the party being sued states that the defamation victim:

Can I Sue Someone for Defamation if They Write or Say Something Bad About Me?

 

[pismoe]

Then maybe they should teach their child some manners and respect because he has none.

Correct. How dare those parents teach him to say nothing and not run away from nut cases like this Indian and Fake Israelites. He should have known better than to just stand there.

----------------------------------------- kid is a brave kid , no cowering for him and thats what the lying 'indian' wanted but he didn't get what he wanted .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then maybe they should teach their child some manners and respect because he has none.

Correct. How dare those parents teach him to say nothing and not run away from nut cases like this Indian and Fake Israelites. He should have known better than to just stand there.

----------------------------------------- kid is a brave kid , no cowering for him and thats what the lying 'indian' wanted but he didn't get what he wanted .

It's amazing how these leftists always try to turn good people into bad. The bad people? They will defend them to the end of time. Now you can kill a baby after it's born, and those are the leftists heroes.

 

[Polishprince]

Then maybe they should teach their child some manners and respect because he has none.

Correct. How dare those parents teach him to say nothing and not run away from nut cases like this Indian and Fake Israelites. He should have known better than to just stand there.

The kid was ad-libbing here. They don't have Fake Veteran Indians or Black Congressional Israelites in Covington, so it was a new experience. In fact, the initial reports were that the black losers that were pestering the children were "Black Muslims". The chaperones were totally unfamiliar with the Black Congressional Israelite Cult.

The fact that no one was arrested,and no one was injured, shows me that the kids did right.

Liberals should actually be saluting these young'uns for getting involved in the political process and making the trip to DC for the big event in favor of Life.

Don't we knead the next generation to get involved in civic events like this?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then maybe they should teach their child some manners and respect because he has none.

Correct. How dare those parents teach him to say nothing and not run away from nut cases like this Indian and Fake Israelites. He should have known better than to just stand there.

The kid was ad-libbing here. They don't have Fake Veteran Indians or Black Congressional Israelites in Covington, so it was a new experience. In fact, the initial reports were that the black losers that were pestering the children were "Black Muslims". The chaperones were totally unfamiliar with the Black Congressional Israelite Cult.

The fact that no one was arrested,and no one was injured, shows me that the kids did right.

Liberals should actually be saluting these young'uns for getting involved in the political process and making the trip to DC for the big event in favor of Life.

Don't we knead the next generation to get involved in civic events like this?

I think the better question is: will these kids grow up and be afraid of getting involved?

Even though it's hard to go back and think like a kid, I had to do it in this instance. If I were Sandmann, I would have been rude, insulting, and maybe even violent. You have this old man running up to you and beating his homemade drum in your face, the only thing you can do is laugh. It's funny at that age. Then you have these fake Jews calling you names, I could only imagine what we would have done as kids.

Knowing how I was as a teen, I probably would have been dancing in front of him and repeatedly pounding my open hand against my mouth. I probably would have thought of a rock song to that tempo and started singing it. I don't know how this kid stopped himself from doing something similar.

 

[martybegan]

The loser twerp fuckwit went to DC with his MAGA hat with his loser MAGA friends looking for trouble.

He found it, and now he has gone crying to mommy and daddy to save him from the big bad mean people.

What a pussy.

Sue me.

your TDS is terminal.

How is going to a large gathering with a school group and being accosted heading back for your bus "looking for trouble"?

Tell the little whiny snowflake's lawyer I said he was looking for trouble and to sue me.

oooh big internet tough guy you are.

 

[martybegan]

It's a long list of mostly wealthy people and companies. Sandmann is going to be a rich boy when this is all over:

Lawyers for Catholic Student Nick Sandmann Prepare to Sue for Libel

According to the Enquirer, the long list of people and outlets targeted includes:

