The most fucked in the head opinion piece I have ever read to justify criminals.

[danielpalos]

Most or all Illegals crossing the borders are only seeking a better life. Not criminals like some of you defined.

That's a fucking crime idiot. And show me where I've defended anyone convicted of a crime.

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Oh please. Crossing the border seeking better life is a crime?

Yes it is. It's officially a crime. It's in the federal register.

But federal jurisdiction over immigration is not in the Constitution, so is not really legal legislation.
The government does a lot of illegal things, like the War on Drugs and Gun Control, both things it is illegal for the federal government to legislate at all.

You really are stupid aren't you, I refer you to Article 1, Section 9. Clause 1. Or are you spewing these lies for another reason?

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The right wing appeals to ignorance of express clauses.

 

[danielpalos]

It’s far more complicated than that.

These people that are here are economically and politically imbedded in our society. It’s very easy for people like you to say deport deport........ But ignored their importance and contributions to the booming economy.


*** Do you understand how this come about? Let me explain. Ugly inhumane disgusting Americans called illegal border crossing are criminals.
Decent Americans with a good heart and human being totally disagree with you. We do not called them criminals. So we ( not you) are going to change that law.

They may not be criminals via technicality, but they should be. Congress should pass a law that if you are caught here illegally, it's a felony punishable by a minimum of five years in prison. Illegal immigration solved.

That would mean a person that overstayed their Visa including business travelers, students, and tourist as well as all DACA kids would be facing 5 years in prison for a minor violation.

I don't know what effect that might have on illegal immigrants crossing the border since many of them would consider a federal penitentiary better than where they came from.

However, there would certainly be retaliations against Americans traveling throughout the world. You know this is so outlandish and stupid your supreme leader just might consider it. I sure hope he does.

Not as much as I do. I would love to see such a law and end this problem once and for all. Yes, overstays, business travelers and tourists. Anybody that's not legally here gets charged and sentenced to prison.

Of course Trump could not do this on his own. It would have to be a law created and passed through Congress.

Would it work? It worked for Arizona when they created much less severe laws. Immigrants got the hell out of that state in 24 hours. Schools reporting over half the class not showing up; same for employers that hired these illegal workers. Gone. Of course, DumBama being a Democrat that hates success sued to have the laws rescinded.

I say let's try it for about six or seven years and examine the results. If successful, would you be on board to keep the law permanent?

Trump fixed that.

WASHINGTON — Hundreds of migrant families seeking asylum in the U.S. were released from detention in Arizona this week without warning and without instructions on where to go, how to find relatives or travel to their court hearings.

Release of hundreds of migrants in Phoenix is 'start of dam breaking'

Yep, the Cloward and Piven strategy is working temporarily, now we have a safe third country agreement with Guatemala, asylum seekers who didn't request asylum in Guatemala will be sent back there.

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are we providing assistance to Guatemala to help improve those conditions which are causing the refugee issue?

 

[danielpalos]

That's a fucking crime idiot. And show me where I've defended anyone convicted of a crime.

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Oh please. Crossing the border seeking better life is a crime?

Yes it is. It's officially a crime. It's in the federal register.

But federal jurisdiction over immigration is not in the Constitution, so is not really legal legislation.
The government does a lot of illegal things, like the War on Drugs and Gun Control, both things it is illegal for the federal government to legislate at all.

The Constitution was not written to tell us what the federal government can do, it was written to tell us what they can't.

Just because it's not in the Constitution doesn't mean we can't write laws about it. We can write all the laws we want provided they don't violate the Constitution.

It's in the Constitution Ray, don't buy their bullshit.

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no, it isn't. stop bearing false witness, right wingers. it is immoral.

 

[danielpalos]

Another bulshit Ray. You are putting words in my mouth.
Yes of course we have docks lights, portable AC, 15 minutes breaks every 45 minutes rotations etc etc etc. We do all that shit Ray just to keep them around. Because when they walked tits very costly.

Well you can't give me that Americans won't do the job nonsense. You can bullshit other people, but you can't bullshit somebody that's been in the transportation industry for over three decades. I've been to plenty of container ports and warehouses in my time. Well over 95% are Americans doing that job.

