The object is a weakened, dumbed-down and intellectually dishonest public

[IDIOCRACY]

All you have to do is look at our society and see what is happening on a large scale around the country.

1 public schools are lowering grading standards or altering the way grading is done to make it more fair and equitable which means not holding bad students to high standards and encouraging them being able to perform.

Faced with soaring Ds and Fs, schools are ditching the old way of grading

Pandemic-forced school closures revealed how grade-point systems hurt disadvantaged children, prompting educators to look for ways to bring equity to grading.

www.latimes.com

Some schools even got rid of analog clocks because students couldn't read them. Imagine you're supposed to teach kids, but when they don't know something you don't teach it to them.

Some Schools Removing Analog Clocks Because Kids Can't Read Them

Some schools removed analog clocks from exam rooms, relying on digital displays to help students race against time.

www.cbsnews.com

2 weed is on the rise. Weed for a lot of people as a occasional background substance isn't too bad. But we see it becoming more and more legalized with more and more kids smoking it and getting high. Weed will rob you of your ambition and a lot of young people all they want to do is just enough to get high.

3 smartphones make us dumber. Before you had to learn and commit things to memory, now everyone just pulls out their phone, googles something and forget its an hour later. We're gradually losing our ability to retain information.

4 everything is getting closer together and renting becoming a bigger thing. When you work some measely job and rent an apartment your life is limited and when your life is limited so is your mind and ambition. Millions and millions of people have resigned themselves to working a garbage job and perpetually renting. They sit and whine about wanting more and how they deserve it but they don't do anything about it so they live a life of unhappy mediocrity.

5 social media destroys brains and even when you go out to eat you see parents and kids sitting at the table looking at their phones. Why even bother going out? Social media and the constant scrolling and mindless junk on it rots brains because it takes no thought to do it and people do it all day. Kids spend more time on Instagram than they do actually outside playing and spending time with other kids. It all passively slips through their brains that are in neutral. Too many people apply value to their lives by likes, views, and hearts.

6 were in a age of irrational emotion and kneejerk responses. Fewer and fewer people stop, think, rationalize, research and learn before they speak. They immediately go to a kneejerk response and quick to be emotional. Emotions are the first stop of the ignorant.

When was the last time America did anything great? Overcame a major challenge? Did something worthwhile? Anything meaningful? Our nation is gradually becoming a nation of the soft, weak, lazy and ambitionless. Now we argue about how fat is beautiful and healthy, men can become women, protest in the name of other countries and so on.

Ding ding ding, not a word untrue.

Some contributors to our severe dumbing down is the fact we no longer have to spell or perform math using our noggins, or even read a map. Fuck, we don't even need to commit phone numbers and appointments to memory. Open book tests while they shove woke down our throats. That and how many people do you know can solve basic problems, beyond rebooting gadgets? I see a lot of liberals in California, they hire others to solve problems and maintain their shit, and don't get me started on their central and needy selves. On one hand they preach this and that, on the other their actions demonstrate the opposite.

 

[whitehall]

Combine the fact that America's schools have been dumbed down to the point where graduates learned to put a condom on a banana and not much more and the fact that the mainstream media is willing to portray a lie about the health of a president and you have a recipe for Orwell's 1984.

 

[Stryder50]

I’ve never met anyone who claimed that there were not riots and violence during that time.

Who are you talking about?

Assorted Leftists back then, in person and some media, also a few members here since then.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Four decades of education funding increase has resulted in overpaid teachers and administrators while student test scores and learning plummet. Proof that quantity doesn't always result in quality.
Why private and home schooling is the growth part of education.

Whoa Nellie! Hold your horses! Overpaid teachers? I started teaching in 1996 and retired in 2018. I left the military making $55,000 a year in 1994. During my entire teaching career, I was close to that $55K once, and only because I had 11 years of military service that they gave me credit for. Most of the time I spent in the $40K range, including when I was an assistant principal.

Taking my pay into consideration did not correct problems with my students staying up all night playing XBOX, not doing their homework, sleeping in class, and being a general ass when it comes to behavior. I suggest you temper your expectations a little and get a grip on reality.

 

[The Duke]

The irony is so thick here, you could spread it on a bagel.

Ignorance, manipulation and mal-information are indeed destructive, but they exist across the political spectrum.

Only one side of the political spectrum controls the propaganda outlets, MacDipShit.

 

[Stryder50]

Hilarious

Yeah ...
Jihadi Barry O. unlocks frozen funds of Iran allowing it to build up Hamas and Hezbollah, along with their proxy fighters in Iraq.
Run Away Joe Biden has the U.S. bail out of Afghanistan so fast we leave billion$ worth of weapons and gear to fall into the hands of the Taliban.

You Leftwing Nuts scream about your false patriotism while backhand aid to USA enemies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Combine the fact that America's schools have been dumbed down to the point where graduates learned to put a condom on a banana and not much more and the fact that the mainstream media is willing to portray a lie about the health of a president and you have a recipe for Orwell's 1984.

Students are given the information they need to be successful; they just do not retain it.

 

[Marener]

Assorted Leftists back then, in person and some media, also a few members here since then.