• The Washington Post
• The New York Times
• Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN)
• The Guardian
• National Public Radio
• TMZ
• Atlantic Media Inc.
• Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.
• Diocese of Covington
• Diocese of Lexington
• Archdiocese of Louisville
• Diocese of Baltimore
• Ana Cabrera
• Sara Sidner
• Erin Burnett
• S.E. Cupp
• Elliot C. McLaughlin
• Amanda Watts
• Emanuella Grinberg
• Michelle Boorstein
• Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
• Antonio Olivo
• Joe Heim
• Michael E. Miller
• Eli Rosenberg
• Isaac Stanley-Becker
• Kristine Phillips
• Sarah Mervosh
• Emily S. Rueb
• Maggie Haberman
• David Brooks
• Shannon Doyne
• Kurt Eichenwald
• Andrea Mitchell
• Savannah Guthrie
• Joy Reid
• Chuck Todd
• Noah Berlatsky
• Elisha Fieldstadt
• Eun Kyung Kim
• HBO
• Bill Maher
• Warner Media
• Conde Nast
• GQ
• Heavy.com
• The Hill
• The Atlantic
• Bustle.com
• Ilhan Omar
• Elizabeth Warren
• Kathy Griffin
• Alyssa Milano
• Jim Carrey

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

In the case of the Guardian he is probably suing in British Court, and they don't have the amendment there.

As for over here, the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from malicious slander or libel, the hard part is proving malicious intent.

As I have already pointed out, he doesn't need to. He's not a public figure. Proving malicious intent is only required if you are a public figure.

We will see. It is very very hard to prove libel or slander regardless.

 

[Dragonlady]

from what i understand the famous Lawyer is taking the case with no cost to the Sandman family DragonLady . Think thats its said that the Lawyer is taking the case on a Contingency basis and will get paid if he wins for the Sandmans DragonLady .

------------------------------------------------------- and i might be mistaken about the CONTINGENCY BASIS DragonLady . --- Sandmann family hires lawyer specializing in libel, slander --- looks like it may be a straight Hire of L.LIN. WOOD a famous lawyer specializing in LIBEL and Slander cases since about 1996 . Lawyer Wood is supposed to be a good lawyer . As regards payment for the Lawyer , the Sandman Parents may have lots of money to pay Lawyers DragonLady .

It's amazing how fast lawyers go through "lots of money", when litigation is involved. It would take an army of junior lawyers and paralegals to prepare that many Statements of Claim, and Motions, file them, have them served, prepare affidavits of service, and file them with the court, and make sure all deadlines for filing and responding to motions are met.

Then there's billing software. There's a clock attacked to your lawyer's phone. When you call, he enters your file number into the phone before he picks up and you will be billed at your lawyer's going rate from the second he picks up until the moment you hang up. Even if the conversation devolves into what are your plans for the weekend, you will be billed at the rate of $600+ per hour for that phone call. A 10 minute phone call costs you $100 at the rate of $600 per hour. The same things happen when you call the the clerks and the juniors, but their billing rates are lower. Imagine a one hour co-ordinating meeting between the clerks, juniors and senior lawyers working this file. Even an half hour meeting would be billed out at $2000 plus depending on the size of the team.

Clerks are billed out at $150 per hour, Juniors at $300.00 The litigation lawyer at the small town law firm I worked at just before I retired for good, was charging $2500 for a court appearance. He's not famous nor does he have a big reputation. Each Statement of Claim has to be specific, about what you are claiming the other party did to harm you, so you can't just cut and past the information from one to another. A simple uncontested divorce, can easily run to $10,000 with meetings to negotiate settlements, dealing with child custody matters, and changing title to stocks bonds and property. A fully contested knock down drag out can run to $500,000 or more, depending on how angry and vindictive you want to be. And that's one lawsuit. There threatening to sue more than 50 individuals and corporations. At $100,000 per which is very a conservative cost for one lawsuit, that's $5,000,000.

And the whole process is about two years off your life. Is this how you want your son to spend his teenage years, being dragged from court house to court house for depositions, testimony and hearings? Really?

There is no way this family comes off looking good. They're parading this boy on news shows and all it shows is how painfully young he is, and how the teachers and the chaperones should never have let children this young get involved in any of this. They should have told them to ignore the crazy black guys yelling at them and told the driver to pick them up somewhere else.

Litigation is the failure of all other processes. What other processes have these people tried, and what are they lookiing for in terms of redress, and last but not least why? What has happened to this point is a story those kids can dine out on for years to come. If it doesn't end now, if they get used by the right to "make a point", they may well destroy their son's childhood and his future. I'm not joking.

The parents and the law firm have a contingency fee arrangement. Go look that up before you continue to spout your idiocies.