I do not bulshit like you. Ray. All my post are based from real life experience. I will be violating my own DECENT principles if I lie.

First I know that you are a racist bigot piece of shit. That I know.

You stupidly assumed that every emptying a container are the same in every locations.
You stupidly assumed that every locations or culture has the same attitude or kind of workers.

And you are a truck driver? Normally they just dropped the containers and leave and don’t give a shit with the rest.

And you are just struck driver how do you even know that other Americans are not willing to do dirty jobs?

Like I said many times. There are jobs all over but there are no Americans that farmers or others industries that do dirty jobs. That’s a fact and you always try to downplayed. Evidence are all over.
So don’t lie to me.

I think it is you that is lying, because I've been here for a few years. It seems that every liberal here is either a business owner, works from home, independently wealthy, or comfortably retired. Me? I'm the only truck driver here.

Now as for my work: I deliver and pickup at warehouses and container ports all the time. I see for myself who those workers are. And most times, they are the same people with every delivery or pickup. I don't sit in the truck and wait to be loaded or unloaded in most cases. I'm on the dock with those workers.

If being against illegal immigration makes me a racist, then that's what I am and proud of it.

Oh I’m very sure you are very proud as a racist.

You are a liar big time because I encountered you several times of almost of the same topic. SUDDENLY you are emptying containers.

When I joined this site I put in exactly what I do for a living and where I live. This is the only thing that I did for my entire life. I don’t lie.
YOU suddenly you are doing this and that?

Like I just said... You STUPIDLY assumed that every locations that empty containers are the same.

You STUPIDLY assumed that every locations are the same kind of workers, attitude or culture.

You are so fucking ignorant with just relying with your low experience as lousy truck driver.

Why are you surprised if liberals are business owners? Is it because you don’t know anything? Or just plain ignorant.

Because I speak with real business owners all the time. I have wealthy people in my family. None of them talk about government taking more from them, increasing minimum wage, and more regulations on businesses. They all know these are business destructive policies.

However the so-called liberal business owners and so-called wealthy liberals on USMB support these things and more.

I see that you are comprehension challenged. So instead of repeating myself, I defy you to quote one of my posts where I said I emptied containers. I dare ya.

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By actually solving for simple poverty by solving for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment in our at-will employment States, we could be reducing the "Government footprint" on business. We could eliminate a statutory minimum wage by providing compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States. In that manner, we can achieve a more full employment of capital resources and increase market participation by Individuals.

Since labor could quit on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, the market for Labor should be much more efficient with only those actually willing and able to provide that labor input to our economy, being capitally motivated to provide it.

An additional bonus for employers, is that the State would simply ask for general taxes for that government function, thus relieving the private sector of any direct unemployment costs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You commies are responsible for the attitudes of kids today, they're not taught respect for themselves or others, the dignity of hard work and saving. Instant gratification is what people look for, they're not taught that is unrealistic. And people are wondering why kids pick up guns when their unrealistic expectation aren't met. It's all on our government halls of indoctrination and lax moral standards.
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Perhaps Donald Trump is their role model. Go bankrupt four times and still live high on the hog.

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Trump did not have seven bankruptcies, he had four. Furthermore Trump owned or operated over 500 businesses in his career.

Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies

No Ray, he had 7. The 6 listed here, and the Toronto Trump Hotel in 2016, while campaigning for President.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/

As for his claim that he owned or operated over 500 businesses, in his career, that's because real estate developers incorporate a new company every time they make an offer. I was the corporate clerk for a firm with a major construction client, and that client had over 2000 subsidiary corporations, of which 200 were currently active, and NONE of them ever went bankrupt.

Trump keeps lying to you about his business record, and fools like you believe him. People who actually work in real estate development and entrepreneurial ventures, just roll their eyes at Trump's lying claims. Even worse, Trump brags about making money by bankrtupting companies. He bragged that he made $40 million from his first bankrtupcy, and he's been running this con ever since.

