"The Obamacare implosion is worse than you think"

[Amelia]

Best of the Web Today: How Low Can They Go? - WSJ.com

 

[Amelia]

The Hidden Marriage Penalty in Obamacare

The first time I heard Nona Willis Aronowitz talk about getting divorced to save money on health insurance I thought she couldn't really be serious. We were at Monte's, an old Italian place in South Brooklyn, having dinner with a group of New York women writers in late July.

"Don't do it!" I urged her, certain, having watched my friends over the years, that no matter how casually she or her husband might treat the piece of paper that says they are married, getting unhitched would inevitably change their relationship as profoundly as getting hitched in the first place.

But with the arrival of the Affordable Care Act's insurance exchanges, the question for Nona and her husband Aaron Cassara moved from the realm of casual conversation to a real financial conundrum. ....

 

[koshergrl]

"in similarly rhapsodic Oregon over on the west coast, the malfunctioning exchange website has entirely reduced the state to sifting through paper applications. They still have yet to enroll even a single Oregonian, NPR reports:

When Cover Oregon opened Oct. 1, executive director Rocky King was excited. He’d been preparing for years. “Day one, we are accepting applications. And staff at the Oregon Health Authority and Cover Oregon are ready to process those applications,” he said on opening day.
Back then, King conceded there were still glitches with the website, but he said that by mid-to-late October they’d be worked out. Now it’s November, and it’s clear that a quick fix is not in the cards. So Cover Oregon has turned to old-fashioned paper applications. People can either download one off the website, or have somebody walk them through it. …
The paper application is 20 pages long and asks for everything from names and the number of people in your household to pension contributions and alimony payments.
That means Cover Oregon staff will comb through documents to determine if the person is eligible for a tax credit or for Medicaid. The sporadic functionality of the federal government’s HealthCare.gov website means this eligibility check is a problem."


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NPR: Oregon?s exchange might actually be doing worse than the federal site « Hot Air


Oregon's State Exchange May Be Worse Than HealthCare.gov : Shots - Health News : NPR

 

[koshergrl]

I'm going to tell my kids to become doctors:

"
This fall, millions of uninsured Americans seeking health insurance, many for the first time, overwhelmed the unprepared federal website, still under repair, built to give it to them. Next year, the same people, all heading to hospitals and physicians’ offices ready to make use of their new coverage, could crash something more tangible: the U.S. health care system itself.
America is running out of doctors, and next year’s influx of patients will strain the current supply. The nation will be 91,500 physicians short by 2020, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges. By 2025, that number is expected to swell to more than 130,600.
Next year, the demand will be highest for primary-care physicians, such as general internists, family doctors, and pediatricians—the kinds of doctors many people go to first for nonemergency medical attention before seeing specialists. Last winter, an Annals of Family Medicine study predicted the country will need 52,000 more primary-care physicians by 2025."

America Is Running Out of Doctors - NationalJournal.com

 

[Jroc]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpa-5JdCnmo]36 Times Obama Said You Could Keep Your Health Care Plan - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Jroc]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz4iFDdRP8U]Obamacare Website Now Giving Out Personal Information - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Amelia]

criminal

 

[Zoom-boing]

Does anyone know if the Rs are doing anything atm to try and delay this? I know of the "Keep Your Health Plan" bill put out by Upton, but are the Rs doing anything else?

 

[Amelia]

CBS: 'White House Had Years of Warnings' About ObamaCare Debacle

 

[Jroc]

Does anyone know if the Rs are doing anything atm to try and delay this? I know of the "Keep Your Health Plan" bill put out by Upton, but are the Rs doing anything else?

Lots of Dems are joining in on that. Obama my delay it a couple months who knows

 

[Amelia]

25,000 Alabama children to be added to Medicaid rolls - WSFA.com: News Weather and Sports for Montgomery, AL.


