The odds are in favor of Hunter Biden in imminent lawsuit against computer repairman

[Lastamender]

So the FBI wasn’t stating it was Russian disinformation then.

How else would anyone take that? You guys love to twist words take stuff out of context. Maybe it is our turn.

 

[Rigby5]

The contract says the laptop is the shop owner's if the client failed to pay and or pick up, after X amount of time. It DOES NOT SAY the personal content on the laptop, was the shop owner's to do as they please.

Does not matter.
If evidence of a crime, then the "personal content of the laptop" is property of the court until ruled otherwise.

 

[Nostra]

The copyright belongs to the author. No matter who wrote them or where they wrote them.

So you're still not showing the store owner had any right to them.

Other than the FACT Crackhead abandoned the laptop and it became the property of the shop owner.

 

[Lastamender]

The copyright belongs to the author. No matter who wrote them or where they wrote them.

So you're still not showing the store owner had any right to them.

He owned it. He can do what he wants with it. Someone stupid enough to leave one should expect no less. Also if it was Trump's laptop this would not even be coming up.

 

[Lastamender]

That's why you need chain of custody.

Tell Maricopa County that.

 

[Coyote]

How else would anyone take that? You guys love to twist words take stuff out of context. Maybe it is our turn.

I’m not the one twisting anything, it is exactly what was said.

 

[Marchimedes]

Right-wingers argue that the computer repairman acquired the laptop as abandoned property, but according to this legal analyst, only the hardware and not the data belongs to the repairman in this case. The repairman cannot use Hunter Biden's copyrighted images, emails, etc. The only permissible action the repairman could have taken with the data is to recover it:

Guest view: Hunter Biden’s laptop and data: A legal and data privacy analysis

By David L. Hecht, Esq. A newly released document suggests that on April 12, 2019 Hunter Biden signed an $85 services “quote” from the Mac Shop in Wilmington covering labor

delawarebusinessnow.com

 

[Lastamender]

I’m not the one twisting anything, it is exactly what was said.

And it was lie. Period.

 

[Rigby5]

First it was my mistake, it was Delaware abandoned property law.

And a person by civil contract, can't sign away rights granted by law.

All the contract did by defining property not picked up as "abandoned" is allow them to treat it as "abandoned" under Delaware law. Which carries several specific legal requirements.

Wrong.
People sign away rights by stricter civil contract, ALL THE TIME.
If they were not signing away rights, you would never have to sign any contract at all.

Abandoned property state laws are generic and not used by any contract you actually sign.
Such as when you take your car in for work.
The shop does not at all have to comply with any state abandoned property law.

You would ONLY be correct if the shop did not have stricter contracts then the generic state abandoned property laws.
And I have no idea if this shop did or not, but likely they do have stricter contracts than the generic state laws.

 

[Rigby5]

The copyright belongs to the author. No matter who wrote them or where they wrote them.

So you're still not showing the store owner had any right to them.

Wrong.
If he "abandoned" the computer, then anything on it was also "abandoned".
The store owner does not need any rights to the data in order to look over it, detect crimes, and turn it over to police.

 

[Rigby5]

You are the first person I have ever heard who has said lawyers can be trusted more than police

Police essentially work for the prosecutor, who is a lawyer.

 

[jotathought]

If Hunter did nothing wrong, then why is he concerned about the data on the laptop?

 

[Rigby5]

You have it all wrong. Police are law enforcement, The DA are the criminal prosecutors, and the courts are the judges of the cases brought by the DA.

The only crimes that courts can prosecute are civil contempt of court.

Wrong.
Police can't even really arrest anyone without a warrant from a judge.
Police are not in any constitution.
They do not even legally exist.
DAs are lawyers, so officers of the court.
All prosecutions have to be done through a judge.
Police and DA's do not have the ability to charge anyone with anything on their own.

 

[Rigby5]

The police can't seize evidence from someone (4th amendment) via a third parties unauthorized disclosure of them.
They can still use the evidence, but it's treated as tainted by the jury.

"Seize" means to take from the owner, and is the owner no longer has it, then the police are not "seizing" anything.
If the repairman gives it to them and says it was abandoned, then it is legal for the police to have it.
It is NOT at all "tainted".

 

[scruffy]

The only thing known that would be illegal would be smoking crack, but that Is no secret. The rest is more embarrassing than illegal.

Really? Underage hookers? Ten percent for the big guy?

 

[candycorn]

Right-wingers argue that the computer repairman acquired the laptop as abandoned property, but according to this legal analyst, only the hardware and not the data belongs to the repairman in this case. The repairman cannot use Hunter Biden's copyrighted images, emails, etc. The only permissible action the repairman could have taken with the data is to recover it:

Guest view: Hunter Biden’s laptop and data: A legal and data privacy analysis

By David L. Hecht, Esq. A newly released document suggests that on April 12, 2019 Hunter Biden signed an $85 services “quote” from the Mac Shop in Wilmington covering labor

delawarebusinessnow.com

True. When you hand someone at a restaurant your credit card, you're not giving them authority to buy a purse from Macy's. If you happen to leave your credit card at the restaurant, you're not giving them permission to go on a shopping spree.

 

[Rigby5]

The copyright belongs to the author. No matter who wrote them or where they wrote them.

So you're still not showing the store owner had any right to them.

Copyrights to NOT mean they can not be impounded by police and used as evidence.
Copyrights just means if they make any money, then you have a right to your reasonable share of the proceeds.
The repairman is not selling them or profiting from the files in any way.
He has violated no copyright laws.

 

[Rigby5]

True. When you hand someone at a restaurant your credit card, you're not giving them authority to buy a purse from Macy's. If you happen to leave your credit card at the restaurant, you're not giving them permission to go on a shopping spree.

Wrong.
This is not like a credit card, that takes up no space, can easily be returned, etc.
When someone takes something in to be repaired and never returns, then the repairman is stuck with that unpaid debt.
They have a right to be compensated for the theft of services and parts.
That includes content as well as anything the owner left, that can be attached.

Similarly if someone stiffs a car repair service, the service shop gets to sell things they find in the trunk.

 

[candycorn]

Wrong.
This is not like a credit card, that takes up no space, can easily be returned, etc.

Sure it is.

You give them permission to charge you for a meal. Not permission to do anything else.

When you give the laptop repair guy your password, you give him permission to fix your computer...you don't think he's going to make copies of your hard drive and distribute them to the disgraced former mayor of New York and President's personal lawyer....

 

[Marchimedes]

Right-wingers argue that the computer repairman acquired the laptop as abandoned property,

but according to this legal analyst, only the hardware and not the data belongs to the repairman in this case.

The repairman cannot use Hunter Biden's copyrighted images, emails, etc.

I get it. So far your thing is that the legal system can not use anything again Hunter.