Then there will be no lawsuits. No legal firm can afford to run 50 big money lawsuits for one client, on contingency. Look for at the costs per law suit again. Especially one where they have no case.

Once again, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the law.

You go with that Skippy. I checked into who this guy has worked for in the past, and he worked for people who were actually slandered. He knows this is a loser case, but the father is a fool and a fool and his money are soon parted.

 

[rightwinger]

Kathy Griffin and Jim Carrey

They won't think it's so funny when they lose a million dollar judgement.

The only ones who will lose are his dumb ass arrogant parents.

Your keep talking about these mythical law suits like they’ve already happened and they haven’t. The legal costs of filing would be in the range of a $100,000 and the law firm will want that money up front.

You’re confusing “Chill Letters” with law suits. I can send you a chill letter saying I’m going to sue YOU for slander because you called me a moron. And you’ll laugh and throw it in the garbage.

That these lawyers did and that’s what the recipients of those ridiculous letters will do.

Get back to us when they starting filing Motions.

What this thug's parents have done is shown us all EXACTLY why he's growing up as a thug.

Only black teens like Travon Martin get to be called thugs

White Catholic Boys like Sandmann are “precocious”

 

[bodecea]

from what i understand the famous Lawyer is taking the case with no cost to the Sandman family DragonLady . Think thats its said that the Lawyer is taking the case on a Contingency basis and will get paid if he wins for the Sandmans DragonLady .

------------------------------------------------------- and i might be mistaken about the CONTINGENCY BASIS DragonLady . --- Sandmann family hires lawyer specializing in libel, slander --- looks like it may be a straight Hire of L.LIN. WOOD a famous lawyer specializing in LIBEL and Slander cases since about 1996 . Lawyer Wood is supposed to be a good lawyer . As regards payment for the Lawyer , the Sandman Parents may have lots of money to pay Lawyers DragonLady .

It's amazing how fast lawyers go through "lots of money", when litigation is involved. It would take an army of junior lawyers and paralegals to prepare that many Statements of Claim, and Motions, file them, have them served, prepare affidavits of service, and file them with the court, and make sure all deadlines for filing and responding to motions are met.

Then there's billing software. There's a clock attacked to your lawyer's phone. When you call, he enters your file number into the phone before he picks up and you will be billed at your lawyer's going rate from the second he picks up until the moment you hang up. Even if the conversation devolves into what are your plans for the weekend, you will be billed at the rate of $600+ per hour for that phone call. A 10 minute phone call costs you $100 at the rate of $600 per hour. The same things happen when you call the the clerks and the juniors, but their billing rates are lower. Imagine a one hour co-ordinating meeting between the clerks, juniors and senior lawyers working this file. Even an half hour meeting would be billed out at $2000 plus depending on the size of the team.

Clerks are billed out at $150 per hour, Juniors at $300.00 The litigation lawyer at the small town law firm I worked at just before I retired for good, was charging $2500 for a court appearance. He's not famous nor does he have a big reputation. Each Statement of Claim has to be specific, about what you are claiming the other party did to harm you, so you can't just cut and past the information from one to another. A simple uncontested divorce, can easily run to $10,000 with meetings to negotiate settlements, dealing with child custody matters, and changing title to stocks bonds and property. A fully contested knock down drag out can run to $500,000 or more, depending on how angry and vindictive you want to be. And that's one lawsuit. There threatening to sue more than 50 individuals and corporations. At $100,000 per which is very a conservative cost for one lawsuit, that's $5,000,000.

And the whole process is about two years off your life. Is this how you want your son to spend his teenage years, being dragged from court house to court house for depositions, testimony and hearings? Really?

There is no way this family comes off looking good. They're parading this boy on news shows and all it shows is how painfully young he is, and how the teachers and the chaperones should never have let children this young get involved in any of this. They should have told them to ignore the crazy black guys yelling at them and told the driver to pick them up somewhere else.

Litigation is the failure of all other processes. What other processes have these people tried, and what are they lookiing for in terms of redress, and last but not least why? What has happened to this point is a story those kids can dine out on for years to come. If it doesn't end now, if they get used by the right to "make a point", they may well destroy their son's childhood and his future. I'm not joking.

The parents and the law firm have a contingency fee arrangement. Go look that up before you continue to spout your idiocies.