When the Trump Hotel in Toronto went bankrupt, the Trump Corporation was paid $6 million to cancel their management contract. That's over and above the close to $2 million they were paid to "manage" the property into bankruptcy. Everyone involved in this project lost money except Donald Trump.

These 7 bankrtupcies are just the tip of the iceberg. Trump has also mismanaged Trump Resort in Puerto Rico into bankrtupcy, and his Trump Indonesia project received a $500 million "loan" from the Chinese government shortly after Trump won the election.

There is also the failure of Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, Trump Mortgages, Trump University - virtually every business Trump has ever run. Of his US properties, only the three east coast golf courses are making money. The ones where he sells access.

The only real Trump business success is his TV show, where he plays a smart businessman who fires people.

It's not what Trump tells me. I fact check everything like the link I provided, and Politifact is a completely leftist source, but I put them against a leftist rag like the WP any day of the week. Those anti-capitalist people at the WP won''t even let you into their web site unless you pay them money.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well if the money we send to Mexico is to do all that, it's money wasted as we all know.

*** The point of my post however is that we Americans are constantly getting kicked in the ass.

In spite of all we do, others criticize us for not doing more. It's like the stories you hear from other people who lent a friend or family member money, and then they found out their friend or family member went on a European vacation or purchased a boat or something.

*** Bull fucking shit. Now that you piss me off...... Who told you that we are constantly getting kicked in the ass?

As far as I know we are kicking every one ass all over the world. We used to be the leader of the free world. We used to be someone has to look up too. Look at the economy.
We dominated every one. Till that racist piece of shit came along. Scaring, lying to Americans that we are bad and in danger of becoming instinct.

We are dominating everyone with Trump. Our economy hasn't been this good in nearly 50 years, and at the pace we are at now, it will exceed that mark as well.

Yes, we are getting kicked in the ass. Kicked in the ass by liberals, kicked in the ass by liberal judges, kicked in the ass by the posters here and in nearly any blog you go to.

In the event you don't understand that comment, by kicked in the ass, I mean by others telling us we are not doing enough. All this talk about socialist and Communist countries that are so great, and not one of them match us when it comes to benevolence; none that match our record of allowing outsiders to participate in our success. We do the most, and I dare you to find another country that does more.

What benevolence? USA is not even on the screen.

Say WTF percentage?

So Sweden gives $2.50 cents

And the USA gives 900 billion plus
Dumb fuck

USA doesn't give $900 billion plus. If it did it would be top of the list.

I apologize if you are not enjoying being fucked in the head.

Well if the money we send to Mexico is to do all that, it's money wasted as we all know.

*** The point of my post however is that we Americans are constantly getting kicked in the ass.

In spite of all we do, others criticize us for not doing more. It's like the stories you hear from other people who lent a friend or family member money, and then they found out their friend or family member went on a European vacation or purchased a boat or something.

*** Bull fucking shit. Now that you piss me off...... Who told you that we are constantly getting kicked in the ass?

As far as I know we are kicking every one ass all over the world. We used to be the leader of the free world. We used to be someone has to look up too. Look at the economy.
We dominated every one. Till that racist piece of shit came along. Scaring, lying to Americans that we are bad and in danger of becoming instinct.

We are dominating everyone with Trump. Our economy hasn't been this good in nearly 50 years, and at the pace we are at now, it will exceed that mark as well.

Yes, we are getting kicked in the ass. Kicked in the ass by liberals, kicked in the ass by liberal judges, kicked in the ass by the posters here and in nearly any blog you go to.

In the event you don't understand that comment, by kicked in the ass, I mean by others telling us we are not doing enough. All this talk about socialist and Communist countries that are so great, and not one of them match us when it comes to benevolence; none that match our record of allowing outsiders to participate in our success. We do the most, and I dare you to find another country that does more.

What benevolence? USA is not even on the screen.

Say WTF percentage?

So Sweden gives $2.50 cents

And the USA gives 900 billion plus
Dumb fuck

USA doesn't give $900 billion plus. If it did it would be top of the list.

I apologize if you are not enjoying being fucked in the head.

Oh excuse me a trillion plus..


Foreign aid and military power to defend your piss ass country's..