Who said that in the media?

 

[DGS49]

LIke many other previous Presidential campaigns, the Republicans are hoping that people will look at their well-known policies, look at what things were like four years ago, and look at the capabilities of the ticket, and vote for Trump.

On the other side, they are hoping that people ignore the issues, the mountain of failures of the Biden/Harris Administration, the inflation, the obvious lack of intelligence of the woman at the top of the ticket, and vote for Harris anyway.

It's funny...the Trump supporters are interviewed nightly on news programs and they all see to be saying, "The voters are smart enough to see though Harris' lies and whatnot..." But that is probably not the case. The people are stupid. Democrats are depending on it.

 

[Marener]

Yeah ...
Jihadi Barry O. unlocks frozen funds of Iran allowing it to build up Hamas and Hezbollah, along with their proxy fighters in Iraq.
Run Away Joe Biden has the U.S. bail out of Afghanistan so fast we leave billion$ worth of weapons and gear to fall into the hands of the Taliban.

You Leftwing Nuts scream about your false patriotism while backhand aid to USA enemies.

Obama getting Iran to freeze and disassemble their nuclear program was worth it.

Trump thew that away for nothing.

 

[JoeB131]

And your candidates are idiot sock-puppets being manipulated by elitist few who wish a one-party rule in the USA.
Your Leftist-socialist ideas are based on ignorance and greed and will only benefit the parasites and other deadwood, like yourself.

This is why we will never give up the fight.

I guess. But it kind of looks like everyone else is moving on without you.

If the GOP wants to be taken seriously, you need serious candidates, not some Reality TV Rodeo Clown.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Whoa Nellie! Hold your horses! Overpaid teachers? I started teaching in 1996 and retired in 2018. I left the military making $55,000 a year in 1994. During my entire teaching career, I was close to that $55K once, and only because I had 11 years of military service that they gave me credit for. Most of the time I spent in the $40K range, including when I was an assistant principal.

Taking my pay into consideration did not correct problems with my students staying up all night playing XBOX, not doing their homework, sleeping in class, and being a general ass when it comes to behavior. I suggest you temper your expectations a little and get a grip on reality.

• The National Education Association estimates that the national average teacher salary for the 2022-23 school year is $68,469—a 2.6 percent increase from the previous year.

Obviously the average, so many are paid much more. They're basically equal a socialist's degree. Overpaid? I don't know, but I do know our education system sucks ass, and no amount of more money is going to change that.

 

[JoeB131]

LIke many other previous Presidential campaigns, the Republicans are hoping that people will look at their well-known policies, look at what things were like four years ago, and look at the capabilities of the ticket, and vote for Trump.

Four years ago, we had riots in the streets, double-digit unemployment, and, oh, yeah, a plague where they were taking the bodies out in refrigerator trucks. I honestly hope the voters DO remember what things were like four years ago.

On the other side, they are hoping that people ignore the issues, the mountain of failures of the Biden/Harris Administration, the inflation, the obvious lack of intelligence of the woman at the top of the ticket, and vote for Harris anyway.

Inflation is now under 3%. And Harris has a JD, what do you have?

It's funny...the Trump supporters are interviewed nightly on news programs and they all see to be saying, "The voters are smart enough to see though Harris' lies and whatnot..." But that is probably not the case. The people are stupid. Democrats are depending on it.

Actually,the only really stupid people I know are Trump supporters... dumb, racist, misogynistic twats who seem to think this Reality TV Rodeo Clown is fucking Jesus.

 

[Stryder50]

Whoa Nellie! Hold your horses! Overpaid teachers? I started teaching in 1996 and retired in 2018. I left the military making $55,000 a year in 1994. During my entire teaching career, I was close to that $55K once, and only because I had 11 years of military service that they gave me credit for. Most of the time I spent in the $40K range, including when I was an assistant principal.

Taking my pay into consideration did not correct problems with my students staying up all night playing XBOX, not doing their homework, sleeping in class, and being a general ass when it comes to behavior. I suggest you temper your expectations a little and get a grip on reality.

It varies per state in the pay ranges.

I was raising my two sons during the 90s and had to cover areas their teachers failed doing and the school system botched. When oldest went to college about 2006, after doing Iraq with the Army, he had to do bonehead English and basic algebra again because those subjects weren't taught well during his high school. Like with most high schools which is why the are mandatory in most colleges.

In my book we parents and students don't get our money's worth out of public education. That's why so many have shifted to private and home schooling.
FWIW, the teachers in my school district back then were over paid compared to the value we got out of them.

As your last paragraph illustrates, paying you more wouldn't have improved the results you got from your students.

I've a very good grip on reality. It's you who may have delusions.

 

[Stryder50]

Obama getting Iran to freeze and disassemble their nuclear program was worth it.

Trump thew that away for nothing.

But Iran didn't freeze such.
Israel is on verge of having to do there what they did to Iraq.

 

[Stryder50]

I guess. But it kind of looks like everyone else is moving on without you.

If the GOP wants to be taken seriously, you need serious candidates, not some Reality TV Rodeo Clown.