Then there will be no lawsuits. No legal firm can afford to run 50 big money lawsuits for one client, on contingency. Look for at the costs per law suit again. Especially one where they have no case.

If they didn't have a case, they wouldn't be wasting their time suing:

If you meet the requirements for a civil action, you can sue someone for defamation, whether libel or slander, if they have written or said something bad about you. However, you must be able to prove the necessary elements of a defamation suit if you wish to collect damages.

Understanding Defamation, Libel, and Slander

Defamation can take two forms, which are generally referred to as libel and slander. Libel is defined as a defamation of a person, group, organization, product, government, or country that was made in written or printed words or in pictures. Slander is the same thing, except the defamatory statement was made in the form of spoken words, sounds, sign language, or gestures.

Reasons for a Defamation Lawsuit

You may be able to sue for defamation if:

False statements were made as if they were true.
The defamation caused damages.

In cases of defamation “per se,” damage does not have to be proven. Defamation per say may occur when the party being sued states that the defamation victim:

Can I Sue Someone for Defamation if They Write or Say Something Bad About Me?

"if they didn't have a case, they wouldn't waste their time suing...."

 

[rightwinger]

It's a long list of mostly wealthy people and companies. Sandmann is going to be a rich boy when this is all over:

Lawyers for Catholic Student Nick Sandmann Prepare to Sue for Libel

According to the Enquirer, the long list of people and outlets targeted includes:

• The Washington Post
• The New York Times
• Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN)
• The Guardian
• National Public Radio
• TMZ
• Atlantic Media Inc.
• Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.
• Diocese of Covington
• Diocese of Lexington
• Archdiocese of Louisville
• Diocese of Baltimore
• Ana Cabrera
• Sara Sidner
• Erin Burnett
• S.E. Cupp
• Elliot C. McLaughlin
• Amanda Watts
• Emanuella Grinberg
• Michelle Boorstein
• Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
• Antonio Olivo
• Joe Heim
• Michael E. Miller
• Eli Rosenberg
• Isaac Stanley-Becker
• Kristine Phillips
• Sarah Mervosh
• Emily S. Rueb
• Maggie Haberman
• David Brooks
• Shannon Doyne
• Kurt Eichenwald
• Andrea Mitchell
• Savannah Guthrie
• Joy Reid
• Chuck Todd
• Noah Berlatsky
• Elisha Fieldstadt
• Eun Kyung Kim
• HBO
• Bill Maher
• Warner Media
• Conde Nast
• GQ
• Heavy.com
• The Hill
• The Atlantic
• Bustle.com
• Ilhan Omar
• Elizabeth Warren
• Kathy Griffin
• Alyssa Milano
• Jim Carrey

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

In the case of the Guardian he is probably suing in British Court, and they don't have the amendment there.

As for over here, the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from malicious slander or libel, the hard part is proving malicious intent.

As I have already pointed out, he doesn't need to. He's not a public figure. Proving malicious intent is only required if you are a public figure.

We will see. It is very very hard to prove libel or slander regardless.

People reported and commented on the information that was available at the time

That is not slander

 

[CowboyTed]

It's a long list of mostly wealthy people and companies. Sandmann is going to be a rich boy when this is all over:

Lawyers for Catholic Student Nick Sandmann Prepare to Sue for Libel

According to the Enquirer, the long list of people and outlets targeted includes:

• The Washington Post
• The New York Times
• Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN)
• The Guardian
• National Public Radio
• TMZ
• Atlantic Media Inc.
• Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.
• Diocese of Covington
• Diocese of Lexington
• Archdiocese of Louisville
• Diocese of Baltimore
• Ana Cabrera
• Sara Sidner
• Erin Burnett
• S.E. Cupp
• Elliot C. McLaughlin
• Amanda Watts
• Emanuella Grinberg
• Michelle Boorstein
• Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
• Antonio Olivo
• Joe Heim
• Michael E. Miller
• Eli Rosenberg
• Isaac Stanley-Becker
• Kristine Phillips
• Sarah Mervosh
• Emily S. Rueb
• Maggie Haberman
• David Brooks
• Shannon Doyne
• Kurt Eichenwald
• Andrea Mitchell
• Savannah Guthrie
• Joy Reid
• Chuck Todd
• Noah Berlatsky
• Elisha Fieldstadt
• Eun Kyung Kim
• HBO
• Bill Maher
• Warner Media
• Conde Nast
• GQ
• Heavy.com
• The Hill
• The Atlantic
• Bustle.com
• Ilhan Omar
• Elizabeth Warren
• Kathy Griffin
• Alyssa Milano
• Jim Carrey

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

Since when does the First Amendment make it legal to libel someone?

