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So, um, what does that have to do with anything related to his ability to do his job as President?
You need to ask that question to all the conservatives who repeated 'character matters' over and over and over and over again,
like a mantra, in the nineties, when they were talking about Clinton.
Apparently, they were just spewing horseshit, right?
because you and your cohorts have all bailed or tried to change the subject.
Madison is still right and you are still a classless republican party whore who refuses cold hard facts.
because you and your cohorts have all bailed or tried to change the subject.
Madison is still right and you are still a classless republican party whore who refuses cold hard facts.
and you're still the boards biggest liar. I'm so proud to call you a demoncrat.
James Madison's Veto Messages by Gene Garman
June 3, 1811
I have recd. fellow Citizens your address, approving my Objection to the Bill contain[in]g a grant of public land, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House Missippi Terry. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion & Civil Govt as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constn: of the U.S.
Madison is the Father of our constitution.
essential to the purity of both
Then he should have wrote that in there unambigiously...
The reason he probably didn't was because you had all the puritans in the northern colonies who wouldn't have ratified it if they thought he was dissin' God.
So he wrote something kind of vague about "establishment of religion", and called it a day.
What does that even mean?
Does it mean that Congress can't make any laws that apply to a religion? Nobody tell the Branch Davidians.
Or does it mean they just can't establish a state religion.
because you and your cohorts have all bailed or tried to change the subject.
Madison is still right and you are still a classless republican party whore who refuses cold hard facts.
and you're still the boards biggest liar. I'm so proud to call you a demoncrat.
Name one lie willow.
If you had one shred of honesty you would admitt Jamess Madison said there is a gaurentee in the constitution of separation of church and state.
Are you honest enough to do it?
So you are calling james Madison a liar?
essential to the purity of both
Then he should have wrote that in there unambigiously...
The reason he probably didn't was because you had all the puritans in the northern colonies who wouldn't have ratified it if they thought he was dissin' God.
So he wrote something kind of vague about "establishment of religion", and called it a day.
What does that even mean?
Does it mean that Congress can't make any laws that apply to a religion? Nobody tell the Branch Davidians.
Or does it mean they just can't establish a state religion.
I suspect he believed that he did.
So you are calling james Madison a liar?
I'm calling your a liar. Liar.
So you are calling james Madison a liar?
I'm calling your a liar. Liar.
Name one lie Willow.
Did James Madison say that he wrote sepration of church and state into the constitution?
Clearly your understanding of the First Amendment is that of the typical uninformed individual.Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
He did write it down.
Why do you hate the man who wrote the constitution?
No law respecting the establishment of religion.
No respecting the establishment of religion.
Respect no establishment of religion.
Its cystal clear my friends.
It just dosent fit the right wing lies about the country.
There are some very dumb people throwing the word retarded around in this thread.
IN CASE YOU STILL DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE ESSENTIAL MEANING OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND PRACTICAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN RELIGION AND CIVIL GOVERNMENT, READ JAMES MADISON'S REPLY TO THE BAPTISTS:
June 3, 1811
I have recd. fellow Citizens your address, approving my Objection to the Bill contain[in]g a grant of public land, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House Missippi Terry. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion & Civil Govt as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constn: of the U.S. I could not have otherwise discharged my duty on the occasion which presented itself. Among the various religious Societies in our Country, none have been more vigilant or constant in maintain[in]g that distinction, than the Society of which you make a part, and it is an honourable proof of your sincerity & integrity, that you are as ready to do so, in a case favoring the interest of your brethren, as in other cases. It is but just, at the same time, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House, to remark that their application to the Natl. Legislature does not appear to have contemplated a grant of the Land in question, but on terms that might be equitable to the public as well as to themselves. Accept my friendly respects
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President Madison's letter as quoted above is located in The Papers of James Madison: Presidential Series, 3:323-324. To Mr. Madison, I say, thank you; and in appreciation of the historical Baptist position, I say, Amen!
James Madison's Veto Messages by Gene Garman
you are calling James Madison a liar then too willow
Clearly your understanding of the First Amendment is that of the typical uninformed individual.
You have, for your own purposes, taken the words written in the First Amendment out of context. You conveniently left out freedom OF religion and like all radical lefties taken it to the step of Freedom FROM religion...
Now I suppose you're going to screech on about 'separation of church and state'....Guess what? That does not exist.
I find it amusing how people like you will go batshit crazy over the mere sight of a Christmas ornament on public property or a Christmas display in a store. Yet you will defend to the ends of the Earth a policy which uses political correctness to expose public school students to Islamic studies.
This is why you radical lefties are marginalized in this country. You don't matter.
IN CASE YOU STILL DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE ESSENTIAL MEANING OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND PRACTICAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN RELIGION AND CIVIL GOVERNMENT, READ JAMES MADISON'S REPLY TO THE BAPTISTS:
June 3, 1811
I have recd. fellow Citizens your address, approving my Objection to the Bill contain[in]g a grant of public land, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House Missippi Terry. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion & Civil Govt as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constn: of the U.S. I could not have otherwise discharged my duty on the occasion which presented itself. Among the various religious Societies in our Country, none have been more vigilant or constant in maintain[in]g that distinction, than the Society of which you make a part, and it is an honourable proof of your sincerity & integrity, that you are as ready to do so, in a case favoring the interest of your brethren, as in other cases. It is but just, at the same time, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House, to remark that their application to the Natl. Legislature does not appear to have contemplated a grant of the Land in question, but on terms that might be equitable to the public as well as to themselves. Accept my friendly respects
------------------------------
President Madison's letter as quoted above is located in The Papers of James Madison: Presidential Series, 3:323-324. To Mr. Madison, I say, thank you; and in appreciation of the historical Baptist position, I say, Amen!
James Madison's Veto Messages by Gene Garman
you are calling James Madison a liar then too willow
IN CASE YOU STILL DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE ESSENTIAL MEANING OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND PRACTICAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN RELIGION AND CIVIL GOVERNMENT, READ JAMES MADISON'S REPLY TO THE BAPTISTS:
June 3, 1811
I have recd. fellow Citizens your address, approving my Objection to the Bill contain[in]g a grant of public land, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House Missippi Terry. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion & Civil Govt as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constn: of the U.S. I could not have otherwise discharged my duty on the occasion which presented itself. Among the various religious Societies in our Country, none have been more vigilant or constant in maintain[in]g that distinction, than the Society of which you make a part, and it is an honourable proof of your sincerity & integrity, that you are as ready to do so, in a case favoring the interest of your brethren, as in other cases. It is but just, at the same time, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House, to remark that their application to the Natl. Legislature does not appear to have contemplated a grant of the Land in question, but on terms that might be equitable to the public as well as to themselves. Accept my friendly respects
------------------------------
President Madison's letter as quoted above is located in The Papers of James Madison: Presidential Series, 3:323-324. To Mr. Madison, I say, thank you; and in appreciation of the historical Baptist position, I say, Amen!
James Madison's Veto Messages by Gene Garman
you are calling James Madison a liar then too willow
link to where I called James Madison a liar asswarp! I know I know.. it will freeeze over in hell before you post that link.. won't it?
TM continues to argue with herself.