If the DemocRATs want to be taken seriously they need some serious business and wealth producing candidates.
Not career "welfare" politicians who advanced by being on their knees applying lips to others body parts.

 

[JoeB131]

Some schools even got rid of analog clocks because students couldn't read them. Imagine you're supposed to teach kids, but when they don't know something you don't teach it to them.

So what? Are you saying they can't tell time by looking at a digital clock, which is a lot more accurate.

2 weed is on the rise. Weed for a lot of people as a occasional background substance isn't too bad. But we see it becoming more and more legalized with more and more kids smoking it and getting high. Weed will rob you of your ambition and a lot of young people all they want to do is just enough to get high.

Oh, no, it's

3 smartphones make us dumber. Before you had to learn and commit things to memory, now everyone just pulls out their phone, googles something and forget its an hour later. We're gradually losing our ability to retain information.

Really? Frankly, smartphones are a boon... I don't know how we got by without them. (And I was resistant to getting one for years.)

4 everything is getting closer together and renting becoming a bigger thing. When you work some measely job and rent an apartment your life is limited and when your life is limited so is your mind and ambition. Millions and millions of people have resigned themselves to working a garbage job and perpetually renting. They sit and whine about wanting more and how they deserve it but they don't do anything about it so they live a life of unhappy mediocrity.

Um, not really. Actually, the average American living space has INCREASED over the last few decades.

https://www.thezebra.com/resources/home/median-home-size-in-us/#:~:text=Median%20home%20sizes%20have%20grown%20by%20150%25%20since%201980&text=Nearly%2040%20years%20later%2C%20the,to%20the%20U.S.%20Census%20Bureau.

5 social media destroys brains and even when you go out to eat you see parents and kids sitting at the table looking at their phones. Why even bother going out? Social media and the constant scrolling and mindless junk on it rots brains because it takes no thought to do it and people do it all day. Kids spend more time on Instagram than they do actually outside playing and spending time with other kids. It all passively slips through their brains that are in neutral. Too many people apply value to their lives by likes, views, and hearts.

And yet, here you are, every day on USMB ranting and raving...

6 were in a age of irrational emotion and kneejerk responses. Fewer and fewer people stop, think, rationalize, research and learn before they speak. They immediately go to a kneejerk response and quick to be emotional. Emotions are the first stop of the ignorant.

Uh, okay, both sides are guilty of that. Trump is the master of emotions without data... now you think this is a bad thing?

When was the last time America did anything great? Overcame a major challenge? Did something worthwhile? Anything meaningful? Our nation is gradually becoming a nation of the soft, weak, lazy and ambitionless. Now we argue about how fat is beautiful and healthy, men can become women, protest in the name of other countries and so on.

I don't think anyone is arguing fat is beautiful... and being against genocide in other countries is a virtue.

Here's the thing... America has always had an inflated opinion of itself. Take WWII. To hear us tell it, we won it single handedly. To hear everyone else tell it, we were the last major power to get involved, took very little risk and let others do most of the fighting.

 

[JoeB131]

If the DemocRATs want to be taken seriously they need some serious business and wealth producing candidates.
Not career "welfare" politicians who advanced by being on their knees applying lips to others body parts.

Why do you guys think that "wealth-producing" is a virtue? (The real wealth is created by the people who do the work, not the rich who take advantage of them.)

Our businessmen Presidents have been Hoover, Bush, and Trump. All fucking disasters who left office in disgrace.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

• The National Education Association estimates that the national average teacher salary for the 2022-23 school year is $68,469—a 2.6 percent increase from the previous year.

Obviously the average, so many are paid much more. They're basically equal a socialist's degree. Overpaid? I don't know, but I do know our education system sucks ass, and no amount of more money is going to change that.

National average, which includes teacher pay from high-cost areas such as New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. Do you happen to know the starting salary of a new teacher. When I started in Florida in 1996, my pay was $33K. I took a $22K pay cut from the military. Why don't you look up the starting teacher pay in some rural states and see how that compares. The pay only increases few hundred dollars with each step increase and less than a thousand per year in the base salary after you get you Master's. I spent $6000 to get my Master's degree for a $700 a year increase in salary. Why? If I wanted to keep my job, I had to get a Master's degree.

The increase cost of education is readily apparent when you compare how much of the funding actually reaches the school per student. When I was an assistant principal in Florida, the state averaged about $12,000 per student in funding. That is relatively small compared to now. Only about $4000 of that total was actually spent on the student, and that number included the salaries of all the teachers and administrators in the school.

The one thing I learned about school finance is that no one outside the field has a clue about how it works.

No money will improve the quality of the chicken shit students we received from society, but it does entice teachers to stick around longer when they don't have to work a second job or depend on a spouse's income to survive.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Why do you guys think that "wealth-producing" is a virtue? (The real wealth is created by the people who do the work, not the rich who take advantage of them.)

Our businessmen Presidents have been Hoover, Bush, and Trump. All fucking disasters who left office in disgrace.

By objective measures Trump was very much a success.

But we get it, you like illegals, 50% grocery hikes, wars, a political justice system, and stuff. Liberals are awesome.