You're welcome.


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[OKTexas]

They may not be criminals via technicality, but they should be. Congress should pass a law that if you are caught here illegally, it's a felony punishable by a minimum of five years in prison. Illegal immigration solved.

That would mean a person that overstayed their Visa including business travelers, students, and tourist as well as all DACA kids would be facing 5 years in prison for a minor violation.

I don't know what effect that might have on illegal immigrants crossing the border since many of them would consider a federal penitentiary better than where they came from.

However, there would certainly be retaliations against Americans traveling throughout the world. You know this is so outlandish and stupid your supreme leader just might consider it. I sure hope he does.

Not as much as I do. I would love to see such a law and end this problem once and for all. Yes, overstays, business travelers and tourists. Anybody that's not legally here gets charged and sentenced to prison.

Of course Trump could not do this on his own. It would have to be a law created and passed through Congress.

Would it work? It worked for Arizona when they created much less severe laws. Immigrants got the hell out of that state in 24 hours. Schools reporting over half the class not showing up; same for employers that hired these illegal workers. Gone. Of course, DumBama being a Democrat that hates success sued to have the laws rescinded.

I say let's try it for about six or seven years and examine the results. If successful, would you be on board to keep the law permanent?

Trump fixed that.

WASHINGTON — Hundreds of migrant families seeking asylum in the U.S. were released from detention in Arizona this week without warning and without instructions on where to go, how to find relatives or travel to their court hearings.

Release of hundreds of migrants in Phoenix is 'start of dam breaking'

Yep, the Cloward and Piven strategy is working temporarily, now we have a safe third country agreement with Guatemala, asylum seekers who didn't request asylum in Guatemala will be sent back there.

.

We have no agreements with anyone.

Your ignorance is showing again.

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[OKTexas]

I've done much worse in my life. Have you ever been in a rendering plant, I worked in one for 4 years, and for much less than you're talking about.

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I believed you. But you may be like the old timers employees like I mentioned earlier.
Especially with very low unemployment.

But time had changed. Kids are very different now a days. Millennials think and behave differently. The generations next to it are more spoiled. This is in general whites, blacks, Asians, latinos, Muslims etc etc. Time had changed. And when we find someone eligible for perm job at warehouse either a marijuana smoker or college educated kids.

The old timers that we have are the life savers when we cannot find workers that will empty my containers. But we cannot abuse them that is why try very hard to find other workers.

You commies are responsible for the attitudes of kids today, they're not taught respect for themselves or others, the dignity of hard work and saving. Instant gratification is what people look for, they're not taught that is unrealistic. And people are wondering why kids pick up guns when their unrealistic expectation aren't met. It's all on our government halls of indoctrination and lax moral standards.
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Perhaps Donald Trump is their role model. Go bankrupt four times and still live high on the hog.

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

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[Dragonlady]

I believed you. But you may be like the old timers employees like I mentioned earlier.
Especially with very low unemployment.

But time had changed. Kids are very different now a days. Millennials think and behave differently. The generations next to it are more spoiled. This is in general whites, blacks, Asians, latinos, Muslims etc etc. Time had changed. And when we find someone eligible for perm job at warehouse either a marijuana smoker or college educated kids.

The old timers that we have are the life savers when we cannot find workers that will empty my containers. But we cannot abuse them that is why try very hard to find other workers.

You commies are responsible for the attitudes of kids today, they're not taught respect for themselves or others, the dignity of hard work and saving. Instant gratification is what people look for, they're not taught that is unrealistic. And people are wondering why kids pick up guns when their unrealistic expectation aren't met. It's all on our government halls of indoctrination and lax moral standards.
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Perhaps Donald Trump is their role model. Go bankrupt four times and still live high on the hog.

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

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Not very many, and none as spectularly as Trump. One of his casinos went bust twice.

No other American businessman lost over $1 billion in the 1980's. No other American businessman has been involved in 7 major bankrtupcies. No other condominium over 14 stories in Toronto has gone bankrupt, except Trump Tower.