Alabama children are finding the "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" pledge broken. They're being forced out of an excellent insurance program and into Medicaid. I learned about this from my friend whose granddaughter has lost her doctor because her doctors and the hospital where the girl got her surgery don't take Medicaid. It's not clear yet whether there will be any lapse in her rehab. The parents are still scrambling for information.

 

[Amelia]

Has the anticipated level of fraud and related costs been mentioned yet?

FBI Gears Up As Nearly 17M Poised to Get ObamaCare Tax Credits | Fox Business

 

[Amelia]

Wait! What? Did we finally get an apology from Obama -- and a mention of helping the people whose finances he has crashed with more expensive policies?

I'm amazed. As long as he has held out, I wasn't sure he'd ever bite the bullet and apologize.

 

[Spoonman]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR3_mM4bpCY]Obamacare by Morning CMA Awards Carrie Underwood & Brad Paisley - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Amelia]

Rule lets unions avoid ObamaCare tax | New York Post

The Obama administration sneaked in a rule that would let some labor unions off the hook for an ObamaCare tax.

After publicly rejecting the unions’ request for an exemption, the Department of Health and Human Services last week quietly gave the unions a pass on what would have been a massive tax hit.

....

 

[MeBelle]

Wait! What? Did we finally get an apology from Obama -- and a mention of helping the people whose finances he has crashed with more expensive policies?

I'm amazed. As long as he has held out, I wasn't sure he'd ever bite the bullet and apologize.

Nope, was changed to 'regret'.

Obama on health plan cancellations: 'I am sorry' | MSNBC

“I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based, based on assurances they got from me. We’ve got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this.”

This was the right thing to do.

Can't find that quote in the story or the interview.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/07/obama-says-hes-sorry-americans-losing-insurance/

WASHINGTON — President Obama is apologizing that some Americans are losing their insurance — and referenced assurances that he gave the American people during his reelection campaign that they could keep their health plans.
“I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me,” Obama said.
“We’ve got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this,” Obama told NBC News at the White House on Thursday.
It’s the most personal expression of regret yet from the administration, which for weeks has been acknowledging the failures of the botched Obamacare web site that was created so that Americans can buy insurance.
On Tuesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney apologized that the web site wasn’t providing needed information to people getting notices that they were losing private insurance. “That’s on us and I accept that,” Carney said Tuesday.

OK-here it is again!
I screen shot it this time!

 

[Amelia]

Transcript:

VIDEO: Watch Obama (kinda, sorta) apologize to Americans losing their health plans


The lies continue:

"And in good faith, tried to write the law in such a way that people could keep their care."




"And I am sorry that they-- you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."

What does that mean?

 

[GWV5903]

Transcript:

VIDEO: Watch Obama (kinda, sorta) apologize to Americans losing their health plans


The lies continue:

"And in good faith, tried to write the law in such a way that people could keep their care."




"And I am sorry that they-- you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."

What does that mean?

It means he is a f'ing lying sack of shit...

Exclusive: Obama personally apologizes for Americans losing health coverage - U.S. News

Isn't it special that NBC has changed their motto to "The Cover Obama's Ass Network" what a wonderful group of reporters and producers...

Live from Nancy "I don't know shit" Pelosi let's pass it so we know what's in it?

And you want to tell me some of our brightest minds live in her district? ROFLMAO...

Put her out to pasture CA District 12 voters, you appear to be as dumb as she is...

But he said he's Sorry........

His sheep will lap this up like sweet cream...

The dumbest f'ing humans walking the planet...

 

[Amelia]

NBC loves getting interviews with Obama. Naturally they'll put the best interpretation they can on his slimy utterances on those occasions.

 

[Jroc]

Transcript:

VIDEO: Watch Obama (kinda, sorta) apologize to Americans losing their health plans


The lies continue:

"And in good faith, tried to write the law in such a way that people could keep their care."




"And I am sorry that they-- you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."

What does that mean?

Obama's pathetic apology isn't going to do much as people continue loose their insurance