Libel law does not protect snowflakes from people having opinions about their deplorable actions

They lied about his actions. That's libel. Open-and-shut case.

Can you provide proof that these media outlets knowingly and wilfully told a lie...

If you can prove that...

Then Trump is truly screwed... He will be inundated with civil suits... Wow that would be huge... Endless lawsuit after another... Hey I hope the kid wins, Trump would go broke..

 

[Dragonlady]

from what i understand the famous Lawyer is taking the case with no cost to the Sandman family DragonLady . Think thats its said that the Lawyer is taking the case on a Contingency basis and will get paid if he wins for the Sandmans DragonLady .

------------------------------------------------------- and i might be mistaken about the CONTINGENCY BASIS DragonLady . --- Sandmann family hires lawyer specializing in libel, slander --- looks like it may be a straight Hire of L.LIN. WOOD a famous lawyer specializing in LIBEL and Slander cases since about 1996 . Lawyer Wood is supposed to be a good lawyer . As regards payment for the Lawyer , the Sandman Parents may have lots of money to pay Lawyers DragonLady .

It's amazing how fast lawyers go through "lots of money", when litigation is involved. It would take an army of junior lawyers and paralegals to prepare that many Statements of Claim, and Motions, file them, have them served, prepare affidavits of service, and file them with the court, and make sure all deadlines for filing and responding to motions are met.

Then there's billing software. There's a clock attacked to your lawyer's phone. When you call, he enters your file number into the phone before he picks up and you will be billed at your lawyer's going rate from the second he picks up until the moment you hang up. Even if the conversation devolves into what are your plans for the weekend, you will be billed at the rate of $600+ per hour for that phone call. A 10 minute phone call costs you $100 at the rate of $600 per hour. The same things happen when you call the the clerks and the juniors, but their billing rates are lower. Imagine a one hour co-ordinating meeting between the clerks, juniors and senior lawyers working this file. Even an half hour meeting would be billed out at $2000 plus depending on the size of the team.

Clerks are billed out at $150 per hour, Juniors at $300.00 The litigation lawyer at the small town law firm I worked at just before I retired for good, was charging $2500 for a court appearance. He's not famous nor does he have a big reputation. Each Statement of Claim has to be specific, about what you are claiming the other party did to harm you, so you can't just cut and past the information from one to another. A simple uncontested divorce, can easily run to $10,000 with meetings to negotiate settlements, dealing with child custody matters, and changing title to stocks bonds and property. A fully contested knock down drag out can run to $500,000 or more, depending on how angry and vindictive you want to be. And that's one lawsuit. There threatening to sue more than 50 individuals and corporations. At $100,000 per which is very a conservative cost for one lawsuit, that's $5,000,000.

And the whole process is about two years off your life. Is this how you want your son to spend his teenage years, being dragged from court house to court house for depositions, testimony and hearings? Really?

There is no way this family comes off looking good. They're parading this boy on news shows and all it shows is how painfully young he is, and how the teachers and the chaperones should never have let children this young get involved in any of this. They should have told them to ignore the crazy black guys yelling at them and told the driver to pick them up somewhere else.

Litigation is the failure of all other processes. What other processes have these people tried, and what are they lookiing for in terms of redress, and last but not least why? What has happened to this point is a story those kids can dine out on for years to come. If it doesn't end now, if they get used by the right to "make a point", they may well destroy their son's childhood and his future. I'm not joking.

The parents and the law firm have a contingency fee arrangement. Go look that up before you continue to spout your idiocies.

Then there will be no lawsuits. No legal firm can afford to run 50 big money lawsuits for one client, on contingency. Look for at the costs per law suit again. Especially one where they have no case.

If they didn't have a case, they wouldn't be wasting their time suing:

If you meet the requirements for a civil action, you can sue someone for defamation, whether libel or slander, if they have written or said something bad about you. However, you must be able to prove the necessary elements of a defamation suit if you wish to collect damages.