Watching Trump's management style in the White House, it's obvious why he's lost so much money. He's the worst negotiator ever - unprepared, unreliable, and going on the same "gut instincts" that lead to 7 bankrtupcies, and multiple business failures. He either fires or drives away anyone who disagrees with him. And he has no plans and what plans he has can get tossed if he wakes up in a bad mood.

 

[OKTexas]

You commies are responsible for the attitudes of kids today, they're not taught respect for themselves or others, the dignity of hard work and saving. Instant gratification is what people look for, they're not taught that is unrealistic. And people are wondering why kids pick up guns when their unrealistic expectation aren't met. It's all on our government halls of indoctrination and lax moral standards.
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Perhaps Donald Trump is their role model. Go bankrupt four times and still live high on the hog.

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

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Not very many, and none as spectularly as Trump. One of his casinos went bust twice.

No other American businessman lost over $1 billion in the 1980's. No other American businessman has been involved in 7 major bankrtupcies. No other condominium over 14 stories in Toronto has gone bankrupt, except Trump Tower.

Watching Trump's management style in the White House, it's obvious why he's lost so much money. He's the worst negotiator ever - unprepared, unreliable, and going on the same "gut instincts" that lead to 7 bankrtupcies, and multiple business failures. He either fires or drives away anyone who disagrees with him. And he has no plans and what plans he has can get tossed if he wakes up in a bad mood.

The fact is Atlantic City has a long history of casino bankruptcies, one is trying to write off a billion just this year.

New casino bankrupt: There goes Atlantic City?

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[pknopp]

That would mean a person that overstayed their Visa including business travelers, students, and tourist as well as all DACA kids would be facing 5 years in prison for a minor violation.

I don't know what effect that might have on illegal immigrants crossing the border since many of them would consider a federal penitentiary better than where they came from.

However, there would certainly be retaliations against Americans traveling throughout the world. You know this is so outlandish and stupid your supreme leader just might consider it. I sure hope he does.

Not as much as I do. I would love to see such a law and end this problem once and for all. Yes, overstays, business travelers and tourists. Anybody that's not legally here gets charged and sentenced to prison.

Of course Trump could not do this on his own. It would have to be a law created and passed through Congress.

Would it work? It worked for Arizona when they created much less severe laws. Immigrants got the hell out of that state in 24 hours. Schools reporting over half the class not showing up; same for employers that hired these illegal workers. Gone. Of course, DumBama being a Democrat that hates success sued to have the laws rescinded.

I say let's try it for about six or seven years and examine the results. If successful, would you be on board to keep the law permanent?

Trump fixed that.

WASHINGTON — Hundreds of migrant families seeking asylum in the U.S. were released from detention in Arizona this week without warning and without instructions on where to go, how to find relatives or travel to their court hearings.

Release of hundreds of migrants in Phoenix is 'start of dam breaking'

Yep, the Cloward and Piven strategy is working temporarily, now we have a safe third country agreement with Guatemala, asylum seekers who didn't request asylum in Guatemala will be sent back there.

.

We have no agreements with anyone.

Your ignorance is showing again.

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Trump says we have agreements. The countries say "no we don't".

 

[OKTexas]

Not as much as I do. I would love to see such a law and end this problem once and for all. Yes, overstays, business travelers and tourists. Anybody that's not legally here gets charged and sentenced to prison.

Of course Trump could not do this on his own. It would have to be a law created and passed through Congress.

Would it work? It worked for Arizona when they created much less severe laws. Immigrants got the hell out of that state in 24 hours. Schools reporting over half the class not showing up; same for employers that hired these illegal workers. Gone. Of course, DumBama being a Democrat that hates success sued to have the laws rescinded.

I say let's try it for about six or seven years and examine the results. If successful, would you be on board to keep the law permanent?

Trump fixed that.

WASHINGTON — Hundreds of migrant families seeking asylum in the U.S. were released from detention in Arizona this week without warning and without instructions on where to go, how to find relatives or travel to their court hearings.

Release of hundreds of migrants in Phoenix is 'start of dam breaking'

Yep, the Cloward and Piven strategy is working temporarily, now we have a safe third country agreement with Guatemala, asylum seekers who didn't request asylum in Guatemala will be sent back there.

