"The Obamacare implosion is worse than you think"

[orBeMezaTtnoD]

Inspired by Senator Max Baucus

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Inspired by Senator Max Baucus

If the egg wasn't rotten, I say make a omelette stuffed with cheeses, ham, mushrooms, sliced green pepper, and chunks of Tomatoes

 

[percysunshine]

'The Surge'

When you've lost The New Yorker,,,

.

 

[Amelia]

 

[GWV5903]

It's stories like this that will ruin Obama"doesn't"care...

Sticker shock often follows insurance cancellation - Houston Chronicle

He has made the single largest mistake in US history...

Oblammer will supplant Carter as the worst POTUS of the last 100 years, what a f'ing disaster...

 

[Amelia]

People are still going to end up being bankrupted by medical bills -- either because they literally can't afford to buy the new insurance or because they decide they'd rather take a chance that their yearly medical bills won't cost as much to pay out of pocket as the new insurance plans' premiums + deductibles would cost. So they are going to be SOL when something big happens to them.

Obama hasn't stopped the occurrence of people being bankrupted by medical bills. He has just shifted it to a new segment of the population, which will include people who were playing by the rules and doing all the right things to take responsibility for their family until Obama came along and pulled the rug out from underneath them.

People who defend this are despicable.

 

[Amelia]

LOL.

MSNBC is criticizing the right for changing what they say about Obama in answer to his changing story about why he lied.

The right attacks Obamacare as "paternalism" | MSNBC

That article, by the way, misses the worst paternalism of all which is, "We lied to you for your own good, because we knew what we wanted wouldn't have passed if we didn't lie," along with Obama's excuse for his endless "you'll like the law once understand it" tour. From the beginning he blamed the law's unpopularity on our inability to understand how good it was. Such a condescending bullshit excuse to subvert democratic principles and push through a law which was so bad that he had to lie about it and Congress had to use parliamentary tricks to backdoor it.

But according to MSNBC the right is in the wrong for changing what they say as they try to keep up with Obama's slippery sliminess.

 

[Sunshine]

People are still going to end up being bankrupted by medical bills -- either because they literally can't afford to buy the new insurance or because they decide they'd rather take a chance that their yearly medical bills won't cost as much to pay out of pocket as the new insurance plans' premiums + deductibles would cost. So they are going to be SOL when something big happens to them.

Obama hasn't stopped the occurrence of people being bankrupted by medical bills. He has just shifted it to a new segment of the population, which will include people who were playing by the rules and doing all the right things to take responsibility for their family until Obama came along and pulled the rug out from underneath them.

People who defend this are despicable.

6 people signed up for Obamacare on the first day!

Internal notes indicate only 6 people signed up for ObamaCare on first day | Fox News

 

[Amelia]

The site is shut down again today. Hopefully they'll get it up and running soon so that people can get back to seeing how badly Obama deceived them.

 

[Antares]

The site is shut down again today. Hopefully they'll get it up and running soon so that people can get back to seeing how badly Obama deceived them.

It will be shut down today and tomorrow..I just got an email from CMS

 

[Antares]

Just got a follow up, they think it will be online by 9 a.m. tomorrow

 

[Zoom-boing]

I just went on to the site. Still can't get any actual info on plans/prices other than the generic shit they spew. It still says this: You'll get final quotes for specific plans based on your income and household after you complete a Marketplace application.

 

[Amelia]

So not until you give them your personal information?

 

[Zoom-boing]

So not until you give them your personal information?

As far as I can tell.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So not until you give them your personal information?

Fuck the bastards

 

[percysunshine]

Where is James O'Keefe when you need him? Last I heard of Jimmy was when he registered to vote as Attorney General Eric Holder, in Holders voting precinct, without a valid ID.

Maybe he could sign up Michelle Obama for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov....just for fun.

 

[Amelia]

Top hospitals opt out of Obamacare « Watchdog.org

 

[Zoom-boing]

Just tried to get info on plans again.

 

[Amelia]

Another sort-of-interesting-but-not-sure-what-it-means story:

Insurance premiums differ across border with Minnesota | Post-Crescent Media | postcrescent.com



Some people are trying to blame the premium disparity on Minnesota setting up its own exchange and Wisconsin not, but this article says not. Part of the problem is that to get the low rates Minnesota offers plans with less doctor choice which aren't available in Wisconsin. And the disparity isn't in Minnesota's favor across the board. Some parts of Minnesota will be more expensive than some parts of Wisconsin.

 

[Spoonman]

49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41% - Forbes

49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41%