Understanding Defamation, Libel, and Slander

Defamation can take two forms, which are generally referred to as libel and slander. Libel is defined as a defamation of a person, group, organization, product, government, or country that was made in written or printed words or in pictures. Slander is the same thing, except the defamatory statement was made in the form of spoken words, sounds, sign language, or gestures.

Reasons for a Defamation Lawsuit

You may be able to sue for defamation if:

False statements were made as if they were true.
The defamation caused damages.

In cases of defamation “per se,” damage does not have to be proven. Defamation per say may occur when the party being sued states that the defamation victim:

Can I Sue Someone for Defamation if They Write or Say Something Bad About Me?

They haven't SUED anyone. They've written "chill letters". That's done ALL of the time. It will go no further.

 

[Polishprince]

Kathy Griffin and Jim Carrey

They won't think it's so funny when they lose a million dollar judgement.

The only ones who will lose are his dumb ass arrogant parents.

Your keep talking about these mythical law suits like they’ve already happened and they haven’t. The legal costs of filing would be in the range of a $100,000 and the law firm will want that money up front.

You’re confusing “Chill Letters” with law suits. I can send you a chill letter saying I’m going to sue YOU for slander because you called me a moron. And you’ll laugh and throw it in the garbage.

That these lawyers did and that’s what the recipients of those ridiculous letters will do.

Get back to us when they starting filing Motions.

What this thug's parents have done is shown us all EXACTLY why he's growing up as a thug.

Only black teens like Travon Martin get to be called thugs

White Catholic Boys like Sandmann are “precocious”

The Martin boy was a thug, however, and it had nothing to do with the fact that he was an African American. He did attack someone he described as a "creepy ass-cracker", an apparent gay slur against a proud Latino man who was oozing with machismo.

Personally, I think that Trayvon got off easy, considering who he chose to pick a fight with.

 

[martybegan]

It's a long list of mostly wealthy people and companies. Sandmann is going to be a rich boy when this is all over:

Lawyers for Catholic Student Nick Sandmann Prepare to Sue for Libel

According to the Enquirer, the long list of people and outlets targeted includes:

• The Washington Post
• The New York Times
• Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN)
• The Guardian
• National Public Radio
• TMZ
• Atlantic Media Inc.
• Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.
• Diocese of Covington
• Diocese of Lexington
• Archdiocese of Louisville
• Diocese of Baltimore
• Ana Cabrera
• Sara Sidner
• Erin Burnett
• S.E. Cupp
• Elliot C. McLaughlin
• Amanda Watts
• Emanuella Grinberg
• Michelle Boorstein
• Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
• Antonio Olivo
• Joe Heim
• Michael E. Miller
• Eli Rosenberg
• Isaac Stanley-Becker
• Kristine Phillips
• Sarah Mervosh
• Emily S. Rueb
• Maggie Haberman
• David Brooks
• Shannon Doyne
• Kurt Eichenwald
• Andrea Mitchell
• Savannah Guthrie
• Joy Reid
• Chuck Todd
• Noah Berlatsky
• Elisha Fieldstadt
• Eun Kyung Kim
• HBO
• Bill Maher
• Warner Media
• Conde Nast
• GQ
• Heavy.com
• The Hill
• The Atlantic
• Bustle.com
• Ilhan Omar
• Elizabeth Warren
• Kathy Griffin
• Alyssa Milano
• Jim Carrey

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

In the case of the Guardian he is probably suing in British Court, and they don't have the amendment there.

As for over here, the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from malicious slander or libel, the hard part is proving malicious intent.

As I have already pointed out, he doesn't need to. He's not a public figure. Proving malicious intent is only required if you are a public figure.

We will see. It is very very hard to prove libel or slander regardless.

People reported and commented on the information that was available at the time

That is not slander

They did zero due diligence, and reported an erroneous incomplete story.

 

[rightwinger]

Kathy Griffin and Jim Carrey

They won't think it's so funny when they lose a million dollar judgement.

The only ones who will lose are his dumb ass arrogant parents.

Your keep talking about these mythical law suits like they’ve already happened and they haven’t. The legal costs of filing would be in the range of a $100,000 and the law firm will want that money up front.