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We have no agreements with anyone.

Your ignorance is showing again.

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Trump says we have agreements. The countries say "no we don't".

Link?

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[pknopp]

Trump fixed that.

WASHINGTON — Hundreds of migrant families seeking asylum in the U.S. were released from detention in Arizona this week without warning and without instructions on where to go, how to find relatives or travel to their court hearings.

Release of hundreds of migrants in Phoenix is 'start of dam breaking'

Yep, the Cloward and Piven strategy is working temporarily, now we have a safe third country agreement with Guatemala, asylum seekers who didn't request asylum in Guatemala will be sent back there.

.

We have no agreements with anyone.

Your ignorance is showing again.

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Trump says we have agreements. The countries say "no we don't".

Link?

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"Mexico does not agree with measures that limit asylum and refugee status for those who fear for their lives or safety, and who fear persecution in their country of origin," Ebrard said.

Trump Administration Implementing 'Safe 3rd Country' Rule On Migrants Seeking Asylum

 

[OKTexas]

Yep, the Cloward and Piven strategy is working temporarily, now we have a safe third country agreement with Guatemala, asylum seekers who didn't request asylum in Guatemala will be sent back there.

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We have no agreements with anyone.

Your ignorance is showing again.

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Trump says we have agreements. The countries say "no we don't".

Link?

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"Mexico does not agree with measures that limit asylum and refugee status for those who fear for their lives or safety, and who fear persecution in their country of origin," Ebrard said.

Trump Administration Implementing 'Safe 3rd Country' Rule On Migrants Seeking Asylum

We weren't talking about Mexico, were we?

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[Denizen]

*** Bull fucking shit. Now that you piss me off...... Who told you that we are constantly getting kicked in the ass?

As far as I know we are kicking every one ass all over the world. We used to be the leader of the free world. We used to be someone has to look up too. Look at the economy.
We dominated every one. Till that racist piece of shit came along. Scaring, lying to Americans that we are bad and in danger of becoming instinct.

We are dominating everyone with Trump. Our economy hasn't been this good in nearly 50 years, and at the pace we are at now, it will exceed that mark as well.

Yes, we are getting kicked in the ass. Kicked in the ass by liberals, kicked in the ass by liberal judges, kicked in the ass by the posters here and in nearly any blog you go to.

In the event you don't understand that comment, by kicked in the ass, I mean by others telling us we are not doing enough. All this talk about socialist and Communist countries that are so great, and not one of them match us when it comes to benevolence; none that match our record of allowing outsiders to participate in our success. We do the most, and I dare you to find another country that does more.

What benevolence? USA is not even on the screen.

Say WTF percentage?

So Sweden gives $2.50 cents

And the USA gives 900 billion plus
Dumb fuck

USA doesn't give $900 billion plus. If it did it would be top of the list.

I apologize if you are not enjoying being fucked in the head.

*** Bull fucking shit. Now that you piss me off...... Who told you that we are constantly getting kicked in the ass?

As far as I know we are kicking every one ass all over the world. We used to be the leader of the free world. We used to be someone has to look up too. Look at the economy.
We dominated every one. Till that racist piece of shit came along. Scaring, lying to Americans that we are bad and in danger of becoming instinct.

We are dominating everyone with Trump. Our economy hasn't been this good in nearly 50 years, and at the pace we are at now, it will exceed that mark as well.

Yes, we are getting kicked in the ass. Kicked in the ass by liberals, kicked in the ass by liberal judges, kicked in the ass by the posters here and in nearly any blog you go to.

In the event you don't understand that comment, by kicked in the ass, I mean by others telling us we are not doing enough. All this talk about socialist and Communist countries that are so great, and not one of them match us when it comes to benevolence; none that match our record of allowing outsiders to participate in our success. We do the most, and I dare you to find another country that does more.

What benevolence? USA is not even on the screen.

Say WTF percentage?

So Sweden gives $2.50 cents

And the USA gives 900 billion plus
Dumb fuck

USA doesn't give $900 billion plus. If it did it would be top of the list.

I apologize if you are not enjoying being fucked in the head.

Oh excuse me a trillion plus..


Foreign aid and military power to defend your piss ass country's..


You're welcome.


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Defend against who? USA only fights to protect its own interest.

 

[Denizen]

Perhaps Donald Trump is their role model. Go bankrupt four times and still live high on the hog.

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

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Not very many, and none as spectularly as Trump. One of his casinos went bust twice.

No other American businessman lost over $1 billion in the 1980's. No other American businessman has been involved in 7 major bankrtupcies. No other condominium over 14 stories in Toronto has gone bankrupt, except Trump Tower.

Watching Trump's management style in the White House, it's obvious why he's lost so much money. He's the worst negotiator ever - unprepared, unreliable, and going on the same "gut instincts" that lead to 7 bankrtupcies, and multiple business failures. He either fires or drives away anyone who disagrees with him. And he has no plans and what plans he has can get tossed if he wakes up in a bad mood.

The fact is Atlantic City has a long history of casino bankruptcies, one is trying to write off a billion just this year.

New casino bankrupt: There goes Atlantic City?

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Trump lost on more than casinos. He would have failed in real estate too without Russian money which then would have given him a 100% failure rate in all business.

Trump has succeeded in the laundry business. Money laundering.

 

[OKTexas]

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

.

Not very many, and none as spectularly as Trump. One of his casinos went bust twice.

No other American businessman lost over $1 billion in the 1980's. No other American businessman has been involved in 7 major bankrtupcies. No other condominium over 14 stories in Toronto has gone bankrupt, except Trump Tower.

Watching Trump's management style in the White House, it's obvious why he's lost so much money. He's the worst negotiator ever - unprepared, unreliable, and going on the same "gut instincts" that lead to 7 bankrtupcies, and multiple business failures. He either fires or drives away anyone who disagrees with him. And he has no plans and what plans he has can get tossed if he wakes up in a bad mood.

The fact is Atlantic City has a long history of casino bankruptcies, one is trying to write off a billion just this year.

New casino bankrupt: There goes Atlantic City?

.

Trump lost on more than casinos. He would have failed in real estate too without Russian money which then would have given him a 100% failure rate in all business.

Trump has succeeded in the laundry business. Money laundering.

Really, you got any proof, or just what you're pulling from you ass.

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[Ray From Cleveland]

You're a liar and intellectually dishonest. Trump never personally declared bankruptcy, some of his companies did, along with millions of other companies in the US.

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You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

.

Not very many, and none as spectularly as Trump. One of his casinos went bust twice.

No other American businessman lost over $1 billion in the 1980's. No other American businessman has been involved in 7 major bankrtupcies. No other condominium over 14 stories in Toronto has gone bankrupt, except Trump Tower.

Watching Trump's management style in the White House, it's obvious why he's lost so much money. He's the worst negotiator ever - unprepared, unreliable, and going on the same "gut instincts" that lead to 7 bankrtupcies, and multiple business failures. He either fires or drives away anyone who disagrees with him. And he has no plans and what plans he has can get tossed if he wakes up in a bad mood.

The fact is Atlantic City has a long history of casino bankruptcies, one is trying to write off a billion just this year.

New casino bankrupt: There goes Atlantic City?

.

Trump lost on more than casinos. He would have failed in real estate too without Russian money which then would have given him a 100% failure rate in all business.

Trump has succeeded in the laundry business. Money laundering.

Funny how you know so much more than our authorities or the IRS who audited Trump multiple times.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have to be kidding me hey politico THEY ARE CRIMINALS ...we are a nation of laws you numb nuts..


The ICE raids aren’t just wrong – they’re expensive


The ICE raids aren’t just wrong – they’re expensive

Does it make sense to spend $50,000 locking up someone for supporting her family?

This week, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement raided seven Mississippi food processing plants and arrested 680 workers for immigration violations. The moral cost of these raids to our shared humanity is apparent in stories like that of a tearful 13-year-old boy waving goodbye to his mother or an 11-year old girl pleading for her father’s release. But some people might feel differently, believing such scenes are just the cost of enforcing our immigration laws. If that’s you, I urge you to weigh another cost instead: the sheer financial expense of such cruelty.