You’re confusing “Chill Letters” with law suits. I can send you a chill letter saying I’m going to sue YOU for slander because you called me a moron. And you’ll laugh and throw it in the garbage.

That these lawyers did and that’s what the recipients of those ridiculous letters will do.

Get back to us when they starting filing Motions.

What this thug's parents have done is shown us all EXACTLY why he's growing up as a thug.

Only black teens like Travon Martin get to be called thugs

White Catholic Boys like Sandmann are “precocious”

The Martin boy was a thug, however, and it had nothing to do with the fact that he was an African American. He did attack someone he described as a "creepy ass-cracker", an apparent gay slur against a proud Latino man who was oozing with machismo.

Personally, I think that Trayvon got off easy, considering who he chose to pick a fight with.

Another moron proves my point

 

[Polishprince]

It's a long list of mostly wealthy people and companies. Sandmann is going to be a rich boy when this is all over:

Lawyers for Catholic Student Nick Sandmann Prepare to Sue for Libel

According to the Enquirer, the long list of people and outlets targeted includes:

• The Washington Post
• The New York Times
• Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN)
• The Guardian
• National Public Radio
• TMZ
• Atlantic Media Inc.
• Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.
• Diocese of Covington
• Diocese of Lexington
• Archdiocese of Louisville
• Diocese of Baltimore
• Ana Cabrera
• Sara Sidner
• Erin Burnett
• S.E. Cupp
• Elliot C. McLaughlin
• Amanda Watts
• Emanuella Grinberg
• Michelle Boorstein
• Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
• Antonio Olivo
• Joe Heim
• Michael E. Miller
• Eli Rosenberg
• Isaac Stanley-Becker
• Kristine Phillips
• Sarah Mervosh
• Emily S. Rueb
• Maggie Haberman
• David Brooks
• Shannon Doyne
• Kurt Eichenwald
• Andrea Mitchell
• Savannah Guthrie
• Joy Reid
• Chuck Todd
• Noah Berlatsky
• Elisha Fieldstadt
• Eun Kyung Kim
• HBO
• Bill Maher
• Warner Media
• Conde Nast
• GQ
• Heavy.com
• The Hill
• The Atlantic
• Bustle.com
• Ilhan Omar
• Elizabeth Warren
• Kathy Griffin
• Alyssa Milano
• Jim Carrey

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

In the case of the Guardian he is probably suing in British Court, and they don't have the amendment there.

As for over here, the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from malicious slander or libel, the hard part is proving malicious intent.

As I have already pointed out, he doesn't need to. He's not a public figure. Proving malicious intent is only required if you are a public figure.

We will see. It is very very hard to prove libel or slander regardless.

People reported and commented on the information that was available at the time

That is not slander

Nothing that is known now, wasn't known to the All Powerful Media on the day the event happened. The Black Congressional Israelites were very well known to Bezos' Washington Post staff.

 

[rightwinger]

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

In the case of the Guardian he is probably suing in British Court, and they don't have the amendment there.

As for over here, the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from malicious slander or libel, the hard part is proving malicious intent.

As I have already pointed out, he doesn't need to. He's not a public figure. Proving malicious intent is only required if you are a public figure.

We will see. It is very very hard to prove libel or slander regardless.

People reported and commented on the information that was available at the time

That is not slander

They did zero due diligence, and reported an erroneous incomplete story.

All stories are incomplete immediately after they happen

By the time the media got ahold of the story it was rampant on social media. That is how today’s news cycle works

Unless the media intentionally fabricated or altered the information, there is no case

 

[rightwinger]

How will he get the 1st amendment repealed?

In the case of the Guardian he is probably suing in British Court, and they don't have the amendment there.

As for over here, the 1st amendment doesn't protect you from malicious slander or libel, the hard part is proving malicious intent.

As I have already pointed out, he doesn't need to. He's not a public figure. Proving malicious intent is only required if you are a public figure.

We will see. It is very very hard to prove libel or slander regardless.

People reported and commented on the information that was available at the time

That is not slander

Nothing that is known now, wasn't known to the All Powerful Media on the day the event happened. The Black Congressional Israelites were very well known to Bezos' Washington Post staff.

There was initially one video of the confrontation