First, there’s lost income. ICE was created in 2003 to “protect national security and public safety after 9/11,” but this week’s raids were not about security or safety or terrorism. They targeted immigrants while they worked to support their families and our economy. Many of the arrested individuals now leave behind jobs that won’t be filled and children and spouses who now live without a family member and their associated income. Their communities and local businesses will suffer down the line. And state and local governments will lose the associated tax revenues; undocumented workers pay an estimated $12 billion a year in taxes.

Then there are the costs of enforcement and detention. ICE Acting Director Matt Albence admitted that the raids required a yearlong investigation and 600 agents to execute. The 680 arrested individuals now languish in detention facilities. According to ICE, the average daily cost of detaining one person is $134. Some estimates place the cost at closer to $200 per day. Given this administration’s immigration policies, from family separation to zero tolerance to mass raids, the number of immigrants in detention is rapidly expanding, not retracting. For every person who leaves detention, another replaces them, if not two. Even using ICE’s conservative figure of $134, the cost of keeping one immigrant in detention is almost $50,000 per year. The detention expense alone for the group detained on Wednesday is approximately $100,000 a day, $3 million per month, and $36 million a year. Given that more raids are coming, these costs are only going to go up.

The 680 arrested individuals now languish in detention facilities. According to ICE, the average daily cost of detaining one person is $134. Some estimates place the cost at closer to $200 per day.

I agree, we should deport these illegal aliens the day we pick them up.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You're the one who's being intellectually dishonest here, OK. Donald Trump has had 7 major business bankruptcies, not 4. This is a record for any American businessman. Trump's record of bankruptcy and failure is the worst record in American business history. This is NOT, as you have suggested, just normal business practice, for someone who operates a lot of businesses. And this is over and above the more than $1 billion Trump had in losses in the 1980's that his father bailed him out of. Also a record for an American businessman.

Trump is such a bad businessman, that no American bank will lend to him, after the billions they lost on his casinos. This is, in part, because Trump's businesses aren't built to make money, they're built to make Donald Trump money, and everyone else loses.

In watching Trump manage the country, it's painfully obvious why he's lost so much money. He has no plan, just some nebulous goal and vague notion of what it might take to get there. He doesn't prep for negotiations, he just goes on his "gut instincts". The same gut instincts that lost $1 billion in the 1980's and lead to 7 major business bankrtupcies in the years since.

The Toronto Star recently stated in an article that Trump Tower Toronto is one of over 400 large condominiums buildings constructed in Toronto since 1990. Of those 400+ condos, only one condominium has declared bankruptcy - Trump Tower. Until the bankruptcy, the hotel was operated and managed by the Trump Corporation, on behalf of its Russian owner.

How every investor lost money on Trump Tower Toronto (but Donald Trump made millions anyway) | The Star

Trump promised the American people he would run the country the way he runs his business, and sadly, that's exactly what he's doing.

Tell the class how many other casinos went tits up in Atlantic City.

.

Not very many, and none as spectularly as Trump. One of his casinos went bust twice.

No other American businessman lost over $1 billion in the 1980's. No other American businessman has been involved in 7 major bankrtupcies. No other condominium over 14 stories in Toronto has gone bankrupt, except Trump Tower.

Watching Trump's management style in the White House, it's obvious why he's lost so much money. He's the worst negotiator ever - unprepared, unreliable, and going on the same "gut instincts" that lead to 7 bankrtupcies, and multiple business failures. He either fires or drives away anyone who disagrees with him. And he has no plans and what plans he has can get tossed if he wakes up in a bad mood.

The fact is Atlantic City has a long history of casino bankruptcies, one is trying to write off a billion just this year.

New casino bankrupt: There goes Atlantic City?

.

Trump lost on more than casinos. He would have failed in real estate too without Russian money which then would have given him a 100% failure rate in all business.

Trump has succeeded in the laundry business. Money laundering.

Funny how you know so much more than our authorities or the IRS who audited Trump multiple times.

No kidding and this poster lives in France